Here's a screenshot of my ship tracker showing the chaos America is causing. Ships destined to all over the world held hostage. Most of these aren't even from Iran.
Let's be honest, America doesn't give a shit about Iran. This is all about forcing us to buy American oil isn't it?
Pumps are running dry here. We've got truckers and farmers in Ireland telling the army to come and have a go if you think you're hard enough.
So is it time to put international military pressure on America? Because I don't think Trump will do jackshit if we ignore his blockade.
They are at war with Iran, or the regime in Iran if you want to differentiate.
Iran is 100% responsible for the closure, not the US and not Trump. This has been going on for YEARS. More like decades. So if this is Trump's fault, who was to blame long before he was ever in office?
Trump is trying to stop this bullshit, and should continue until it stops. Iran and it's proxies have been disrupting sea traffic for far too long. It's past due for the world to stop giving lip service and start doing something substantial.
Countries all around the world, and the EU and the UN ( including the IAEA ) have been condemning Iran for years. But they don't do shit. Other countries have led attacks, but they have been ineffective. Iran needs to be stopped once and for all.
Anyone who's been paying attention should know this has been an ongoing war for a very long time, and it needs to fucking end. I hope like hell that Trump doesn't pull out short of finishing the job. Iran needs to completely stop their bullshit and not start again a few years later. That's not going to happen as long as the world keeps shaking their finger and saying "naughty naughty" but not doing anything about it.
Amazing how many world leaders praised the attack, yet are too much of a pussy to help out. This is exactly the reason why so many Americans want to pull out of NATO. That was also true long before Trump came into office.
The USA is at war with itself. We are a deeply divided nation and always have been for 250 years. A landed aristocracy has used race, religion, ethnic origin, and anything else they could find to stoke the fires of hate in the masses and deflect attention from the economic rape of Capitalism.
One group thinks the enemy is non Whites, and any religion other than Protestant Christianity.
The other group thinks the enemy is the unwashed masses who deserve their lot in life as economic slaves.
Our brief experiment with a middle class is coming to an end. And wealth inequality is about to trigger our 2nd Civil War.
I hate to say it but the US military is so powerful that no world alliance could challenge them. I mean the Royal Navy for instance has more admirals than ships.
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America is, and always has been, at war with itself
The US uses most of its oil supply. Depending upon a given year’s production, market prices and other economic factors, the US only sells up to a third of its reserves. There is no benefit to the US government for increasing demand. The oil companies benefit. And not all oil companies are based in the USA. The other countries aren’t fighting because every country on the planet is invested in oil. People who talk about banning petroleum products are morons. You can’t even imagine life without petroleum products. Every facet of your life is impacted heavily by the petroleum economy and the enormous variety of goods and services that are derived from it. Furthermore, there are thousands of companies all over the world that profit from it. Drumpf couldn’t make or break them even if he wanted to. Nobody can. Capitalism has too much momentum and it drives everything everywhere.
they usually venture together... America seizes and points, the British go there set it up
the top of oil companies in the UK, are making top money as well and initially, the British were in it too and willing as well, when it was profitable for them to get involved, they even opened their military bases, hubs and depots to Trump as long as it was worth for them
but then... Trump went too far, and of course... the British saw it not worth the same as a country anymore, but their oil companies are still making a profit for sure, not just American ones
but go ahead... tell the politicians both in the UK and US to put pressure on these oil companies and they won't do shit about it
politicians here and there will do as they're told by these companies, lol
He is a complete and utter idiot, and you may be onto something with the bit about American oil, but how about this: he is very tight with MBS of Saudi, Qatar gifted him a jet. He has removed all sanctions from Russian oil and at least some from Iran. Could be just to drive the price of oil up in general and probably manipulate the stock markets as well. Sadly the people who have the ability to remove him are all sycophants at the moment...
4 tankers that stopped at Iranian ports completely ignored the US threats and passed through the Strait of Hormuz since the start of the blockade. Most countries would rather have oil and not destroy their economy than stop Iran from enriching uranium. The blockade won't last long because it does more damage to the rest of the world than it does to Iran. The Chinese Naval escort fleet is a stones throw away in the Gulf of Aden.
let's also consider that an attack on a Chinese vessel, or that of any other nation could be considered an attack on that country rather than Iran. While he may be fool enough to do someting like that... There are reports that US military is not necessarily carrying out all of the orders given.
In Trump's first term, a common criticism of Trump was that he "ignored" the threat of Iran building nukes. Both MSNBC and CNN hosted many commentators who made this criticism.
Funny that now that Trump has taken action, the Left is now pro-Iran. It's comical.
Haha! No one claimed trump ignored the threat of iran. The dude killed the Obama deal. That was beyond stupid. And now to distract from his pedophilia he attacks Iran.
America is legally not at war with anyone, there's been no declaration of war by Congress.
Iran is the one blocking the Strait of Hormuz, but allowing some ships to pass... if they are transporting Iranian oil or if they pay a fee.
The US is now blockading Iranian ports so they can no longer export oil. That should hurt them economically and force them back to the negotiation table, which looks like that might be happening... but we'll have to wait and see
@purplepoppy Generically Yes, but not legally according to US law and US Constitution. War declarations enable the government to do specific things. Without a declaration, those things are limited.
@purplepoppy You are correct. I'm referring to US law, what the US government can do with a War Declaration vs without one. For example, rationing food and fuel, enforcing a curfew can be done with a declaration, it cannot without one. The War Powers Act allows the President to take military action, but only for 60 days. Longer requires a Declaration of War or approval by Congress, who can set further limits.
@purplepoppy FYI, the last time the US actually declared war was in WWII against Japan and Germany. Everything since then (Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Iran, etc.) have been military actions without a Declaration of War.
The way I'm seeing it is our big government is at war with its people or that's what they're trying to start because they are taking us down the wrong rabbit holes that's for sure like every other War it's fake it's all about greed and money and control and manipulation
Um... Iran. Iran is the one that won't submit and agree to not make nukes and free the ships.
I'm in favor of leaving and letting UK and France take it to the finish line. For what it's worth, I'm sorry. I thought you guys had huge oil reserves off the coast... BP oil?
And Lightbulb, why would the UK and France take anything to the finish line? It would be much easier to negotiate with Iran ad get their oil than to depend on something as irrational and irresponsible as the USA.
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We are not at war with anybody we are disciplining an evil dictator Country destroying their Nuclear technology capability. They’ve been wishing death to America for 47 years in enough is enough. We can’t allow them to have power like that. They’re extremely dangerous.
Analysis: Iran likely transferred highly enriched uranium to Isfahan before the June strikes
Satellite imagery shows that Iran could have transferred to Isfahan up to 540 kilograms—possibly all—of its highly-enriched uranium inventory before the June strikes last year.
I can't find it now, but I was gonna say that Iran has no legal authority to block/control the strait.
You can blame America or not, that's for another discussion. The issue with what you're saying though, is the regime is still place. Ayatollah Jr, if he's even still alive is furious! If we surrender now, the regime will double down on the Iranian people, as well as the US and its allies, so whether you like it or not, Trump has no choice now but to see this thing through and win.
Talk to your government, which has sold the people of the UK out and is replacing you with Muslims. Do not blame us for your government's lack of action to preserve your old way of life in the New Muslim Europe. The UK REFUSED the use of airfields and the right to fly over us. Why should we care about you since you won't help us take care of the bad guys? Enjoy your lives without our help, and pay most of the cost to run NATO
The north sea is full of oil. If a scrap between the exhiles & intellectual rejects of Europe and the exhiles & intellectual rejects of the Turkey is causing fuel shortages in the UK, that is our own fault for allowing ourselves to become dependent on others.
No one! It's not a war! It's more of a military action. If it's a war, why are there no newscasts showing battlefields and the amount of casualties stacking up?
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I don't think America has enough oil to supply the world.
And the increase in oil price is ruining things for everyone, America included.
basically the rest of the western world. cause guess who benefits From the straight of hormuz being blocked? it makes the usa a oil monopoly for a lot of western nations.
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