Why don’t we see bicep and arm chop attacks used in UFC and MMA?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

There are ways of winning a fight which are technically still legal in MMA, which are never seen in MMA, either because the fighters don't know them, or they are incompetent.

One of them is a "double chop block" to the arm following an opponent's hook punch, really what matters is hit them dead center of their biceps with a traditional karate chop. I've had this technique used against me in sparring, and it deadens your arm for a good 5 to 10 seconds.

I was just watching Ip Man 2, which I had never seen the fight with the boxer, and Donnie Yen choreographed that fight correctly. He beat the western boxer by attacking his biceps with chops and elbow strikes until th e boxer couldn't lift his arms anymore, and he also hit him in the ears several times to disrupt his balance.

this would work in MMA, and I know, because I've been on both ends of this fighting technique before. Why nobody uses this sort of technique in MMA is just really making me wonder now.

Basically you play "counter-punch" with the other guy. Every time they jab, you chop down on the forearm with a chop. Every time they hook, you make entry and chop, full power, dead center of the biceps until they can't lift their arms anymore. Once their arms are weak, you can take them out pretty easily.

This goes back to one of the sparring matches I lost against a 2nd Dan okinawan black belt, when he did just exactly that to me. I was a 2nd degree brown belt/2nd kyu at the time, so he was 3 belts above me at the time, but the point is the technique worked, and I had to wave him off of me and surrender, because he was about to pound my face in after that.

[Just_Ken]

Leaves you open to getting knocked out. Learned that in boxing and sambo. Leave yourself open and you get knocked out. A lot of martial arts techniques in MMA boils down to what work and what doesn't work.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I've actually checked the specific rules, and chop blocking the wrist is actually banned under the joint manipulation ban. Chop blocking the biceps is not banned, and SHOULD be done whenever possible.

I trained for military combat and street self defense, where there are no rules and you need to win a fight in 10 seconds or less.

i'm actually not interested in training for a show match that has over 100 banned techniques. That's not martial arts, it's something else. Pro fighters don't evevn know real martial arts.

The other day, Kayla Harrison, a 135 to 145lbs Judo black belt woman, tapped out REPEATEDLY Sean Strickland, who is the mens 185lbs world champion in the UFC. He said she "tapped him out repeatedly with Japanese moves he'd never heard of, because he's not a communist."

Judo is just sport-friendly Japanese Ju Jitsu. Grand Master Kano took out the lethal and maiming moves from JJJ and called the new watered-down system "Judo".

[SeekerOfTruth007]

youtube.com/shorts/YSTfP22NzkI?si=V7Kq58HSQ049wtkW

[Just_Ken]

JJJ was designed to work against armoured samurai, was the martial art of an elite warrior class. What Judo did was simplify it as you aren't going to be fight samurai in the 1900s. The karate guys i spared with tried that chop blocking but left themselves open in the attempt, one guy got me with it but I hit him with a cross that put him down.

Would take anything Strickland says with a pinch of salt, he tries to be as controversial as possible as a means of self promotion

[Chazmatazz269]

Clinching and grappling have the same effect while opening up offensive opportunities and shutting down countering opportunities.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I'm well aware of the benefits and drawbacks of grappling. I have 6.5 years of fighting experience in a grappling oriented okinawan karate style, and another 1.5 years of fighting experience in Gracie BJJ.

I'm not saying, "stand there and try this repeatedly." What I am saying is "take what the opponent gives you". It's easier to chop block an arm when they throw a punch than it is to fully extend your own punch to try to counter to the face, at least initially. You can of course throw in any amount of grappling and striking while chop blocking someone's punch. That's sort of my point. It costs you nothing to add the technique to your arsenal of skills.

Me watching MMA is like this...

"Okay, blue, why didn't you elbow over the top right there?"

"Hey idiot, take a half-step back then drive the knee straight into the solar plexus." ( When you attempt a knee from too close range it glances off the side instead of hitting center.)

"Okay, you caught a roundhouse kick out of the air, but you let it go instead of applying some sort of heel hook or other lock. Why exactly is that?"

by the way, during my BJJ time, I was shocked to learn BJJ does not teach the front figure 4 ankle lock nor the reverse figure 4 ankle lock. It's perfect for finishing someone after you catch their bad roundhouse out of the air.

[Chazmatazz269]

I think you overestimate yourself. If you’re so good, go train fighters. Put your money where your mouth is.
You’ll be an overnight sensation for teaching fighters things that nobody else has considered in over thirty years mixed martial arts training and fighting.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

This is a tai chi instructor teaching some of the concepts I mentioned.

https://youtu.be/0iw4xFD-47Q?si=0ja95OxaX3XleKm9

It works, and it's devastating.

[AI Opinion]

In theory it sounds awesome, like those movie fight scenes, but live MMA is a different animal 🥊

Chop shots to the biceps and forearms are:
Hard to time cleanly against small gloves and constant feints.
Low-percentage compared to jabs, low kicks, takedowns, and clinch work.
Risky, because you’re exposing your chin and ribs while “aiming small.”

Fighters stick to what’s proven under pressure, not what only works in light, cooperative sparring.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Hey bot, I'm a human being, and you're not.

I've actually won street self defense fights before in my life. You haven't.

I've actually beaten pro boxers in a real fight. You haven't.

I've actually done just about anything I can name, and you haven't.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

If you saw what I had to do for my black belt test, you'd realize why I am highly critical of MMA fighters. i had to beat two 2nd degree black belts attacking me full power, and I did it and locked both of them down until sensei ended it on "unanswered strikes".

The syllabus only required me to beat two second kyus for black belt testing, but Sensei didn't have two male second kyus at the time, so he made me test against the two closest ranks above that which were present, which was two second degree black belts, and they weren't paper black belts. The promotion standard is every 2 ranks you go up, you're supposed to win a full contact handicap against 2 people of the previous rank. That holds true all the way to 5th Dan in the style and in the family of associated gyms.

If I was 20 years old again, I could beat Sean Strickland in a 1vs1 and wouldn't even need to hurt him. Same rules. He's the 185lbs world undisputed champion right now. I could beat TWO fighters as good as him too, but I'd probably need to hurt one of them pretty badly to make that work.

[NathanDavis]

as easy as hitting Pacquiao right in the jaw... 99 times

do it a 100 times... and he finally falls