Do you think the accusation that Cristiano Ronaldo raped a young woman is true?

[Anonymous]

The sender was a lawyer from the firm of Carlos Osório de Castro, a lawyer who has long represented the soccer star[CH1] . The recipients were Osório de Castro himself and an additional colleague.

In response to the question of whether Ms. C had ever raised her voice, screamed or called out, X answered according to the document: “She said no and stop several times.” And furthermore: “I ****ed her from the side. She made herself available. She was lying on her side, in bed, and I entered her from behind. It was rude. We didn’t change position. 5/7 minutes.

She said that she didn’t want to, but she made herself available.” And further: “But she kept saying ‘no.’ ‘Don’t do it.’ ‘I’m not like the others.’ I apologized afterwards.” The document quotes him as saying that she never screamed and never called out for anyone."

YES

NO

[deLéman]

First off, CR7 was my biggest idol. I spent hours studying his playing style and trying to build my body to look like his. However, since the allegations seem pretty serious, and he admitted that she didn't consent to anal sex, I'm really disappointed in him. I'm heavily leaning towards supporting the woman, but I'm going to wait for him to receive official judgement before I disavow him completely.

For some of the guys saying that there's no woman who would deny him sex, that's a narrow-minded assumption. I mean she may have wanted intercourse with him, but anal wasn't what she had in mind. If he really did coerce her, that's really screwed up. Also, perhaps the reason she didn't just get up and leave was because she was scared that he might react violently or whatever else was going through her frantic mind.

TL;DR: I support her, but I'm awaiting official judgement before I condemn him.

[Tslaveee]

I think you want to be with him rather than be like him

[WitchsLove]

where did you read this information about him coercing her into anal sex?

[deLéman]

@WitchsLove www.google.ch/.../...st-ronaldo-a-1230759-amp.html

Der Spiegel is one of Germany's most reputable news outlet

[WitchsLove]

thanks

[OlderAndWiser]

I did not watch the video. The description of the incident is ambiguous. "No" can be said in a way that is inviting and provocative and actually means "yes." I will probably get some hateful responses to this idea but it is not solely the product of a prehistoric brain. www.psychologytoday.com/.../just-say-no-and-be-sure-mean-it

[NatashaJ]

She could easily been telling the truth thou I heard from other women in my life where they tell a guy to stop and he never does. If you go on reddit I found interesting one woman point out just because someone never told you you raped them doesn't mean you didn't raped them. She meant many men don't realize they actually did commit rape and walk away thinking they never did. I almost been raped before as well by a ex he try to stick it in my anus without telling me or asking if he could he literally try and couldn't. I didn't look at him the same way I didn't tell him that thou it just add to the list of stuff I didn't like about him.

[NatashaJ]

I also did call him out that he try to rape me I didn't know what to say because I was shocked how he literally try that on me and didn't see anything wrong with what he did but I think I was dating a sociopath or psychopath he had the signs from both.

[NatashaJ]

didn't*

[sonnysunshine]

I’m really sorry that happened to you. I’m glad you told him to stop before it went further.

Every time I have sex with a girl I’ll usually ask straight up if it’s okay. The times I don’t it’s obvious she wants it. But even in those situations I’ll ask a girl “should i put on a condom?” (If she doesn’t want sex I highly doubt she would say yes) or I’ll ask her to start on top.

Guys worry girls will freeze up if we straight up ask. In other words they would be okay with it, but if we point out the obvious she will change her mind... like verbally consenting makes her feel like a slut. But nowadays it’s better to be safe than sorry.

[NatashaJ]

@sonnysunshine oh I didn't he let me know after he tried and failed he try to do that shit on me then I was like in my head "WHAT DID YOU JUST TRY TO RAPE ME". I agree it better to get a answer and accept that answer instead of getting mad she said no move on if you love her you wouldn't shame or hold it against her if she decides to say no a few times to sex.

[sonnysunshine]

More women need to directly SPEAK UP if they don’t want sex. I’m glad you did. But others send mixed messages.

I once had a hook up with a girl who I was finger banging and she started breathing heavy and whispering “stop”. I then stopped immediately and she look at me and said “why did you stop? I was about to cum!” And I was like “well you said stop?” She say respond with “well I always say stop before I orgasm...”.

So for decent guys out there, how the fuck do we react to that? I knew that was a “no yes” but still I have to cover my ass especially since it was a hook up. But the lines are often blurry. Both sexes suffer because of it.

[NatashaJ]

@sonnysunshine did you tell her that really weird?

[sonnysunshine]

that what she was saying was really weird?

[sonnysunshine]

we were in the middle of a good session that she flat out asked me for a hour earlier after having a few drinks (she asked me while kissing if I had a condom). It was plain as day she happily and readily wanted it. She tried to get me to go down on her (I almost never do this to girls I don't know well). She liked the fingering and that's when she started moaning "stop". It was obvious she didn't really want me to stop. But I stopped anyway, no means no (so stop means stop)... right?

[WitchsLove]

you did the right thing @sonnysunshine

As you said, better safe than sorry. I'd bet not many are like you.

[NatashaJ]

@WitchsLove True in case she thought it was rape.

[sonnysunshine]

She was frustrated I stopped. Mixed messages aren’t sexy. But many women do this

[Pink2000]

Damn they done got him too? We might as well start saying every well known man with money is a rapist 😐

[Blightly]

its a good plan

find a dude with cash, go home with him, regret it, go to the cops and claim he took advantage of you because you had alcohol in your system. technically, you're right because of the alcohol, making you unable to give adequate consent in the eyes of the law and making him a rapist. doesn't matter if he was more, less or equally as drunk as you at the time. the very fact sex had taken place while you had alcohol in you makes him a potential rapist if you so choose

[ibotje]

#himtoo

[Pink2000]

@ibotje lmaoooo

[Northern_star]

im usually against every rape accusations.. but this.. thing... well... im not saying he did it but.. how else would he get sex? he looks like a funny piece of brown rice, after 6months of getting a tan in the solarium, dressed as a human... if i accidentally say "lgbt" the first visual image poppes into my mind resembles him.
okok, seriously, we live in the age where rape is the lie women loves to tell to get resources.. OR to take back responsibility after changin their mind. so maybe even this hermafrodite is innocent..

[InTimoreDei]

Thought he was gay. lol.

[Danny_dan92]

Definitely not, the man is not only an athlete, but he is rich, famous, and no homo but the dude is attractive as hell. Shit if I was a girl and he tried taking me to bed I’d spread my legs into the splits... damn I sound gay as hell 😂 but in all seriousness I really doubt they are true.

The girl just wants publicity and to become famous if not that rich

[Lucious22]

Over the year over 100 celebrities have been accuse of rape and sexual offenses, I believe more then 80% of those are fake and Ronaldo’s is in those 80%, there is no reason for a man like him to do such a thing, he has a beautiful wife and amazing 4 kids.

[Silver158]

exactly!

[NeglectedChild]

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How the hell would I know? I'm just a troll on the internet.

That's for a judge to decide.

[Outofthegrey]

Because of the "trend" of rape allegations against famous people and the total lack of evidence in most of these cases I'm inclined to call bullshit on every single claim of rape against a celebrity going forward.

[Zahraxx]

Seems like she's trying to tear him down if its true she should go to police before going to the press

[sonnysunshine]

She claimed she went to the police in the day after it happened unlike Christine Ford.

[Anonymous]

Very unlikely.
CR has been accused of rape many times every since he became famous. None of them proved to be true, unfortunately all girls looking for $$.

This is a man who is known professionally to have a discipline of steel, not to mention a reputation to protect. If the girl really doesn't want to, she has to speak up.
The man can't be accused of lack of mind reading skills and poor taste in women.

[awesometjgreen]

I don't know. I wanna believe it because everyone knows this kind of thing is prevalent in Hollywood among rich people. Problem is I can't help but feel like this is yet another domino effect where one lady cries assault and suddenly 100 women cry assault and say it happened 50 years ago or some shit and expect something to happen. Honestly this is pointless because he's a white man so nothing is going to happen to him.

[SkipStop]

I'm sure he's innocent. Women lie and lie and lie about rape every minute. I don't take it seriously anymore. Especially when it involves a man who is rich, popular, or has something else high to offer.

[Pamina]

All the rape statistics prove that the exact opposite is the case. False rape accusations are extremely rare. Stop believing this bullshit.

[SkipStop]

@Pamina You think false rape accusations are rare? They are all over the place. Many of them are either ridiculous or forms of revenge against the man.

[NeedHelpFast111]

I don't know what to believe anymore because it's like we can just go around accusing anyone of rape or sexual allegations and they get punished. Just wonder how many of those accused are actually guilty

[arun934]

Rape will happen under two circumstances

1) because of their (boys) worst character and lack of respect on girls. They won't feel guilty.

2) unknowingly it will happen when lost control over them, they feel guilty all over their life.

[NeedHelpFast111]

@arun934 she didn't know when it happened what time it happened or how she got there

[Lovi87]

Innocent until proven guilty.
They will find out eventually if it's
true or not. We have detectives
and forensics for a reason.
They can run tests to find out
if he's been there forcefully, right?

[Benedek38]

I honestly don't care. I stopped caring at "She said that she didn’t want to, but she made herself available."
You went home with him. You went to bed with him. You lied on your side naked next to him. Honestly - what were you expecting?

[Guanfei]

The guy is good looking, successful, rich... He doesn't need to rape, he could have any girl he wants.

[bloodmountain1990]

Rape isn't always about having lack of success with sex, but more about control.

[SngBirdy]

Do you think Christiano Ronaldo is forced to rape women to have sex?
Do you think this women who is obviously having a fun time with ronaldo, resisted when they had sex?

[DeepVoiceEdgar]

Yes, the allegation that Cristiano Ronaldo raped a young woman is true. Look at the victim and tell me if she is lying? Probably not. I think that he saw the opportunity to take advantage of this young girl and took a chance in raping her vagina now he has to pay for his crime.

[ATuairiscean]

Footballers have been getting away with it for years - My only surprise is that it was Cristiano Ronaldo, I always thought he was gay, the way he was having kids with surrogates and all that

[Asker]

" I always thought he was gay, the way he was having kids with surrogates"

Not really seeing the connection here.

[ATuairiscean]

Just a theory I was having - He didn't want to have kids naturally so that is why I thought he was gay

[ATuairiscean]

I suppose surprised he wanted sexual interaction with a woman if he was gay

[Anonymous]

"Damn, I want attention and money / to cut off a guys dick , but I have no talent / will go to jail , what do I do...
I know!! I'll say a famous person / the guy I mutilated raped me!! Everyone will be on my side, even if I have no proof, because if they don't believe me, I can say that they are rape-culture supporting monsters! Women don't ever lie or manipulate, after all! Bulletproof idea!"

[Anonymous]

Funny this allegation is much more recent/solid than the Brett Kavanaugh issue and yet most girls and guys think she is lying.

I’m sure it has nothing to do with that Christine Ronaldo is a young good looking, famous soccer player vs Kavanaugh being a middle aged supreme justice nominee that so happens to be conservative... nah no bearing on our judgment at all.

[cruelwinter]

i usually give everyone benefit of the doubt until i see PROOF.
BUT FOR FUCKS SAKE.
He JUST made a 100million euro transfer deal to Juventus and now this comes out? I'm skeptical...

[MarketData]

It wouldn't surprise me at all. He seems kind of a dick to me. These rich superstars think they can grab any woman by the pussy. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's true. It wouldn't surprise me though.