Should we protect Ukraine from Russia?
That's not an evasion. The Ukrainians applied for NATO membership in 2008 and were rejected. They rightly feared Russian invasion, as was shown in 2014, and in response did... what, exactly? Beefed up their military and started building defensive fortifications? Assembled an alliance of Russia's other neighbors, to dissuade them from war? Restarted their nuclear program? No- they kept trying to get the NATO strongman to promise to shield them, long after it became clear that wasn't going to happen, long after it became clear that *didn't* work.
The fear of MTF transsexuals taking over women's sports was bandied about YEARS ago, and possibly decades. I didn't pay much attention; I don't really care about sports. But the outcry was shouted down; either with "you're just a bigot" (the current rallying cry), or "There won't be enough people willing to undergo major, life-altering surgery just to set a record to make a real difference" (which was what I said, though I didn't shout at anyone; it's hard to shout your apathy). I was wrong, I admit, but where were the defenders of women's sports back then? More to the point, where were the female athletes themselves? If they lacked the guts to defend themselves, why should others step in to protect them now? Women aren't defenseless children or unable to think for themselves; if they won't protect their own sports, why should the rest of us get involved?
Women created this problem so women can fix it. They were the stupid bleeding hearts that supported LGBT. It trickled down and now look at what we got. Same with the Muslim refugees, they welcomed them in then they got raped. Why do men always gotta fix their f*ck ups? It's equal out here now. Time to let women fight their own battles. If they want insurance to not get raped by a select few asshats get a boyfriend that can protect you and/or get a gun and learn to use it. If you wanna kill your babies go get a clothing hanger and have at it. If you wanna date assholes that beat you or deal drugs then go for it. If you want to have sex like prostitutes and never expect to get married have fun. If you wanna have equal rights be ready for equal lefts. That's what they were asking for, now they got it. They nuked the family unit, let them pick up the pieces. I'll just be brutally honest here. If you're a woman who is not spending her days finding cures to deadly diseases or inventing useful products and you are fertile and not having kids you're a waste of potential. Sorry, not sorry. Women in sports is a waste. It doesn't bring in the views, revenue, or contribute to society.
I think y'all really could careless.
As a female athlete you know how many people outside of other female athletes asked me if i am okay with competing with biological males? 0
Nobody ever cared about female sports until a group of people hated by them tried to compete.
Why does nobody ask the people who would have to compete against them how they feel?
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Women's sports should be protected. Only biological women ( females) should compete in women's sports.
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It all depends on when the transsexual started taking estrogen. Today I was talking to a friend who works in a urology department in one of the major Italian hospitals. In that department, they deal with urogenital reconstructive surgery and transitional hormonal therapies, among other things.
Comparing a male athlete to a female athlete makes no sense. The man has testosterone which the woman does not have. Comparing a man taking testosterone inhibitors to a woman makes sense. He said that in sports the decline in performance that a man undergoing hormonal therapies has is very high, much higher than that of a normal woman and extremely higher than that of a female athlete.
Going back to the opening sentence, it all depends on when he started taking estrogen to become a woman. If he started prepubertal he has an almost completely feminine physique, similarly starting in adolescence both have similar effects. If the subject begins after age 20, the effects are minor, but the decline in performance is significant. If therapy begins beyond the age of 30, an absence of significant decline in performance begins to be seen.
Cases like that of Lia Thomas that when her levels of male hormones were high she had to compete with men and she was therefore poor competing with females becomes a champion. The underlying problem is that in cases like that of LT, hormone levels are measured, but normally no, hormone levels should be measured at all and equalized for those levels.
As much as I'm all for equality.. this is a big NO from me!
ONLY biological women must be allowed to compete in women's sports. Trans women are biologically male. They would have an unfair advantage when competing against biological women. It's not about "protecting", it's more so about being fair.
It's only a matter of time before various sports bodies clamp down. I can see a country like Russia sticking a load of guys in dresses just to win more medals in the Olympic s
I think its a tossup as to whether or not this is important. So I'd be fine with just going ahead and banning trans people from playing women's sports for now while we sort out how to stop the bullying of trans people. The problem is any time you propose that people will go ape shit trying to keep the conversation about sports. And when people can't take yes for an answer it usually means they aren't being honest about their intentions. So, usually, people who pretend to care about the sports things really just want the bullying of trans people to continue. Frankly, because I detest bullies, this tells me trans people playing women's sports is probably actually just fine. Which is the sole reason it is a tossup, to me.
Okay I would just like it to be known that there have been cases where men have just shoved women and have killed them in doing so and sure female athletes are athletes and so while they are not likely to die from getting shoved they're also dealing with genetically male athletes so yeah there is actually likelihood someone's going to die
So unless you don't mind women dying because they play sports there should definitely be some rules about that
I mean, if women want to be able to compete in sports, it would seem pretty important to remove biological men, no? Otherwise we could just do away with the two sex sport system and have one group for everyone. And the result would of course be that you'd see virtually no women at all -- real or tranny -- able to compete at an elite level.
Either way it’s a lose lose situation.
of course I would want trans athletes to compete and be on the team of their preferred gender, I would never want anyone to feel excluded.
but transgender women will always have an advantage over biological women so it’s not completely fair. Even on hormones, their muscle mass and testosterone will decrease but will still be above that of an average woman.
I think the best thing to do is have a separate trans team
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I have nothing against trans people, but biology is biology and no amount of hormones can change that. You can't bring down a whole group of people just to please the feeling of a few. Trans people need their own league just like physically/mentally disabled people have special Olympics. To all those who think hormones makes a transwoman the same as a bio woman physically, care to explain why you always see transwomen competing in women's sports but almost never see transmen in men's sports.
People buy guard dogs to protect their lives and their property from bandits; #MeToo laws are in theory to protect women from rapists; there are laws in place to protect children from paedophiles; and women's sports need laws to protect them from the impostors and frauds that call themselves "transwomen".
Bigger question is WHO even allowed this stupidity in the first place? Why listen for ideas from low IQ mentally challanged people?
Its insult to human intelligence to let this even play out like that. Goverment shame on you.
"Don't be so open minded that your brain falls out" is basically the best advice for the times we're living in now 🙄
Humans need reachable goals to strive towards, Women can't compete against biological men, it's just not fair. Breaking Women's spirit isn't good for anyone.
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As these women are the stupid woke in the world, I kind of like watching "girls" with pee pees crush them.
Other that a few news items, I have never seen. Therefore, it can't be much of a problem. If it because a big problem where trans are regularly competing and defeating women, the rules will be changed.
Minds will sway when some country in Olympics stacks a women's sport box with cisgender men to win the gold. You can just see it coming.
Women's sports should be protected. Only biological women ( females) should compete in women's sports.
Male athletes should compete with other male athletes. Female athletes should compete with other female athletes. End of story. That this is even a debate is mind blowing.
To every woman who's said "yes", I only have one question. Why all the hate? Because she identifies as a woman you have to be against her why are you so petty? Women are equal to men right? Then where's the problem? I think it's quite clear some of you have a double standard.
It is not fair and they guys that do this should be shamed of themselves.
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