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Trending & News Attacking trans women has already hurt all women, especially women who aren't trans who just don't fit gendered norms (like having short hair or not wearing makeup). You don't even have to accept that trans women are women (they are) to acknowledge that obviously when you start policing who is and isn't a woman, all women are now being policed and attacked when they fail some standard of "real woman."
And supporting all women's rights helps support and protect every kind of woman from attack. Supporting trans women helps other women who also benefit from the same medical procedures, and who may also be seen as "masculine" especially to strangers. It helps protect women who excell at sports from being attacked and accused of "cheating" just for being good—whether they are trans or intersex or neither.
All women benefit when trans women are included and supported. All women are put at risk when trans women are excluded and demonized.
Well dont trans people want to be the opposite gender they are born into and it causes them great pain that they can never be? What if you were born into the gender you feel you are without surgeries or hormones or anything else and be able to have children? Japanese scientists have just announced that they can eliminate downsyndrome genetically and no more babies will be born with down syndrome soon, wouldn't most parents choose that? Would most parents choose not to have a trans child if there was the option. There is just no stopping progress.
Disagree. Feminists are supposed to be about women's rights. Trans-women are not women.
Feminists and men posing as women should be natural enemies.
I mean, how could feminists support the idea of men competing against women in sports competitions by pretending to be women? Those men are robbing women of the opportunities they started benefiting from 50 years ago.
How could feminists support the idea of men invading women's showers and locker rooms?
Feminists are about dismantling gender roles. Distinguishing between women and trans women means feminism is a self-contradictory and self-defeating ideology
I meant to vote D but I voted C by mistake.
If there is one thing that is clear about modern feminism, it's that they care ONLY about women and women's interests. Nothing and no one else! Ever.
And guess what... trans "women" are men, not women, and therefore feminists don't give a flying fuck about them or what they want. Sorry to burst your rainbow bubble.
It's not my bubble I'm not a feminist. I'm just trying to gauge consistency
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I’m not a feminist, but I feel like trans women have nothing to do with feminism.
If anything, they go against feminism because it involves men taking away from the womanhood that has always existed and trying to force their way into our gender without even going through the biological issues that women have (menstruation, pregnancy, childbirth, etc) or even the social issues (such as worrying about being sexually assaulted or feeling in danger at night.)
But isn't feminism about breaking gender roles and stereotypes? If men want to eschew the social expectations of maleness is that not feminist?
By sewing tits and a vagina on a guy does not make him a female. Sewing a dick on a girl does not make her a guy. Until you can change every bit of DNA from man to woman and vice versa, you are still one of two genders: male or female, and there are no other genders
I don't agree or disagree. I'm done with this bullshit. Do whatever you want. Leave me out of it. I'm not calling a dude miss because he decided to wear a dress and heels.
Are you a feminist?
trans women are men not women, they cannot be included in feminism that just don't work like that.
Shouldn't feminists (which I'm not one) support the dismantling of gender roles?
Feminism is for empowering women, not for empowering delusional men who call themselves a woman. Womanhood is sacred, part of nature and not to be desecrated. Long live the TERFs.
Feminism is about dismantling gender roles which trans women play a part in. TERFs are just mad because feminism reached its logical conclusion and they don't want to take the blame
You're correct but according to feminist logic he's helping dismantle gender roles
There is no such thing as trans. It’s not possible for humans to change sexes or to transition from one sex to the other.
But shouldn't a liberal and progressive individual respect the right of another individual to eschew gender roles?
I guess but trans women should still stay away from women’s sports. Males have a physical advantage over females and trans women are males and trans women will never be female
Doesn't that statement alone refute feminism?
Not in my perception
OP is presuming that there is such a thing as real or fake feminism yet woke postmodernist feminists openly support rape culture as long as its islam without seeing any contradiction in it.
it's not feminism if it doesn't include vaccines and climate change
Yeah it seems like the left wingers really can't separate their causes
Trans women are men, not women.
But feminists support overthrowing gender roles
Errr... think you need a new brain, kiddo.
I'm not a feminist quite the opposite. I just want them to think through their view.
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