How do approach others mental health issues at my work?

[MissPiggy2025]

Im very privileged but I've never really struggled with mental health and pride myself on being really healthy mentally and physically but this means I sometimes struggle to understand or find sympathy for others struggling especially with my own generation and the fact mental health in my opinion is extremely over used and big farmer just wants to pump us full of pills to make lots money. Sickness is the business as I always say.

Im very big on natural remedies and finding the root causes to my health issues instead of using mediation i feel that results in a longer lasting cure.

I do think a lot of the raise in mental health does have do with gen z having a massive victim complex and they constantly use it as an excuse to be lazy or for shitty behaviour but I also do generally believe some people really do struggle also and because of these people all jumping on to the mental health wagon genuine people are getting pushed aside especially in the uk.

there's such a big waiting list to get help for mental health on the NHS because everyone wants a label now in my eyes meaning genuine cases usually these people actually really struggle to open up and talk about these things so give up easier out of fear of bothering others that generally hurts my heart to think about.

Maybe I lack a lot of sympathy but I believe to can have bad times in life and that doesn't mean your depressed it just means your human, humans are allowed to have certain personality traits and emotions without it being classed as mental health. I

I hear people my age say there depressed because there car got written off. When I think of mental health i think of people who've actually suffered like people who've fought in wars and seen there mates get killed not but there hamster died not exactly the same.

I come from the kind of family were if I said I was gonna off myself my parents would have replied "hurry up with it will you, were all sick of hearing about it"

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I do have to deal with a lot of people who throw the mental health card as a get out of jail card at work and its really disgusting to me. I do see genuine cases and most are young men and I want to stay professional but also not cold

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[Levin]

I think you are right in a lot of what you say. Yes, people are essentially victims, in a lot of aspects of life.

Not to take responsibility away from them, but it is the systems they are brought up in where they are over-coddled. It doesn't prepare them for the real world. Avoidance will only magnify the issue 10 fold, and that's where we go wrong.

On the other hand, if a person is truly reflective they should focus on and work on themselves - as a way to make the world better. What your parents say to you does not seem like the right thing to be said, and I hope you are not at the other extreme ie lacking empathy. If so, that could be something you work on.

[MissPiggy2025]

See you understand what im saying im not attacking people with genuine mental health issues if anything I feel bad for them because a lot of people wanting the new sexy designer illness is stopping people witu genuine mental health from getting help

[Levin]

Yes. And it's a bit like that overused quote.

"Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times".

[MissPiggy2025]

There suddenly a lot of it popping up in western society especially with gen z yet in under privileged countries were people have no tv, social media, no health care etc and they live in unbelievable poverty somehow dont stuffer as much with things like depression, anxiety etc. Don't you find that a little odd?

Anyway thank you for having a open and fair discussion with me instead of going into attack mode like others have

[Levin]

I try and not take things too personally.

And that is no problem, Miss Piggy.

[Levin]

Also, you are right about the over-medicalisation of everything. Once you're in the system, it's impossible to get out.

[msc545]

Try to remember that you are not a mental health expert. What bothers you may not be the same as what bothers other people, and what bothers them may not be the same as what bothers you. You shouldn't pass judgment on people about whether you think their illness is genuine, since you really don't know how to evaluate that, and you're not trained or educated enough to do so.

[MissPiggy2025]

No and I agree with that I dont understand and I never will and I think everyone copes differently so no one truly understands whats going on in another person's head but I certainly think there suddenly a lot of it popping up in western society especially with gen z yet in under privileged countries were people have no tv, social media etc and they live in unbelievable poverty somehow dont stuffer as much with things like depression, anxiety etc. Don't you find that a little odd?

Anyway thank you for having a open and fair discussion with me instead of going into attack mode like others have

[msc545]

I find it a little odd but you are making statements and assumptions about the mental state of people in other countries and cultures that you have never been to and probably know little or nothing about. If we pile that on top of the fact that you have no education or training in mental health, your assumptions seem quite far-fetched to me.

[MissPiggy2025]

Mate do you not know how to comment? Why do you keep commenting on others comments?

[MissPiggy2025]

"Based on global health data, countries in East Asia, particularly China (specifically Shanghai), and parts of Sub-Saharan Africa, such as Nigeria, often report the lowest prevalence rates of mental illness,"

[msc545]

Why do you keep posting about things you don't know anything about?

[Anonymous]

You said it pretty much in your first sentence. You're privileged so you don't know what's it like to struggle, to come from a background where family has struggled for generations, and therefore makes having good mental health hard. Also, mental health issues aren't a get out of jail free card for many. We don't choose to be mentally ill, it just happens. One day I was totally fine and the next I started hearing voices. But my great grandma also had it so it passed down to me. I don't use my mental illness-schizophrenia as a way to get out of being a regular person. I take my medication which is needed if you have it, and work just like everyone else.

The reality though is for many today we live in a society that is filled with struggling adults and that struggle is bound to turn into a form of mental illness, whether that's anxiety disorder or depression or some other illness.

Don't preach what you don't know anything about. Like you said in your first sentence. You are a privileged person.

[MissPiggy2025]

I do have people in my family who suffer with mental health actually. a lot of my family suffer with anorexia. Im talking more about these people who self diagnose themselves. Ivd had friends struggle with mental health and I've seen tge self harm scars maybe thats why when I see someone over using the term mental health it gets on my wits. I've even heard people at work tell other colleagues to lie about mental health issues to get themselves out of trouble.

Im not privileged in the sense I've never had anything bad happen to me either.

During covid half my family died and I didn't get to say goodbye and I was bullied at work by a group of older women who stalked me online and found out about my cusions deaths and decided to tease me at work about it. Even putting a bloody tampon in my locker and would constantly yell in my face.

Yes it was horrible, yes I cried a lot, I think I even feel like lost myself at points and have never been the same since but instead of popping pills I left my job and focused on my happiness. I believe a lot of the medical industry is a big con and is trying to make people rely on mediation instead of actually finding a cure

[MissPiggy2025]

I don't think people who have schizophrenia are faking it either thats a very serious mental illness and im sorry you have to suffer with that. Im talking more about people who claim to have anxiety, adhd, auristm, depression you know the fashionable ones. These are same people who usually will make fun of the homeless man on street with real issues but then cry mental health when they get held accountable

[msc545]

Again, you don't know enough about these conditions that you've named to denigrate them. The way you have. That is just abusive. When people label themselves. They are trying to make sense out of what is happening to them and I agree that they often get the labels wrong or do not understand the implications of a particular diagnosis, but they do what. they can to understand themselves. You could be a bit more charitable toward this. Your hostility toward medication is not completely misplaced since a substantial number of psychiatric medications actually don't work very well for most people, but the ones that do work primarily the ones for thought. Disorders and bipolar disorder tend to work reasonably well, although I will admit that they have significant side effects very often. That said, they are better than nothing. I don't think you fully appreciate the suffering that people experience who are mentally ill to the degree at serious medication might be required. I also think you don't understand are not aware of the fact that the primary treatment method for mental illness is psychotherapy which does not involve medication but doesn't involve providers with a great deal of training and knowledge. Psychotherapy is not fast process and doesn't cure everyone, but it certainly makes the experience and behavior of people with mental illness more palatable to everyone, including the person who is ill. Your solution on the other hand is that somehow people should fix themselves. If people could fix themselves obviously they would. Nobody wants to be mentally ill. You are suggesting that everybody should simply fix themselves or else is impractical and abusive.

[msc545]

That should read does involve a great deal of training and knowledge

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

You basically just displayed why your privilege makes you a shitty person by genuinely believing that everyone is faking it for attention on a subconscious level.

[MissPiggy2025]

I don't believe everyone is faking it, I just said I think a lot of people fake it which id stopping a lot of genuine people from getting help

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

You’re just emphasizing my point. You think a majority of sick people are faking it for attention because you yourself can’t understand how it feels, so you assume those feelings don’t exist for anyone else.

[MissPiggy2025]

So you seriously think everyone who says there mentally ill actually is and we should just take them on face value and not question anything and automatically believe them just because they say so

[MissPiggy2025]

Like even if they've never been to doctor or been disorganised we should just believe them? If thats the case I've suddenly turned blind and you have to believe what I say or your a shitty person

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Hell, you might be for all I know, acting like you do with so little sympathy for anyone experiencing something you never have

[MissPiggy2025]

Sorry can't read what you said im blind

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Look, this whole exchange tells me that not only do you not understand what a disability is, because using blindness - a physical disability - and comparing that to mental disabilities and your complaints about self-diagnosis, it also tells me that you refuse to respect what you don’t understand and that only tells me that when I called you a shitty person I was right because a good person doesn’t do that.
Remember: we all become disabled eventually, the only people who don’t are the people who die before they can develop one.

[MissPiggy2025]

Sorry please don't tell me about my disability when you dont understand

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Girl, now you’re just trolling

[MissPiggy2025]

No im using your own logic back at you

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

No you’re not, you’re just showcasing that Dunning-Kruger side of you that’s so eager to get in the last word. You can have it for all I care, my point has been made

[MissPiggy2025]

No im not, im trying to prove my point but you shouldn't just believe what everyone says just to be "the good guy" and likeable.

Your probably one of these that believes trans men can have periods too just because you don't want to hurt there feelings you'd rather fake believe someone to fake being a good person even though deep down somewhere in the back of your mind that hasn't been brainwashed by celebrities and woke media you know they are SOMETIMES full of ball crap and just looking for special treatment.

Personally think Sometimes you have to stop caring about looking the bad guy in search for the truth. I think its crueler allowing someone play victim there whole life just to get social brownie points

[MissPiggy2025]

And dont try to put worlds in my mouth that I never said. I've said the word "some" not "all" multiple times and to act like im making out everyone is faking mental illness is just pure woke nonsense. You people never actually read the full thing and just choose to be outraged instead of actually listening

[exitseven]

Tell them to grow up and stop whining.

[MissPiggy2025]

Personally dont think that will help

[msc545]

Is this another example of what you consider to be your empathy at work?

[exitseven]

@msc545 tough love

[msc545]

No, it's a demonstration of your total lack of empathy. You simply do not have the capacity for it.