Why is Trump suddenly reversing his stance on releasing the full Epstein Files after he and Speaker Johnson were moving heaven and earth to stop this?

[yulbsari]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-urges-us-house-republicans-vote-release-epstein-files-2025-11-17/

[OneViewpoint]

It's all political theater for the Orange Ape. Why the change of tactics? Because the Epstein thing blew up in his face and he was losing the support of his cult. There is never any long term plan with tRump. He's just trying to survive the weekly news cycle right now. And let's face it the people in power who are named in those documents have had 20 years to scrub, shred, burn, or lose whatever they don't want disclosed. Trump has had willing accomplices / toadies in place at the Department Of Justice and FBI for 10 months. Does anyone think these people wouldn't make incriminating evidence disappear?

[DryGermanGuy]

„You hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of inevitability.“
- Agent Smith, The Matrix

[yulbsari]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[DryGermanGuy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu7gDMt76fU

[AviatorTom]

The Epstein files are a total distraction, and ultimately a useless one. Trump was trying to keep the country focused on governing, so he tried to keep the files under wraps. He was never trying to hide anything. As many people have said, including some of Epstein's victims, Trump was never involved in anything questionable with Epstein. In fact, he chastised Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell several times, and banned Epstein from Mat a Largo because of his creepy actions.

Now that the Democrats have made such a big deal about releasing the Epstein files, which they could have done during Biden's administration but chose not to, Trump just wants to get it over with so he and Congress can get back to what's really important, governing.

[yulbsari]

Yeah... right!!! Try again!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[katiesmuff]

Are you really that hung over today!

[katiesmuff]

Tom I assume you would like your daughter to work for him?

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@katiesmuff and I assume you would allow yourself along with your daughter to work for Biden, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydYxocpZ0kM&t=3s

[msc545]

Trump has no goodwill toward others at all and is always trying to hide something. The idea that he's keeping the country focused on governing, as you said, is a complete fucking joke, given what we actually know about him. You say Trump was never involved in anything questionable, as if you know something about it. If you do know something about it, why don't they call you as a witness too? Because that's what's going to come down to eventually.

We don't actually know if Trump was involved in anything or not, but he's worked his ass off trying to keep these files from being released. Either he has found a way to modify the files so that they don't involve him in his activities, or he figures that when they are released, nobody will do anything to him as a result. He may base this on the fact that he has done all kinds of crimes and not been punished for any of them so far.

Given what I know about our Supreme Court and the way they've treated Trump so far, which is to let him get away with actual murder, child molestation may not seem such a big deal to our judicial system.

We'll see.

[888theGreat]

@katiesmuff In one Epstein Email they mention ,"would you really want TRUMP to be alone with your Teenage Daughter?"

[katiesmuff]

@888theGreat I know it's been said in several different places.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@888theGreat let me know when you find something on Trump behaving innapropriately with underage individuals life in action

till then I dont get it. if Trump is in those file then why didn't Biden release the Epstein files when he was in office?

[AviatorTom]

@Filthy_Immigrant Excellent point. Either the Democrats during Biden are incompetent, nit knowing the goldmine they had against trump in the Epstein files (remember, Biden had all of them) or they knew there was nothing bad about Trump in them.

Now, all they can do is make noise about them, hoping people listen to innuendo rather than facts.

[888theGreat]

I call Bull Shit. Trump's name is all over it

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@AviatorTom exactly but is not gonna happen cause unlike democrats we the rest of the sane population dont just fall for noices only

https://i.redd.it/904918r55g1g1.jpeg

[888theGreat]

@Filthy_Immigrant Trump is mentioned over 2000 times

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@888theGreat Satan is mentioned is the bible over 2000 times too.

[msc545]

You may have been mentioned that many times, but I wonder how long it'll take his team to redact his name completely from those files. Probably not that long. Then we will be once again left with nothing.

[msc545]

I'm sure Biden didn't release the files because probably a number of Democrats are also mentioned in those files. That's a much better explanation than saying that Trump's name didn't occur in them. That strikes me as horseshit.

[katiesmuff]

@Filthy_Immigrant Yes I would, why not?

[katiesmuff]

Now that they are going to be released lets sit back and see just how it works out for those involved.

[msc545]

Some of them are going to be released. The ones that have been deleted by Trump in his minions will not be released because they no longer exist or if they do exist. They exist in some incredibly secure, safe somewhere and will never be released at least not for the next 5,000 years. I think it's almost a foregone conclusion that these files have been tampered with by Trump to try to whitewash himself and hide his activities from public view, just as he did when he paid off that prostitute so that the public would not find out about what he had been doing prior to voting.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@katiesmuff did you see the video I posted?

I guess you dont mind being sniffed and gropped by a degenerate 83 year old with alzhiemers.

but what is really disturbing is that you just testify that you dont mind your own daughter joining the degenerocity with you

[katiesmuff]

@Filthy_Immigrant Well Mr Intelligent if you take another look I was answering the question about working for the Biden group., which is yes I'd not have one bit of fear of a pedophile in the oval office.

[AviatorTom]

@katiesmuff If my daughter, who's a legal assistant, wanted to work in the White House, I'd congratulate her. Not a problem. She's happy in her current job though so I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.

[katiesmuff]

It's totally amazing for someone I thought to be fairly intelligent totally denying 50 plus years of trumps infidelity, cheating with whores and I'm positive before years end positively know he is a pedophile along with being a demented prick.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

@katiesmuff find real evidence of Trump doing pedophile stuff and we'll believe you. till then if propaganda is all you have to bring to the table then you made sit down and enjoy the rest of the show like an actual audience and not a participant

[msc545]

@aviator Tom They also probably knew that those files implicated some Democrats, and didn't want to do that. You need to consider ALL of the possibilities, not just the ones that favor your biased hypotheses.

[Albertramirez7873]

I think it’s like how everyone says he’s trying to cut off the arm to save the body, he’s agreeing because there is too much pressure causing his party to divide (e. g., MAGA vs America First) especially with MTG and further opposing the files will just make him look like he really doesn’t want people to see what’s in those files. My theory is, is that after it passes through the house, it gots to go through the senate and I believe he has enough votes to block it there as his parties power is strong there.

[Twodogs0525]

I see the left is losing their collective minds. Realizing there probably isn't anything worth mentioning in the files about Trump's behavior, they have suddenly turned the narrative to, "Trump was just wasting time to hide incriminating emails". This is after Biden's administration had them for four years!

[Abbycado]

My guess is that his DOJ just got rid of anything that was incriminating to him. He has no morals, so why would he start having them now?

[MrChinaski]

He was going to lose the House vote and wanted to spin it as a win.

[888theGreat]

BINGO! You won the prize. Watch O'Keef's video. He sent a hot chick to have dinner with DOJ insider and he admits on camera that that Bondi plans to take Trump's name out and all Republicans names out. They are going to make this all about Democrats.

[abc3643]

Probably for the same reason that Obama authorized the State of Hawaii to enable his birth certificate to be released to the public.

Basically, it shuts up most conspiracy theorists and turns it into a relative non-issue.

[Anonymous]

Guessing either he's on the list and is hoping that revealing it will grant a reprieve
Or
He isn't and knows that the democrats on the list who will have him killed have no power left against him (they murdered his first wife to get him in line)

[purplepoppy]

Because he's deleted anything that will incriminate him. Why do you think he delayed so long.

[888theGreat]

Yep, they stalled by shutting down gov't to "FIX" the Files.

[Twodogs0525]

@888theGreat The Biden administration had the files for four years. What were the scrubbing clean and hiding? Or were they so incompetent, they didn't even look at them?

[888theGreat]

@Twodogs0525 They just decided not to release them, but now we have the emails which prove it was bad and the people want files released.

[Twodogs0525]

@888theGreat WOW! I guess ignorance truly is bliss.

[888theGreat]

@Twodogs0525 I have answered that question apparently You can't read so I will explain again. They had Epstein in custody so neither could release anything while trail pending. That is fact 1. Epstein died by Trump's hand after. Now you can release everything. Democrat could not release anything. You apparently don;t understand selecting a jury that would not be influenced by release of Epstein Files. So Democrats could not release anything. Now Trump could after Epstein didn't , but he didn't, then Biden released very redacted files of Fly Logs and lists. They didn't want to mention actual names. Trump promised to release if elected and refused. Biden never promised to release the files. Since all that , we now have emails from Epstein Estate and that was never controlled by Bondi. So now we know there are files when Bondi and Trump LIED and said there were none. Impeachable right there. Emails indicate TRUMP loves pre teens and Epstein didn'
t lie because he didn't; think these emails would ever be seen. So, emails will further prove Trump was involved even if Trump and Republicans destroy everything where Trump's name is mentioned. Now Biden didn't release because his name might be included and to not reveal CIA operation of black mailing people and Israel blackmailing people. Same for Trump.

[Twodogs0525]

@888theGreat All I needed to read was "Epstein died by Trump's hand" to not take you serious.

[Twodogs0525]

I actually thought I could have a reasonable debate lol

[midnightmoon05]

Why not?
it’s all fun and game. Who else wants to play?

[SolitarySolace]

Probably because the dumbocrats already showed everything there was to show involving Trump and none of it hurt Trump so now Trump has nothing to hide. 🤷🏻‍♂️ but the democrats do and they will all be exposed

[Anonymous]

The files that incriminate him have probably conveniently disappeared.

[Anonymous]

You think there haven't been people more powerful than Trump pulling the strings the whole time? That's why they made fools of themselves when they had a whole release date then suddenly nothing existed.

[RedInnocent69]

I think he’s been buying time to redact and make up more bullshit

[888theGreat]

Becasue they plan to only expose Democrats and his enemies. DOJ insider says they are going to redact Trump's name and all Republican names , also any of Trump's buddies. It is fixed like Nixon erasing the Watergate Tapes.

[FreyaRed]

He will drain the swamp but not his own one.

[Surely]

He is getting tired of all of the tears being shed to reveal the names in the files.
Probably because they are making the ground too muddy to build his Grand Ballroom !

[Anonymous]

Because the timing is right now. Trump knows that these files will destroy innocent lives, but it would be difficult at this point for the left to pretend they didn’t beg for this. The left will still deny ever wanting to see the Epstein files, but no one will believe them at this point. And I’m still wondering why the left is adamant about giving a Biden a pass on showing the Epstein files.

[yulbsari]

Sorry... not buying it. Trump is President now. Blaming past administrations is bullshit. Why? Because Trump is President, and could have dealt with this on "day one," but... I think Trump just decided to give up the fight because public opinion is kicking his ass. My concern is that he will have them scrub the files he didn't release... and keep blaming anybody and everybody else. That's his MO...

[Opinion Owner]

I mistakenly thought you wanted our opinions. I see you just want us to validate anything you say.
OK, you’re right about everything. You’re a genius. And Biden was too busy sleeping in the whole four years.

[yulbsari]

I do want opinions. But, in a forum, you have to deal with other opinions as well. I have a right to respond to opinions to my questions. You also enjoy that same right. If you can't handle that, don't bother to answer the questions. Simple!

[Opinion Owner]

Biden didn’t release the files because he was protecting Hunter.

[yulbsari]

Ok, now I see you're actually delusional! If that's the case, why was Trump and Johnson going out of their way to block this. How many times did Trump call this a "Democratic hoax"? Are you saying that Biden didn't release fake "hoax" files to protect Hunter? What drugs are you on? Why did Trump call Boebert to the WH to the situation room with Bondi and Patel to discuss this before the House vote to release the full files? Why did Johnson wait 6 weeks to seat a duly elected new House member from AZ... who would carry the discharge petition over the threshold? You're not making sense. Come back to planet Earth!

[Opinion Owner]

Biden was protecting a lot of Democrats. Why do you think he did didn’t release it?

[yulbsari]

Oh! You forgot to blame Obama and the radical left media too! It was Trump who made this a centerpiece of his campaign, remember? Along with Patel, Bannon and other prominent MAGAs. They all PROMISED to do what the stupid libtards didn't do, remember? Trump mistakenly thought his own base would give him a pass if he kept repeating "Democrat hoax" over and over again. It didn't work.

[Opinion Owner]

So now the files will be released and you’re still bitching about it.

[yulbsari]

Great job not answering my original question!

[Opinion Owner]

He tried to warn you this is going to be a shit show. But you didn’t listen so he’s gonna dump the shit on you. What will you do when you can’t find your smoking gun? What will be the new hoax? Russian collusion? If Clinton is exposed will you demand he get prosecuted? 🤣🤣

[DrPepper12]

He's destroyed the evidence DoJ has. No it's only Epstein estate stuff.

[888theGreat]

Yep , DOJ insider says they did

[msc545]

You may be absolutely right about this, in which case he will have gotten away with it yet again.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

if you know how politics work you would know that is best to wait for the best moment to do certain things

[Snakeyes7]

My guess is that he wanted to make it so that the democrats want to release it, it would look worse on them that way. The problem is that he was really bad at stalling.

[siezuresalad]

So we're just ignoring Epstein coaching democrat congresswomen during a hearing?

[douride2]

Isn't that guy constantly changing his mind. Nothing new.

[msc545]

He has tampered with the files, or had someone else do it.

[ABC1x1x]

Because if he is for it, the News amd Democrats are against it.

[Awomaninamansbody]

He thinks he can get away with this because he is rich. Rich people often think they are above the law

[msc545]

It's entirely possible that his narcissism has progressed to the point that it has impaired reality testing to the point that he thinks he actually can get away with it even if the files say he did it. I somehow doubt it but hope springs eternal.

[Likes2drive]

Probably because there’s nothing incriminating against him on there

[Twalli]

Then why hasn't he released them yet?

[Likes2drive]

@Twalli maybe he needs time to hide the incriminating parts 😊

[888theGreat]

@Twalli They needed time to "fix" things. To take Trump, Republicans , and Trump's friends Names out.

[Sabretooth]

they were just buying time to scrub his name from the list.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

They edited him out, that’s why

[loveslongnails]

They edited them.

[In_Trance]

Because there are no files