Are UFC fighters overrated?

[Wade12345]

I swear. I do not understand how some of these people got their black belts. They can't hold standing guard and get knocked right out by a head kick or routine jab-cross punch combination.

I have thousands of hours fighting and sparring against second and third degree black belt opponents, and I've literally NEVER been successfully kicked in the head, nor has anyone ever knocked me out with a mere two punch combo, like these two bozos on the UFC card last night.

How on EARTH did they get a black belt In an allegedly real style of martial arts and they can't even hold standing guard with the NEUTRAL REFEREE reminding them to keep their hands up? IF the Ref needed to remind a fighter to get their hands up, he should go ahead and stop the fight. Either they already got ROCKED one too many times, or they just sucked to begin with. Either way they're a 50% scrub wannabe.

IF you fought me in my prime, you BETTER know how to hold standing guard while leg -checking all 11 basic Isshinryu kicks, because if you drop your guard to parry a kick to the mid-section I'm going to knock you right out with a jab-cross-hook-uppercut "continuous fist" style offense... and you had better leg check vs all of my body kicks, because if my thrust kick landed (back then) that was the end of the fight too. My right cross in 4 oz gloves vs your face meant you lost the fight.

Most of these fighters aren't even the equivalent of a real Isshinryu light green belt.

Hell yes.

Not really

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Besides all that, I used to beat absolutely anybody in a clinch when I was 20 years old. didn't' matter if it was karate rules or boxing rules or no rules. I get you in a clinch and I'm wearing you out with knees and then my thrust kick. Knee-thrust kick, yank you down into it for double the fun.

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What's the deal with "black belts" throwing "air punches" because they don't know how to use straight kicks to control and gauge range properly?

The Reason Usman and Adesanya win via stand-up is because they both throw 30 kicks per round, even though they "win" via punches, it's the kicks to the body and legs that set up the punches to the head.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

A great fighter can make a good fighter look incompetent. This isn't like tennis, where everyone can always use good form at all times because they have plenty of personal space.

[Wade12345]

I agree with you, skill gaps get like that, but you'd think everyone could just watch Kamaru Usman, the fricken scientifically perfect fighter, and at least try to copy him.

These kids make unwitting mistakes and apparently have no idea why they even lost the fight. In this case, the guy's standing guard is too wide, so straight punches get right through, and he made the mistake of squaring his shoulders up on top of that. The only time you can afford to square up against a good fighter is if you are in the process of throwing a font heel thrust kick off the back leg, which is again a kick Usman sometimes uses and It's my favorite kick. This scrub wasn't' kicking, he just go KO'd by a straight up jab-cross... reset jab-cross... KO. "Oh really, that's all you got?"

That guy needs at least six months dedicated training on nothing but holding standing guard before he steps int he octagon again. Serious.

[Wade12345]

Like for example, the guys atthe local Gracie dojo never even practice real stand-up. I mean the science of stand-up. They only practiced grappling on the ground. So then they think they can just string together a few unskiled punches and kicks long enough to get in position for a big takedown attempt, and it doesn't work like that. A guy who practices the science of stand-up will eat him for lunch. So they join the local MMA league in Louisiana and once they get passed the totally unskilled fighters and have like 5 wins, they hit the wall, because they get knocked out by someone who is a real blackbelt. They don't realize it takes 4000 hours practicing stand-up to get a black belt in a REAL stand-up style, like Isshinryu or Krav Maga or Ninjitsu.

[Wade12345]

The reason I harp on people who drop their hands in professional fights is this, both boxers and MMA even supposedly "elite" fighters have bad habits.

You drop your "off hand" while you are punching with the other hand or while kicking as people often do and you actually get hit directly in the face by someone who is a REAL black belt in a real striking style of martial arts, your ass is going to be knocked cold and not only that, something is going to get broken in your head.

If you don't keep both hands at chin level the entire time, my old sensei wasn't giving you a purple belt, and he'd leave you at green belt until you either got better or forever, whichever came first. By the time his students got a brown or black belt, they were 3 belt ranks better than any other stand-up style in the area. They actually tested it from time to time in private seminars, and Mark Meyers and A. J. Advincula's students were 3 belt ranks better than any other style they tested it against in private seminars. When I was 20 years old I could punch a 200 pound standing water bag and make it fly back and flip over, and I could kick it and send it flying 10 feet across the room, and I wasn't a heavyweight. I was only 185 pounds. If a real heavyweight black belt hits you in the head square on, and you neither block it nor slip it, then it knocks you out in one hit... and it breaks bones.

[Wade12345]

Anyway, this isn't Points Sparring and it's not fake WWE.

A Real Heavyweight Black Belt can break cinder block with their bare fist. Imagine what that does to your head and your brain if you get hit squarely in the face by their right cross or God-forbid a Hammer-Fist?

[Wade12345]

I'm not saying they all suck, only the low and middle tier ones. Adesanya and Usman are generational fighters for their respective weight classes, so they are real black belts.

I'm a black belt and 185pounds for my ideal weight. I can break bricks and 2x6s with my right cross or hammer fist without injuring my own hand and without using tape on my knuckles or wrist. I have perfect mechanics. If I hit another man in the head even one time with my right cross or hammer fist, he's knocked into next month and his career is going to be over.

The other day someone online was saying Caneli could beat Kamaru Usman. Give me a break. Usman is a black belt in multiple styles of martial arts. If he hits a man in the head it's a knockout. He doesn't' drop his guard and he doesn't throw air punches, (and neither do I for that matter). IF he hits Caneli even one clean hit that's going to be the end of such a hypothetical fight.

[Wade12345]

Most UFC fighters are only purple brown, or first degree black belts in inferior styles.

My old instructors were a 4th and 7th degree black belt respectively, and they taught me everything they knew. It would take at least a 3rd degree black belt opponent before I'd be even slightly intimidated by them, and the only reason they might beat me is because my feet and left hand are numb now from diabetes. Otherwise I would smoke any 2nd or third degree black belt in a fight, and me vs a purple belt or brown belt would be a complete joke. I am not even remotely challenged by a brown belt in a full contact fight. I'd piss on them and laugh at how inferior they are.