Antifa leader gets 100-year sentence for anti-ICE attack: good or bad?

[SolitarySolace]

Antifa leader gets 100 years in prison - https://youtu.be/g8HKMmkdypg?is=b39lacrZs0TxrATW

Antifa leader Benjamin Song sentenced to 100 years for Texas anti-ICE terror attack, 7 other militants also sentenced - https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-antifa-leader-benjamin-song-sentenced-to-100-years-for-texas-anti-ice-terror-attack-7-other-militants-also-sentenced

Yes, good! Accountability!

No, this is bad! They were just protesting! Trump = Fascist

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Antifa Cell Members Convicted in Prairieland ICE Detention Center
Shooting - www.justice.gov/.../antifa-cell-members-convicted-prairieland-ice-detention-center-shooting

They Say They’re Protesters. The DOJ Says They’re Terrorists - newrepublic.com/.../texas-antifa-protest-case-doj-free-speech-test

2025 Prairieland ICE detention center incident - en.wikipedia.org/.../2025_Prairieland_ICE_detention_center_incident

[exitseven]

if they would not give him the death penalty I guess this is the next best thing.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[strateguy632]

good finally deter crime. maybe 100 years is better than life sentence!

[strateguy632]

also genius poll options! superb!

[OlderAndWiser]

"Just protesting" means speaking in opposition to someone else. When protesting involves blocking highways, setting cars or buildings on fire, or attacking other people, it is no longer a protected freedom of expression. It is a criminal action and those boundaries need to be reinforced until the self-righteous on the left understand that their arrogant certainty of their beliefs doesn't give them a license to violate the law with impunity.

[Phunk_Fenomenon]

this is awesome!

I also like the idea of labeling the whole entire Antifa freaks as terrorists

[SofaKingsMart]

And the labelling of any protester as Antifa?
You like that too?

[Phunk_Fenomenon]

@SofaKingsMart I think you are getting "protestors" and "rioters" mixed up

[findacure4wokeness]

Antifa members needs to be deported to the 3rd world, Many will be crying "but we are on your side" as they are diced up with machetes.

[Brady]

I didn't watch the video. Good accountability. They r terrorists. They broke a window of I think a court room and attacked a S. L. police car/cars when it wasn't those police that killed a blak suspect for resisting arrest or running away.

[loveslongnails]

Do you all know what "Antifa" stands for? I doubt it. There IS no organized "Antifa" movement. If there was, Trump would have been gone long ago, and so would his followers.

[SolitarySolace]

If antifa weren’t an organization why do they have leaders? 🤔

[Smegskull]

It just stands for national socialists right? There's nothing wrong with it, right guys?

[loveslongnails]

They don't have a hierarchy of leaders. They're about as organized as a week-end touch football game. You have a few groups here and there doing their best to stop fascism in the USA, which is what's REALLY going on. Antifa stands for "Anti-fascist", which is EXACTLY what the Trump government IS. So naturally, Trump brands them as domestic terrorists so they can be treated the same way as any foreign terrorist.

[Smegskull]

The lable is not the thing. Calling yourself the "good things" movement doesn't make the things you do good. Violence or threats of violence to achieve political change without going through nation's political process would make you a terrorist. Whether Trump, or anyone else, "brands" you as a terrorist would be irrelevant, you would still be a terrorist. Terrorist is a description of reality (i. e. objective) not an identity.

[loveslongnails]

@Smegskull "Violence or threats of violence to achieve political change without going through nation's political process would make you a terrorist". In other words, the United States was founded by terrorists who committed violent acts against their government. Glad you pointed that out because you just proved my point.

Your argument sounds nice and theoretically correct UNTIL the actual government BECOMES fascist. Yet, you continue to insist that fascism "is just another type of political system". Believe what you want; I won't engage in a philosophical argument about that. Your point is a walking logical fallacy, and you've fallen for it.

Fascism has been, is, and always WILL be, the ABSENCE of real process and the resultant authoritarian enforcement of one party or person's will upon citizens. Even as we speak, Trump's lackies move 24/7 to make it logistically impossible to "vote them" out of office, which seems key to your calling it a "nations political process". When you rig it, manipulate it or impose undue hardships on your opponents to make their choice, you're bullshit. You're living in it right here, right now, in the good old USA, if you're even living there. Corrupt governments ALWAYS do what Trump is doing. Your inability to see it is a personal problem.

[Smegskull]

Revolution and terrorism are slightly different, though they do both go outside of a nation's political process. Terrorism is about forcing a political change within the existing hierarchy. Revolution is about replacing the existing hierarchy with another.

I am not making a political point. I don't care what excuse Americans use to reduce their blight on the world. My point is linguistic, because as long as the Americans keep calling the language they speak English then the words mean whatever I damn well tell them they mean.

What you are describing sounds like dictatorship but you are calling it fascism (the two are independent of each other). Fascism is the corporate state (lobbyists on steroids) it has nothing to do with the fake face of a process that is just there for show or the leader at it's helm. It comes from the word fascio ("bundle of sticks" hence the logo), not facie.

Fun fact, the English word for fascio (bundle of sticks) would be f***** (though it has fallen out of use thanks to the American slur displacing the spelling), so in English fascism should translated as faggotism.

[loveslongnails]

@Smegskull Putting it bluntly, I don't care about the linguistics lesson. The average American comprehends and reads on a 6th grade level anyway.

Fascism and dictatorships go hand in hand. There are few, if any, relevant examples where they didn't, and please don't even bring up communism or Cuba. It's not worth the banter.

"Terrorism is about forcing a political change within the existing hierarchy? Seriously? Where the heck did you come up with THAT definition? FORCED political change, let's call it policy for the moment, within an existing hierarchy is what happens when a party wins an election and controls all branches of government. However, when said government is supposedly governed by laws. When those laws get continually get re-defined, sidestepped, blatantly ignored or supplanted by subsequent laws removing former rights, and are clearly designed to take about the freedoms and autonomy granted by the founders of said nation, they you have freaking problem, dude.

Money has ALWAYS washed hands with government in the USA, and it wasn't necessarily "fascism" when it did unless you want to reduce it to ruling class vs everyone else. That's a different argument, but for the time being, the Trump administration is imposing this definition of terrorism on its citizens: " The use of violence or of the threat of violence in the pursuit of political objectives", while simultaneously doing the EXACT same thing against its citizens.

Rules for thee, not for me, IS exactly what fascism is all about. Since you don't live in the USA, and don't really know what's happening in it, I'm not going any deeper in a linguistics lesson, since that's not the point!! What IS the point, is that the fascist Trump administration is INDEED a blight on the world, but foremost, on the citizens of the USA, most of whom are too stupid to know it.

[Smegskull]

They do often go hand in hand. Any political system that requires the suppression of the public's free will tends to result in a dictatorship.

When a party wins an election it isn't forced... That's the point of the election, it provides the public consent. (presuming the election isn't a farce)
With the exception of a few systems where all laws are referendum voted, any changes that elected government makes are legitimate, even if they are awefull.

Rules for thee and not for me is hypocrisy not fascism...
It sounds like you are using fascism as an adjective because it is the most "that is bad" word you know, without any regard for the meaning. Trump can do plenty of terrible, evil things, each with their own titles and meanings without fascism being involved.

[Anonymous]

Good now let's add blm to the terrorist list. Blm at best is a violent fraud organization who does absolutely shit to help the black community. Instead using its funds to line their own pockets, fuck em both.

[slatyb]

When are we going to see accountability for the murders of protesters?

[blackeagle007]

It be nice to see proud boy members get that. Same with asshat oathkeepers. Complete jokers worshipping orange piece of shit

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I thought liberals claimed Antifa didn't exist...

[Cidknee]

Me get tingles from head to toe!

[Anonymous]

Whoever shot that cop in the neck, which I guarantee you he didn't survive, should get the death penalty.

[RavVid]

Good to see Antifa fascists get accountability

[purplepoppy]

Good, terrorism is never the answer.

[BCRanger10]

This is 100% a great thing!

[Zack-Bann]

No punishment is too small for these people

[ThisSiteSux]

They should be executed