They are not voting for communism. They are voting for a raise. Did you know - ?

[Anonymous]

Donald Trump’s pathetic bleats notwithstanding, people voting for progressive Democrats and “democratic socialists” aren’t voting for communism or even socialism; they’re trying to get America to the same sort of economy and form of government that works for everybody — a system somewhat like the one a majority of us had before Reaganism —that most other developed countries enjoy right now.

https://hartmannreport.com/p/theyre-not-voting-for-karl-marx-theyre-3ed?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

I don't care, and I would never want things to be equal or easy. That's communism.

It's time things changed.

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If a monkey hoarded more bananas than it could eat while most of the other monkeys starved, scientists would study that monkey to figure out what was wrong with it. When humans do it, we put them on the cover of Forbes

[loveslongnails]

While this is directed at the well-know anonymous Trump/P-2025 supporter below, it serves as my commentary as well, so I'll put it here.

Dude, you're disastrously ill-informed. Western Europe is not collapsing, they have issues like anyone else. If ANY country is collapsing, it's the United States, but you're far too brainwashed to see it. Every POSSIBLE economic metric in the US is on fire now, and it's heading for a real depression.

The US has championed income disparity to the point where it's #1 in the world among G7 nations, and #2 in the world among ALL nations. Let that sink it, Mr. Capitalist run amok. Let it also sink in that:
* The top 1% of households in the US control a full 32% of ALL household wealth.
(Try and really think about what that means)
* The top 3% combined control 70% of the wealth in the USA. 70 per cent !!!

Yet, there you sit fear-mongering about an economic system (Communism) that has never really been in place except by name only, while the system you love so damn much grifts you and millions of citizens every single day.

Radical left, radical right, yada, yada, yada. This is about a caste system masquerading behind trigger words, built on economic concepts that don't apply to you and I. If you don't recognize what's goin on here, then you and your offspring will continue to be both cannon fodder and a source of amusement to those holding your purse strings. Even with that recognition, how to we stop it while those of who don't see it blindly cheer it along?

[Chazmatazz269]

They’re voting for a different brand on the same oppression. You didn’t make the most of your educational opportunities, but you can make up for it now. Cite ANY large scale socialist or communist societies that created the utopia you’ve been sold on.
Look at literally EVERY democrat stronghold in the US. Their “progressive” policies have always failed and they continue to fail. California supposed to be the bastion of progressive values. Run exclusively by leftists for generations, California still has out of control crime, poverty, homelessness, housing prices, failing infrastructure, drug addiction, etc. In metrics where they’re not leading the country, they’re still well above the national averages. And you think trusting their radical cousins is the solution? Again, i challenge you to point to ANY large scale socialist or communist society that resulted in your utopian dreams come true.

[Anonymous]

But that makes it harder for them to scream about how radical leftists are. Donald Trump loves the poorly educated. He wants them to stay that way!

[itss_lily]

if we ask that government do part of its job and help people, conservatives scream "CoMMuniSm" or "SociALisM" and never explain why its terrible

[Asker]

They have been victimized by literally years of indoctrination by the US government and business interests. They routinely conflate, fascism and communism and of course the two things are completely separate. Try telling an indoctrinated capitalist that and see how far you get. He will cover his ears and keep screaming. Communism communism communism. Hear no evil, see no evil speak. No evil.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

@itss_lily

Because our views on the purpose of government is different. The constitution does say the government has the power to collect taxes for the defense and general welfare of the country.

Now, what constitutes general welfare? What constitutes defense? These are things conservatives and socialists disagree on.

Conservatives..."You don't need the GUCCI bag"

Socialists..."But it makes me feel good"

[Asker]

Yeah conservatives: you really need the Gucci tank and the Gucci fighter jet. Don't worry about eating.

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Conservatives..."you won't need to worry about eating if we lose the war... cause we'll be dead"

[Asker]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit you have already lost the war, and you won't admit it. You never should have started the war in the first place, and you won't admit that either.

[Asker]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit you're right. The greatest military on the planet has lost every single war since World War II. Let's not consider that also. It fights with the most expensive military equipment available, paid for by the taxpayers of the United States.

Additionally, you need to shut your fucking mouth and stop calling people cowards just because they disagree with you.

[Asker]

@Ariesman81Nshiiit fuck you.

[Snakeyes7]

Tell that to the people who fled the Soviet Union, China, North Korea or Cuba. They'll gladly tell you why communism is dogshit.

[itss_lily]

@Snakeyes7 the people fleeing those places mention censorship and lack of democracy. im not saying communism is great but you're conflating communism with authoritarian regimes and dictatorships

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

@itss_lily

We're not conflating. You simply can't have one without the other.

[Asker]

@Snakeyes7 you are once again conflating economic systems with political systems. Communism is actually a political system and not a good one. Socialism, on the other hand, is a political system as well, but a good one.

[Snakeyes7]

Communism IS a type of authoritarian regime just like Nazism and Fascism. It always ends up in tyranny because it cannot survive unless everyone operates it at the threat being thrown in a gulag or being executed. It never works and it should be obvious that it never works because in order to achieve an authoritarian regime, the state needs the power to control everything, and when you give them an inch, they will always take more.

[Snakeyes7]

@socialism is just a nicer way of saying authoritarian regime. All socialists want is more and more state power because they think you are stupid enough to believe that the state will do good things with that power.

[Snakeyes7]

First @itss_lily second is @asker

[Asker]

Since you are not a socialist yourself, how would you know what we think or don't think @Snakeyes7

[Ariesman81Nshiiit]

Delete this one too

[strateguy632]

In contrast to section 7 keeps ownership. So democrats are commies. 2, About update The rich did not "hoard" gather. he sold services.

[Asker]

At least you and I differ about what communism really is.

[Asker]

Don't give a shit if slum landlords lose their buildings.

[strateguy632]

Maybe your communism is utopia but democrats are doing communist china stuff.

[Asker]

You have absolutely no knowledge as to what communism really is. You certainly have no knowledge as to what goes on in China.

[strateguy632]

i do NOT know your interpretation of communism. i do know democrats are already doing the bad stuff that communist china did in past. i do not know the dark secrets NOW as you wrote "what goes on in China."

[Asker]

What bad stuff are Democrats doing that Communist China did in the past, given your intimate knowledge of Communist China? How long did you live there, by the way?

[Just_Ken]

Agreed. If it worked well in Venezuela, cuba, soviet union, Warsaw pact etc why not America

[canamlusciouslad73]

NOBODY wants Communism save a few nonagenarians who remember Stalin and the lads (if they don't have dementia);Democratic Socialism is about attempting to level the egregiously unbalanced playing field between the overlords and the 99.9999%

[exitseven]

The welfare class are indeed voting for a raise. People with jobs are nor voting for this.

[Chazmatazz269]

Look closer

[Asker]

You could be a person without a job, just like the rest of us could be. Who will you vote for when that happens to you?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

The DSA is openly communist