Should Animism Return?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

China is advancing so fast right now but not to show off. They're doing it to improve their living. Of course with a little motivation to surpass the west and of course to attract traders around the world like what they use to do. Communism may come to mind but that's not really the case for Japan, S Korea and Taiwan, fairly westernized, yet they still have practical use for their technologies.

It's clear it's rooted in ancient wisdom, philosophies, Confucianism and pragmatism which have ancient/animistic roots, that's still applied today with modern technologies. Tech being practical used in railways, side walks, environment, healthcare, infrastructures, manufacturing and farms that makes people's lives more convenient. They're stuck in ancient times with modern tech.

The west is stuck in the industrial age with territories around the world, with systems like capital accumulation, competition, and market-driven growth which can lead to inequality, monopolies, consumerism and environmental damage. Corporates focus on tech slops, at a cost of RAM, water and electric shortage, selling tech like gadgets and smart devices for individuals to solve minor problems. Current western powers, continue to face internal pressure, tech giants exploiting people, to compete with the world indicating their empire is not over, only not on paper.

How the west keeps policing the world, it's they're still trying to dominate, demonize cultures that doesn't fit their norms. This is why I think animism should return. It existed around the world and every civilizations was once animistic. Rules was simple. People hunt, connect, sing, make art and survive. That makes us humans. People do crazy things in crisis but AI and tech can exist to make life easier so people do arts, music, games and sports like what they use to do and old jobs becomes simulators. AI slops just take those away from humans. Animism shouldn't even just return but be the dominant culture around the futuristic world.

Yes

No

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4 mo

Interestingly, Portugal, Spain and Netherlands used to be very powerful at the age of exploration, don't even compete anymore. They're using tech to improve their livelihood which is why they lack the "industrial issues" those industrial powers have and their former colonies don't even hate them as much. That's because they're doing something that every countries should do. Prioritizing their livelihood rather than to show off.

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4 mo

No countries are perfect nor better than the others. China is China, America is America, Europe is Europe and so on. They're only better at being themselves than the others.

[Zack-Bann]

China is the worst example of a developed nation
Oppressing and abusing its people under a totalitarian regime full of censorship and indoctrination from birth


It might be economically strong but people aren’t rich, they struggle and live in poverty as the state uses them like farm animals


I find it laughable when people use China as an example of how to do things better


Capitalism and freedom are messy and often times deadly
But when they’re not they are the purest form of freedom the human race has ever been allowed to


Until democracy resurfaced during the Age of Enlightenment, humans had suffered from thousands of years of misery.


As bad as our world seems today, it’s still a million times better to be born today than it was a few hundred years ago

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Yes they have their own problems but they also have their own perks. And sometimes what you think is their problem is not exactly the problem of the people's culture in China. It's only unethical according to your Western norms. And chances are you got that information like 10 years ago. This is 2026 I'm talking about.

[Zack-Bann]

My information is 2 months old
From someone who went there on a business trip
It’s not better
And never will be

And yes I get that cultural difference is a real thing but let’s not sugar coat child abuse
Many cultures would gladly do it doesn’t mean they’re right to do so because it’s cultural
These are human lives

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You can address that issue but you don't justify prejudices. A reason why culture shape over the years is because of peaceful cultural exchange, diplomacy and trades not coercion.

Chinese and Indian neighboring countries civilized because of those two ancient powers not because they were coerced but because they were taught how to trade.

It would have likely been the same trajectory if China discovered mesoamerica and may have end human sacrifice if they learned new ways to see life in a new perspective.

Though the downside of it is it will not end as fast as possible, It is also less likely to leave trails of prejudice, propagandas, social divisions and extremists like what's happening in Middle East, a product of Western influence, attempting to "liberate them".

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Also, you keep in mind that the idea of freedom and what is oppression is not even universal. That mindset is just supremacy trying to make the western standards the universal one. https://youtu.be/XZLOPwQYMxc?si=w70JBr0WA_nemlC6

[LC75LC71]

I do and say as I choose. It is up to others to allow or deny such behavior.

[RandomGirl42]

Definition:

1: The attribution of a soul to plants, inanimate objects, and natural phenomena.

2: The belief in a supernatural power that organizes and animates the material universe.

Animism has never left. We just forgot how to see it.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And this question ask if it should be remembered.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

That still means it hasn't returned to our senses

[RandomGirl42]

Ty for the MHO 😊

[Aiko_E_Lara]

*hugs*

[OlderAndWiser]

"People hunt, connect, sing, make art and survive. That makes us humans." But how you gonna keep 'em down on the farm once they've seen gay Paris?"

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Ancient philosophies and wisdom matters a lot today which had been erased by industrial powers, which was used to keep people in check.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I mean nothing is truly black and white. Something you don't like about a civilization, nobody has the rights to police them.

[OlderAndWiser]

But most people would rather pursue greedy desires rather than spiritual enlightenment.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

That's because Western civilization has condition to make anyone that way. Sure everyone can be greedy but that doesn't mean they cannot control it. What made Europe that way historically is there scarcity of resources, and China being resource rich didn't have to conquer but rather trade with their neighbors. With AI and technology making basic human needs abundant, there's very little reason for people to be greedy.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

And of course the reason why people are greedy today is because the animistic value and ancient wisdom is often overlooked. People forget that we're just humans. Tech Giants and AI CEOs dehumanize humans. It's very clear on their interviews. People are protesting but they cannot put it in words. Nobody even know why people started as being animists in the first place. It's very clear that people just wanted to be humans, only they can't express it that way because of whatever modern stigma they have in their minds.

[OlderAndWiser]

There's no reason, but greed is not a logical response. It is driven by emotions, primarily fear.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Even if it's not logical, fear is still a "reason." Like why is he greedy? Reason? Because fear.

But what fear exactly? Like there are many other factors like for example just like in Europe, scarcity and the fear of other competitors. North Korean dictators being so greedy to the detriment of its own country because of the fear of the communist propaganda about the West. If humans connected somehow with how humans used to be, technology making everything abundant, fear would decrease. Perhaps a possible world peace would happen.

We are already entering a new age of AI and it can go either at Dystopia with whatever reason to be greedy or a Utopia reflecting at our past.

[Dargil]

Western civilization is burning out. It will recycle. It will first sink onto anarchy and then give way to Feudalism. Like following Rome That will dry up the spigot of Western money and China, already committing demographic suicide, will follow. It will descend into tribalism.

I'm predicting that India will emerge as a self sustaining state if they can level off theologically as USA did under post-Luther Christianity. They will need lots of nuclear produced electricity and A. I. to prosper.

[exitseven]

The only thing China has going for it is slave labor. A totalitarian government is good for the people at the top but the rest live with suicide nets.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You're mistaking authoritarian with totalitarian. Yes it's not a perfect nation. Neither is your nation perfect yet you are still failing to see how it works for them. But in the end, you're not forced to adopt an authoritarian government and the Chinese culture like China has.

[exitseven]

At the end of the day it is the cheap labor that gives China a certain advantage. They can only keep their factories open by keepinng a boot on the neck of the workers.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

But with benefits. Though they're not able to own anything in china, they're still housed and secured. Whether you agree or not, it works for them. Either you apply that same system to your or just make democracy better within it instead of shoving it into people's throats. A pattern happening right now is Microsoft is planning an age verification into operating systems which China has been doing to their people and many people protests. Lies like "to protect children" I believe is a hoax. They're doing that for whatever motivation it they have. One reason is likely to compete with China, maybe by spying on people to gather more data, in attempt to "discipline" the people, which is not gonna work in a democratic culture. And FYI, poverty rate in china had always been decreasing.

[exitseven]

It does not "work" for them. They have factory cities where people share a room with somebody whom works the opposite shift. They put up big suicide nets to keep people from killing themselves. The country is just one big slave labor camp with 99% of the profits going to the govvernment.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

That's likely a 2000s/2010s news. In 2026, their suicide rate declined. Their change had always been dynamic though the years. You can see it as slave, but that's only according to western norms. Seeing everything as a package rather than the nuances.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I don't even think all Westerners are supremacists who think that way.

As i've mentioned, Portugal, Spain and Netherlands used to be very powerful at the age of exploration, don't even compete anymore. They're using tech to improve their livelihood which is why they lack the "industrial issues" those industrial powers have and their former colonies don't even hate them as much. That's because they're doing something that every countries should do. Prioritizing their livelihood rather than to show off.

Those even having great trade access to China despite being democratic countries. Because they don't disrespect China. They don't engage into geopolitics much and media washing like they use to do but rather just be pragmatic. Unlike Taiwan, Japan and Korea being heavily brainwashed by the industrial powers in the 20th century.

[Pohjolan]

We should pretend that spirits exist?

Nah.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You don't have to adapt it wholesale But pragmatically. Even scientifically speaking, yes it does come with a consequence if you take nature for granted whether you believe it or not.

[Pohjolan]

"it does come with a consequence if you take nature for granted "
What?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It doesn't take a genius. I just got done all of your trees right now and don't even replace them. And don't complain about the heat.

[Pohjolan]

Are you a AI or are you using Google translate?