Why can't leftists admit that pattern recognition is not racism?

[Anonymous]

There are certain cultures and group of people who are more aggressive and are more violent than others. It's just how it is. There is noting racist about this, because numbers don't lie. There are certain cultures that are not compatible with each other. This is exactly the biggest issue with the left and their obsession with open borders and culture mixing.

[Effably]

You know what? For the most part I agree. We all need to be able to look at things ans acknowledge reality. That also includes not jumping to whatever conclusion we like jusy because we like it. There are so many other relevant factors.

A good example without listing dozens of factors you missed that lives rent free in my head is the crime and education rate of black people in USA. Crime rate? Very high. Education? So bad that skin colour is the strongest indicator of academic success.

Now we could conclude things from there. It seems to be what you're hinting at. But wait.

Introducing world war 2. After WW2 many black americans stayed in Germany. This has given us a large population sample to compare with. Education? Same as other Germans. Crime? Same as other Germans. Any notion that black people were less capable or more criminal suddenly lack basis.

In fact this is one of the core, valid, arguments for the systemic racism in USA being real.

When it comes to Denmark it is generally agreed it is a failed integration, which yes, means culture.

However when we factor in for people integrating into society. A few danish friends, going to a crayfish board with other danes and so on? The crime rate? Same as other Danes.

So sure. Culture is an issue. But that being a problem has more to do with how open or closed a society is than where someone is from. The real solution is not to forbid people from country X but to hop back to school and give people a "New to the Country Buddy" to help them get friends and integrate.

But if you want the small win that a culture, how someone thinks and views society, can change how they approach it? Of course. That has solutions though.

[Asker]

I don't think that there is any systematic racism against black people, or that it would be an excuse for their lack of education. There are black people in the US who talk and act like white people, and black people who are the ghetto type. Just look at Africa for example. It's the black continent, and it's the least advanced. The black culture is just bad in general. The successful black people, are usually the ones who grow up in non-black cultures.

[Effably]

Again, culture I agree can be problematic. We can argue the systemic racism, I think it primarily boils down to poverty and poor representation. But I am certainly no expert there.

But we are arriving at similar conclusions. There are bad stereotype and cultural traits to break.

From this it naturally follows that creating a streamlined method of accessing these working solutions is good.

So by all means. Let us look at the numbers. Figure out what causes them, then fix them.

Not say, decide to not release numbers for the first time ever because the entire world knows they are a disaster.

[emeraldsaphire]

The USA is second to last! How is that possible XDDDD

So I think that most leftest want to believe that everyone is equal. No one is better or more violent than anyone else (except when it affects them *cough *cough) so when you see disparities in outcomes like this they reason that it is from society. Black people commit 50% of the US murders despite making up 15% of the population. This is because of over policing, the school to prison pipeline, systemic racism, etc.

[Asker]

This chart is about what group of people commits the most crime in Denmark. Just to make it clear.

[emeraldsaphire]

yes I know lol

[FreyaRed]

Because the truth causes cognitive dissonance in left leaning minds. They will automatically displace such statistic on some kind of racism of those who made this stats or some socio-econimic BS.

[OneViewpoint]

@patrioticwarrior,

"There are certain cultures and group of people who are more aggressive and are more violent than others. It's just how it is."

Oh you betcha Unpatriotic Chicken Boy. What "culture" invaded and slaughtered the locals in North America, Africa, South America, Asia, The Middle East, New Zealand, and Australia? Yup it was White Europeans, the absolute most savage war mongers and predatory race and culture to ever be unleashed on this planet. European Colonialism went on for 400 years and entire cultures were wiped out via genocide for gold and God. There's definitely a problem. You see it every day in the mirror. But you still want it all your way. Everyone else is the problem in your mind. You are entitled to take from everyone but no one is entitled to take from you. Good luck with that White Power Boy.

[Asker]

I'm 87.5% white, and 12.5% brown sir. By the way, you sound extremely dumb for saying that I took from anyone. I never took from anyone. If you look at the statistics, black and brown people steal and murder the most. In the times you are referring to, every race slaughtered and conquered. It wasn't exclusive to white people. Just look at all the murder in Africa, and the middle East, even to this day.

[OneViewpoint]

You didn't take from anyone? How do you think you ended up with the White Privilege you are so desperate to protect in 2025? Your race and culture took this land and these resources and slaughtered the native Americans. Then your race and your culture kidnapped Africans and sold them into slavery so White people could get rich without working. Your race and your culture installed themselves at the top of the food chain and then made sure no one else would ever be able to climb that ladder after you. You get special treatment because of the color of your skin. That's no accident and you've done nothing to end that system of White Privilege. You'll take whatever you can get and keep your mouth shut about that 12%.

And why do you think you're some sort of patriot? Or a warrior?

[Asker]

I live in Europe so my ancestors didn't took that land. Africans were the ones who sold their own people away, so you can blame them for that. It was a slave trade, not kidnapping. There is no such thing as white privilege in Europe. Just look how far away Africa is from Europe in terms of everything. Africans should be glad, because white people saved them with vaccines over the last few decades. Even in the US many black people abuse the welfare, and commit the most crimes. They always have the option to go back to Africa, or maybe even Asia if they don't like to live in white countries. By the way, native Americans were violent people. Just imagine how North America would look like if only native Americans would live there. Also, what about Hispanics in Mexico? Why don't you blame them too for stealing native American land? Oh of course, it's only cool to hate white people in libtard world. Every white person who votes for the left is stupid. They are voting for a party who despises them.

[msc545]

If the pattern recognition was actually valid, it might be different. But there are too many confounding variables to state that. Your chart above, for instance, may reflect conviction rates, but it could also easily reflect differential enforcement due to racism. If this were the United States instead of Finland or wherever, I would say that was a definite.

[msc545]

Nation of origin is a very gross division in which racial or national origin characteristics are not really considered since people actually do migrate from one nation to another frequently. It's entirely possible to be a U. S. citizen, having been born in a number of different countries, as it is for most of the other countries you've listed there. The entire hypothesis is condemned by this fact alone.

[beefcakebradybatson]

You mean like white men, who've ALWAYS stolen, slain, r*ped and killed to get what they want?

[Asker]

Every race did that through out history. This hatred toward white people is getting disgusting from you libtards.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Libtard, my cover boy handsome at age 72,160+ IQ, black Canadian/American lad a**. Every group has pillaged, r*ped, swindled and slain, but none as successfully and as often as honkkkies.

[Sal_Monella]

Because they want to be racism. The truth is racist. So is gravity.

[predegree_]

According to the source of this statistic, “In 2021, 129,000 of the total 169,737 people convicted of crimes in Denmark were of Danish origin.”

[msc545]

Just because they were born in Denmark does not mean they were of Danish origin. They may have been born in other countries who have been of a different nationality, religion, or any one of a number of factors. Again, what you've said is meaningless.

[predegree_]

@msc545 It literally says "... were of Danish origin."

[msc545]

And what does the phrase of Danish origin mean exactly?

[predegree_]

@msc545 It means they were of Danish origin. Nowhere does it mention those who were born in Denmark.

[msc545]

I don't know that the phrase "being of Danish origin" means much of anything. I mean, in theory, you could be the child of Chinese parents who were born in Denmark and deemed that you were of Danish origin. This is really different than being a native of Denmark.

[predegree_]

@msc545 Now you’re just speculating that it could be this or it could be that. It clearly states 'being of Danish origin.' Since no qualifier is given for the phrase, we take it exactly as it is, which means being of Danish origin.

[msc545]

Please explain to me what the phrase being of Danish origin actually means. Does it mean you were born in Denmark or did you have Danish parents or what exactly does it make?

[predegree_]

@msc545 It means people who have Danish parents, those who are originally Danish. In Denmark, if you don’t have Danish parents, you can’t obtain Danish citizenship.

[predegree_]

by birth*