What do Islamophobes think about Europeans who convert to Islam?

[MerakSahibi]

I assume, for the sake of the question, that you're not familiar with Bosniaks or similar native European Muslim communities.
And remember, Christianity also originated in the Middle East.

British Muslime

The great Swedish intellectuals

Icelandic Muslim

They're no longer one of us. They should be sent to the desert

As long as they're Muslims who adapt to our local European values, I don't have a problem with them

There's no real issue because they're white

[FindingCommonSense]

Old farts who still have daddy issues. ㅤ

[MerakSahibi]

He's an old man, but one whose hair and beard have turned gray through the pursuit of knowledge. He spent years in Cairo studying the Arabic language and Sufism.

[There_Is_Rehab]

I think he was talking about all of your examples. The woman and the other men too. Anyone older than 20s who still has daddy issues is an old fart.

[indissoluble]

Anyone that converts to Islam regardless of where they are from are illiterate and retarded. I know you can't read this because you are illiterate and retarded... Islam is a false religion that logically contradicts itself and tells you that when you have doubts about your religion to ask the Jews and Christians. If you ask the Jews and Christians they will show you scripture that proves Islam is false. So any person of average intelligence that can read, would read the religion of Islam and even if that wasn't enough to turn them away due to the horrible lack of morality in the religion, they would still notice the contradictions and have doubts, thus following the Quran's own commands have to talk to Jews and Christians to clear up their doubts which would lead to them not adopting Islam.

[FreyaRed]

If you want use Latin, Phobia means a fear, but it's Fastidium what means disgust.
It's Islamofastidium and people who convert to Islam are like people who want to take a bath in cesspool filled with pig excrements. You don't walk away from them because of fear, you walk away because they stink.

[MerakSahibi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z83k8gdtfNI

[There_Is_Rehab]

@MerakSahibi if a neat man in a suit dropped his backpack and ran, everyone would have panicked too. Plus the video excluded any calm reactions.

[Abbycado]

Why do you care so much? Like you are pushing your religion on people.

[MerakSahibi]

Islamophobia is often associated with racism because...

[loveslongnails]

Not sure I qualify as an Islamophobe, but I DO qualify as an overall "religion-o-phobe". Does that count? In that case, my answer is "I don't give a shit who converts to which religion. All I care about is that you don't try and inflict your beliefs on me in ANY way, legal or otherwise. Do your own thing and leave the rest of the world alone. I don't care.

[KostasKouvalis]

From MY experience and observations, the ones who convert are actually the MOST radical and think they know Islam better than people who have been practicing it their whole lives.

There was one on THIS website who raped his little brother and saw nothing wrong with it

[indissoluble]

That is standard Islam man… Muhammad got butt raped by his cousin. One place he admits it is in Al-Isabah fi Tamyiz al-Sahabah by Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani in volume 4 page 11. Muhammad’s cousins come Abu Sufyan and Abdullah and Muhammad will not meet with him because his cousin “violated his honor” (raped his butt hole). It is also mentioned in Majma' al-Zawa'id by Imam al-Tabarani in volume 8 page 11

https://lib.efatwa.ir/40173/4/11

As an orphan child Muhammad’s uncle Abu Talib use to command him to get naked and sleep in his bed. His uncle use to sniff him like Joe Biden and touch him and say I smell musk you know when he would sexually molest Muhammad.

An Muhammad was doing the same sort of things to little boys as well. He liked loved little boys that sat in his lap running their fingers through his beard. He would french kiss them.

https://sunnah.com/adab:1183

[indissoluble]

Muhammad was into men as well. In Majma’ al-Zawa’id volume 317 page 9 it talks about the relationship between Muhammad and Zahir how Muhammad would embrase him from behind and Zahir would press his back into the chest of Muhammad and Muhammad would call him his precious as they cuddled like gay lovers.

And obvious everyone knows about the story of the Al Zutt when Muhammad took countless black dongs in the desert filling his rectum with gallons of hot African semen all night long… All night… All night… All night long…. All night

That’s Islam dude, lots of butt rape and gay child molestation. Muhammad is the model of character. So if you’re not butt raping your cousins, molesting little boys, sniffing naked children like Joe Biden, or getting run through by large groups of Black men, then you’re not a good Muslim. Islam is LGBTQ+ all day, every day...

[indissoluble]

and there are far more stories than that about grabbing travelers off the road and anal raping them... The stories in Islam about butt raping dudes is extensive.

[Just_Ken]

Its usually women for their husband and then they have trouble leaving the marraige, the country or protecting their kids or losing custody in some medieval muslim country.

[MerakSahibi]

In the Sunni tradition, the woman doesn't have to become Muslim. One of my female cousins was going to marry a German man. The only condition was that he convert to Islam, and they now have a child together. In reality, you can never know what's in someone's heart—it's more of a cultural practice than anything else.

[Just_Ken]

Lol but she can't get away and the husband keeps her children.

[DonaldDarko]

Islamophobia is a made up communist word. Europeans who convert probably do so for a variety of reasons.

[MerakSahibi]

Communists are hostile to religion. A Tatar friend of mine once told me, "During the Soviet era, my grandmother used to go to school. If the teacher asked, 'Does anyone believe in God?' and you answered 'yes,' you'd get hit on the head with a ruler."

[DonaldDarko]

Communists also lie.

[MerakSahibi]

Even the most Islamophobic Westerners are only on the same level as the communists

[DonaldDarko]

In western countries communists back up Muslims at every turn. They invented the world "Islamophobia" . They made up words for other groups they want to pander to and use as well. Homophobia for homosexuals transphobia for men that think they are women. There are other baby talk phobia words too but less common.

[MerakSahibi]

It's hard to tell whether they're communists or simply a product of Western liberal individualism. Even if they are communists, the fact that they've gone from fighting for the working class to championing transgender activism shows just how far they've strayed from what communism originally claimed to stand for.
People like that also tend to champion whatever minority happens to exist where they live. One of my university professors used to write for Şalom (the Jewish newspaper in Turkey). Besides consistently defending Israel, he would often talk about the persecution suffered by Greeks.

[DonaldDarko]

It's Marxist class struggle ideology applied to any group they deem to be oppressed. It shifts consistently.

[jshm2]

Islamophobes will often be racists and bigots to boot. Hence their thoughts on any matter are often irrelevant.

It's like asking known thieves what they think of property laws

[Anonymous]

This is why a political philosopher named James Burnham called liberalism the ideology of Western suicide. You use liberal arguments to suggest if I oppose the spread of Islam to Europe, I am somehow bad and/or wrong. All of your answers suppose I am somehow xenophobic or racist if I oppose the spread of Islam. Therefore, as a good liberal, I should be passive as Islam spreads. Europe dies as a result of my adherence to liberalism, specifically its anti-xenophobic and anti-racist beliefs.

[MerakSahibi]

Europe was once pagan, then became Christian, and later experienced the Protestant Reformation and other religious movements. Why couldn't Islam be part of that historical process of transformation as well? Besides, these people aren't immigrants—they're white Europeans through and through.

[strateguy632]

phobia meens fear. they feel anxious which converts will obey the quren. to hurt them. most people do not really have a phobia just realize islam is wrong and harmful and bad and...

[demonics]

All I ask is that when the try to leave islam, they should keep their screams to a minimum volume due to the noise pollution.

[AngryCarl3]

I respect anyone's religious choices although I personally think it's all phoney baloney. Unless they become radicalized and dangerous to the community.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

😂 oh my

What about Christians converts in Muslim lands?

[MerakSahibi]

Whether you would actually accept them into your congregations is questionable, considering that there were even separate churches established for Black people
Besides, nearly half of Lebanon, around 10% of Egypt, and roughly 8% of Palestinians are already Christian, so they wouldn't exactly be entering unfamiliar territory

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Other than centuries of oppression and illegality throughout most of the Muslim world.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Your issue is trying to compare the modern Muslim world to the modern western world. It's two different things. You are attempting to push claims of prejudice on the societies that are by far the most open minded, empathetic, and least prejudiced. Do prejudiced individuals exist in the west? Certainly. However, Europe (unwisely) has allowed 10s of millions of Muslims into their lands, which has created significant problems such as the recent report in the UK, if over 250,000 sexual assaults. I actually saw the guy recently speak on Joe Rogan, and he admitted it was a conservative estimate. People are growing tired of the attempt to enforce cultural practices on them from outsiders.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

In the US, we have practiced a policy of surrendering to black positions for decades. Affirmative action (which is very prejudiced against whites and Asians) was practiced for decades. News media largely ignored and denied their crimes, and pushed claims of white supremacy. Yet, we know over 50%+ of all major crimes are committed by them, and the SPLC admitted black supremacist groups were the most common while trying to pay white supremacists to rally. We are tired of it. Tired of every black shooting being falsely reported by media for virtue sisignals. By trying to incite violence against white people (which is more than a dozen times higher than the reverse) because of some claim or oppression or past greviences.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

To be honest with you, suicidal empathy is an issue in the west to a degree its collapsing the culture. It's bad enough many can't agree what a female is, because of some sick sense of empathy towards those who have mental diseases. Even calling it such is enough to get you fired in some places. Imagine, being so sickly empathetic that any worldview (regardless of how dangerous) is viewed as legitimate. Parents ripped from children because they are trying to protect their children from schools grooming them to be lgbtq. Why? Because it's argued not accepting a child's perspective is abuse. It's suicidal empathy. It's incorporated on legal level that assumes a black boy killing a white boy (like the Karmelo Anthony case) has some sort of justification. Many protest it (including whites) because of some sick sense that crimes against white are necessary

[FrodoSkywalker007]

So please spare me. Many of us are tired and burned out. You are likely going to get replies you seek, because many are tired of suicidal empathy. They seek a return to common sense.

[MerakSahibi]

It's true that Black people are statistically overrepresented in certain types of crime. Someone I know who lives in the United States once told me that police officers are more likely to shoot if the suspect is Black, and he said it in a way that supported the police. His point was that, where we live, even the most violent offenders often remain free.

Black Americans gained their freedom much later and started from a significant historical disadvantage. The argument is that, when they were suddenly incorporated into the system despite those disadvantages, crime rates within that community ended up being relatively high.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Sadly true. It doesn't help the culture enforces their attitudes. Now we more or less have a culture and race war on our hands. Not long ago race relations were relatively friendly and colorblindness was the rule. Now Marxist principles rule the day and race is central to identity.

[FindingCommonSense]

"Suicidal empathy" no such thing. It's not empathy. It is pathetic cope with school induced trauma. A trauma fawn response. 99% of the world are trauma-based-mind-controlled sadomasochists. West are masochists and Muslims are sadists and there is zero exaggeration in that. Pathetic mommy issues and daddy issues. Not one ounce a joke.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

@FindingCommonSense 😂 😂 call it what you want. Either way it's a problem.

[Anonymous]

Wow

Internet sure does show the true face of everyone with this much hate.

I have a question to you all.

What will you do if your teenage son converts to Islam?

[Snakeyes7]

They are either doing it because they don't want to die, or they're stupid.

[canamlusciouslad73]

Who cares what those a**holes think?

[Smegskull]

I think it's a stunt.
Also which denomination?

[fishbone77]

Suicidal empathy.