Why are people so disgusting?

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

Just saw a video on tiktok talking about abortion. 90% were comments from both men and women saying they would force their child to carry it to term and raise it/give it up for adoption, if they ever got pregnant.
which is disgusting.
nobody should ever be forced to give birth, if people think abortions are traumatic, isn't birth and living with a reminder of ur assult even more traumatic?
pro-life people disgust me.

[Hardon-Collider]

Plan B is effective 95% of the time within 24 hours. Take it and stfu. Better get rid of the rapists than get rid of the religious nuts who oppose abortion, if i had to choose one of the two. But of course you won't get rid of the rapists because you're brainwashed by leftism. ㅤ

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

you say this until its your mistress🥱

[Hardon-Collider]

Yeah, i will rip the head off of the rapist and give her plan b.

[Hardon-Collider]

Also go to your local biggest gym. See someone obviously on steroids? They have a route to labs that produce progestogens, and possibly mifepristone and misoprostol too.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

yeah until ur the one who got her pregnant and has to hide it from everyone.

ok and?

[lightbulb27]

it's not disgusting to chop up a growing being? have you seen the photos? How old would you allow chopping up the being before you think it's disgusting?

It's a problem of degrees with no clear answer but of the heart of the people. Yours appears cold as ice.

I agree there are problems to forcing to have the child, and this is the issue women have had to deal with for a long time. A blessing can become a curse. And what happens if the child is not 100% and disabled all their lives? That is a strong burden.

Answer: we need to evolve as humans, establish strong ethics and values to avoid such circumstances.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

wdym chop up? are u seriously one of those who believe they cut of its legs and shit?💀
well forgive me for caring for a person who already has a life🤷‍♀️
women should always have full rights to their own bodies.

[lightbulb27]

does that include covid vaccines?
the problem becomes when it's something attached to your body and it's alive it gets confounded.
I fundeamentally agree with you. see my explanation. There's no way around reality it is killing something that will be alive.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

Yes, why?
doesn't matter

[lightbulb27]

because under prior govt it was required and requirement was supported by some. you are consistent, so that's good.
I agree on abortion, I agree with B Clinton... available and rarely used. If momma or noone wants the child, child has no chance. it's a child in making... so it's a child to me. people use it as a form of birth control and that... is disgusting. something is wrong with those people, if they do that, they should be "fixed" but with a reversible procedure. if someone cannot see that, they need mental evaluation for why they have no heart.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

nobody is using abortion as birth control🥱🤦‍♀️
you’re acting like women WANT abortions. women want abortions in the same way an animal wants to chew its own legs off if its stuck in a trap.

[lightbulb27]

That's false, I know one that did. Her life was not at risk... she had 4 kids already was in a marriage falling apart, fooled around. keeping the kid put her in a bad position to take her share of the family business, so the unborn was murdered... um... aborted. A case of one, but there's others and many.
If life is at risk, get a c section to save both lives.
Yes, there may be cases it's justified, soon you will be an adult and you are responsible.
make the best decisions you can.

[FreyaRed]

Often it's propaganda filtered selected comments and statements to crate in one side directed peer pressure. This technique is often used in propaganda, so you should don't take it too seriously.
Most women who are in age of having children are pro abortion, of course it changes when menopause kicks in, then suddenly all of them want younger women spawn children like Xenomorph queens (Alien franchise)

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

You’re young, you’re going to need to learn this sooner rather than later but you can’t change the minds of people whose identities are embedded in beliefs and ideals you personally disagree with. Your best option, especially when in a customizable space like online, is to refuse to give them the argumentative dialogue they want to have, and block them from any access to you.

[egan3141]

Pro-abortion people disgust me. "I got pregnant but didn't want to be pregnant. So annoying. Time to kill it". WHAT? At least have a reason beyond "because I don't want a child" for why you are going to KILL another life

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

because my life is more valuable than a fetuses life. i won't destroy myself for a kid i dont want or love just because a condom broke.

[egan3141]

1) There are pills for that...
2) And at what point is another life finally able to be valued as highly as yours?

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

1) You mean birth control or abortion pills? And by the way birth control isn't 100% safe.
2) In my life, never. In my life i will always come first.

[egan3141]

1) Are they called abortion pills? Whatever pill you take after sex to stop/prevent pregnancy
2) Does that mean the country should be allowed to kill anyone that makes your life harder?

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

1) I've heard they exist, basically plan b i think.
2) What does the country have to do with me? are you referencing to if i was to have an abortion?

[egan3141]

1) So, if you think there's a chance you got pregnant from an interaction, you have time to stop it. Waiting until months in, in my opinion, is unacceptable.
2) The country is who says if abortion is legal or not. I'm asking, should the country allow lives outside of fetus's also be up for killing if they make your life harder?

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

1) Yeah, how is that unacceptable?
2) okay, the difference is, a human is a human, and a fetus isnt🤯

[egan3141]

1) Waiting months to decide? Because months in, it's formed into a human...
2) When you say human, what do you mean? When I say human, I mean the species

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

1) no it hasn't, and there's multiple reasons why someone might not know they’re pregnant. 1. they might’ve been drugged and not remember. 2. maybe the condom broke or birth control failed etc. 3. they were drunk. 4. cryptic pregnancy.
2) when i say human i mean a birthed human.

[egan3141]

Well, there's the first problem, we have different definitions in the first place. I think the next step I'd like to take is to propose something, but rather than just keeping it between us, I decided to make it a MyTake. AND I'M NOT ALLOWED TO POST FUCKING LINKS
Sorry, uh... check the politics section for a new take about a compromise for pro-abortion and pro-life please.

[goaded]

He means this: A compromise for pro-abortion and pro-life ↗ (I haven't read it yet, but in the US, Roe was the compromise.)

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

i know, i posted my opiniom there.

[egan3141]

Roe isn't a compromise. A compromise is when two parties reach an agreement somewhere between what they wanted (or by each parting getting only some of what they wanted). Roe wasn't an in between or a partial. It was a "This is the law now"

[LongLiveBillGates]

You are 100% spot on. But hey that's CONservatives. thsfd who's always who's anti abortion. They've never done or said anything intelligent or anything that makes sense. They're the ones who wait until they're married to have sex. That's why so many CONservatives are virgins for life. Probably why they're anti abortion because they're mad and jealous of liberals that have tons of sex and much better and exciting lives than them while they love boring sexless lives.

[Sal_Monella]

Yes, It is disgusting for them to get pregnant out of wedlock and then murder their child in the womb for convenience sake. That is disgusting.

[Sal_Monella]

Where? I don't see one.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

He just said ”Where? I dont see one.”!

[Sal_Monella]

You just wrote that. Is it you? I would not want to even imply you are an amoral person willing to kill a child for convenience. So I won't.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

Yeah the braindead really shows🤣

[Sal_Monella]

In murdering children and irresponsible sexual behavior? I agree.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

so you’ve never had sex?

[CalmUntilAbused]

I mean... This is simply called responsibility. If You really are 15, I understand You not getting it (thst's why Your parents might kind of enforce it upon You).

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

oh yes because my condom broke i should have an unwanted kid? that’ll ruin both of our lives. if you force somebody who doesn't want a child to have a child, you have to realise that child won't have a good life.

[CalmUntilAbused]

Yup, that's what responsibility is about. If You don't want a kid, You shouldn't have done the deed. Once the kid is born, adoption is a thing. At least be responsible for the direct consequences of Your actions.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

so you’re okay with parents killing their child? neglecting it? not caring for it?
yet men NEVER have to face concequences for their actions, how convenient!

[CalmUntilAbused]

@imjustagirl15 Duh... I dare You to say in the face of any alimony slave in the West... Though it might be better if You don't, You might not survive. 🤣

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

what part? that men never face concequences bc u literally never do, men really have life on easy mode smh.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@imjustagirl15 That definitely explains the uniformly higher suicide rates for men all over the world, especially in the West. Now, I do not blame You for saying this if You are actually 15, You clearly do not understand the weight of responsibility for literally almost everything that men deal with on a daily basis. We keep the society going, only to come home either to a nagging woman who hates us for the fact we exist or to emptiness. The average man is not Jeff Bezos (oops, I'm speaking Shoe0nHead-ese again). And even Jeff Bezos is not the demon he appears to be (while being really far from being an angel, just to be clear).

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

The higher suicide rates for men is mostly because of the stereotype about ”men not being able to show feelings” or wtv.
you men nowadays dont do shit women dont. you have it easy asf, no responsebilities ever.

[Snakeyes7]

The only ethical use for abortion is to save the life of the mother, which would be incredibly likely to happen anyway if the mother is still a child.

All other reasons for abortion is no different than child sacrifice.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

so a woman needs to be dying to have full rights to her own body? what has this world become…

[Snakeyes7]

This has nothing to do with a woman's body, it's the child in the womb. There is no organ within a woman's body that has a different set of DNA than the rest and eventually becomes another human being.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

and the womb is where exactly?🤔

[Snakeyes7]

What do you think is being aborted in an abortion?

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

the fetus, from the womans womb.

[Snakeyes7]

Right something that grows up into another and unique human being. No part of a woman's body can do that.

[Snakeyes7]

No organ I should say.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

dude. its INSIDE the woman! she gets a choice if she feels like ruining her whole body or not.

[Snakeyes7]

As per Guttmacher Institute, 98.5% of the time the abortions were done because the woman deliberately engaged in the very activity where she risked getting preg

[Snakeyes7]

Pregnant

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

yes and? sex is natural, people will always have sex. thats why abortions need to exist, incase she gets pregnant, and you do know protection can fail right?

[Snakeyes7]

Yeah that's why you shouldn't have with the first person you see in the bar that very night, getting pregnant with a dipshit's kid are one of the many consequences of it and a decent portion of them cannot be cured. If these women had a little bit more common sense they wouldn't find themselves in this mess in the first place. I am tired of people pretending that women are incapable of possessing agency over their own actions when it comes to this stuff.

Oh and before you come after me with the "why is it always the woman's fault?" crap, according to the FBI, women are the only ones who can declare the (heterosexual) intercourse they had to be rape. Take it up with them.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

yeah ofc, but shit happens. it may even be rape or someone got drugged. abortion needs to be there as a last resort.

[Snakeyes7]

That sucks but rape was not the child's fault, it doesn't deserve to die, the rapist should be the one who dies if anything. I personally know one woman who chose to have a child who was conceived from rape and she and the child lived happy lives.

For the record, I am not advocating for abortion to be criminalized because that unleashes a legal mess, I just want us to go back to the time where elective abortion was seen as immoral and abortion as a whole was seen as a life or death matter.

Especially if we make an exception for rape or incest, the number of false accusations will skyrocket like never before in order to justify the abortion.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

can't die if it was never born can it🤷‍♀️ and if you think life begins at conception, why dont the father start paying child support by then?
yeah good for her, yeah she CHOOSE that. the important part is about women being able to choose if they want to keep it or not.

no you want women to be controlled. just say you’re a fucking moron. you dont give a shit about women you only care about controlling women.

there shouldn't be any exceptions because it SHOULD ALWAYS BE A CHOICE FOR THE WOMAN.

[Snakeyes7]

So you passing through some opening makes you alive? What were you before then, "a clump of cells"? Guess what you are a "clump of cells" now in the same way you were before.

Imagine telling your own kid as a mother that she alone has the power to determine whether or not they are a human being. Sounds like a pretty abusive mindset to me.

Because a myriad of things could go wrong even without abortion. I think the child support thing needs a massive reform anyway, it keeps getting applied to people who don't deserve it.

"Wow, a woman being told that it is immoral to murder her own child is controlling her? Thanks I will keep that in mind, women are easier to control than I thought ;)"

... is what I would say if women are truly incapable of having an internal moral compass, which you I both know is retarded.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

uh yes…? no a fetus. now its a baby! hope that helps!

literally how? thats life, get over it dude.

ah yes men who fuck a lot of women but never take responsebility are the people who ”dont deserve it” right?

yes it literally is. telling women what they can and can't do with their body and shaming them if they do whats best for them is controlling. stop being an incel and grow up.

and here he goes again 🤦‍♀️

[Snakeyes7]

So say if I were to shrink someone and shove them back into their mother's womb, do they magically become a fetus again? If so, would it be morally permissable to tear them apart limb by limb or disintegrate them with a saline solution or any other abortion method?

Tfym "literally how?" You have to jump through mental hoops to come to the conclusion that a fetus isn't a human being so you can morally justify destroying it for your own personal gain.

No, I'm talking about no fault divorce being the reason many women abandon their families because of crap like "I wanna find myself" and take half of everything her husband has spent his life building and slapping child support on him due to the Tender Years Doctrine making women have default custody because of the delusion that they are automatically better parents just because they are women. That's the problem I have with child support and the western marriage institution as a whole.

I need to grow up, says the 15 year old. You haven't seen anything about what the world is like yet. You can't even legally drive. I don't even think you can legally have a job yet. You are so inexperienced in life that you legitimately think that people insulting you or hearing opinions you don't like on the internet is the worst thing that can happen to you. You better get used to it otherwise you will never survive the world outside of your parents' house.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

can't really put them back in, can you lol🤣

You do realise women have jobs now too nowadays? if you dont want that happening, dont marry bad women🤷‍♀️

My god you’ll live, you’re taking this so serious its insane. Trust me, you will be fine

[Snakeyes7]

Do you not know what a hypothetical is?

Why would I sign a contract where I am the one who is punished if the other party doesn't hold up their end of the deal? That's foolish.

My point is that I think you will change your mind on a lot of things the more you learn about the world around you.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

Well that hypothetically wouldn't happen. its more of an imaginary situation.

what? what does that have anything to do with it? just pick better women

yeah no, i know enough about my life choices

[4ngelic]

they dont represent the majority of people, you were most likely on a conservative tiktok page

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

i dont care if its the majority, the problem is there's actually people who are alive who think like that.

[In_Trance]

The reality is nobody can force anybody to do anything.
This is just people being brave online saying dumb shit.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

well by banning abortion they’re being forced to give birth.

[In_Trance]

Just because it's banned doesn't mean it's not happening

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

You’re right, its just unsafe now and more and more women will die from it.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@imjustagirl15 That's how responsibility finds a way, You know...

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

ah yes now two lives are ruined! good job! that kid won't have a proper life because its mother was forced to have it, good job! in a few months it’ll be dead!

[CalmUntilAbused]

@imjustagirl15 I was referring to the part about abortion being unsafe. Risking Your own life kind of makes it look like responsibility strikes back.

Also, a kid can be given up for adoption. Any woman torturing her kid instead is simply a deranged monster.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

now the woman is traumatized, men are all against abortion until its their own mistress.
child birth is 10x worse than an abortion.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@imjustagirl15 Well... There is a simple fix I did mention at least once already. If You do not want a kid, do not do the deed.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

sex is natural, people will always have sex wether u like it or not. sure there's concequences to actions, but child birth and having a kid is too much. it’ll destroy everyone involved.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@imjustagirl15 I agree. The point is to be reaponsible about it, and not to do it if You do not want the kid.

[Chocolatetwopoint3]

sure but shit happens, nobody should have a kid they dont want.

[Snowman84]

Religion makes people believe stupid shit, abortion is a medical procedure

[Bklynbadboy12]

That's cause people now a days are stupid the cause more about what people think than whay they're actually doing to there child

[blackeagle007]

Religious fanatics and MAGA. Enough said