Did you know that thanks to Trump's racism, you will go without fruits and vegetables?

[Anonymous]

Or at least pay a fortune for them. Enjoy it MAGA morons:

In July, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said mass deportations would lead to a farm labor force that is "100% American." But a new assessment from the Labor Department acknowledged that few Americans are interested in crop work. “The near total cessation of the inflow of illegal aliens,” the agency warned, is "threatening the stability of domestic food production and prices for U. S. consumers.” It continued: "Unless the Department acts immediately to provide a source of stable and lawful labor, this threat will grow."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-administration-says-immigration-enforcement-threatens-higher-food-prices/ar-AA1OgSJt

[Anonymous]

Funny how we could easily afford fruits and vegetables in the 1950s and 60s and 70s and into the 80s before we started becoming overrun with illegal immigrants.

Funny how Clinton and Obama and Hillary and Pelosi and Schumer and Biden (when he was competent) all gave impassioned speeches about how the U. S. would not tolerate illegal immigrants.

I don't mind immigrants working on our farms if that's what they want. I mind ILLEGAL immigrants invading our country. I especially mind illegal immigrants who are violent criminals. We have a process set by Congress and upheld by the Supreme Court for how migrants from other countries are to enter the United States.

[Agape93]

I won't. I'm largely unaffected by his followers fuck ups.

[Anonymous]

I already grow my own food

maybe you should learn too instead of letting Trump live rent free in your head

[IamRight]

I don’t have any trouble getting fruits and veggies.

[Asker]

Most of us don't as yet. But you will, unless you like paying a lot more for them than you presently do.

[Gwendoline]

We grow pur own. Nicer that way and healthier.

[loveslongnails]

The USA will start paying a lot more for food this winter. We warned you idiots, now you'll find out.

[exitseven]

Blah, Blah, Blah/ I eat plenty of fruits and vegetables. The prices are about the same.

[Asker]

Give it time - it wil get worse,

[exitseven]

i doubt it. The money saved by getting rid of each illegal alien is $35,000- $50,000 a year. Every year.

[Asker]

No, you were wrong about that. You also cannot document that which means that you are once again lying unless you have some data you have not bothered posting here. They don't cost that much. What they do actually is save us money by working a lot cheaper than anybody else. Does. This benefits the large agricultural corporations, particularly in California and it also benefits the consumers in that the fruits and vegetables are sold for much lower prices than the markets. I know you don't want to believe any of this cuz it isn't consistent with the brainwashing you've gotten, but try and exercise a little cognitive flexibility if you are still capable of it.

[exitseven]

I have seen this figure many times before but it ha been scrubbed from the internet. This report from the Institute of Immigrant studies sheds some light on the cost of illegal aliens.
budget.house.gov/.../...migration_to_taxpayers.pdf

[Asker]

Of course, there is racism involved - yours. You would not buy the BS Trump peddles about immigrants if you were not a racist like he is.

[Asker]

And oh yes - "scrubbed on the internet" - like all the evidence you say exists but you mysteriously don't have... right...

[exitseven]

When President Trump negotiated a price of $20,000 per illegal alien with SanSalvdor it was mentioned several time how much it costs to incarcerate somebody in the US. (It is $80,000) and how much it costs just to keep them here on welfare ($35,000- $50,000) and how much money it will save.

[Asker]

Yep, no evidence again. You keep repeating things that Trump says as if they were evidence of something other than his lying.

[FunkyMonkee]

In the first place, there's no racism involved! In the second place, if there was, I don't eat fruits and vegetables, anyway so, it wouldn't bother me at all!!

[beefcakebradybatson]

MAGANs don't care as long as the brown folk are out of America.

[Anonymous]

Use prisoners on chain gangs

If they refuse then they become prison issue mystery meat

[Asker]

That is illegal as hell.

[Opinion Owner]

Didn't have these issues in the good old ways when that was the way
Going back to basics is the fix society needs

[Asker]

There was nothing good about those old days and since you weren't alive then you wouldn't obviously know that.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Wait you expect illegal brown people to pick your vegetables? You sound like the racist.

[Asker]

They already DO, which is why those things cost very little for now.

[seeyounexttuesday]

So, you um…. expect brown people to be a permanent underclass to serve you kale?

[Asker]

You know I don't expect anyone to be a permanent underclass, but they do these things by choice and by tradition and they do them very well. There is quite a bit of skill involved. The only thing that arguably makes them and underclass would be the poor pay that they get. This is remedied by labor laws that apply to anyone who is not an illegal immigrant. Going forward, we probably will want to apply these laws to everyone who picks crops regardless of immigration status. This would be in their best interests as well as ours.

[Asker]

Also, there has been quite a lot of research on automated methods of picking crops that don't actually damage the fruits and vegetables, which is what happens now. As these automated methods become more economically viable and less destructive to the vegetables and fruits they pick. There will be less and less demand for this sort of work. I think the people that do this kind of work will slowly evolve into doing other things that pay better and perhaps cause less physical injury. I would certainly hope so.

[seeyounexttuesday]

oh, so they're just not smart enough to be doctors, they're genetically disposed to picking crops.

[Asker]

There are plenty of Latino doctors. WTF is wrong with you?

[seeyounexttuesday]

Your statement literally was "but they do these things by choice and by tradition and they do them very well" indicating there's some sort of genetic advantage hispanics have to pick crops

[Asker]

Choice and tradition have nothing to do with genetics and in no way are indicative of any "genetic advantage".

[seeyounexttuesday]

Ah so their culture is just backwards.

[Asker]

Well, yes, they tend to grow their own food, instead of giant corporations growing it. How backward of them indeed.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Then they wouldn't need to come here and pick ours, would they.

[Asker]

They don't pick ours to eat it themselves necessarily - they do it for money. I am not sure why they think that coming here is such a good idea, particularly now, when people like you would like to enslave or kill all of them if you could get away with it.

[seeyounexttuesday]

You're literally the one who wants them working here for sub-standard wages under whatever conditions because they're afraid to report their bosses.

I just want them to stay in their home country.

You can maybe gaslight yourself, but not anyone else.

[Asker]

I don't want anyone to work for sub-standard wages, but that is a long tradition in California and it is better than no work at all which is what you would prefer.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Then we can hire Americans at minimum wage to pick crops.

[Asker]

Every study and outcome so far has indicated Americans will NOT do that work.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Sure they will. Cut off government benefits for able bodied people unless they pick crops.

[Asker]

It has been tried repeatedly. Americans will not do this work, and if you cut off benefits, they will find other work to do that pays as much or more and is less physically demanding. I think the combination of low pay and hard work and low social regard is very discouraging for Americans.

[Asker]

OpenAI says: "Wages vs. Conditions: Field work is often paid piece-rate, not hourly, so productivity (and earnings) depend on speed and endurance.

Seasonality: The jobs are temporary and often far from urban centers.

Physical Difficulty: Long hours, heat, and repetitive strain make the work punishing for those unaccustomed to it.

Alternative Jobs: Even low-wage service jobs (e. g., warehouse, fast food) are perceived as easier and more stable."

[Asker]

Disagreeing with you is not the same thing as racism.

[seeyounexttuesday]

you literally called Trump 'racist' in your question, dummy.

[Asker]

He is a racist. I don't think he denies that.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Because he disagrees with you. There we have it.

[Asker]

I don't deliberately make it a point to murder brown people. He does. There you have it.

[blackeagle007]

Tuesday, you know better

[seeyounexttuesday]

@blackeagle007 I know how fucking stupid the left is on this issue.

[blackeagle007]

Meanwhile farmers are losing workers thanks to Mr. orange creepy guy

[seeyounexttuesday]

@blackeagle007 you’re almost as upset as the cotton farmers were when they lost their cotton pickers.