Will this affect the "trust the science" crowd?

[seeyounexttuesday]

Or do facts just don't matter when they feel they're doing good.

https://correlation-canada.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2025-10-06-Correlation-Did-COVID-vaccines-saved-millions-of-lives-in-USA.pdf

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In case that's too much for you, here's Grok's summary: x.com/i/grok/share/78mZ01mQohPHWWbvI6FSo24yc

[Lliam]

A scientist's job is to NOT trust the science but to research and arrive at their own conclusions.
What happened with covid was, scientists whose conclusions did not match the desired narrative were blocked, censored, banned, slandered, threatened and even fired.
When all dissenting voices were silenced, the scam artists could promote one single narrative and claim that there was a scientific consensus.
Then, the media echo chamber promoted the idiotic phrase "Trust the science", claiming that non-scientists had no business questioning, doing research, formulating conclusions based on their research, or making decisions for themselves.

As it turned out, the covid narrative was a psy-op. The notion that the mRNA jabs were safe and effective was a complete lie. There is no proof that they were effective at all. And they are probably the most harmful "vaccines" ever created.

So much for "THE" science.

[Syntosi]

Yeah, thats bullshit. "If we ignore established science and instead believe anti-factual theories then we are correct". Wtf is that all about?

Fact 1: We know that Covid19 increased mortality because of excess mortality statistics.
Fact 2: We know that covid19 vaccines works because the statistical difference between those who took the vaccine vs those who did not.

This study is retarded.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Ironic statement of the day. Yeah we've established that people stopped getting routine medical care because of the fear mongering.

[Syntosi]

If you are implying that would correspond with the excess deaths seen during covid19 or the difference between vaccinated vs unvaccinated then dont bother. It does not. But yes, a lot of people has died because of anti-vax propaganda and fearmongering.

[seeyounexttuesday]

The fearmongering was you branch covidians.

[Syntosi]

... By encouraging people to get medical help such as vaccinations? Uh-huh.. As opposed to the right wings anti-science and pro snake oil medicine.

[seeyounexttuesday]

"encouraging" IS that the gaslighting you're going with now?

[Syntosi]

So you dont think vaccination is medical? Well thats new.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Oh you're deciding to be extra stupid today, eh?

[Syntosi]

I am not the one who is trying to argue that promoting vaccination is somehow going to discourage people from going to the hospital.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Either am I. Learn how to fucking read. And there it is again "promoting".

[Syntosi]

Yes. Promoting. Its a good word.

[seeyounexttuesday]

And wholly innacurate.

[Syntosi]

Oh really? How so?

[seeyounexttuesday]

It was mandated, and we remember you psychos thinking people should be locked in their homes if they refused to get the shots.

[Syntosi]

Oh, it was mandated now was it? Show me where it was mandated.

Bear in mind that I am quite frankly in favor of hunting anti-vaxxers down with vaccines inside blowguns for sport or just exiling them from the country mind you. I would have known if it was mandated.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Of course you would. Because you're a fucking idiot. You're the guy who claims Trump is the fascist.

It was mandated for the military.

[Syntosi]

Well duh, you are forced to do a lot of things when you enter the military, including taking a wide variety of vaccines. You are however not forced to BE in the military. Nice try though.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Oh so it was mandated, like I said. Thanks for playing

[Syntosi]

But not by the government, thank you for playing.

[seeyounexttuesday]

The military is the government dipshit.

[Syntosi]

Yes but its just a subsection of the government, dipshit.

[seeyounexttuesday]

But it is the government and the shots were mandated. So I am correct. And now we can talk about the immorality of a shot mandate. Given that people had natural immunity to covid, and some people have adverse reactions to the shots, it's immoral and unethical to mandate them.

Or to do any such restriction on a person's freedom that you psychos want to implement.

[Syntosi]

Yes. Healthcare is mandated in the military just like shaving and whatever else. You are acting like this is weird or out of the ordinary. Also you can take your claim about "natural immunity" and stick it where the sun dont shine.

[seeyounexttuesday]

BAHAHAHAA... oh so you're a science denier, now?

[Syntosi]

Rich coming from an anti-vaxxer.

[seeyounexttuesday]

you're denying the existence of a human immune system and can't tell what a woman is. You're the last person to be lecturing anyone.

[Syntosi]

Oh really now? And how does the human immune system work then pray tell?

[seeyounexttuesday]

I’m not surprised you have no clue

https://youtu.be/1KdlU1sQcyc?si=rcO32z40YgOFi7L_

[Syntosi]

Yes, yes. I dont need to see "babys first introduction to the immune system". What I am curious about is where you think this supposed "natural immunity" comes from because I find that one very funny.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Apparently you do. Because you’re a retard if you think people who had Covid needed the shots.

[Syntosi]

Wow. So we are finally at the part where you openly advocate for the Boris Johnson healthcare strategy where you promote the spread of the virus to infect everyone as fast as possible to build up "natural immunity".

I did not know I was talking to a lunatic but where we are. Shame that it did not work.

[seeyounexttuesday]

So people who got Covid should have been forced to get the shots. That’s the statement you are making, correct? I know you were trying to dodge but I’ll ask again.

[Syntosi]

I see literally no problem with giving them an extra dose, even if you want to argue that it "does nothing".

But you on the other hand WANTS to build "natural immunity" by killing people and giving them permanent damages.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Let’s try one more time to see if you can be honest. Should people who recovered from Covid be forced to get the shots. It’s a simple yes/no question

[Syntosi]

You know what, ill just copy-paste what I just wrote to give you another try at reading comprehension.

I see literally no problem with giving them an extra dose, even if you want to argue that it "does nothing".

But you on the other hand WANTS to build "natural immunity" by killing people and giving them permanent damages.

[seeyounexttuesday]

So mandated? Just so we are clear. And what’s the punishment if they refuse?

[Syntosi]

Realistically? If you dont have an exemption then private businesses should be able to deny you service and public resources such as schools will be limited. If you can't function in society then you should not be a part of it and your kids can study from home. If this upsets you then you should eat your vegetables and stop throwing a tantrum.

Personally I am not this soy though. I am in favor of revoking citizenship and tossing them out of the country. It would honestly be very funny to watch.

[seeyounexttuesday]

So someone who has immunity to a disease should have their citizenship revoked for not taking a shot they don’t need. Got it.

Fortunately you’re too much of a pussy to do anything to anyone, which is why you have to pretend to be edgy online.

[Syntosi]

If they are immune then whats the problem with taking the vaccine? Is acting like a responsible adult somehow painful for you people?

[seeyounexttuesday]

How is it responsible to take a vaccine you don’t need? Are you that stupid?

[Syntosi]

Why not? Its such a simple thing that you look retarded for arguing about it.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Then I expect you to start taking birth control tomorrow.

[Syntosi]

Why?

[seeyounexttuesday]

Because it just shows good character.

[Syntosi]

Really now? Having children put themselves into dangerous situations for no reason carrying illegal guns and having to kill people you think is good and also think that believing this makes you a good person. You people really are scum aren't you?

[seeyounexttuesday]

Still not illegal no matter how much you lie about it. And yes, killing pedophiles makes you a good person.

[Syntosi]

There you go again, showing that you are incompatible with modern society. We dont do vigilantism here. You can take that bullshit back to whatever 3rd world country still accepts that. Maybe Russia?

[seeyounexttuesday]

I know you want your brethren protected.

[Syntosi]

I am not the one who wants children to get chased into alleyways.

[seeyounexttuesday]

No, but you are off topic, you need to get on birth control today.

[Syntosi]

And that is not off topic?

[seeyounexttuesday]

It necessary that you start taking birth control. We have enough unwanted children in the world.

[Syntosi]

Says the one who wants to send his children into alleyways with strangers

[seeyounexttuesday]

If you'd rather just get an IUD, that's acceptable.

[Syntosi]

Do you know what a Darwin award is? Its a favorite among people like you.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Why won't you get on the pill? It's no big deal. Millions of women do it.

[Syntosi]

Again, off topic. Did you not want to stay focused on what actually matters?

[seeyounexttuesday]

I am focused on what matters. You need to be on birth control. What you're scared of a little pill?

[Syntosi]

What matters is that your head is empty and you need to be in a mental institution.

[seeyounexttuesday]

I'm following your opinion to the next logical conclusion. You claim people who recovered from covid should still get the shots because it's no big deal. I'm telling you to get on birth control because it's no big deal.

You don't even have enough conviction in your own opinions to put your money where your mouth is.

[Syntosi]

First of all, vaccinating yourself after infection just reinforces your immune system which is still good and makes you safer and for longer. Secondly, there is no real downside to getting vaccinated anyways so why not? This is especially important if you misdiagnosed your covid19 infection and you never got the natural immunity. Thirdly, your birth control argument are retarded and has no redeeming logic like mine has because you are too retarded to construct such an argument.

So yeah. Go make use of your blabbering mouth and suck a dick or something.

[seeyounexttuesday]

There's no downside to you taking birth control. It keeps you from getting pregnant.

[Syntosi]

There you go, yapping again. You need to keep that mouth occupied my man.

[Syntosi]

Thanks for the Most helpful opinion~

[NYCQuestions1976]

As someone who is overall "pro-vaccination", it's extremely disturbing that so many "trust the science" people want to compare and lump together the Covid vaccination with other actual vaccinations that are medically ethical and effective. Vaccines in general are good medical science. The Covid vaccination is bad medical science.

[slatyb]

All I know is that there were one million excess deaths in the US during the Covid outbreak, and that the unvaccinated died at far higher rates than the vaccinated.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Right, if you tested positive for covid and then had a heart attack it was coded as a covid death.

[slatyb]

There were one million EXCESS deaths. The annual number of deaths was quite predictable before the Covid outbreak. Over those years, there were over a million more deaths than expected. So if there are an average of, say, 3 million deaths per year, then over two years we would expect 6 million deaths. But during the first two years of the Covid outbreak there were 7 million. Why? Nothing changed except the Covid outbreak. You are right, it's impossible to say for certain that any individual was killed by Covid, but we can say that there were one million more deaths than expected during the outbreak.

[seeyounexttuesday]

The problem is the lying. You’re deliberately ignoring that point.

[Twodogs0525]

The problem with that "million EXCESS deaths", is the people dying at home unrelated to COVID, because they were led to believe by people like Gov. Cuomo, NOT to crowd EDs. People died of heart attacks, appendicitis, bled to death, died of sepsis, respiratory distress, at HOME... It was so bad, that Cuomo held a special news conference telling people they can still go to an ED for emergencies or call 911! It was happening throughout the country. Then, without even testing the dead that were sent straight to the morgue from their homes, they were considered COVID related deaths. Don't even get me started on the elderly being unnecessarily infected!

[slatyb]

@Twodogs0525 The Emergency rooms were full of people with Covid.

[Twodogs0525]

You didn't read what I said. We were led to believe and it is documented, that you should ONLY go to an emergency room, IF you have COVID like symptoms. Those that don't have symptoms, shouldn't go, because you'll get infected with COVID and die. That's why people died at home with unrelated medical emergencies.

[Twodogs0525]

And I will add, those that died at home were considered COVID deaths, without being tested.

[slatyb]

@Twodogs0525 And you're ignoring the data, and covering it up with meaningless word salad. Over two years, one million more people died than the number expected without the Covid outbreak. What do you think caused those excess deaths? What do you think filled emergency rooms? What do you think forced us to find storage for a number of bodies we were unprepared to handle?

[Twodogs0525]

I just gave you where a huge portion of that million EXCESS of deaths came from! Are you denying people died at home of heart attacks, strokes, appendicitis, sepsis... because they were afraid to go or felt they were told not to go to the ED if they didn't have COVID? It's documented! In NYC alone, thousands of people died in their homes, were sent to morgues and listed as COVID deaths without being tested. It was happening throughout the country.

[exitseven]

I am more a member of the "follow the money" crowd.

[Syntosi]

All the rich and powerful took covid19 vaccines, including Trump. Just saying.

[exitseven]

@Syntosi I was forced to take it and I wish I didnlt

[Syntosi]

Oh really? Did your shoulder hurt for a few days? Woe is you.

[exitseven]

@Syntosi I suddenly developed a heart issue. it is not fatal but it makes me wonder why is showed up a few weeks after I got the shot.

[Syntosi]

You are wondering huh? Well that makes one of us I suppose.

[exitseven]

@Syntosi I heard some guy on the news that said that he had a heart problem after he got the second dose. Then he described the problem and it was the same thing tht i have,

[Syntosi]

Oh noes, two people in one of the biggest nations on the planet has the same medical problem at roughly the same time~ Whatever shall we do~ This is surely a national tragedy and must become both a national holiday in remembrance as well as investigated thoroughly by every branch of the government. Sadly you won't get your face on a coin because that would require you to die first.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

those losers literally wore radioactive suits while at the supermarket in 2020 so I highly doubt they are capable of trusting actual research

[DrPepper12]

Too busy irradiating their sac like tucker does...

[loveladies1]

No as not one of them can even reference any actual science anyway.

[beefcakebradybatson]

They hate science because they're dumb.

[seeyounexttuesday]

I agree. When they said you should follow arrows on the floor of a grocery store to keep you from getting the deadliest disease in human history it showed complete stupidity.