How can people actually think LeBron isn’t top 2 of all time?

[Jakartheg]

People who call LeBron a “longevity merchant” need to remember that peak for peak (how good u are at ur very best) LeBron still is arguably better than Jordan and at the very least extremely close to him (LeBron and Jordan peak far higher than anyone else) in terms of prime LeBron has easily the greatest prime ever and for longevity it’s simply just maintaining yourself for a long stretch of time.

the only reason I can really think of is “rings” but people should be able to understand something as simple as team sport

[AviatorTom]

LeBron is very good, but you have to compare the NBA today with what it was years ago. In the 1960s, there were fewer teams, and no 3-point shot, and overall talent per team was higher, compared to today and the huge number of teams in the league.

Comparing LeBron to players like Havlicek, Russell, Chamberlain, Maravich, Bird, Jabbar is like trying to compare a Tesla with a 58 Chevy. They're different. All you can do is say they were all great players, and don't try to rank them.

[Jakartheg]

I mean you can compare players relative to era

[AviatorTom]

@Jakartheg That's my point. If you compare by era, you're not determining all-time ranking.

[Jakartheg]

I mean it’s about how good you were relative to your era and to compare players across eras find out who was more impactful relative to their era and the one which one a higher impact Relative to era ranks higher all time

[Jakartheg]

Ur right to say that comparing guys in a vacuum without accounting for era doesn’t make sense. people tailor to game to the play styles and the and understanding of the game at that point in time also like u mentioned rule changes such as the addition of the three point line for example also change the way the game is approached however if u judge based off how good they were relative to era it paints a picture of how much of an impact you were able to make to the game within ur certain eras understanding/playstyle and rules of the era.

[Bricealan]

@Jakartheg The whole argument is just bizarre. If I were 7 feet tall and weighed 300 lbs, I would be doing what these Neanderthal men do

Lou Alcindor -Alias (Kareem Abdul Jabbar- another biological freak- was thought to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. WTF?

How much 'talent' do you need to have?

[Jakartheg]

Not exactly, just being tall just nessicary mean ur gonna be great especially at Kareem or shaq level. For example, if ur just tall (let’s say 7’3ft) and ur strong but u lack traits outside of physical abilities you’ll already be limited to just being an inefficient post up player with no off ball value and without the ability to space the floor u will in turn end up clogging lanes. Furthermore, even in the post won't be able to get good positioning due to ur lack of off ball abilities and when u catch the ball and u won’t be able to use footwork to fake someone out in the post and will have to be reliant on brute force every time which often leads to forced low quality shots (even shaq was great at positioning himself in the low post and being able to use his footwork to help get him buckets). as a finisher you’d abe limited as well making you an extremely inefficient as you’d lack the soft touch to finish over bigs and the daily to be able to absorb contact while still being able to get off a good shot. So offensively wise you’d just black hole who isn’t a good scoring threat and can’t create plays not only not being able to be effective urself but you’d make it harder for your teammates to dominate as well. And that’s only offensively speaking defensively you’d be lose any benefit you’d possibly have when u got switched out of the post and just become a liability and as an interior defender you’d struggle as well you’d be pretty easy to get positioning on and any capable big with a good finish would torch you. On top of that you wouldn’t be able to read and understand plays leaving you to be late on rotations not know how to play the passing lanes for some examples and you’d lack as a communicator due to not understanding plays (there’s more ways u would be a detriment on defence to ur team but I don’t really feel like going into it now)

[Bricealan]

@Jakartheg Thanks for your comments and the MHO... as I do know you understand my point of view.. I played basketball as an amateur, at my work place and in pick up games out side of work on my lunch hour and do know the game... I played as a shooting guard, and at times as a point guard. and I think the best part of my game was defense, playing as a 'rover' in a 'box n one' defense. I know you must play basketball too... thanks for your comments.

[AI Opinion]

LeBron's greatness often sparks debates. His versatility, athleticism, and basketball IQ are remarkable, making him a dominant force on the court. He's had an impressive prime and maintained a high level of performance over the years. Basketball is a team sport, and while championships are important, they don't solely define a player's greatness. LeBron's contributions extend beyond stats and rings, including his impact on the game and inspiration to young athletes. 🏀

[seeyounexttuesday]

Lebron is a flopping bitch. He will never be better than Jordan.

[EmmaMary]

Just who the fuck is LeBron?

[Jakartheg]

One of the most recognizable people in human history…. Are you trying to raige bait?

[EmmaMary]

None whatsoever... Just asking.

[NathanDavis]

because he chokes... and keeps choking

[SarahP080106]

LeBron is a joke

[Jakartheg]

How so?