Questions for the redpillers, antifeminists & 'incels' on here?

Question

do you genuinely hate women as a whole? or is it just subsections of women, like specifically feminists, gen z women, etc?  in your ideal world, what would be 'women's place' and what would women be like? why do you believe what you do & how did it start?

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

nope. we love our mothers, grandmothers, aunts and all the traditional women in our families. these women care about us and taught us how to avoid bad women

we also understand the limitations of women when they don't understand themselves having fallen for social media trends, pop culture and status quo indoctrination

being red-pilled is just accepting the truth of reality is different from what you've been taught your entire life. dating only plays a small part of it. the entire red-pill encompasses government corruption, corporate corruption, media and academic indoctrination, foreign conflicts etc.

being anti-feminist is just not believing in feminism anymore than an atheist not believing in a religion. after all, feminism has much more contradictions than any religion just through their practices alone

and as for incels, part of me feels bad for them for being a dealt a bad hand in life in a bad environment that hates them for existing but they do themselves no favors when they go on homicides or join ANTIFA to prove their masculinity against ICE agents

in my ideal world, it's something similar to the Amish community or let's say a Garden of Eden where men and women complement one another, raise children, raise families, raise communities and play their role in society

my beliefs started liberal mostly through the public school indoctrination only to see the inconsistencies and addressing them lead to backlash and since then I've been more conservative than my ancestors as the logic can be explained there whereas my liberal beliefs were just based on my feelings

BCRanger10 · Accepted Answer

I am fiercely anti-feminist. I am not an incel, as I am married with children. I am also not a red-piller; I don't much care for the anti-woman, anti-marriage thinking (or at least that's what I take from it).

So with that being said, that should answer your first question. NO. I do not hate women as a whole, or any women at all. What I don't like is the idea some women seem to have these days that women are inherently incorruptible, virtuous, honest, and flawless, that they are not and cannot be creepy, weird, and perverted in their own ways, and that they're all around better than men; the behavior I've seen of some women here and in other places doesn't lend itself well to such. And I especially don't care for the notion that respect for women necessarily means supporting abortion. Quite frankly, I find that idea revolting and disgusting.

What is a "woman's place"? I'm just going to come right out and say it: In the home, taking care of the kids. You're not going to convince me that managing the day-to-day of the most basic unit of society, of birthing, raising, and civilizing the next generation, and teaching them about all the things that everyone seems to lament the lack of in today's world and that woman have a special gift for - love, kindness, empathy - is somehow undignified, insignificant, or whatever else feminists would have you believe about marriage and motherhood.

HawkPerception · Answer

Incel : a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active. The term "incel" is overused incorrectly, just as people on the left toss the term "fascist" around without even knowing what it means. I'm not an incel in the slightest. There are many women I respect in my life and I've had partners in the past that I've loved and appreciated. The issue for me is that the majority (not all) of women in the west seem to be arrogant, entitled, and narcissistic. And those types are generally liberals who identify as feminists. I'll clarify that I believe the original movement for feminism was good. I believe in equal rights in all aspects. Voting, working, safety and self defense, etc. And there are many parts of the world (especially in Islamic countries) that could also benefit from feminism as the women are extremely oppressed and indoctrinated in those countries. But when it comes to women in the west, the women don't understand how much harder it is to date as a man. They're completely oblivious to the male experience. Many of them are unapproachable and expect everything from men. Those are the types of women I dislike. The ones that bring nothing to the table and expect men to do everything for them with nothing in return. They're the types that refuse to or make such a big deal about cooking because they think cooking for their man is an oppressive task. They think ALL men are all pigs that just want sex. They dress extremely promiscuously, showing tons of skin, but say they're disgusted when men check them out. I believe in teamwork in a relationship. It should be common sense. If both partners work, take turns cooking and split the chores based on what's fair and makes sense. Take each other out for dates. Not just the man taking the girl out. And if one person is making all the income, then the other handles the house and cooking. It's really that simple, or it should be that simple. It's just so much irony. That's why I identify as "red pill" or a men's rights activist and understand the passport bro movement. Men are the oppressed ones in western society. There's too much irony and too little logic in western society.

capriVib · Answer

I follow the Red Pill doctrine. From what I understand, many people seem to have come to spread hate with hearsay information from toxic masculinity, like Andrew Tate, and they distort the Red Pill.

In short, the Red Pill describes female nature, but it does so by generalizing and stating general tendencies. Of course, relationships and women are much more than this; it doesn't apply to every single one, and it's not passing a final judgment. But what it says is generally correct. Science also makes generalizations. Just because something isn't 100% true, do we have to call it completely false?

When it comes to questions, I don't hate any woman, including feminists. We cannot judge anyone for how they live or what they believe; we are not judges. Every individual is responsible for themselves.

There is no such thing as an ideal world. We can't tell anyone where they should be, but we support the modern woman.

The most important part is why you believe what you believe. Many men chase the approval of women. Women, society, everyone says that if you are in a relationship, the more effort you put into it and the more you please your partner, the more she will love you, and you will have a happy, peaceful relationship. But this is often wrong. "Her love is not a gift; it is very related to what kind of man you are." Here, if you are a masculine man, prioritize yourself, and have goals and a vision, your relationship becomes more sustainable. It's something that happens many times: when a man lets himself go and completely throws himself into her arms, the woman's love diminishes. A woman's love comes from her respect. Most of the time, they won't love you just for being you.

Many men's relationships end because they let themselves go in the relationship, and then they walk around traumatized, asking why it happened. This is where the Red Pill comes in. It summarizes that you shouldn't get angry at the woman or think you are a victim, but rather get to a better place, fix where you went wrong, and that masculinity is not about being a victim.re-state://background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft, p

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MrOracle · Answer

We dislike "modern women" aka Feminists aka status-and-lifestyle obsessed, entitled, victim Olympians and promiscuous women.

It's why I sought a very traditional woman to date. She has a career but it's far from the center of her life, and if my income doubled, she'd quit in a heartbeat.

What men want from women has never changed, but Feminism convinced women to abandon femininity and instead BECOME the man that she would want to date instead of ATTRACTING the man she would want to date. And that means that women are now in direct competition with men, which they generally weren't before. Worse, they pushed hard to change laws to heavily favor women, to normalize quotas for women (but only for the most desirable jobs, never for the hard, dirty, or dangerous ones) regardless of merit, and let's not forget that doubling the workforce meant lower wages for everyone because workers have much less leverage (basic supply and demand).

Then there is divorce and family court, both of which are heavily skewed in favor of women. Women are literally incentivized to lie, claim abuse, and strip-mine their husbands and take away the kids.

Of course men are aware that there are some traditional women out there, but we are talking about perhaps 10% of all women in their 20s (I. e., marriage age), so what are the other 90% of men supposed to do? The answer is that a huge percentage have completely stopped even trying to date, because it's not worth the hassle and expense. It's a bad value.

Imagine going to your regional amusement park ($200) and once inside, 80% of the rides were out of service, the few still running want an extra fee to ride, and the food is super expensive and terrible. Would you be in a hurry to go back? That's pretty equivalent to most men's dating experience today.

Most men would prefer to be in a committed relationship - not the top guys with unlimited options, but the 80% in the middle of the distribution curve. But today, most women have crazy body counts, want to sleep around and try to get status and lifestyle in their 20s (the years when men are most likely to marry them), and they have incredibly unrealistic expectations and would never settle for an average guy who is still building in his 20s, and they wonder why no man takes them seriously in their 30s and later.

Men don't hate women, but we hate what most of them have become.

Levin · Answer

I'm anti-feminist. And it's not because I 'hate women'. It's because I have some self-respect. And I can see that such philosophies are about berating and cutting down men to advantage themselves. I think women are beautiful creatures. The fairer sex. But if a woman loses her virtue, if a woman acts in a squalid way, then by what legitimate grounds should I view her in such her way by virtue of her having a vagina. Women aren't perfect, but too many women see them as perfect by notion of being a woman and an alleged victim group. Women aren't victims. They have a lot of advantages in society, as well as disadvantages, the same as men. But I constantly see women being seen better at work; despite the fact that they're slobby, loud mouthed, sleep around, and gossip, betraying a person's confidence. Nah sorry, I ain't having it. If you want to act like the worst kinds of man then extect to be treated as such. They're trying to have their cake and eat it.

Women can be what they want to be. But I think we need to cast a critical eye at some of these modern philosophies, and whether women as as liberated as they think they are. One wage used to command a reasonable lifestyle for a household. Now two incomes in a house barely does it. And women are still expected to do a significant chunk of the house work. Are women really as liberated as they think they are? Do these 'careers' really give them the fulfilment they thought they would?

There is a divine bond between men and women. We need each other. We do things that the other can't do as well. Women and men are bounded together in a sacred union that creates one wonderful thing. These modern materialist philosophies just pit us against each other.

Curmudgeon · Answer

For starters "InCels" are *not* "red-pilled". They are "black-pilled". They are doomy and gloomy.

"Red-pilled" (a term taken from "the Matrix" series of movies) is simply a realistic look at relationships today and the realiatrion that how more often than not they are no longer worth the cost, both monterary and in terms of time and trouble. Now that may *cause* some to become "black-pilled" and doomy and gloomy, but a better approach is to simply weigh the costs vs. benefits and decide to opt out.

As for "anti-Feminism" today, it is totally justified, as "Third wave" Femi (commu) nism is just Gender Marxism. It is "Critical Theory" where one side is always an oppressor and the other side of allegedly "oppressed" have no responsibility for themselves whatsoever. It also has embraced the transgender madness. "All that is solid must melt into air..." Straight out of Marx.

Any positive aspects of Feminism ended with the "Second Wave" of 50 odd, now going on 60 odd, years ago, and even with that there were problems. It turned out not everything was a social construct after all.

purplepoppy · Answer

These guys are effectively hating 50% of the worlds population. I think it's safe to say everyone I've met with this mindset also has a big long list of other groups he hates be it racial, religious, gender, political etc. In fact he probably hates everyone outside his own family. The problem is his sister turned down his sexual advances and now he's dedicating his life to spreading the hate.

OneViewpoint · Answer

Can't wait to hear the incoherent incel defense which basically follows some form of...

"I can't read people and choose a decent woman. Therefore I behaved like a child and made some horrible choices while chasing fuck girls. Shocker, they all treated me like shit. Therefore all women suck. And I have no blame in any of this."

Or...

"I'm completely insecure in my manhood and allow women and other men to use me like a doormat. Therefore I require a woman who is willing to be a doormat so I can feel dominant over someone for the first time in my life. Otherwise I will feel threatened 24X7."

Questions for the redpillers, antifeminists & 'incels' on here?

Dargil · Answer

I am an independent, free thinking male. In my world of objective reality, the red pill signifies objective reality The blue pill is fantasy. As far as women are concerned, I simply know what I expect, which is respect, stability and acceptance. These things are not earned, they are mandatory. Yes, it is possible to forfeit these, but that Is up to me.

I will not tolerate a disrespectful unstable and unpredictably emotional female. I will stay home. I am not ruled by my penis and I don't always go where it is pointed. I do not need women for emotional support or as a result of some sexual addiction. I expect reasonable accommodation and everything else will take care of itself.

It is up to a woman to learn my preferences and either serve them or reject them. If I am with her at all, there are things about her that interest me and is up to her to fill in the gaps. That seems fair, doesn't it?

bunnyboo24 · Answer

Am not a feminist but am not a red pill either. I care about woman and understand we have unique value where men dont have value and vice versa. Nurturing, taken cared off, spoiled and loved. I realize men and women aren't the same we have different gifts and thats good

Anonymous · Answer

I don't hate good women at all. Good women are wonderful. But I do hate women who hate me simply because I'm a man.

Ideally we as a society could get back to men and women doing what they are best at, which means men's primary role is providing and protecting, and women focus more than they currently do on nurturing their families and making their houses homes. Today's younger women have been told they should focus on their careers rather than trying to find a quality life partner during the time in their lives when they are most desirable and thus most capable of attracting a good man. Instead they focus on their careers and sleeping around, making themselves LESS valuable to a good man.

Why do I believe those things? Because I've lived in the world as an adult and seen everything I needed to in order to recognize these facts. I started recognizing them during my university years.

Ariesman81 · Answer

We actually don't hate women. We're actively attempting to help women get the things you want. What we dislike are women who don't accept the help. But if you "don't need no man", then fuck ya.

Ideally, it would be the biblical standard for families. God>man>wife>kids.

What brought me to this place was a failed relationship in which I believed i should treat her as an equal. Not realizing that treating her as an equal was killing her respect for me and ultimately the attraction. But that's what she wanted, so I gave it to her.

sage2021 · Answer

Social media ruined any chance for women to be what they were born to be, whatever they would have turned out to be.

Instead a lot of them allowed social media to program their brains into believing that they must be empowered at any cost, and to have a career. They seem to want a guy who is 6'2", has money and is behind her supporting her every move and ideals.

Personally, if I were a child I wouldn't want you to be my mother!

I would rather have a Mom who gives me the warm fuzzies, loves and supports me and acts like a real mom, especially when I am sick.

I wouldn't want a mom who is on her cellphone constantly and ignoring me.

But they're just aren't enough of those to go around anymore. Sad!

Guanfei · Answer

No one hate women as a whole.
What many hate are the modern woman, full of standards for men but none for themselves. Full of hate for men and double standards. Full of entitlement and ego.
Modern feminism isn't fighting for women, it's fighting against men. It promotes everything that makes women unlikeable, while blaming men for not accepting it.
And I don't want a submissive or a dominant woman. I want a woman who I can look in the eyes, be a partner with, who complement me. And not look at me like a slave or a wallet.

Anonymous · Answer

I'm none of the above but I will weigh in on the subject since there is a clear disconnect between the genders. I have a mom and sisters, so no I don't hate women. But I've lived long enough and experienced enough of life to see that there are good women and bad women as their are good men and bad men. I wouldn't waste the energy to hate bad women. Most of them don't even acknowledge where their failures lie. But what I do particularly find to be a problem is the bad women and the negative affect they have on unsuspecting good men. If all the bad women and all their toxic thoughts and THOT behavior would just pick up and move to the other side of the globe and leave this side of the world alone then that'd be just great.👍😆

TruthSay200 · Answer

I don't hate women but then again... I don't hate Tigers, but I understand a Tiger's nature. Tigers kill. It's not personal. It'll feel no remorse or sorrow. It's just their nature. I hate women's nature

Frankly women can be ok but once dating, marriage and sex come into the equation different story. They complain about men all day, even though men have bent over backwards to make their lives easier. Look around ladies, everything you see and touch what built and created by men. You build and create nothing. Yet you have an ego the size of Mount Everest

You complain about dating, yet all have to do is say "Yes" You don't have to approach, make a move, you don't even have to that attractive, rich or successful, yet you will have more options than even the most attractive man.

Yeah, sure men rule the world, but not where I live they don't.

Joshydavid25 · Answer

Well, a perfect world is where women are my personal toilet seat.. No but really I'm an anti-feminist, but that is a whole lot different than being anti-woman which I am not because I love women.. I just don't believe that feminism was ever an "equal rights" movement.. And I believe that because of the way it ended up.. No movement that started off with good intentions can end up being so far gone that it creates a rift instead of mending it..

genericname85 · Answer

I'm not a red piller but I'm an anti feminist simply cause feminism claims to be an equality movement which it simply isn't so they're lying. I think feminism had it's time when women wouldn't vote or own credit cards in their name. I think now we need to look at equality from a male perspective cause any more "equality" for women just means more undue privilege for women at this point. I'm for actual equality unlike feminism.

captain_voidwalker · Answer

We don't hate women. We just don't care about them. Need help lifting something heavy, but the gym and get stronger. Someone mugging you , learn to defend yourself. You ladies are frankly not our problem anymore. It's like that ole song says " if your having girl problems we feel bad for talking son, we got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one."

Anonymous · Answer

I never had sex - But I'm not an incel, I like women.

I'm not antifeminist, I support feminism, but not femi-nazism.

I'm not a redpiller either.

Considering I like dominant women, my ideal world would be Amazon empire, women would be sexually dominant.

Anonymous · Answer

Nah, I just hate women who won't date/sleep with me. I think men should be able to get whatever woman they want. It wouldn't bother me, but women are so hypocritical in this sense. They laugh at us for settling for the girl we can GET, rather then the girl we WANT, while they themselves refuse to settle for what THEY can get. Also, if we pursue the woman we WANT, we get labeled "creeps" and "harassers". Fuck those bitches! 🤬

FirePhoenixZ · Answer

My question is simpleIf your ideology values control, fear, or resentment over respect, empathy, and growth, how do you expect to experience a meaningful connection with anyone?

beefcakebradybatson · Answer

I'm anti-modern feminist, pro-original feminist, at least original feminism's stated goals.

slatyb · Answer

Not one of them, but read "Men Who Hate Women" by Dr. Susan Forward.

Anonymous · Answer

From what i see a lot of incels are just lonely men.  Red pillers & anti feminists would like equality with women.

Godihateyou · Answer

I hate woman as a whole. A woman in power (my teacher) violently raped my face and every women i meet since in 44 years has been dumber, evilier amd worse.

seeyounexttuesday · Answer

It’s really simple to love women and hate feminism. Feminism is a cancer on society. It rots your soul, your brain, and your joy.

Anonymous · Answer

None of us hate women. Watch the movie "the red pill sometime". We don't even hate feminists, we hate misandrists, man haters.

AviatorTom · Answer

I don't hate anyone.

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