When Ukraine wins against Russia will it join the EU & open its boarders to replace its dwindling birth rates & population?

[Anonymous]

[RavVid]

In WW Eleven, the boys and girls celebrated extensively to have a baby boom after. Same happened after WW I but the splurge didn't last as long as it did after WW Eleven.

They may not need any help.

[Asker]

Those that lived through WW11 truly were the greatest generation

[RavVid]

Well I often say ordinary men doing extraordinary things.

Kokoda won't mean anything to you I would think but the Japanese landed on the northern side of Papua (near Quadalcanal where US troops were fighting).

Just 400 raw untrained Aussie conscripts against nearly 6000 Japanese troops but they managed to stop them a few miles from Port Moresby on the southern side. Today occasionally a tourist dies on the Kokoda trail doing the trek. It is that exerting.

I was very honored to meet a former marine who fought at quadal on a Melbourne tram.

Very extraordinary men who were ordinary blokes before the war. Virtually everybody was mobilized in factories at home. Queen Elizabeth became a motor mechanic in WWII and was known to do emergency vehicle repairs later in life.

Yeah it was the greatest generation.

[slatyb]

Join the EU? Likely. Open it's borders? Unlikely. Sounds like fake news.

[Asker]

They won't have a choice.

[slatyb]

Definitely fake news.

[DryGermanGuy]

Of course it is. That idiotic picture shows a WEF flag on the cemetery, wtf!!!

[Asker]

@DryGermanGuy Just look at Brussels, famous for their sprouts are now a minority in their own country

[lightbulb27]

they will have to immigrate a bunch of men to replace the ones they lost.

not so sure how this ends... stalemate with russia taking donbas?

probably should join nato at that point.

those men and women... must be exhausted...

[strateguy632]

They should open borders now and draft some for army.

[Asker]

The US tried something similar to that in Syria., Afghanistan and libyia. Turned out they were arming, funding and training the takiban and alqueda.
Imagine the German army did what you suggest. It would just speed up the eventual German caliphate.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

When the war will finish the plan is to rebuild the nation with the Russian money that are confiscated and make Russia pay war reparations.
About EU, normaly that what the politicians say.
But i will sugest first unconditionaly joining NATO and then fix their economy and justice sistem, so thei can enter clean and safe in the EU.

Is better for evrybody that Ukraine join NATO first, before EU.

[CaptainObivous]

lol when Ukraine wins. This is the only situation in which Ukraine wins.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

You are a russian fool.
Ukraine will win.
Ukraine economy is better then Russia one and Russia will need around 200 yares to take Ukrain in the curent speed.
USSR didn't win in Afganistan, so a smaller versio like Russia, will just be rekt by Ukraine defance.

[CaptainObivous]

@Alexandrubaschet08 I'm an American, not Russian idiot, not falling for MIC lies does not make someone a Russian fool, if anything, the people supporting the failed proxy war are the fools. Ukraine will not win, if pigs magically start flying and Ukraine is on the verge of defeating Russia, Russia isn't going down quietly, they are going to use nukes and take everyone down with them. US /NATO didn't win in Afghanistan either so your point is mute.

[Asker]

@Alexandrubaschet08 you are right Russia has won nothing. Can't even hold a military parade without begging Ukraine not to attack. Did you notice the lack of military hardware at the recent may day parade, the rumours of shortages must be very real. Word is that they've run out of 1980s & 1970s hardware and are now dipping into the 19650s and 60s.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

USA and NATO didn't failed as well in Afganistan. If they fail, show the the capitulation of USA and NATO document.
And Russia have under zero chances to win in Ukraine.
Russia was alwase a failed state then lost WW1.
They win the WW2 just AND BECAUSE the USA program Land Lease

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

[Alexandrubaschet08]

www.rferl.org/.../30599486.html

Russia had lost so many war and so many time It had been very lucky to win moust of them. And is so big, because in the east the Kazaks had been BUY to fight!

[Alexandrubaschet08]

I see that Russia is advancing with the speed of a snail and will rich Kiev in like 200 yares.
And i know that Ukrain economy is doing way better then Russia, so in 200 yares Russia will collapse for the 3 time.
Each time Russia had become smaller and smaller.
Tsars Empire - 22.8 million square kilometers (approximately 8.8 million square miles)
USSR - (22,4 milioane km²)
Russia - 17.1 million square kilometers (approximately 6.6 million square miles).

[DryGermanGuy]

You Russian bots, trolls and liars are so boring and predictable with your AI slop, it’s almost comical. 🙄

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

👌🏼👌🏼

[Asker]

What do you mean. Mass Immigration is happening all over the EU, why would Ukraine be different.

[DryGermanGuy]

No, it doesn't. The EU is currently working with Syria to return one million Syrians. And the usual smuggling routes in the East are closed, because Belarus and Russia tried to use immigrants as asymmetrical weapon against the EU. Now these poor idiots die as cannon fodder for Russia in Ukraine.

[Asker]

So the EU has now swung far right and won't take immigrants from the 3rd world. Is diversity not our strength and is the EU now the 4th reich?

[DryGermanGuy]

Go away, you sad little troll.

[Asker]

So 10 years later you think open boarders in the EU was a mistake and that Europe should build a wall?

[Lliam]

When Ukraine wins against Russia? ROFL

[msc545]

Ukraine is not going to win against Russia.

[Asker]

Its already won as its still a country even if its lost territory. Russia on the other hand has lost big.

[CaptainObivous]

Ukraine hasn't won, and will never win, this whole Ukraine is winning is just a lie to get people to continue to support and fund the proxy war that only exist to enrich defense contractors and western corporations while inflicting damage to Russia.

[Asker]

@CaptainObivous care to explain what Russia has won and what makes it worth the loses theyve incurred?

[CaptainObivous]

I can't explain as I never said Russia has won, what I said is that Ukraine hasn't won and will never win. Currently neither side is really winning, but eventually Ukraine will run out of men and women and possibly funding, leading to a situation where either US and NATO has to put troops on the ground or Ukraine is forced to accept a peace agreement that includes not joining NATO, likely scenario, Ukraine is forced to accept a peace deal, as US and NATO isn't going to put troops on the ground rising nuclear war.

[Asker]

@CaptainObivous did the Soviet Union win in WW2 ?
Ukraine manpower is holding steady. Russia on the other hand is having severe manpower shortages due to losses, losses conscripts can replace and conscription more has a knock effect on Russian industry.

[CaptainObivous]

Winning WW2 was a joint effort, and like it or not the Soviet Union played a crucial role in helping Allies defeat Germany and Axis powers, without the Soviet Union, who suffered the most causalities of the war, it would have been next to impossible for the Allies to have won, and this isn't my opinion, a lot of historians agree that Allies wouldn't have won without Soviet Union.. It's not just Russia, both sides are dealing with a manpower problem, Ukrainians have been fleeing to Europe to avoid serving and the Ukrainian government has expanded military eligibility to those over 60. The only way this war ends, is defense contractors and western corporations decide it's no longer profitable enough to keep the proxy war going, forcing Ukraine to defend for them selves which they can't resulting in a unfavorable peace deal that benefits Russia.

[WhiteBoyChill]

What makes you think Ukraine will win?

[Asker]

Theyve already won. They still exist

[CaptainObivous]

Japan and Germany both lost WWII and they both exist.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

THAT RUSSIA IS FAILD NATION AND THE SECOND MOUST POWERFUL NATION AFTER UKRAINE!
Ukraine is holding the front like very well and help is comming soon, that will F Russia even harder in their A*S!

[WhiteBoyChill]

@Alexandrubaschet08 where’s the sign of help coming? And how’s ukraine more powerful if they can’t get Russia off 20% of their territory?

[Alexandrubaschet08]

The EU is going to unlock an aid of 90 billion euros for Ukraine, this amount is more than enough to last at least 4 more years from the moment of receiving it.
In the past, the US+EU contribution hardly exceeded 70 billion.
Thus, we observe that the EU is making a colossal effort to support Ukraine, waiting for the fall of Trump and the coming to the leadership of the USA of a more normal person at the head, who will once again offer a helping hand in stabilizing global security. Trump being a retard, sick, stupid and crazy, which is not based on any logical plan.

Ukraine stopped recovering from the territories once Trump came to power and cut off any American aid from 2024 until now. Until the arrival of Trump, Ukraine was taking small but constant steps in recovering its territories and escaping more and more military limitations from the US or EU countries.

At this moment Ukraine, with all the pressure from Russia, the USA and the situation in Iran which has hit the EU hard and which is being forced by the fool Trump to carry the burden alone for Ukraine, it is still resisting!

Ukraine still resists heroically and is far from capitulating, the Russian army can't even get close to Kiev, and the EU still has possibilities to continue bleeding Russia into Ukraine.

Glory to Ukraine!

[Asker]

@Alexandrubaschet08 who is ultimately benefitting from the Ukraine war and straits of hermouss blockade?

[Alexandrubaschet08]

RUSSIA!
Forging EU to spend lot of money and admonition on the front and not making stocks.
RUSSIA! By having his Iran as allied, blocking Hurmuz increase the oil price, helping Russia get some more money from his Asian costumers.
RUSSIA! By putting their ex-KGB agent in power in SUA at the White House to cut Ukraine suport from USA.
RUSSIA! By letting Maduro be capturate and let Venezuela get under USA control, forcing in this way China to buy more from Russia, now with hier price!

[Asker]

@Alexandrubaschet08 actually the war in Ukraine is helping the European arms industry set up, theyve untapped potential for the manufacture of weapons. Germany outside the US is the largest producer of armored vechiles and they don't even buy them domestically.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

You are out of your minde.
Yes Europe is arming themselves against Russia aggressive speech and treat and it should do so.
But i'm not living better and have more money because of Russia - Ukraine war started in 24 Feb 2022 by the Russia invasion on Ukraine!
THIS WAS IN BEEN STARTED BY RUSSIA!
RUSSIA IS THE IMPERIAL STATE OF THE WORLD, MORE THEN ANY OTHER NATION!
RUSSIA INVADE GEORGIE!
RUSSIA INVADE MOLDOVA!
RUSSIA INVADE CECENIA!
RUSSIA INVADE BELARUS AND KAZACSTAN!
RUSSIA IS A TERORIST STATE AND THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PROSPER NATION WHEREVER RUSSIA PUT THEIR STEP COMPARING WITH USA THAT REVIVE WEST Europe, JAPAN, S. KOREA, BEEN SO LOVED THAT AFGANS RUN AFTER THE USA AIRPLANES!

RUSSIA CAN GO TO HELL!

[Asker]

@Alexandrubaschet08 European arms industry is booming.
America is selling its oil/gas to Europe for bug money.
Russia is selling its oil at a reduced rate affecting its oil/gas profits.
Russia is spending all its countries resources on holding the worthless donbass anf its economy is breaking.
Russia got played into invading Ukraine and now putin can't get out

[Alexandrubaschet08]

USA don't send enought for Europe and there are a lot of tax, by stupit Trump.
Even Biden ask Quatar in 2022 to send more oil to Europe and nou Trump block that road.
The military industry in Europe is growing fast because of the danger of Russia, but other business are been afecated, houusing , medical care, schools sistems, infrastructures improvment.
You don't understand history at all.
In WW2 USA was the only country who grow economicly because of the program Land-Lis.
USA having a masive market to sell to the world and a grate geographical location to protect itself.

USA have moust of the request for amunitions, money and diferent other equipments moustly from UK and USSR.
USA having only one way to spend money, not needing to concentrate to much on defending USA, protect the civilian, build the destryed buildings, road.

When you talk about wars 1 vs 1 with USA, USA don't win NOTHING from that war.
Only losing more money, more people, expensive equipments, salarys etc.

In order for USA to be profitable, they need to fight like in WW2 all the world against a small number of enemy, but very powerful, so it can be a masive request for their production.

Russia is been robt by China and India when it come to the gass and oil.
Russia right now is like a cow from them, Europe was the only one who pay a fair price to Russia.
Now Russia is having full interes to grow the oil price in the world.
If ever oil price go down, Russia will be in masive sh**t!

Russia have absolutely, ZERO chances to win!
Even WW2 will had lost if it was not USA to suport them economicly.