I found this article on the Independent (https://www. independent. co. uk/life-style/women/manspreading-chair-design-laila-laurel-award-brighton-university-a9008746. html), which provides some interesting context. So, this Laila Laurel is a 3D Design and Craft student who won the award from the University of Brighton; I guess we now know where all the funding went.
"Created as part of her final-year project entitled “A Solution for Manspreading", Laurel also created a second chair intended for women which uses a small piece of wood in the centre of the seat to encourage female sitters to rest with her legs parted, allowing them to take up more space."
So, basically, she created two chairs: one which basically forces women to sit with their legs spread and one for men that forces them to sit with their legs closed. Effectively, she's inverted the problem in order to make a point--except the point she's trying to make is kind of moot, because most men sit with their legs spread because we have these things called testes and a penis down there. All of women's sex organs are internal, which is why they can close their legs for more easily. Some men--not most, just some--intentionally sit with their legs extra wide just to take up more space and "assert dominance". We call them "assholes".
What really bothers me more, though is this paragraph, "According to the online Oxford dictionary, manspreading describes 'the practice whereby a man adopts a sitting position with his legs wide apart, in such a way as to encroach on an adjacent seat'." I couldn't care less about the chair, any jackass with $60 worth of wood, nails and a saw could make it in about 4 hours and lots of patience; it's the implications of both the award for its creation and this introduction of third-wave feminist dogma (manspreading) into the Oxford dictionary, and common vernacular by extension, that really bothers me. Basically, we're continuing down the path of normalizing discrimination against men, in every sector of life and every avenue of society and all of this is simply allowed to happen... for some reason.
Virtue signaling / attention grabbing on the part of the designer. I sure wouldn't have any interest in having a casual discussion with her. (I do recognize that if you asked her if she wanted to have a discussion with me, she would likely say the same thing.) The chair itself looks uncomfortable. As for manspreading, as a person who has balls, I would say it's extremely uncomfortable to sit with my knees together, but at the same time, some men go way too far with it, and it does bother me as well. Some of them do it because they're not aware of the nuisance they're causing. Others do it as "alpha male behavior" i. e. "I'm going to show dominance by taking YOUR space." Both of those reasons bother me, and I definitely wouldn't want to be around either of them but especially the latter.
While I do find it inconvenient to sit next to men in public places when their legs spread out to take up twice as much space as they need... I understand male anatomy and I respect their desire to have all their bits and pieces comfortable down there lmao
I also don't take public transportation often enough to really care. And if I'm on a bus or train long enough to be bothered by it, typically I'm next to my husband anyway so I'll just put my leg on top of his so I have enough space too lmao
I don't really have thoughts on that chair. I didn't realize it was that big of an issue? I'm also pretty small. I take up about half as much room as a normal human being lmao
It’s funny that women are fighting for men to close there legs while simultaneously fighting for the right bleed in public. I just love watching the irony.
I’m just saying that women are making the rules and are now policing men and praising women, don’t you think it’s ironic that women claimed male patriarchy was bad was used to control women, meanwhile their now doing the exact same thing.
It's this person that useless that can't do anything better with life? Plus, the problem with anybody (man or woman) spreading legs is not when they sit in a single chair with nobody around, it's only in public spaces in which there are too many people around, sits are on a row and some people take more space than they really need at expense of other people's space. If someone wants to open their legs 180 degrees and there's space to do so without highlybinvading other people's spaces... who cares?
I even have a bit of hope this girl did it as sarcasm or joke but something tells me she did it as something serious.
if you're looking at crotches in the first place i think that's your fault. man spreading is not about excluding women from sitting down. it's about advertising so you'll sit down on their seat with them.
If she is actually being serious here.. omg. I mean, on public transportation I get it that you aren't supposed to spread your legs wide open reaching into your neighbors seat, but I've NEVER seen anyone doing that. She should totally try having a thing dangling between her legs for a day, I'm sure I would do the same if I was male 😂
Do people really think a chair shaped in a triangle is gonna stop people (yes I said people because women spread their legs too), from spreading their legs? Like no one cares if the man or person is spreading their legs. If it becomes to the point where you are uncomfortable because their legs are touching yours then ask them to close them or scoot over a bit. Plain and simple. Y'all doing to much. Next step your gonna see is feminists asking men to cut off their balls. Smh.
Imagine if a guy made a shirt so breasts wouldn't take up so much standing room. This is sexist nonsense.
Testicles function at an optimal temperature below body heat, so mushing a man's legs together gives them suboptimal function as you increase their temperature. Complaining about man spreading is about as sensible as complaining about women using tampons--it's just a way for us to work with our physiology.
Designing a chair to prevent it is like making a bathroom stall to prevent tampon use. So stupid
Although I do realize on crowded European public transit, it's annoying asf to have to stand because some people are using multiple seats.
But that's because Europe needs to quit crowding public transit by halting overpopulation from poor immigrants and stop carbon taxing the fuck out of gas for cars
Our genitals all just float around down there and closing your legs shut can over time be uncomfortable and puts pressure on things. Additionally, to produce healthy sperm, the testicle need to be at a lower temperature than the rest of the body, which is why they hnag out like they do ala the Scrotum. Keeping your legs together pushes them back towards the body and surrounds them with that body temperature.
Its natural for men to be more comfortable "Manspreading" because that's just the way it is.
Women complain a lot about their breasts getting in the way or being uncomfortable in certain positions etc... They stick out, so if you're stuck on a crowded bus or train, should they have a device that compresses their boobs flat so they're not in the way of other people?
No.
People need to educate themselves and simply accept the differences the male and female bodies have.
... You think I can' man spread on that chair? you FOOLS! xD
But in all seriousness... just why? Who the fuck is actually bothered by "man spreading?" I think the first time I even heard the term was like two months ago. Guys want to sit comfortably and sometimes you've just gotta give your privates room to breath. Don't look at our crotches if it makes you uncomfortable. No one is asking you to. If women are allowed to get upset at guys looking at their boobs in a low-cut shirt, guys should be allowed to get upset at women looking at their crotch while man spreading xD
How does this stop "manspreading" and why are we creating inventions that hinder peoples freedom? Are we saying we won't allow men to be comfortable? And why win an award for this? Couldn't anyone have made this contraption? It seems fairly easy to make.
Are women not allowed to spread their legs? Why is she worrying about this? Aren't there more pressing issues at hand? Like the growing rent and homeless crises? Or that around 80 million people have little or zero healthcare insurance? Or that entrepreneurship is still at an all time low? But nope, sexist chairs... that is our priority. That will help end poverty and eliminate corruption in this country, chairs...
I think the chair is stupid and uncomfortable for anyone. Man spreading is ok as long as you're not a complete jerk about it. Like this guy here for example... you can't convince me that a man needs the space of 3 seats for his balls to be comfortable. 😑
That's kinda stupid, the only reason why men spread their legs is because they have balls and it's uncomfortable to keep their legs closed while sitting
Bothers me only in a good way when she stares at the bulge. Girls accentuate boobs to be looked at. Rare for a girl to stare or be interested in a man bulge though.
And seriously? Won an award? I looked it up, and it was at New Designers in London (I believe, I may have found the wrong thing). She is a "feminist", and this being at new designers means this chair is her final project of her university degree. I went with a friend to New Designers, and I remember what was basically just a shelf winning an award too, along with a skateboard with turn signals, so I wouldn't take it too seriously.
Even if they didn't have one I wouldn't understand the amount of butthurt, it's not like they would actually take up a space someone else wants to sit it
A man should make a chair that makes it impossible to put your handbag down next to you just to troll these stupid man hating bitches. Or stir some shit between the body positivity people and feminists since they're so obsessed with taking up extra chair space.
Why are the females in chairs that help them spread? Men have anatomy down there that gives them a bit of an excuse for spreading in my opinion... unless you are pregnant, you can't really give yourself an excuse like men can 🤷
In all honesty the whole reason to man spreading was taken from a wrong perspective of a young lady who assumed it was to do with male dominance. When actually guys physically can not sit without their legs apart in a comfortable manner due to their private areas... Put it this way if you lady's didn't have bras and you were made to lay on your front without moving your breasts to the side it would be a similar example
It's the obedience I have issue with. Considerate, sure, let's encourage that, but the fact that the chair forces people to sit a certain way annoys me. Even the female's chair seems more authoritarian than freeing.
Dumb as dumb can be. I go to university for a proper education and I want that to be respectable, but here someone is making a joke of it. You're 40k in debt now... for this? This is all you amount to? And worse still other retarded people celebrate this nonsense despite it being an example of lost time and wasted effort.
I think its ridiculous and a way for fake feminists to make a big deal out of nothing. EVERYBODY does this, men and women alike. If you want to be proper about it, clasp your hands in a folding position front of your groin so it's still covered. Or set your purse, magazine, shopping bag, whatever you're looking at in front of it.
Unless you're in the military, people dont need to control how you sit. Unless you're in a professional job meeting or interview.
Looks sexist and retarded. Like who would buy that kinda stool. Manspreading is acceptable provided they only take up the space in line with their waist or if the seats are empty.
Wait, what? So guys can't spread their legs but it's totally fine for women to do it?
How about people who want to spread their legs do spread their legs, and we can all just be aware of our surroundings so we're not infringing on the space of anyone else in a public setting.
That's so retarded, I'd just stand. I'd tell them they can't say or do shit, cause until they have a dick and balls, first of all, and have testicular torsion and get surgery for it, and sit with their legs completely together without pain, they can't say shit to me.
How stupid people are nowadays 🙄 have no hope for this world of ours but sitting like that is comfortable I sit like it fairly often so don't get the problem
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there's this thing called balls thats why they sit like that. Why would they make a chair that makes them sit like a proper lady.. what if they crush their balls lol
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hahaha hilarious and unnecessary, all we have to do is push their legs with ours when they don't respect our space, it's what I do on public transportation when they open their legs too much: I sit just like they do and nobody said anything so far
It's idiotic. Why won't they then make a device that forces women have their groceries closer and take less space. Oh yeah it's called wheeled tote bags. I apologize if I offended you but when I take public transport it bothers me that they can't put their groceries in one bigger bag than a bunch of smaller bags.
Absolute bullshit. I for one don’t want to sit in the woman’s chair. I wear dresses and skirts and cross my legs. You think I want to slouch with my legs spread like a beer chugging, butch lesbian?
If I saw that and wanted to sit, the first thing I’d do is pick it up and turn it around. I guess feminists don’t realize men can pick up chairs since they’ve never worked a day in their life.
She is incredibly sexist, is ignoring male anatomy, and treating men like they are animals. Its really disgusting that things have been allowed to get this far.
Stupid idea. "Man spreading" is not a bad thing. It prevents injury and overheating to our private parts. Also it is more comfortable. Women need to get the hell over it and actually deal with bigger issues.
My opinion is she doesn't have balls and doesn't understand the amount of uncomfortableness it takes to sit in a position like that for extended periods of time not to mention the health risks it poses.
She's a stupid bitch and so is any other woman who gets mad about men spreading their legs.
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Yeah because heaven forbid men have genitals that extend outside their body that need some room, so our hips natually rest that way to accommodate said biology.
Oh that's right, this is just more feminist bullshit that ignores the fact that in some ways men are indeed different than women.
Women need to check their privilege on this... just because you don't have to accommodate testicles and a penis between your legs doesn't mean we can't.
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She actually won and award for this nonsense?
So called "manspreading" is just another example of feminists manufacturing "problems" that don't exist in the real world for the purpose of justifying their pathetic existence.
If anyone wonders why feminism gets zero respect these days, they need look no further than this ridiculous story.
But their balls will be crushed... also they look so awkward. As long as guy doesn't bother anyone else and doesn't have his legs spread on 3 seats, it doesn't matter.
This really helps the "feminist" agenda. I'll definetly buy a chair like that to prevent my uncontrollable "man-spreading", I can see it has real potential.
That sounds like an awful idea, that’s like the biggest “fuck you” to guys who are abit bigger. They don’t know how uncomfortable it is to sit like that...
The chair looks ugly and poorly made, very uncomfortable to sit on and all in all about the quality of a middle school crafting project. If i'd be forced to use one ill man spread on it on purpose.
In some countries is considered a torture technique, FFS I can't believe this is a thing how about a rule that if a women takes up a seat with her bags am allowed to steal them
This is a stupid fucking chair. However to all the dudes that try and defend spreading their legs because they have balls and a dick stop!! y'all dicks ain't so massive that you can't sit with your legs together.
I could see the benefit of it in things like trains but is "Manspreading" such a problem that every chair in the world has to be redesigned - How many actual guys do it when in a crowded place?
Now she just needs to design a chair that stops women from putting their bags/purses in empty seats beside them so everyone can all be miserable together
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Why don’t we work on finding a cure to cancer instead? Or like ending world hunger?
Well, statistically more people die of obesity than of hunger today so I think we are doing fine with the world hunger. And scientists are looking for a cure for humger, don't diminish their restless efforts.
@morimeme1 Okay lmao my point is this girl can be inventing something that can help people and instead she’s designing a chair that no one’s gonna use. I’m not diminishing anyone’s efforts I’m just saying there’s real ass problems out there and manspreading is not one of them. It’s annoying ass “feminists” like this who decide to focus on the minuscule dumbass first world problems instead of actually doing something for the people who need help that really piss me off because they make the rest of us look like garbage.
Honestly it sounds to me like some lame ass school fair project lol, but you know, some people are just incapable of making something meaningful so first world problems is all they work with.
They have and have had the cure for cancer and tons of other diseases. Big money making pharmaceuticals dont become big rich pharms by healing us. They keep us sick and keep us full of their dangerous and poisen drugs. Now thats smart. Dont believe me look it up. The mind is a terrible thing to waste
@Opinion owner... If you are a feminist, you need to do more research on feminism and it's actions. You will find that 99% of western feminism is bullshit like this.
I am sure you can, but as a human being, I don't see why anyone would want to claim they are part of a group that pushes nothing but hate and violence towards others.
@LogicBomber The Republican party is associated with hate groups but that doesn’t mean all Republicans are like that. There’s different extremes and beliefs within the term and I shouldn’t have to drop that label just because others who claim the name aren’t doing good things.
Yes but the difference is the core beliefs. The CORE of feminism is hate. The most famous voices of feminism have been hate. Solanas, Greer, Dworkin, Steinem, etc. The most studied, quoted, and idolized feminist. The largest groups of feminism work towards taking rights from men. NOW has stopped men from equal parental rights 3 times. The majority of feminist actions are hateful. So when you peaceful few are the microscopic minority... you are simply the newly indoctrinated part of a cult that are only told the “good” so they can get you in. Feminism preys on and indoctrinates young girls because you are still naïve enough to believe the lies.
Watch Casey Jaye’s red pill. Research the wage gap and rape culture outside of the echo chamber. Most of what you are told about why you are a victim is fabricated. Which is why they use 3rd world women’s plight as a scapegoat.
@LogicBomber The core belief of feminism is equality for both genders. That is what I believe. That is what I choose to believe.
I never said I was a victim and I don’t believe I’m really a victim, to be honest. I’ve been told sexist things, but that’s not why I’m a feminist. I’m a feminist for the girls who are in worse situations than I am. Just because I don’t need feminism doesn’t mean other people don’t, and it’d be really unfair of me to stop promoting equality just because I don’t need it anymore.
You’re only the fiftieth person on this website to try to convince me to not be a feminist, but it’s not going to work. Whether you like it or not you did agree with my original comment.
No, the “definition” of feminism is that belief in equality bullshit. Their actions speak louder than words.
You can have a group called happiness and claim you just want to make people happy, but if the main actions of your group are to cause shit, hurt people, and spread lies... your definition means nothing.
They indoctrinate young naive females with the definition than slowly start filling their heads with false vicim bullshit. Like “rape culture” and “wage gap” which are so easily proven false it’s sad. But they train you to no ask questions and simply believe the echo chamber.
When it comes to the girls worse off than you... not a single feminist has ever gone to a middle east country to try and stop any of it. EVER! It’s a scapegoat.
Western females have endless protection, clubs, groups, housing, funding, shelters, etc. The school system, court system, and police system are bias in your favour. Here in the west... being a feminist for “other girls who need it” is like stopping breathing for the sake of the dead who “need the air”.
@LogicBomber That’s odd because every time I look up the definition of feminism, it says equality for both genders. Obviously you can do anything and say it’s in the name of feminism, but it doesn’t mean that’s what it’s really about. The KKK did all that terrible stuff in the name of Christianity, are you going to blame all Christians? Are you going to say the whole concept of Christianity is wrong?
I won’t get into the wage gap because I’ve never had a job and I don’t understand economics that well, but can you explain to me how rape culture is made up? I’m just genuinely asking because I’ve seen people say it’s false, but no ones explained to me why.
Malala Yousafzai is a feminist from the Middle East who’s actively trying to work to better the rights of women there. You say feminists use it as a scapegoat, but I constantly see struggles of women in the Middle East being used as an argument against feminism. Because it can always be worse right? Don’t complain about what you have now because people over there are suffering even more. Your broken arm can’t hurt because I’m in a full body cast.
You literally went to the definition after I explained how the definition means nothing if the actions don't reflect it.
NOW is the biggest feminist organization. Anything it says in the name of feminism, IS IN THE NAME OF FEMINISM! WAR and the female UN are the same... they are massive feminist organizations that spread lies and false victim nonsense. It isn't a fringe or rouge feminist group... It's feminism at it's core.
If the Vatican did something in the name of Christianity, I would see it as a core belief. because it is the largest christian organization. Why can't you see the correlation. The KKK wasn't a major christian organization.
Rape culture is a feminist creation for many reasons. 1st'ly Feminism Mary Koss created the 1 in 4 stat in 1983 when she had to write a ms magazine article and asked women shit questions like if they ever felt "obligated to have sex" and equated it to rape. it's been debunked for 30+ years 2nd. Campus crime stats across the board prove rape on campus is not what they claim. The bureau of crime statistics (the best crime statistics available) show rape is less than 1 in 1000 (including the "90%" that apparently don't come forward, but doesn't exclude the almost 40% rape claims that are proven false. So it's way less than 1 in 1000.) 3rd. Rapist are punished, they go to jail. But feminist try and stop investigation by calling it "victim blaming". Investigating a crime isn't victim blaming... it's proving a claim.
When I say feminist don't go to the middle east, I mean the white entitled privileged western females who claim to be feminist to help women. They don't go where women actually need help. We all know that shit 3rd world women are treated like shit. But living here virtue signalling and claiming you are trying to help women, but not actually doing anything to help, just spreading misinformation and living comfortably isn't "helping".
We don't man spread just to spite girls. It's our natural sitting position because it's confortable. We have dicks and balls that prefer having some room to breathe rather than squeezing between our legs. Women are ridiculous with this shit.
Not all girls. I hate this chair. Both chairs, actually. For me, I never sit with my legs forward. I don't like that it's kind of saying that there's something wrong with how I sit. And the chair assigned to you is even worse. Some of the girls managed to look confident, but all of the boys sitting in those chairs looked intensely uncomfortable and ill-fitting, and knowing the difference in anatomy, it would be even worse.
Stupid. I can't believe people are so obsessed with such small matters when there's bigger issues we should focus on. Besides, I like sitting with my legs apart too
I think it's supposed to be about space when it's in a crowded setting. I do agree that it shouldn't be an issue, not one that's any bigger than on a case by case basis, like if someone is taking more room than they need.
this is the dumbest thing ever. guys have balls... which get crushed, so we spread our legs to not crush them. our body our choice, if you dont like it... doesn't matter, its our balls being crushed
My testicles and penis would be very comfortable, it's unnatural, men with large members need to spread, otherwise things get sweaty, sticky and smelly.
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