Should people over a certain size and weight be compelled to buy 2 airline seats to stop them from encroaching in other passengers space?

[CubaPirate]

[MuddyMole]

I like the general idea, but I think it's unworkable.

Weight is not the issue, or a sensible comparison. If someone turns up with more baggage than they booked, they still get to take it on board - they just get stung with a hefty excess baggage fee.

That doesn't work in the case of seats, because there isn't the spare capacity - planes are usually fully booked already (airlines operate with with incredibly slim profit margins, so they can't afford to have empty seats). It's hard to imagine an airline turning away someone who is taking his family of five on their annual vacation, because he didn't disclose his size beforehand - the negative publicity would be way too much.

[USLegionary]

Absolutely. Why should I share my seat with some obese bitch. Actually had an argument with some fattypuff over this. She wanted me to lift my armrest as she was fat

[CubaPirate]

Disgraceful aren't they

[TrueConfection]

Amusement parks have charts that read, "You must be this tall to ride this ride." Airlines have displays that read, "If your bag does not fit in this box, it will not fit in the overhead and must be checked." Maybe airlines need a horizontal chart or a seat display that reads, "You must be able to fit within these parameters or upgrade to the next size."

A 3X shirt costs more than a size medium manufacture and the cost is passed onto the consumer. It's not discrimination.

[CubaPirate]

Great answer thank you

[MikeInHawaii]

Jay Leno suggested that when Southwest started charging fat people for two seats. He called it “the size wise thing for your ass.” Southwest said fat people encroaching into other people’s seats is their number one consumer complaint.

[TrueConfection]

You're welcome.

[TrueConfection]

@MikeInHawaii Yes, the encroaching thing combined with the entitlement thing usually results in loss of space (armrest, legroom, being bumped over and over). Add loss of a couple inches of cherished personal space and you get angry passengers.

[MuddyMole]

I have literally never seen anywhere charge different amounts for the same items of clothing in different sizes, except where they're completely sold out of the popular sizes and just discounting what's left to clear it (usually extremely small and large sizes).

[TrueConfection]

@MuddyMole I literally just searched men's shirts on Amazon and here is the first one I clicked on www.amazon.com/.../ref=mp_s_a_1_25

$40 for medium and $45 for the XXL, same color. Maybe not ALL clothing companies separate the prices, but you're sadly mistaken of you don't think it costs more to manufacture a 3X than a medium. If you see the different sizes at the same price, that only means the textile company divided the total cost among the total pieces made, in which case the person buying a medium is now paying the higher price.

[MuddyMole]

I'm pretty certain that's just an example of what I was saying about discounting old stock on Amazon to clear it. If you look at that same shirt in black, it's $32.97 for a small, but only $31.99 for a medium. If you go to Hurley. com and look at their current lines, there is zero price difference between sizes (and the original RRP is always the same).
Of course, a larger shirt does use more fabric, so in a way, smaller people are getting ripped off - but that's a tiny part of the overall cost. If you pay $15 (before tax) for a shirt, the cost of materials only contributes about $1 of that - the rest is profit (60%), warehousing & shipping (20%), and labour & design (15%).

[TrueConfection]

@MuddyMole $1 isn't too bad if you only wear one shirt I guess.

[TrueConfection]

by the way, I am not going to research the Hurley website because you feel like trolling my opinion. As I said, that link I provided you was the first I clicked. I'm certain there are other brands. You said you have, "literally never seen anywhere charge different amounts for the same items of clothing in different sizes..." I showed you they are.
Nothing on that ad said certain sizes were, "discounted due to old stock."

[Emiliamazing]

This is a tough situation. I agree with gentleman who noted the baggage weight charges, and I agree with that statement. I’m just wondering how they (the airline) could approach the subject without getting a lawsuit thrown at them.

[CubaPirate]

Well I hear you but I'm more than little pissed off with being seated next to overweight offside who think it's acceptable for their blubber to spill over the armrest into my seat

[Emiliamazing]

I complete agree. I fly regularly (couple times a month). This happens frequently in every flight. I just don’t know how to approach it.

[Emiliamazing]

The other situation that could prove challenging is those with disabilities in wheelchairs and such, I’ve got some friends who used to be flight attendants. I bet they could provide some input.

[CubaPirate]

That would great to hear

[MikeInHawaii]

My father had a man ask if he’d mind putting up the arm rest since he couldn’t fit in the seat. Tact not being my late father’s strong suit, he said “Your God damn fat ass isn’t sitting in my lap all the way to San Diego (from Washington, DC).”

The flight attendant had to separate them.

[Emiliamazing]

@MikeInHawaii oh my! While the response is a little harsh in my book, your father should not have been put in that position/situation. Individuals should be able to self assess and not be too proud to realize their size affects other passengers.

[AviatorTom]

Yes, that's a good idea, though it would bring out the wrath of many organizations as being discriminatory.

I worked with a guy who weighed 350 pounds. Whenever we traveled together on business, he always bought 2 seats.

Cargo gets charged by how big and heavy it is, why not people?

[Blueeyes81]

Yes or create a section (other than first class) where they have seats that allow for overflow that come with a surcharge. I'm not overweight but I am tall and would love a big and tall section so I don't lose feeling in my legs 10 minutes into a flight.

[LazerBean]

Well yeah, if you take up more than one seat then obviously you should pay for more than one seat.

[CubaPirate]

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[Smoke-n-Growls]

Absolutely. And they should also buy two seats because they are effectively so heavy they would be the equivalent of two passengers.

It's just polite to pay for what you use. Especially on such a weight dependent machine as an airplane.

[Anonymous]

Sounds good to me. If they're going to weigh my fucking bag and try to charge me $200 for being over the limit, I'd like to have a TOTAL weight limit between me AND my bag that holds for each passenger.

[CubaPirate]

My thoughts exactly

[andreasderjuengere]

That won't make the individual seat wider, unfortunately.
I'd rather recommend to establish the fare by body weight plus luggage,
or by reducing the size of entry doors: you don't get through... then you will stay behind.

[Moose304]

This BS is why when I travel less than 1500 miles I fly my Cessna 182. For longer distances, I fly either first class or business class. Understand this goes WAY beyond people being large. For some stupid reason, people WILL NOT take a dang bath and get on an airplane reeking of BO! Thankfully today when I do travel I have enough funds to sit away from these ignorant people.

[RedThread]

If they're preventing other people access to their seats then yeah. I am understanding of this issue only because I'm tall and have issues fitting for that reason. The person in front of me can't recline their seat because my knees are in the way. Should I have to purchase the seat in front of me in that case?

[Friendlybro79]

I say this with respect but yes I think you should pay for two if you take up two seats. I've sat between two rather large people before and I actually couldn't fit. Luckily I was able to sit elsewhere with the help of a flight attendant.

[dragoblack]

Yes. many will say it is fat shaming, but in terms of how the airports calculate weight to fuel consumption, it would actually be beneficial for both the plane and the passenger.

[Adronicus]

Yes! Not everyone else's fault they choose their lifestyle & I don't think everyone should be enabling the hogger mentality any way. Pay close attention & you'll notice that obesity is more than appearance, it's also a state of being & way of life.

[Ryfyle]

Absolutely. They should pay quadruple for inflicting there disgusting lard asses on the general public.

[bootieclapper9000]

everyone should lose weight or gain weight through muscle
no one should be fat

[Friendlybro79]

Uh the question isn't how should people lose or gain weight.

[LimitedBenefits101]

fat people should not be allowed to fly simple as that.

[Subarugirl]

No the airlines should make seats that fit their passengers. I am not fat but seats are often too small for me too.

[DermalPunch]

They do have to on many airlines.

[CubaPirate]

I didn't know that which ones

[DermalPunch]

Southwest Airlines.

[Pete671]

yes although a sliding scale should apply, and larger people pay double at a certain threshold,,,

[Anonymous]

Yeah I think they are required to in some places, it’s not fair sitting next to someone so fat

[RobEurope]

Yes. They should also pay ecology taxes.

[CubaPirate]

And extra for clothes too

[Gloree]

Yes they should. And please make this into a poll.

[007kingifrit]

hell yea they ruin it for the rest of us

[Chazmatazz269]

Definitely.

[Fuentes]

Their should be a weight limit for each seat.

[Friendlybro79]

I actually agree with this and for ex economy seat max weight could be different than first class where seats are roomier. It might seem unfair or mean but if you can't fit you can't fit. Losing weight might be tough for some people but it's not impossible. If you want to fly you got to fit in the seat or pay for two

[MikeInHawaii]

Yes!

[douride2]

I think they should.

[Iron_Man]

That’s not really fair to NBA people

[Cristinaissweet]

Maybe

[Andro36]

Yes, they should