Do you think it's fair to say that evidence is mounting that COVID was created in a lab?

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Specifically, the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

abc3643 · Accepted Answer

To keep this discussion civil, here is an article in the very esteemed scientific magazine "Nature" about the origins of SARS-CoV-2 and the very real possibility of it coming from a leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).

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https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01529-3

NEWS EXPLAINER
08 June 2021

TITLE: The COVID lab-leak hypothesis: what scientists do and don’t know
SUBTITLE: Nature examines arguments that the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 escaped from a lab in China, and the science behind them.

Amy Maxmen & Smriti Mallapaty

Do you think it's fair to say that evidence is mounting that COVID was created in a lab?

CAPTION: The Wuhan Institute of Virology has carried out research on coronaviruses for years because these pathogens are endemic to the region where it's located.

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The article is very good in breaking down the evidence for and against it being a laboratory leak.

That said, the real bottom-line right now is that it doesn't matter if SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was created in a laboratory or was a terrorist plot or a plan by extraterrestrials to conquer the Earth.

What DOES matter is that the SARS-CoV-2 is here, highly communicable and lethal, and, so far, about 4.3 million people have died from it.

Where it came from will be important once the pandemic is over.

blank_expression · Accepted Answer

I haven’t made a solid connection to Wuhan yet, but given Fauci sent funds there for research and given the damning evidence herein of big pharma with Fauci in the middle of it all, it appears close to a reality. The huge question is; was the CCP in on it?

Followed by the why it is occurring at the superficial level: UPDATE: 7/9/21 This is it all taken from US Patent and Trade Office (PTO) tracking, the most credible thing I have seen. “A Manufactured Illusion. Dr David Martin with Dr. Reiner Fuwllmich” It is still up (7/30), so grab it. https://www.bitchute.com/video/L3zryn6Hm86m/ This explains how big pharma and MSM coordinated it all and is continuing. All covid and vaccines traced as early as ~2001, are in the public PTO record including the “variant.” This is the greatest fraud and crime committed against humanity ever, and we are going to have to live through it. It is Auschwitz being distributed via the needle and then Nuremburg Trials all over again.

I say as this comes out, it will unravel the whole conspiracy and possibly lead to a real war depending on if it was state sponsored.

PinkMichae · Accepted Answer

Well now that President Trump isn't around saying it came from the China lab people can now admit it's true. .

What I think is the Trump administration already knew where it came from and the Biden administration including most mainstream news stations made the public think he was being a xenophobic liar spreading misinformation despite also suspecting it was true.

But the Biden administration and msm are good at calling anything they don't agree with as misinformation even if there's proof it isn't. They know there's enough people that will believe anything they say and not research it. And they know they have the power of social media using fact checkers that only benefits one political ideology.

I mean people got suspended on Twitter for sharing info that the virus was made in the Wuhan lab. Eventually we always find the truth. But by that time it's usually too late to get people to learn the truth.

purplepoppy · Accepted Answer

I don't think we can discard the possibility and but here is the real problem. Right from the start the far right without any evidence pointed the finger purely out off racism and an anti china sentiment. Scientists looked at every possibility but tended to be biased towards the most likely one, bats. Simply because all coronovirus arise from bats and corono is really really good at mutating and jumping species barriers. Occam's razor in action.

Because the china lab theory was linked to the far right scientist wanted to distance themselves from it. They didn't want their careers stained with the association. Should the link be proven wrong then the far right would dismiss the research as fake and forever hold up your research as proof much to your embarrassment.

DJB72 · Answer

I think at this point it doesn't fucking matter.

Get to grips with the numbers. The global death rate is listed as "only" 2%. Just for fun, picture a room with 50 people in it. One of them, statistically, will die of covid. Around 10 others would need hospital treatment, 4 of those (us the one who dies) will need ICU treatment and have long term problems including fatigue, brain function loss, kidney damage, lung damage, amputation of extremities (toes/fingers) because of vascular damage to micro-vascular blood vessels, loss of limb because of secondary infections in the case of diabetes and other chronic diseases. All of those get listed as "recovered" because they aren't dead. Because we aren't dead.

I couldn't care less if it jumped species because some batshit crazy twat ate contaminated flying rodent or if the "great" scientific minds in a lab decided it was a good idea to develop a plague that can mutate to avoid vaccines and kill indiscriminately. I almost died from it. Some of my friends have lost family members from it.

Who cares at this point? I only care if they developed a cure and didn't release it..

Qdbrown · Answer

Well, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it came from Wuhan, where the lab was working on these viruses, that was white washed, no experts were allowed to review what appears to be a massive cover up at the facility, and blamed on bats or some strange little animal. And even the market was washed before it could be studied. Then the Chinese government not taking any responsibility for the virus, but accuse other countries and Trump for being critical and xenophobic.

But the big part is scientist who have studied the virus can tell it was not a natural virus. Quite simply a cold virus that is variant of earlier COVID's with what appears to be a fused version of HIV. Hence why before all the speculation of what to treat it, was actually interferon. A classic HIV medication. It's not a pure HIV virus, nor does it enter the bloodstream sexually, but riding on it's franksteined cold virus cell. With it being a new virus, it had it's new calling card symptoms released a year before the US Elections.

Pyrofox · Answer

I'd say yes that Wuhan lab was reported MULTIPLE times in Trumps presidency to be under supported and under funded. So its kinda not surprising that those bats could be where the Covid jumped species. It wouldn't be the first time infected bat poop lead to a human outbreak of a virus and or bacteria. The Swine Flu is traced to be from bats too. So it is not shocking to me that the lab may have been studying how covid can be trained to jump species. And some moron didn't realize that the agent they were working had a live culture of the Covid and idiotically disposed of a live doesed sample of the virus. Unknownly, particularly if the lab wasn't armed with the tools to detect how far the covid spread throughout it. As its reported in 2017 the lab was severely under staffed and trained to deal with covid.

I wouldn't be surpised if the whole study was to make sure bats weren't going to do just this cause a massive pandemic. After all its no secret that small portions of SE Asia and even China have resorted to bat stew... OwO *vomits*

Floppy2112 · Answer

A lot of people have no idea what the CCP is and what it is capable of. Nor what it did historically. Mao famously said something to the effect of up to half of the Chinese population is disposable.
People are under some mysterious ether where they believed that the CCP went through reform and amended their ways and no longer practice Maoism. Nothing is further from the truth. This is the same CCP that Mao founded, post revolution. All the ideals and dictates of Mao are still in practice today.
It's not only probable that it came from that lab, its possible that the leak happened and the CCP deliberately ignored it to see what would happen.
The fact that people lack the imagination for evil, doesn't mean the evil goes away. And yes, the CCP is evil and they have done and are capable of horrific things. Hell, look at the Uiger-concentration camps. You're dealing with a nation actively committing genocide on a group of people. Re-education they say, my ass.
The CCP is capable of tremendous evil and a disbelief in their willingness to carry that out will be the downfall of the foolish who get in their way.

Alyssa11 · Answer

I genuinely don't believe that such malicious viruses or illnesses are natural and not in fact manmade. Viruses like coronavirus, and illnesses such as cancer, are so malicious and it is against the narrative of mother-nature. To make it worse, to 'fix' this covid-19 situation, we have to take a vaccine, which is ALSO manmade.

I've had the vaccine, so I'm not saying I'm an anti. What I'm saying is we're in this stupid mess, and have been for years and years, and it's all the result of some stupid humans.

molonski2 · Answer

Gee , look at the guys percentage on A?
Yes , I think its pretty dam clear this is not some form of " natural " virus , I still wonder why it was made , and why something stronger was not developed? And what the actual end goal was? Its just too obviously clear that this appears to be man made , and appears to be targeted at particular countries. Why? I really dont understand the end goal , but look what it has taught us about the power of germ warfare? That is my biggest concern , the way its targeted.
It may not have been made in a Lab , with this end goal in mind , but almost certainly it was created in a Lab , no doubt about it.

Oigit · Answer

Look at the influenza virus that causes the flu. It has been mutating for generations. The entire reason that their is a new flu vaccination every year is because it has mutated every new season. So the old vaccine is no longer effective There are many viruses that have created new strains as time has gone on. Also virus mutation is more likely to mutate in a lifeform that it is most compatible with. Think of it as a virus in it's ideal environment much like a human in their dream house. If a viruses ideal environment is a person, the more people infected, the higher chance of a variant being created.

Citizenkirk · Answer

I think it is insanity to say where it was created without evidence or good reason to do so. If a person has specific reasons based on personal observation and personal experiences, that tie that person too that specific location and situation, than that is a legitimate motivation for insisting that that person's account of the source of this issue is relevant, and that they have good reason for making the claims they made regarding where it came from.
What people know, should be the basis on what people think, and the only reason for them too say anything about it.
If an address or location of this lab is available, than than any evidence and witness testimony should be looked into.
If a person has niether, but has specific information that involves this epidemic, than that should also be looked into.

Slartybartfast · Answer

If you actually took the time to read what they are saying.

It's definitely a WILD virus, the question is if it escaped from a lab and was kept quiet, not if it was created in one which would be easily identified as such.

In any case , the conspiracy theories and anti vaccine propaganda are extremely dangerous and have already lead to many deaths that could have been prevented.

Often the same people who put out these conspiracy theories have an AGENDA that benefits from misinformation and it's not one that considers public health.

Consider Fox news has a vaccine passport app and the same people on Fox "news" who are spreading anti vaccine conspiracies are all vaccinated themselves.

backblueblack22 · Answer

I just want the truth. Way back in February 1st 2020 Fauci was given credible information that this was a very real possibility he BURIED IT.

I’m still not ruling out the bat consumption theory. However it’s funny that the lab leak theory is now more likely and just a year ago Facebook would flag people who posted about that as “misinformation.”

Just put the partisan bullshit aside and give the world the truth. If you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this was NOT engineered I’ll accept the data. But now it’s looking like this likely gain of function.

dillbill561 · Answer

While I love this idea because it is objective and says a great deal about the corruption I’ve found a huge problem in burden of proof. Meaning I can go looking for fauci and these other guys science but I cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this so called virus exists or has ever existed in any form, ever. Either can the people claiming there is a yuge pandemic. Calling me a trumptard and science denier doesn’t seem to cut it for me. Therefore the idea of making allegations like this is moot. The idea that governments and people manufacture poisons to be used at different levels in terms of weapons on the other hand is a well founded fact.

RealMarek · Answer

It’s clear at this point that the most likely explanation is a gain-of-function research engineered virus that accidentally escaped the Wuhan lab. However, I would caution against blaming China, as the research was very likely funded by the US as a way to evade the domestic ban on gain-of-function research.

Lliam · Answer

Yes.
Compelling evidence is surfacing that Sars-Cov-2 (covid 19) was the result of gain of function research. I'm guessing that it accidentally escaped from the lab.

There's equally compelling evidence that the thing they call a vaccine (which doesn't fit the medical or legal definition of a vaccine) was developed and patented before the covid-19 virus.

genericname85 · Answer

yeah but it wasn't developed to kill people actually. it was developed to use it as legitimation fo oppressive governmental measures as we see the world over as death rates do not exceed standard mortality rates but governments establish health dictatorships worldwide.

MrMilti · Answer

No.
It most likely came from the Wuhan Lab, but was not created there.

Labs like these research naturally occouring viruses to find out, if those viruses could become a threat in the future.
One used technique is called "gain of function", where you try to make a virus more dangerous, to find out, if it could mutate in nature and jump from animals to humans.

And that's when it probably got leaked, because the security standards in China are just really shitty.

Anonymous · Answer

You wanna know what’s a more important issue instead of believing whether this shit is real or not. It’s that this worthless country is opening up schools even when vaccinated people are getting COVID. This is the governments way of saying we need more pawns so we will force you to take this vaccine to get your degree. But in return for the degree that you have to pay so much for, we will be taking your life in return down the line. And you will live with the effects of this EXPERIMENTAL NON FDA APPROVED vaccine for our future studies. I honestly want things to close down but only for my personal benefit of not having to drive to my school to learn about general education classes that have nothing to do with my career. I hate Biden. I hate trump. I hate America and and it’s filthy people in general.

Browneye57 · Answer

Gee... ya think?
And the vax is not a vax, it's an experimental gene therapy with very dangerous and high incidence of adverse side affects. In fact, if you strip away the deaths "with covid" and leave just deaths "by covid", there are more deaths from the experimental injections. By far.
All of this is being censored where possible.

Anonymous · Answer

I was going to plead with you to do an update, just as an experiment... but instead, I did it for you.

Bee-Hatch · Answer

Ok you can't put up a question like that without evidence for and against what you're proposing. You're just offering hearsay.

monkeynutts · Answer

It’s highly probable, not only China but every developing nation is involved in using it as a weapon against all people’s to consolidate their power wealth and privilege, with the purpose of devastating the social fabric of their societies to destroy and immobilise their enemies. Their lives, and their voices.

gotc147 · Answer

Wait, there are still people who don't think this came from a lab?

elduderinosupreme · Answer

In all honesty I believe it could have come from a virology lab. It caught a rude on a scientist or 2 and hung around. China is not known for following safety protocol well so the chances are high. I'm not saying concretely it caje from a lab but it's highly probably.

Smashingdoozy · Answer

It is basically physically impossible for the virus to be man made. We don't know enough about viruses let alone how to make one pathogenic.

Rachelspiks · Answer

Of course it was created in a lab. Many people suspected this as early as March 2020, but they were all labelled as "right-wing conspiracy theorists" by the lame mainstream media.

Anonymous · Answer

i mean, it's pretty obvious at this point... even from the beginning...

Anonymous · Answer

Its possible but there are still no evidence that the virus came from Wuhan. Some even pointed that its originated from US lab itself. We know that both side have its own political propaganda but I don’t even trust the US government. Blamming China os a big opportunity even for US.

ElizaPam · Answer

“There’s an outbreak of chocolately goodness in Hershey, PA, How did this happen? Maybe a steam shovel got it on white a cocoa bean or maybe it was the FUCKING CHOCOLATE FACTORY” -Jon Stewart

justlookin69 · Answer

I believe it was part of a biological experiment that got mishandled. And in its incomplete form, got released incidentally to what we’re experiencing now unfortunately.

humanearth · Answer

That was proven a while ago. What shocking is that USA, UK, and Russia all paid to be part of it. They want to control the world population and rule over everyone that lives. You think you seen bad, the worse lie is about to begin

Babygirl_S · Answer

It was created to ruin the economy of the US and Europe 😒

sawno · Answer

I already said that in the first half of 2020. People didn't want to believe me.

Curmudgeon · Answer

And the facts are in. It WAS from a Red China lab. Probably accidentally, but it was!

Anonymous · Answer

lol, if you believe that conspiracy theory you spend too much time on the internet, and need to log off lol Don't be a sheep, don't believe every idiotic conspiracy theory on the internet.

Frank_Woods · Answer

China lies about trade. China lies about covid cases. China lies about slave labor. I'm not surprised if China lies about covid's origin.

Minamikun · Answer

There's no real proof that this variant of SARS COV virus started in Wuhan and mainlty, there's no proof that this virus was made in labs

Saying that it is a fair statement, you are judging something without knowing absolutely nothing

Tiptoetamm · Answer

I had suspicions about it in the beginning. We probably never really know

Interstate · Answer

It WAS revealed that it was man-made for the purpose of wiping out as much as the world as possible. So I would say YES it was.

Surely · Answer

It is even looking like one or more of our “experts “ were involved in the research, development and financing.

cjmtherfcker · Answer

No, its absolutely impossible for the Coronavirus, to have come out of the wuhan corona virus lab. Just impossible, you got to be an idiot to believe something as simple as that

smalldictact · Answer

China is the responsible for creating Covid virus. That's the fact and that's the truth. We always blame Muslims for creating terrorism but China is the who successfully created all the havoc.

CreamySeed · Answer

Viruses are clever little bastards there are far more dangerous viruses out there than Rona but that isn't to say gain of function research isn't a thing and having patient zero so close to the wuhan virology center should raise some eyebrows

captain_voidwalker · Answer

You mean the shit we knew was true last year turned out to be... true. Shocker

Phoenix98 · Answer

We know it was the virus was traced back to a lab and we have or rather had multiple testifying as such Chinese scientists well before they vanished.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

Not according to 99% of those who voted for Biden, because they are not allowed to think that.

andreasderjuengere · Answer

I seriously don't care where it came from. I'm more interested in where it leads to.

Marhaban-1 · Answer

Yes as they develop bilohial weapons near the city and all off a sudden a new structure of virus appears. It's all too suspicious

FireFox001 · Answer

I don't think it was created there, but it surely escaped from there. Covid is not a good biological weapon candidate, so it's not likely that they have specifically created it.

Anonymous · Answer

The farsight institute a remote viewing company looked into it. Yeah it was made in a lab. These people are good and trustworthy.

rjroy3 · Answer

Imagine being someone in 2021 who still thinks it wasn't 😂

Anonymous · Answer

Yes, and I also think it's fair to say that this immoral DNA-altering, population-reducing drug injection (that some are calling a "vaccine")... was created BEFORE the release of COVID. A very nasty evil world we live in, YEAH?

ItsMeItsMe1989 · Answer

I think republicans will believe anything they're told You probably also still believe trump won, don't you

OddBeMe · Answer

What evidence do we have? Nothing but innuendo. Learn the difference.

Guardian45 · Answer

Yes, it is a bioweapon which was made by biolabs in the US, Canada, France and China. Welcome to the global economy!

Albertanazi · Answer

1000% correct! Kung Flu came from a lab in Chynuh, and was deliberately unleashed by their cunt people!

Asianguy123 · Answer

I believe that Chinese communism is to blame. They made it and they don’t know how to handle it so it got out.

NightHawk99 · Answer

I'm not denying anything, but I would like to see this proof before we blindly accuse China of anything.

Anonymous · Answer

I would say something but judging by the comments from both sides forget it, I’m not gonna say anything.

Anonymous · Answer

There's nothing but conjecture, speculation, and conspiracy theories so far. Let me know when you irrefutable proof.

Ryfyle · Answer

Yep, it's time to clean out the feds and glass China. their 5000 years of history needs to end now.

Anonymous · Answer

not. If so, why wasn't it produced before? They ask the man if it was produced in 2019, right?

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