Damn It Turkey, Keep it Together

[sjoes006]

Why Turkey, why? Please find some order I implore you. You're too nice of a nation with so much rich history in the arts and academia to slip down the path into a failed state overrun by daesh.

If you allow your country to become destabLized it is a path from which you will never return. There is too much at stake for you. It isn't a choice. You have to settle the dispute within your borders for the good of your country whether you like what it currently looks like or not. Otherwise you all lose.

Maybe be in the future this will change but surely you can see by looking around you that any instability is going to leave you open to horrors you've never seen by insurgents.

[Jan1ssary_]

I supported coup in the beginning, cause I thought they were soldiers who defend Ataturk's beliefs and want Turkey to stay "secular" , but the truth is they werent soldiers Who Want to defend democracy & republic, they were serving for terrorist organization group called "FETO" and their leader "Fetullah Gulen" who is living in USA for 15 years. He is worse than Erdogan actually if millitary coup would succeed Turkey could be a "Radical Islamist country with sheria" right now, Fetullah would start to rule the country and He would be like Iran's "Humeyni". So hopefully it isn't happend, I dont support Erdogan and I didn't vote for him ever, but at least he isn't that shit, he improved Turkish Armed Forces for real, and during his period our economy didn't become shit, I just Dont like his ideology & his beliefs, but He is kind of Guy Who can keep all of Turkish citizens together.

[conquer]

Komutanım başta darbeye neden sevindiniz o zaman ya? Bu kadar güzel işler yapıyor herif madem. bence de ideolojisi dünya görüşü yanlış ama o gitseydi ülke kaosa sürüklenirdi sadece Fethullahla alakalı bi mesele değil.

[Jan1ssary_]

@conquer kardes k. b üstünden 6 gün geçmiş pek vakit bulamadım teldende yazmak istemedim uzun olur diye. Erdoğan okadar büyük işler yapmadı işin doğrusu, hani yaptığı işler var aynen ama günümüzdeki kadar abartilmamasi lazım. Askeriye güçlendi, fakat hala daha kendi seylerini uretemiyor Türkiye? Ekonomi birçok AB ülkesinden iyi ama son bikaç senede 16. Sıradan 19. Sıraya geriledik, Fetocularin Türkiye devleti içine sizmalarinin en büyük sebebi yine Erdoğan, ülkeye turist gelmemesinin ve zarar etmemizin sebebide o. Daha çok olay var ama burdan yazamam limit olduğu için. Erdoğanin en iyi özelliği ona tapanlarin sayısı fazla olduğundan onları kontrol altında tutabilmesi ve bu milletin nabzını bilebilmesidir. Yoksa ülkenin kalkınmasında çok büyük bir payı yok, bunlar geçtiğinde Türkiye zaten daha yeni yeni kalkiniyordu bunlar o sistemi bozmadilar ve devam ettirdiler. Yol olmayan yerlere yol yaptılar birde olay bundan ibaret.

[conquer]

Be clear. what do you mean with this text. l see you dont oppose military coup but you oppose erdoğan are you sure you are democrat. you dont know turkey really and you are getting information by one-sided media like BBC CNN all of them hate turks and turkey and support ppk. l am not supportor of erdoğan l dont vote for him. l swear. but western peoples hate him just because he is powerfull muslim leader. CNN joint protest meeting of military coup and made disinformation saying peoples who join meeting protest erdoğan. BBC and other TV media became sad about failure of coup.

[sjoes006]

Millitary coups aren't acceptable from a country seeking EU membership for so long. I'm against anything that further destabilizes the region. I certainly don't want to see Turkey collapse into a failed state.

[conquer]

And turkey have always been weak with artistic and academia point of view. you dont really know turkey

[conquer]

İF coup would be succesfull in fact turkey collepsed then. who did planed This coup? ABD wanted and planed whit his military officers in NATO base incirlik. why fethullah gulen have been in pensilvania for 17 years. he is puppet of CİA. you say turkey droped russian plane. they were followers of fetullah who drop that plane. but stupit erdogan did not understand it. they did it with abd's order. erdogan did not obey to ABD and close to china, wanted to buy gun from them and applied for shangai coorperation organisation. because of this ABD wanted their agent fethullah gülen as president in turkey and prepared a coup. abd did not even blame military coup in the beginning. they said we want peace and serenity in turkey. but name of coup comission was "peace in turkey"

Furthermore who care of EU. EU dont want US among them. europan contries won't accept us to EU because they hate US. l am an atheist but you hate turkey as it is muslim state. so turks dont want to join to EU.

[conquer]

EU is in dispersion proses already.

[conquer]

"Millitary coups aren't acceptable from a country seeking EU membership for so long"
Well then why did not you blame military coup in your take?

[conquer]

l have been feeling sad about your assay for three days.

"If you allow your country to become destabLized it is a path from which you will never return."

turkey has always been stabilized country since 2002 after AKP erdoğan government. if coup was succesfull then turkey would actualy be destabilized.
Why do your goverments have hostile atittude againts turks and turkey. we are not enemy to europa and dont intend to occupy the continent like in the old times. we are not wild peoples as victor hugo said. l have some friends and relatives who are married with europan girls. we dont force them to convert to İslam. we appraciate them to be human and mother. why are the turks in this cite insistant on question related with themselfs. Because they think you have some prejugdes.

l am a followers of atatürk and haven't vote for HIM but l see that Europa dont hate erdoğan in fact they hate turkey. but try to hide their aim. and turkish peoples started hate ABD and EU of being behind this coup.

[Anonymous]

There's a smell about it.
rdogan used the coup to jail the military who criticized him. He also arrested and dismissed judges who weren't Erdogan slaves : www.independent.co.uk/.../...erthrow-a7140661.html

[sjoes006]

Oh yes I'm quite aware that he's no good. He's a trouble maker that shit he tried to play with Russia striking down that plane and he was in he wrong. He tried to have us all for fools.

But still Turkey cannot come undone. Not right now. We won't be able to save them and it sickens me to imagine Turkey as another casualty of this violence. They have to maintain their borders.

With everything going on in the world and as horrible as it all is I just can't bare to see Turkey fall. and it can happen in an instant. Last night that could have been it. I thought it was it.

[Opinion Owner]

Arming the Kurd Peshmergas, first against Saddam, now against Assad is a recipe for trouble in Turkey.
Ankara feels it's losing control.

[Darkone1]

It won't Turkey is powerful nation.

[Darkone1]

by the way its US that is behind this.

[Opinion Owner]

@Darkone1 probably the US indeed. But the French knew something was coming. The Fench embassy called off its usual July 14 July drink.

[Opinion Owner]

@Darkone1 If the French embassy called off their July 14 coctail they had informations.

[Darkone1]

This is stupid move by Pentagon, Turkey was the last Muslim country that was on US side. They are still members of NATO but I know its temporary. Turkey will allow the relations to deteriorate slowly cuz they don't want to attract unnecessary attention. Like Pakistan once great ally now they have tripled their nukes production in 2015 to counter US aerosol and by 2021 they will acquire nukes equal to Us and Russia.. The fact is Muslims are US only Oil suppliers and export buyers with current situation its dumb move by US.

[Opinion Owner]

@Darkone1 Here's the problem:
Article 5
The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
www.nato.int/.../official_texts_17120.htm
If the Kurds declare their independence NATO would have another war on its hands.
And the USA have been arming the Peshmergas for years.

[Darkone1]

I don't think its going to happen, Kurds don't have enough weapons to fight the country. The USA will make sure that kurds get their hand on weapons before making the final move, anyway USA will be defeated in chaos like,
Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

[Opinion Owner]

@Darkone1 I remember reading last month that Germany had some tornado jet fighters positioned in Eastern Turkey, to fight ISIS and called them back when Turkey and the Kurds started shelling each other. Germany too knows what might run foul there.

[Opinion Owner]

@Darkone1The Kurds might have enough oil to buy weapons. The whole ISIS thing isn't about an Islamic Caliphate, it's about the oil fields in Iraq and possibly Kuzestan too. That's what making the west walking on eggs now:
Khuzestan is the biggest Iranian oilfield.
Iraq is among the richest oil fields in the world and Saudi Arabian oil reserves were vastly overestimated. (the KSA seems heading for financial problems)

[the-mad-german]

Turkey is the most recent dictatorship on earth now. Erdogan provoked that coup, let them belive the whole military is behind them... and then stab them in the back. Now he can "arrest" every piece of opposition under the flag of that coup attempt.

[LoveOfKurtCobain]

What the hell are you talking about?

I am Turk.
I living in Türkiye and yea, Turks know. Erdoğan is a real leader.
You know nothing about Turks and Erdoğan. He is a real patriotic.
And shut up!
Because you are an ignorant about Türkiye!!

[the-mad-german]

@LoveOfKurtCobain Mussolini was also Patriotic and a great Leader, also Franco, also Hitler, also Castro, also Stalin...

[LoveOfKurtCobain]

Ahahahaha. All of you are hate Erdoğan. Because Turks love him... Because aggrieveds love him...
BECAUSE HE LOVES TÜRKİYE. BECAUSE HE IS LIKE SECOND ATATÜRK FOR MY NATION!!

[the-mad-german]

@LoveOfKurtCobain Speak the name Attatürk in the same line with Erdogan is a insult. Erdogan and his muslim horde now destroy everything the great refomer attatürk once created. A modern islamic state. Happy ride back to medieval like all the rest of arab countries on the erdogan express...