Should abortion be banned worldwide?

[Melanie31]

I think it should definitely be banned. Abortion is a crime against humanity. It is completely incompatible with religion. Abortion is an act of hostility against humanity, brought up entirely by atheists. What do you think?

[Jerre]

No, it should not be banned as there are some cases where it is necessary to save the life of the pregnant woman.

[Jerre]

@Melanie31 Thank you for the Like

[Jerre]

@Melanie31 Thank you for the MHO

[Iron_Man]

Yes Melanie It should be for sure

[Iron_Man]

Thank you for the award, Melanie 🤗

[Crimsyjo]

"Incompatible with religion"

Who says everyone has to have a religion? Who says everyone must be as you are and believe what you believe and do as you do? Grow up and learn that people can have different opinions about God or not believe at all. I am agnostic. Their is no proof of a God in the manly image it is depicted as. There may be something mystical in the world so I'm not dismissing completely. But if you study history you can see CLEAR motivations of MEN in creating a fictional God for their own purposes. As a means of control of people. And an excuse for war. A way to dehumanise "enermies" who don't believe. Anyways I won't go on. Do some research.

Now abortion is a topic that is going to be tough to agree upon regardless of religious stance. Because there is a lot of situations and contexts surrounding it that is bigger than just the argument of life and death. I'm sure I'm wasting my breath on someone closeminded tho. But a person seriously considering this question to make a reasoned and logical decision would have to consider when does life begin? Conception? Or when egg and sperm combo grows a brain/stem cell/heart? And if said life was created accidently (through rape ) or stupidly (no contraception)? What if the continued growth of the fetus endangers the mothers life? Who's life is more important to preserve? And what if the fetus is proven to have genetic issues that will deform and create a horrible existence for the "life" if allowed to be born? Isn't it kinda to end it before it even knows? And what about if we lived in a world where babies are forced to be born to parents that didn't want them? Do you care more that a life is born than its quality of life once born? Tell me: if two heroine addicts have a child and they raise it beaten and abused and starved and it dirty disgusting decisions are you happy? Cos at least it was born? And where is God now in this situation? Cos it happens. Why do some people care SO much about "life" with no morality about the wellbeing of that life? So many of us are born and want to die. If every single life born was promised a paradise existence on Earth than so be it. But there are too many people and horrible people and wars and crimes and poverty.

It's extremely small minded to focus only on the procedure of abortion and not look at the bigger picture.

And after all that.. it takes a man and woman to have sex and create a baby. But it's men who for the majority do not take creating life seriously. Women get blamed for getting pregnant. Get told they should have "shut their legs" but why not the man "keep it in his pants"? Why do men not make sure they are in a relationship with a woman before allowing sex? To have a blanket law about abortion you would have to have a blanket law about no sex outside of marriage too. And then to make that one stick... death penalty for disobeying. Oh oops.. that would wipe out the human race within ten years.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

I have to ask where I bring in religion into this conversation in any manner, shape, or form to get pages of prattle about your views on religion, etc, etc, etc

[Crimsyjo]

@DARKCLOUD1945X did I reply to you here? I replied to the asker who is clearly bringing religion into the argument by stating how abortion is "incompatible with religion".
If u don't like my answer don't read it. Simple.

[Lliam]

Definitely not.
I have a problem with women who engage in serial abortion as a means of birth control.

But I have zero problem with chemical abortion that can be performed up to 10 weeks after a woman's last period. I don't even have a problem with medical abortion within the first trimester when the fetus has not developed a nervous system that can experience pain or consciousness.

Abortions not be limited to cases of rape. Accidents can happen. A woman or teen who finds herself pregnant and is in a situation where having a baby would negatively effect the rest of her life should have the option of abortion.

I have known a few women who got pregnant in their early teens by their first boyfriends. Those girls had been young and naive. But after learning their lessons, they started taking the pill so as to never have to get another abortion. Those girls grew up to eventually get married and have children. Fortunately, they were not forced to become single teen mothers.

Deciding to abort is a heart wrenching decision for most women who become accidentally pregnant. But abortion is sometimes the best option. And it should be solely the woman's decision.

I applaud sexually active women, but they should use contraception, not abortion. For example, all my girlfriends were on the pill and we never had a pregnancy scare even though I estimate that I've came inside women well over 5000 times.

Lastly I'll say that people should not be controlled by the religious beliefs of others.

[Crimsyjo]

Your wise words here are golden! Spot on in every sentence.

[Lliam]

Thank you, Crimsyjo.

[NoOneEver]

It’s essentially legal murder.

At the very least the terminology should be changed.

a single human walking amongst us has not existed without conception therefore all logic dictates that life begins at conception. It’s foolish to say otherwise. And using soft terms like “Abortion” are what people use to justify the act of terminating the life inside the womb.

Many people also misuse terms such as “Fetus” thinking it means something akin to “lifeless” when in fact fetus means “offspring” and offspring is another term for baby/child to a parent or “progenitor”

The lack of education is primarily why so many people believe that it’s a “justifiable” act.

When common sense and logic are used it’s undeniable that it is life inside the womb. If you cut off oxygen will it die? Yes. If you stop feeding it will it die. Yes. If you continue to supply it with nutrients will it continue to live. Yes. All signs of ways that if you would treat an adult under the same conditions that they would live or die can be applied to babe in the womb. To say that the babe in the womb is not alive is to say that the adult outside the womb is not alive as they have the same base needs for retaining and maintaining that life.

Life begins at conception. Any person that attempts to point at another human and say that they exist without it is just a bad liar. Logic dictates this, and logic allows us to evaluate and determine the truth.

[Speaking_Frankly]

Murder is a definitional point based on a killing being illegal and premeditated. Abortion is a legal killing, yes, but calling it legal murder would be calling it a legal illegal killing. That's quite the oxymoron.

[mstbooblover]

Considering the alarming rate at which humanity is proliferating, and on top forcing the birth of unwanted children, seems to me particularly stupid. There are already so many unhappy kids and people, which can only lead to hate and violence in a society. If you have doubts, ask a psy.

Although for some to me mysterious reasons a big social taboo, in my opinion abortion is no one else's business than the concerned woman, her doctor, and maybe her confessor. Really no offence meant !

Sincerely religious people have still the capacity, according circumstances and particular situations, to make the best choice according their consciousness and beliefs. No one should emit any judgment too quickly.

[Genie23]

No, I don't agree. Although I would never abort but I still support those who opt for abortion like in cases like where a woman got raped or in cases where she finds out she has a complication and if she still choose to go ahead with the pregnancy and childbirth, there's a high risk that she might not survive. So, I don't think it should be banned but I also think people should at least think twice before sleeping with someone if they both aren't ready to bring a child.

[Kori1236]

It should be legal and i am beyond grateful to not live in the states, two steps forward a hundred years back.


You don’t like it cool don’t fuck unprotected, or don’t fuck at all. Worry about yourself and your own sexual health instead of trying to police someone else’s body.

[aceleon]

so an innocent kid has to suffer a life time of absent father and incompetent mother who was not responsible enough to not do her part of protection let alone insisting on guy doing it too?

i'm saying this as a muslim

if your religion tells you to brought a life to suffer it is not from God.

[Crimsyjo]

That's my stance too. A child born deserves to be born wanted and not suffer the hatred from parents forced into having them. That said yes people should avoid deliberately creating life that needs aborting. But ability to abort should exist.

[goaded]

Don't be ridiculous.

Early abortions are before the fetus could possibly be considered a person and late ones are end-of-life decisions by the obvious next of kin due to serious health problems and to reduce suffering.

All you're advocating is to increase suffering in the world.

[msc545]

You keep using this term person. You absolutely cannot define. That doesn't make a lot of sense.

[goaded]

@msc545 I cannot define it absolutely, I can define what definitely is (a baby) and what it definitely is not (a fertilized egg), the change happens somewhere in between. The Roe compromise was reasonable.

[msc545]

A fertilized egg is a human being. You simply do not want to even entertain that thought because if you accepted it, that would mean that all abortions are murders. In fact, they are.

Your statement "the change happens somewhere in between" is just sloppy logic.

[goaded]

@msc545 No, it's not "sloppy logic", it's recognition of uncertainty.

You will not die if you fall a millimeter onto concrete without a parachute, you will die if you fall a hundred meters. The exact height where someone will die is somewhere in between. There is no precise height, like 14.752m above which you will die and below which you will not.

People have characteristics that a single cell does not. A person is not simply a strand of DNA.

[msc545]

I am getting weary of "person". Please define what you mean by "person" or "people".

[goaded]

@msc545 I know you don't like it, but it's an important concept. Why don't you define it?

Does a person have a head? A brain? A heart? I'd say yes, at a minimum, to all three.

[msc545]

No, it is a concept that you use for your own agenda. You have decided what does and does not constitute a "person" to meet your own desire to allow the murder of unborn children.

We need to stop this. We have had this discussion many times before. I will never convince you that murder is wrong, and you will never convince me that it is right.

Let's give it a rest.

[goaded]

@msc545 True, you'll never convince me removal of a single cell is murder, or that you can put a thousand people into a single flask. Otherwise, agreed.

[msc545]

Fair enough then. I think we have settled this in the way that we usually do without agreement but with Goodwill between us.

[abc3643]

No. In fact, it should be legalized throughout the world.
I don't like abortion, but it is none of my business what a woman does with her life. If it is a sin, then that's between her and God. We can let God deal with it. The rest of us have no business interfering with her life and her decisions about it.

[Speaking_Frankly]

Religion is incompatible with humanity. Nothing shows greater misanthropy than religion as it believes people cannot act morally or be good to each other without it. Furthermore, abortion is never done in the name of atheism or not being religious. Centuries of murder and genocide, however, have been committed in the name of a chosen religion.

[Berethor]

I don't care if abortion get banned in more places in the world, and I am not religious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law_in_the_United_States_by_state

[NaultD]

The miracle of life is exactly that a miracle. Lot of things go wrong. Even catastrophically wrong more often then every day life. Till we have a cure for death itself we need to have knowledge and availability of abortion care as much as medicine and prescription for heart disease.

[WonderingManII]

People don't have any common sense anymore. The only abortion that should ever happen is if something at the end of the pregnancy is going seriously wrong and the doctor needs to make a quick decision. Other than that abortion for any other reason should be banned world wide. If someone can not raise the kid, then there should be more adoption places created to solve that problem. There are people who can't have kids that would love to have him or her.

[JohnPark12345]

This may not fly so well on this thread but I’m usually more worried about the woman bearing the kid than I am about the kid who hasn’t even been born yet. Why would we bring another child in this world when the person bringing them in isn’t ready nor desires a kid?

[Twalli]

Tell that to a 13-year-old rape victim, and a woman who will die without getting one. Tell the young girl that she has to carry to term her attacker's baby. Tell the woman who will die that she has to die to carry the baby to term, even if it will be dead with her.

[AviatorTom]

Abortion is a controversial subject, a very personal one. A worldwide ban on abortion is not a good idea. The decision to have a child or not is a personal one, and government should stay out of personal decisions.

[PretzelBeanie]

A crime against humanity is being able to help someone, but instead letting them suffer and even die because you think a supernatural, inhuman diety commanded you too. Grow up, kid. You've been lied to.

[Miristheiss]

Killing a devoping human life as birth control, to clean up the inconvenience a life would cause them, promiscuity should have zero consequences?

I want to sleep around, if I get pregnant, I will just kill it.

Proof of how debased so many are.

[dustybiker2]

That is pure ignorance to the medical procedure and it's many needs

[Anonymous]

Considering 64 million babies have been killed by abortion since it became legal in the US. Yeah i dont support it. Women are the most genocidal portion of the species. Its sad really.

https://nrlc.org/communications/more-than-64-million-unborn-children-have-died-since-roe-v-wade/

[Anonymous]

No, abortion should be a legal option in certain cases, specifically when the life/health of the mother or fetus is at risk, cases of incest or rape, or underage teen pregnancies. Abortion should NOT be legal as just a means of after-the-fact birth control, which is what the vast majority of abortions have historically been for.

[slatyb]

No, and many people are not religious. Your religion doesn't get to tell me what to do. And besides, there are many religions that do not proscribe abortion. A fetus is not a baby.

[msc545]

Calling it a fetus does not make it less than human, and aborting it (killing it) is murder.

[slatyb]

@msc545 When exactly? At the moment of conception? Even conception is a continuous process. It's not instantaneous. Are a separate spermatozoa and ovum at the moment of implantation a human? After implantation but before the genetic material fuses? Before the first cell division? When there are two cells? four? eight? sixteen? While we cannot determine a moment when consciousness begins, we can definitely say that before the 24th week of conception, consciousness is not possible. So please tell me what makes a fetus human, and precisely when that occurs.

[msc545]

It is a human being at the moment of conception. If you ham it after that you are a murderer. Your comments regarding how long this takes betray both your reductionism and your lack of knowledge regarding human physiology. You cannot definitely say *anything* about consciousness until you can define it and also specify where it is located, neither of which you can do.

[slatyb]

@msc545 As we know, there is no "moment of conception". You need to define that precisely.

[msc545]

Of course there is. You need to read some biology.

[msc545]

I can see why you want this defined if you are planning to murder (abort) someone. I hope you are not as it is sinful, and in many places, criminal.

[slatyb]

@msc545 you are making a claim. You tell me. Then tell me the precise moment when a human begins. Then tell me why someone who is brain dead is not considered a person.

[msc545]

Any event consumes a given amount of time, which includes the time consumed by the conception event.

I have no idea what your reference to a brain-dead person is about or why it matters. I think you once again need to explain what oyu mean by "person".

[slatyb]

@msc545 Do consider it murder to remove life-support from someone who has been declared brain-dead? Just declaring "abortion is murder" means that you have a different definition of a person than most people.

[msc545]

Good question. I think it is not murder if there is no brain activity. That assumes that "consciousness" is somehow dependent on brain function for which there is no direct evidence, since we cannot even define or locate "consciousness".

Since you are using the term, maybe you should define what a "person" is.

[slatyb]

@msc545 how much brain activity is there in a 10-week embryo?

[msc545]

I understand what you're trying to do here, but you're missing the point. The presence or absence of brain activity is not the deciding factor. The deciding factor about whether or not what you're about to do is murder is to ask yourself. The question is this presently likely to grow into a human being or is it presently a human being. In the case of the unborn child. It may not have any brain activity at that age, but that really is not relevant. What is relevant is its potential and in this case, the potential is to grow into a complete human child. Obviously the individual whose brain dead has no potential for that or much of anything else. Therefore, I think if you harm the brain dead individual further, it is not murder. If you harm The unborn child, the fact that it has the potential to grow into a complete functioning human means what you've done is actually murder by destroying that potential.

You cannot logically compare a brain dead human to and incompletely developed unborn child and say that whatever you do to either one of them is perfectly okay. In the case of the unborn child, it isn't okay. It's murder.

[msc545]

In the case of the brain dead individual, whatever you do isn't going to matter very much because that individual is already dead. You cannot murder a person who is already dead.

[msc545]

The situation that you've posed here is actually a very classic false equivalency. There is no valid equivalency between an undeveloped growing human child and a brain dead human.

[slatyb]

@msc545 you have to explain why a 32 cell blastosphere is more important than the woman carrying it. You are calling for the enslavement of pregnant women -- imprisoning them until they deliver.

[msc545]

You keep presenting false choices and dramatizing them as if they were real. A false choice, also known as a false dilemma or false dichotomy, is a logical fallacy where only two options are presented as mutually exclusive possibilities when more options or a middle ground actually exist. This fallacy oversimplifies complex issues by creating a misleading "either-or" scenario, often presenting one undesirable choice and one desirable one to force a decision.

[Firesparks]

Yes it should be on the account that God blessed us with kids not to have them aborted which is murder in his eyes... n if you don't want kids then don't fornication!

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[DrPepper12]

I think you are young and I really enjoy your questions but I think you need some seasoning and you'll discover that the world isn't black and white and absolutes are to be avoided. The world is gray.

[Agape93]

No, and thankfully nobody gives a shit what some random dude catfishing as a 17 year old girl believes.

[Paul1366]

It should be the option of the woman. If she doesn't feel that she can give the baby a good quality of life and it could lead to extreme debt and other major issues i wouldn't see the harm in it

[Danzigdawson]

Abortion is no crime and it should be legal everywhere in the world. Deal with it.

[DJB72]

Deal with promiscuity and sexual immorality and it goes back to being only necessary to save the life of the mother.

[exitseven]

No, but it must be determined at what oping a fetus becomes a person. Hint: It is not after the birth happens

[goaded]

Nobody says it is. It's not at conception, either, and a lot of people say it is.

[exitseven]

@goaded yes, it is above my pay grade but it should, be figured out.

[goaded]

It was. For nearly half a century there was a reasonable compromise in the US. Then something happened...

[exitseven]

@goaded there are some states that allow abortion after the birth. in other states that is called murder.

[goaded]

No there aren't, that's called a lie.

[exitseven]

@goaded This is from Google but it is in other places as well.
"Abortion is legal throughout pregnancy in Minnesota – there is no ban or limit on abortion in Minnesota based on how far along in pregnancy you are. Parental involvement is not required in Minnesota."
There have been 8 instances of abortions after the fact in Minnesota. This little nugget was "fact checked " by ABC news during Trump's debate with Kamala. They erroneously said it was not true. Later the fact checkers were fact checked and it was found that it happened 8 times. Naturally ABC did not air a correction.

[goaded]

"We rate this claim: False." www.aljazeera.com/.../fact-check-are-born-alive-babies-really-unprotected-in-some-us-states

"Perkins said, “In 12 states, children born alive after a failed abortion have no legal protection, and in three more states children born alive after an abortion had legal rights that governors – like Tim Walz – repealed.”

Legal experts said this is wrong. Every person who is born has protections under federal and state laws. It’s illegal in every state to kill a baby after it is born.

In Minnesota, Walz approved a state law that updated language related to infants “born alive”. This change did not remove the protections every person who is born has under Minnesota and federal laws.""

[Shiprex]

No, but it should be for either parent to choose this option. No one should be forced into parenthood.

[Anonymous]

absolutely banned. the right to life comes first before any other rights

someone else's life shouldn't be determined by someone's personal preference

not your DNA, not your choice!

[Anonymous]

No it should not. Women have rights.

There are several situations when abortion is a completely valid option.

[Anonymous]

Should cutting off your dick and turning it into a vagina (because you have some mental disorders) be banned world wide?

[Kingofkings1992]

I consider having fake accounts on here to be a crime against humanity. Who gives a shit whether or not something is compatible with religion? You don’t get to shove your own religion down other people’s throats.

[Anonymous]

I agree with your conclusion but I think the immorality of abortion does not depend upon justification by religious beliefs.

[Alex-Snow]

I disagree with you. It is women's body and her choice what to do with it.

[Staximus]

If your daughter was raped and impregnated by a piece of shit rapist, would you want her to have that baby?

[Staximus]

Religion is a bunch of man-made fantasy bullshit

[ᴍᴀʀʀɪᴇᴅɪsʟᴀᴍɪᴡᴏʀsʜɪᴘ]

People like you should be banned too. How immoral is this profile picture, you have defiled our sacred headscarf with disgusting perversion. May God damn you.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

You are placing reality against the stupidity. We all know stupidity reigns supreme

[fivebyfour]

I agree with the OP, killing a child is the worst form of murder,,,

[MuddyMole]

It would make a lot more sense to ban religion.

[DrPepper12]

WINNER 🏆🙌

[msc545]

Abortion should be banned anyplace that murder is banned.

[azgınteke]

Sen yaşlı evli bir erkekle beraber oldun ve hamile kaldın ne yapacaksın doğuracakmısın? bir de sen müslümansın

[qwerty2469]

No. It should be encouraged among disgusting liberals and brown skinned people.

[QuietRunner]

yes

but with birth control available worldwide

[Crimsyjo]

Also birth control that doesn't take away pleasure (condoms) or cause bodily harm and side effects (pills and injections) needs to be invented. Then be freely available. Also surgeries for permanent solutions once you've had kids and don't want more maybe? Prevention is better than cure after all right?

[QuietRunner]

@Crimsyjo yes it is

[Cheerfull009]

It should be , but no country has this law , even in Muslim countries

[Bklynbadboy12]

Nope ans whoever thinks it should be banned world wide. Everybody has a right to choose

[FenixG45]

And what about if a woman is raped? Or the baby is horribly sick or disfigured?

[mat678]

Yes. But it should be allowed if the person was raped or the new born would be disabled

[Anonymous]

I know plenty of Christian girls who have had abortions.

[Braylee]

I don't think they should

[beefcakebradybatson]

H**L to the NO !!!

[Sal_Monella]

Who bans it? Who enforces it?

[MasterKS]

No it should not.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s too late

[Sam1133]

I support abortion

[Evan777]

Yes.

[Jennz6]

Yes , I am pro life