Is the US just bullying Iran to force it to change?

[Anonymous]

I like Iran

Why not let it be?

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Hopefully China and Russia ensure ordinary people in Iran don't suffer from lack of food

[jahaims]

The US bullies the whole world. Whatever world power is in control bullies. Open a history book.

[Asker]

Exactly

Back in 1953 UK and USA
Toppled the Iran regime
Been a disaster ever since

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Actually, who was Shah from 1941 to 1979?
Who had the power to elect and remove the PM in accordance to the Iranian constitution of 1903, article 46?
Who used his powers to remove parliament?
🤔

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Knowing history helps ☺ not just the leftist talking points that seem so common.

Just looking into Mohammad Reza Pahlavi's regime disproves this idea of regime change 😂

[Asker]

US interfered
CIA involvement was revealed
It's common knowledge

And look at Trump trying to bully Canada too

[Asker]

This is what AI Google says:

In the early 1950s, the U. S. and Britain intervened in Iran after Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddeq nationalized the British-run oil industry in 1951

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Of course.
However, as always you people ignore important aspects (feel free to check).
1. The Shah was already in power (and his father before him).
2. It was the Shahs right to elect and remove the PM.
3. Mossadegh was not democratically elected, and actually became a dictator that used militant forces to assassinate opponents (such as Faidayan-e Islam), he dismantled parliament, prevent vote counts, restricted the press, took over the military. This is the man you champion
4. There is much disagreement on how effective the CIA was. The initial coup failed. There was a second coup, that many argue was purely organic.

Study history 🤷‍♂️

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Regardless, see how you've already changed positions? Now it's not toppling a regime, but interfering 😂

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Furthermore, if China built an entire industry in the USA, and it made up the majority of the US economy
Then, US leadership tried to take it over, and lay complete claim to it, and remove Chinese influence, I doubt you'd support the US.
The consortium of 1954 gave 50% ownership, and the Shah nationalized the industry in 1973. 🤷‍♂️

[Asker]

US is interfering

[FrodoSkywalker007]

😂 😂 😂 😂
How quickly you change when confronted with real history

[Asker]

Today USA tomorrow China
😂😂😂😂

I didn't change anything. I said from the start USA is bullying
We both agree USA is interfering
An interfering bully
Bullying Canada as well
My point is you agree with me
😂😂😂😂

[Asker]

Everything you say
Sounds to me like your agreeing

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I'm correcting your historical inaccuracies.
Never gave a position on "bullying'
I however gave a position on the validity of the war within my own answer.

You are reaching because of me debunking your historical claims 🤷‍♂️

[Asker]

Like I said already
All your detailed answers proves
Is what I'm saying, USA is overstepping a appropriate boundary in relation to Iran (bullying) and now it's reaping the return, a country that hates USA and USA is being forced to double down and bully this peaceful country
Mainly because USA created an enemy with it's interfering starting in 1951

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Yet, I debunked every aspect of that.
1. Explaining the history if your claimed regime change
And
2. Showing the validity of military action.

I see nothing that you've gotten right.
You even changed your argument from regime change to interference 🤷‍♂️

Your desperate to get something out if this 😂

[Asker]

Did I mention regime change?
You must be getting your conversations mixed up
USA is now bullying Canada

USA applying economic warfare = starving Iran to get what they want

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Look at top of this thread
"Toppled the Iran regime"
🤷‍♂️

[Asker]

That's back in 1953
That's straight from Wikipedia
🤷

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Wikipedia 😂
You already admitted I was right and changed to "interfered"
Keep reaching

[Asker]

Internet search
"AI Overview +4 The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, orchestrated by the United States and the United Kingdom, overthrew Iran's democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh"

There it is
And I'm just saying USA is a bully under Trump
There is no denying

[FrodoSkywalker007]

How was he democratically elected?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I'm going to blow your mind 😂
You will see how AI doesn't work, and also how the narrative falls apart.

How was Mossadegh democratically elected? 😂

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Well, did you look it up yet? You might be surprised 😂

[Asker]

How He Came to PowerElected to Parliament: Mossadegh was a long-serving member of the Iranian parliament (the Majlis). Nominated as Prime Minister: In 1951, the Majlis voted to nominate Mossadegh for the position of Prime Minister. Approved by the Shah: Per Iran's constitutional framework at the time, the Shah then formally appointed him.

By the way you admit you don't disagree about bullying🙂
So what's the problem?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Thank you!
So he wasn't democratically elected 😂
AND the Shah approved and appointed him 😂
What do you know? Strange!!

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Looks like the initial AI search was wrong 🤷‍♂️

[Alex-Snow]

They some some weird leadership and the leadership in the USA is even worse

[Anonymous]

I agree fully.

[strateguy632]

Like let it be -iran firing at CIVILIAN ships same as houthi terrorists in 2024. Even BIDEN -d made war for that.

[strateguy632]

We used negotiation and made a cease fire so u. s. is not bully. Only due to iran firing at CIVILIAN ships things got worse and war.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Iran has been attacking the US for decades.

From 2023 to 2024 alone, there were 180 attacks on US assets by Iran.

[FrodoSkywalker007]

You support a terrorist regime that butchers its own people
Seems you need therapy 🤷‍♂️

[Asker]

I'm not American
We can have independent thoughts
Only you guys are forced to toe the party line
If you agree with anything Trump says, God help you 🙂

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I'm not a Trump supporter, nor a leftist.
Merely interested in facts.
gamaan.org/.../
gamaan.org/.../

Iranian positions on the war and regime change

www.fdd.org/.../
Short list of Iran regime attacks on US.

www.history.com/.../7-historical-fights-over-strait-of-hormuz
Short history of attacks on hormuz

[exitseven]

Yes, they want them to stop being terrorists.