More police and prisons or try to solve the real problem?

[OddBeMe]

TBC: I'm not advocating for criminals. They should go to jail. But the local politicans seem only able to increase policing AND sentencing. Making even harder for ex-cons to NOT commit more crime after.

When maybe the economy and ineqaulity should be the focus. Fix the destruction of poverty. Stimulus, jobs programs, etc. That would require taxes. Ooohhh

I read recently Oklahoma is cutting schooling and teachers pay... but asked for federal funds to buy more execution drugs.

Old case, but found it hits the thematic mark:

Fck em. More policing more jails!

Criminal justice, but treat the problem: poverty

[lightbulb27]

Yes we should try to solve the real problems and you noted a few. But before we get there, we have to rebuild the family, retain fathers and parents, teach parents and provide mentoring and support for raising kids.

We need to get schools to a higher level of power to discipline children and parents that are pains in the @!@#! and ruin classes... then neighborhoods.

The rest of it is prisons. Police arrested the last guy so many times... it's not a police issue... it's sentencing.

And bail reform needs fixed.

We may need mental instiutions again but more so, we need to bring church/God into the solution and in prisons. Hard to do, violates blah blah... but church used to run our hospitals and schools.

That might mean throwing all the left people out whom complain so we can ignore the constiution and do what must be done. I have little to no faith in the western system of mental care and their use of drugs as primary tools. Some cases required, most cases... is trauma and community and family.

It will take generations once we start doing the right things.

[BeenThereLovedIt]

Living in a religious society IS prison

[lightbulb27]

@BeenThereLovedIt then leave to one that isn't. go to china...

[BeenThereLovedIt]

Um the first amendment of the US constitution clearly states that no national religion can be established. You "don't like it then get out" assholes have no right to support the violation of the constitution and demand anyone who doesn't like it to leave, how stupid are you? Such a mentally trogdolyte answer, go back to your stupid fucking cave.

[lightbulb27]

@BeenThereLovedIt I agree and still my point, if you want to see the fulfillment of that... go to china. Separation of churhc/state is good and makes sense. Most those people left after siging and went to church. Most churches were the ones running schools and hospitals for long time. Separation does not mean elimination and ignorance of.

I'll stop here, difficult to sort out viewopints in typing...

[NaultD]

The majority of our jails are for-profit private businesses that bribe (lobbyists) our lawmakers to make laws that pay said private businesses.

General Kelly is a famous one. He started the MASS family separation under Don's first presidency. Made steps to have it in law and hired a company to fulfill said law. Kelly jumped ship from the government and was hired by said company he had signed with while in government.

[purplepoppy]

The real problem is in deprived areas crime does pay. Kids look at their parents working all day but struggling to put food on the table, they see their neighbours son get good grades but end up flipping burgers, they see their uncles body wrecked through hard work but he's struggling to make ends meet.

But they see the criminals, they're the ones in the expensive designer clothes, the gold chains and flash cars. They're the ones with the hot girlfriends and having 2 foreign holidays a year despite not having a job. Is it a wonder so many follow down that route.

Until you treat the poor fairly and guide them into how to get jobs they didn't know they could and how to invest money etc you'll never stop crime.

[Anonymous]

Right now a lot of criminal activities are ignored in certain cities so there's no consequences. Shoplifters for instance aren't arrested. Laws are worthless if they aren't enforced.

[OneViewpoint]

Careful, you're asking a bunch of Authoritarian MAGA morons who cannot connect any dots, ever, whether they want to treat the symptoms or fix the root problem. It's like asking a dog to do algebra. They can't think it through. They'll vote for more prisons forever to avoid dealing with the real problems. Simple, easy, inadequate solutions that never solve the problem are all they are capable of.

[seeyounexttuesday]

The real problem is that blacks in America have been feed a constant stream of victimhood propaganda for 60 years so now they feel they are entitled to “reparations” and never responsible for their own actions.

[OddBeMe]

Half true half bullshit

[seeyounexttuesday]

100% true

[OddBeMe]

They are entitled to an apology from our govt. Regsrdless... not saying "reparations" and replacing with say "stimulus" would benefit a community in need anyway

[seeyounexttuesday]

They’ve gotten trillions in welfare.

[exitseven]

If the prisons were more like the prisons in San Salvador and less like a college dormitory people would think twice before the reoffend. 6 to a room would save money too so they could get longer sentences.

[Danzigdawson]

@exitseven Harsher conditions, sentences and punishment: or how to dehumanize criminals and inflate their contempt for the system and society.

Way to go, genius! 👍 That has not been tried a million times before.

[exitseven]

@Danzigdawson It seems to work where coddling criminals has only resulted in more criminals.

[Danzigdawson]

@exitseven "Coddling" criminals. 😆 The only criminals who are coddled are fat fuck murderers like rittenhouse, white collar crooks such as trump and pedophile enablers like ghislaine maxwell.

Please, define what "coddling criminals" is to you.

[exitseven]

@Danzigdawson kyle Rittenhouse is not a criminal. All he did was defend his life. Trump is not a criminal either. Ghislsine Maxwell should be in black hole someplace.
I guess you got one out of three, a good showing.

[Danzigdawson]

Trump has been found guilty by a court of law of 34 felony counts, so yeah, he is in fact a criminal. He had his own little pig pen assembled for hi, just outside the courthouse to allow him to bitch at the judge and claim 30 times a day that he was the poor little victim of a political witch hunt; a pig pen that he of course also used to spread hatred and lies. That's what I call a "coddled" criminal.

Rittenhouse is a little fat fuck who knew all too well that he was asking for trouble when he ventured alone in a riotous crowd representing the side rioters were angry against. He knew it was more than likely that his presence there would stir trouble but he didn't care because he was armed with an AR-15 assault rifle. In other words, he didn't care that he might have to kill people who were hostile to him to save his own pathetic life. He didn't go there to hunt leftists, but he sure as shit was the spark that ignited the whole incident.

So, yeah. He's free because those who are currently against political violence, as of this week, threw a shitload of money so he could lawyer up because they loved the fact that he killed 2 people to avoid a "life-threatening" skateboard hit injury😱. Then, of course, he created his own little game where you can shoot leftist weirdos, laughed and profited immensly from the whole fucking thing.

[Danzigdawson]

And Ghislaine Maxwell is not in a black hole someplace because trump's coddling her to make sure that she will cooperate with his administration not to reveal anything that might be harmful to him.

[DrPepper12]

This:

[exitseven]

Poverty is not violence. Democrats create a culture of victim hood. People are poor because they singled out by the white man. There are plenty of opportunities for jobs programs if people want to get off thir butts and take some responsibility for their lives. Instead democrats give them more welfare in exchange for votes.

[Danzigdawson]

@exitseven Poor little white man and your MAGA culture of victimhood 😥

[DrPepper12]

Would you CHOOSE to be black in USA? Just yes or no.

[exitseven]

@Danzigdawson I made something of my life. Nobody handed me anything. I am sick of all these whiners living in mom's basement wanting to be You Tube celebrities. Life does not work lik e that.

[richm7023]

Most people in prison can't afford to live on their own prisons give them food and lodging

[dustybiker2]

It's more crime is the only way offered to them to make an amount of money they can live on. But true.

[Sevenpointfive]

what is the real problem?

[blackeagle007]

Oklahoma, what do you expect?