Do you agree that its just a matter of time that London became next Islamic state?

[Sam1133]

[Levin]

Okay, let's try and be a bit more nuanced here.

Going off the top of my head with these figures (they may be wrong).

The UK is I believe about 6% Islamic with 4 million Muslims.

I've heard the figure that the UK is likely to be 25-33% Muslim by the end of the century, based on current projections.

So I would say the issue would be more as such:

They seem to be trouble causers or get aggressive even in small numbers, lack a desire to integrate, play the victim card... until they have sufficient numbers.

There are myriad unintegrated communities. You have communities within communities, secterianism is beginning to be birthed - as we saw with the last election. Very dangerous.

There are 4 million Muslims in the UK. According to Google there are 30000 Islamic extremists on the MI5's anti-terror watchlist. Which represents a whopping total of almost 1% of Muslims who are deemed to be potential terrorist threat. What happens when the numbers increase, as they naturally will? This is unmanageable.

The most grotesque terrorist incidents, including at childen's events, well, we all know about them. Sadly, expecting to go to an event and be safe in a western city seems to be a thing of the past.

On the continent myriad Christmas celebrations appear to being cancelled or requiring vast amounts of security money to try and guarantee some form of safety.

Spinelessness from the general population. It seems that the culture will get polluted and destroyed everymore as we try and pander to the god of diversity, rather than our ailing Christian culture. We're seeing this already.

Sadly, it's difficult to see how all of this is not going to compound and get much worse.

[Miristheiss]

Unless England takes bold, strong action, by a true leader with a backbone who has nothing but the long term success of the British people as the goal.

[genericname85]

nope that's never gonna happen. that's far right bullshit. obviously there IS an undeniable problem with immigration especially of the muslim variety. everyone with eyes can see it. but realisticly the only way i see london or any other european country become a "islamic state" is if somehow the islam polulation conquered the entire world in a litteral world war.

[Levin]

I would say my projection is more reasonable and accurate.

[genericname85]

@Levin speaking of "accuracy and reasonableness" i'd love to know where you have the 25-33% prediction figure from. cause that doesn't look like a prediction model based on actual census data. that looks like some idiot looked at some google graphs around the time frame arabic spring and the syrian government collapse and assumed that these huge temporary refugee influxes will be a continuing trend going on through the next 75 years.

[Levin]

I don't think that is very fair. And of course any projections have to be based on assumptions which are based on the data of the past and the present. So of course, it is limited in that sense. We can only predict on the basis of currwnt trends. What we do know is very significant demographic changes have occurred in the UK in the last twenty years. We have our two largest cities become majority non white British for example. The current rate of white British is about 73% in the UK. Compare that to 20 years ago.

www.heterodoxcentre.com/.../3-CHSS-Goodwin.pdf

[genericname85]

@Levin I happen to be in social science. The paper you posted there is a semi academic and non peer reviewed paper that is mainly aimed at opinion making, not at factually stating the census data to make a realistic prediction. And upon reading the source they did pretty much what I said. They did take official census data. Which I'll give them that but it's a prediction that estimates temporary trends to be permanent for the next 75 years which is neither realistic nor accurate. More realistic and peer reviewed studies range the possibile development between 9,7 and 16,7% at the end of the century. Most realistic it will be somewhere between these numbers. It's extremely unlikely to be above 20% if you go by actual social science instead of non peer reviewed opinion makers. You gotta be careful with sources especially around highly political topics.

[Levin]

Well Dr Matt Goodwin is an academic so I presume he has used a reasonable amount of academic rigour. Not peer reviewed? Who gives a shite. We saw enough peer reviewed junk during convid to bring the whole institution of science into disrepute. Peer reviewed or not every paper would have to extrapolate on the basis of what has happened previously, on the basis of patterns remaining the same. Of course, a lot could happen politically and no one has a crystal ball. On the chaos of the current dominant philosophy of globalism, leftism , cuckoldism, and toxic empathy things are not looking good.

[Levin]

by the way, the paper actually says 20% by the end of the century, because you know, I can't remember everything. Which is not that far from your estimate anyway.

[genericname85]

@Levin if you don't give a shit about peer review, you don't give a shit about truth. It's far from my estimate cause we know that the highest prediction is never the one that becomes actuality and your source predicted a higher estimation than even the highest from the scientific consensus. So it's clearly outside of what's regarded as reasonable.

[Sal_Monella]

Unless there is a fascist ethnic cleansing, then EU will be a caliphate in 10 years. Two bad outcomes. Unkle Whiskers is not going to save them a third time. They need a modern Charles Martel.

[jshm2]

Lol, New York is more likely to become the next "zionist state" before London.

[Jersey2]

The US won’t allow that. And you know what happens when they won’t allow things… Venezuela is next to learn.

[exitseven]

The British are recognizing their mistake and are trying to fix it. they might be too late.

[Plantlover44]

It is already

[loveslongnails]

You don't know much about the Brits, do you?

[chickychickyparmparm]

Paris already cancelled its NYE plans. Does that show anyone how serious it's become?

[Lliam]

No. It is already controlled by Zionists.

[In_Trance]

Israel won't let that happen

[Anonymous]

Why do you care?

[Sam1133]

I care

[Opinion Owner]

I thought you were from the United States

[Sam1133]

Yes but right now I came to London for meet someone

[Anonymous]

Yess