I have seen WorldCup finals for the last 30yrs (7 in total) Every country who won it the previous 6 finals, they were deserved winners, they never cheated or bullied the ref at all. The ref didn't give bias decisions to them (Brazil 1994 2002, France 1998, Italy 2006, Spain 2010, Germany 2014).
The first french goal: Griezmann dived to win a freekick, the freekick was converted by a header from Pogba who was offside! The linesman missed it, but we've had so many of these marginal decisions go to VAR throughout the tournament.. but why not this one? Simply put, Bias.
The second french goal: The Croatian player moved his hand down to avoid handball, it was clearly hand to ball which is not a penalty. The referee knew this and gave a goalkick, but the French players hounded him, bullied him, he went to VAR. He looked at VAR for a very long time, he even ran back to VAR again unsure of the decision. The rules state that if in serious doubt the decision should be awarded to the defending team... the ref was bias yet again! He awarded the penalty.
The referee threw the game.
Why in this WC final were the referees bias to France and easily bullied into decisions? Simply put... Michel Platini is french, and governed FIFA for so long and he was even investigated for corruption. After the investigation was completed, he was told to resign and leave (the man was proven to be corrupt). He was forcibly removed after repeated refusals to leave.
This World Cup final is a great shame, the deserved winners were Croatia! Congratulations Croatia for your bravery and I can only apologise as a fan of the world for the injustice.
Yes - Croatia deserved to win it and the French had a bias referee.
No - the french didn't cheat, Griezmann didn't dive and it was a handball
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I must point out other things that occurred which I missed. A collective of french fans ran onto the pitch during a significant counter-attack by Croatia, never seen in a WC final before, where was the security? The ref stopped Croatia from mounting an attack 4 croatians on 3 french defenders, the croatian was behind the defense ready to cross it in when the ref blew his whistle to have the freekick retaken, he pointed to his whistle like its his call whether a freekick should be taken quickly
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The quick freekick happened on the halfway line, never seen before that freekicks from there are told to be retaken. Only on the edge of the box when a freekick requires a wall and the ref to organise it. Even then a quick freekick can be taken within 10seconds of it being placed down.
Are France the most undeserved team to win the WorldCup?
jeezus they are the best team in the world. they were the top team coming in. they took a rather tough road to the final. they are far from the only team in the tournament (including croatia) to benefit from some referee calls.
The referee made some poor decisions which unfortunately went against Croatia. Having said that, it's absurd to say that France were the least deserving winners in the history of the competition. How would you even know?
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In 1998, France won off a serious illness to Brazilian Ronaldo caused by potential food poisoning. The Brazilian's team mood was killed, they couldnt play properly because Ronaldo was forced to play by Nike and they were all thinking of him as a humanbeing. in 2009, France qualified for the Worldcup off a deliberate handball that went unpunished. in 2016 Eurofinal, France deliberately injured Cristiano Ronaldo, such cowardly act. in 2018, France win off a dive and as you put it 'poor decisions' but i call the referee bias as there were some clearly ridiculous decisions made by the ref especially his 'play to the whistle' rubbish qhwn taking a quick free kick on the halfway line that had Croatia behind the french defense. Between 2000-and 2018, Sep Blatter and Michel Platini (french) were investigated for corruption and banned. The facts are there to understand, have they ever won a competition without some form of controversy? I'd like to know
They're the one who deserved it the most, they had to beat the strongest team while Croatia didn't have to. France beat Argentina, Uruguay, Belgium, etc... They were the strongest team and they beat them.
Why do you hate French team so much?
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i dont hate them, i hate cheating and bias. It damaged your glory.
I won't show you the Griezmann dive but here is a review of the decisions by a danish football legend who gave an unbias opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AdSRGMuwDc
okay... you're french tho alice and you didn't watch it as a neutral like i did, you wanted france to win, i wanted a fair game and the WC final to be won deservedly.
It was a fair game and it was won deservedly. You really need glasses seriously. Croatia were just not good enough to win. Too their second goal weren't really fair but I don't see you going around about it. I don't see you either saying anything about how England played unfairly all WC. There's also Neymar, trying to cheat all the time. Mexican cheated too, etc...
Just because other teams cheat doesn't mean France had too, thats why they are unworthy alice. There 2nd goal, how is it unfair? The goalkeeper was tackled.. jeez.
You seriously have a problem with France, They didn't cheat AT ALL ! Croatia just played bad at this finals.
It was unfair and morally wrong to do something like that, this shouldn't have count. If you think France played unfairly then this is definitely much much more worse.
Wrong is when a goalkeeper tries to kick a ball from his hand and a player steals it from them. The ball was on the floor between his two feet, there had been a pass back to the goalkeeper, he can't pick the ball up, France were playing from the back and kept passing it back to the keeper lol i dont understand your point here, are Croatia just supposed to wait for him to pass it back to the defense and hope they dont kick it back to him again? jeez.
But they didn't cheat and even without this penalty France would have won so I do not understand all this cheating nonsense. In my country everyone and all commentator were all saying that Croatian cheated and this definitely deserved a penalty.
Griezmann did dive but Pogba didn't head the ball into the net, it was a Mandzukic own goal. It came off HIS head.
The second goal I would have given the penalty too.
The third and fourth goals still count and Croatia would still have lost.
I'm an England fan so I didn't care who wins, but France deserved it because they won it. You don't win the World Cup without deserving it. No single incident or even two incidents are enough to win the World Cup. Croatia had 90 minutes to win it, they didn't. They could have scored 10 goals and then no refereeing decisions would have mattered. It was up to them to go and win it and they didn't.
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slight misunderstanding, i mean to put 'from a header when Pogba was offside' you can't tell me he didn't influence the Own goal. You may not care because England are out, I am also an England fan, but I have never felt so strongly about bias in the World Cup final until now. Before the penalty decision, it was 1-1, everything after that is a consequence of the penalty decision.. the croatians at 1-1 would not be on the backfoot committing players forward. The fact that you dont care is quite obvious in your lazy comment.
To suggest that everything is a consequence of one decision is to remove the onus from Croatia to go and win the game. Football games are 90 minutes long before you even get to extra time. If you leave it close enough for bad decisions to affect the outcome then it's on you. That is what happens in tight games. Everyone knows this. They were still more than in the game at 2-1 and could have equalised. They didn't. The third and fourth goals buried them. That's on them too. They were not helpess victims.
oh really? i forgot to point out French fans ran onto the pitch in a significant counter attack that stopped the play. Also the croatians took a quick freekick and were away 4 croatians on 3 french, the player with the ball was in the box ready to pass it in but the ref called play back to wait for his whistle. He was bias again! You are allowed to take a freekick quickly, it was around the centre of the field! Explain?
The pitch invaders weren't French fans, they were Russian anti-Kremlin protestors affiliated with the Pussy Riot punk band.
As for quick free kicks, you are only allowed to take a quick free kick if the referee indicates that you can. You can't make the decision for yourself.
@hasrett Lol, just calling it how it is. I wanted Croatia to win but whoever wins it deserves it. It's too long a tournament to put it down to luck. Croatia had a great tournament, nothing to be ashamed of.
Yes, unfortunately I missed both Mandžukić's autogoal and the penalty, but the other two goals were really good so I can't complain. I'm really proud that Croatia got to the finals though, I'd never expect it in a million years.
Are you really challenging me? haha you are so anti-croatia because they knocked us out of the WC. I have been a Liverpool County FA referee for 6yrs, i know what bias is and what isn't. The referees of this tournament never made a team retake a quick freekick that wasn't outside the opposition box. Anti-cremlin fans, please. You seem to have excuses for everything.
I'm not challenging you, no. I'm just expressing a different opinion. This isn't an ego contest. I respect your views, I just don't agree with them. This is just two different opinions. Not a big deal. Football divides opinions.
The anti-Kremlin protestors (not fans) have been verified in the media already and Pussy Riot have claimed responsibility for them. Did you notice that the pitch invaders were wearing specific uniforms? That's not even in debate. It's not an excuse, it's a fact.
Don't take this so personally. It's just football.
They coincidentally chose to invade the picture in a significant situation involving a Croatian counter-attack.. yea sure, Russia are to blame for everything. I dont agree, it was the french.
It doesn't matter if you agree or not, it's been established. You can't just deny the facts based on how you feel. Seriously, we have to remain rational at least.
Anyway, as I said, I'm happy to agree to disagree about the game itself. I don't claim to be objectively 'right', I just have my opinion on the match.
emotional? no thats you. you're so wound up by the defeat to Croatia. I told you all the facts of the bias and cheating and you still disagree, it means you are a troll.
I'm not wound up by the defeat at all, Croatia deserved to win against England. I have zero problems with that and I was rooting for Croatia to win. I just accept that France won and I don't agree that they don't deserve it. You're the one trying to make this into an argument, I'm just having a discussion. It doesn't matter to me that much.
1) The first goal wasn't offside because it was an own goal. 2) it was a penalty because his hand was too far away from his body and it went downwards with the ball. I would agree it wasn't intentional , but it was a clear penalty.
France was clearly lucky today. But it wasn't the fault of the refs.
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thats why you think its not an offside. The rules state 'If a player interferes with play and is an offside position, its offside" Just because its an own goal, doesn't detract from the fact that the defender was forced into this decision by Pogba's influence. The croatian defender moved his hands down naturally to avoid handball, he didn't know. The ref's instant judgement was the correct one, the french bullied him to use VAR, even then he was not sure, he looked at VAR twice! How is a clear penalty so difficult to judge? yea..
Pogba didn't influence the player to score the own goal, they were all together in the penalty area.
His hand was a foot away from his body. That's a clear penalty.
So the penalty that Russia got when pique handle the ball wasn't a penalty to? He didn't see the ball because it was struck behind him , yet a penalty was given.
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