Do you think Russia and Ukraine will ever really go to war?

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They have been talking about it for weeks

European4Ever · Accepted Answer

Yes, the United States would have gone to war over Cuba in the 1960s. Russia is willing to do whatever is needed to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO and all the factors happening make it so there hasn't been a better time. Any sanctions powerful enough to truly hurt Russia Russia can't be intimidated because they won worse by outlasting enemies like Napoleon and Hitler. Any sanctions will hurt the European Union much more than Russia, especially in winter, and especially this winter with energy reserves already low and inflation. The US and EU pushed Belarus under President Lukashenko closer to reunification with Russia. If Putin backs down, he loses reputation and all other leaders will lose respect for him. Every other great power is watching, not just the US. That means the EU, the UK, Japan, India, and China. It also means regional powers like Turkey, Iran, and others. If the EU crashes, it will bring down the world. If the EU and US eventually need to repeal harsh sanctions then they will lose respect, and if their own people are harmed financially, it will end the careers of politicians and the loss of power for many political parties. Europeans riot for less, and if sanctions on Russia resulted in higher energy prices and higher inflation, it would be mass riots until people forced politicians to end sanctions. Putin realistically will go to war because it's both a national security issue, pride, it was Russian territory for at least several centuries and has a common historical origin, and there hasn't been a better time. Russia also has the wealth, technology, resources, military might, nuclear weapons, and a wealthy trade partner (China) that makes them able to make a move. Russia isn't a realistic threat to anyone unless provoked which is what the US and NATO has been doing since the West's regime change in Ukraine. China actively has much more power and wealth in the world but relies on imports for raw materials and food from mainly Russia. There's no containing China without Russia as an ally and the West's actions, mainly US and NATO, after the Cold War ended any chance of an alliance with Russia happening. Politicians in the West never think long-term because their jobs are always at risk and unpopular opinions if correct are risky. Now, Russia will almost certainly have a military action to solve their Ukraine problem.

ChrisMaster69 · Accepted Answer

There has been a war going on since the Crimea invasion.

There has been a UK Op on since 2015 to upskill the Ukrainian military

https://medium.com/voices-of-the-armed-forces/operation-orbital-explained-training-ukrainian-armed-forces-59405d32d604

Also this extends far beyond Ukraine, Baltic states etc and it has a long history about the Russians warm sea port access.

I doubt very much will happen, however there is a lot of Russian propaganda hitting social media.

It’s not just Ukraine that has governments nervous, the Russian navy is also holding major exercises etc all around Russia and its interests https://news.usni.org/2022/01/21/russian-navy-announces-more-major-fleet-exercises-as-drills-end-with-china-iran

Exercises are not cheap, also it’s a lot of naval forces to warm up at the same time.

While I personally don’t think anything will happen, there is a lot going on which means a lot could happen as Russian, Iranian and Chinese ships would be at sea.

Aerissa_Jade · Accepted Answer

I think it won't be a war, more like an overrun, and then Russia will have elections saying 99% of people in Ukraine wanted to join them anyways and it was a peaceful regime change.

LovingJo · Accepted Answer

If putin has anything to do with it, yes. But it will be a huge mistake on his part!! 💯

BCA6010 · Answer

Historically speaking, there are very few if any countries/regions that have seen more wars come and go than Ukraine. It has favorable resources and geography, and has been treated as a buffer state for centuries.

In my opinion, they won't ever enter a full-blown war with each other, and Ukraine would surrender another chunk of itself or make some kind of concession before facing devastation. It's also not in Russia's best interests for a major conflict especially when they're simultaneously being drawn into military operations in Kazakhstan at the request of an actual Ally. Russia's logistics and economic capabilities simply can't support a prolonged conflict on one front let alone two, and they aren't willing to bankrupt themselves in the trillions for nothing like the US is. Judging by how Joe Biden has basically given them the green light to do something small scale, and Angela Merkel is trying to block other European countries from even sending equipment much less getting involved directly, it's pretty safe to say Ukraine appears to be getting thrown under the bus.

Gal67 · Answer

Not really, no. If they did, what would be the primary objective? The grabbing of slivers of land in the East? The occupation and annexation of half of it? Going all the way to Kiev and swallowing up the whole country?
It's strange how the media in the West never talks about that. What would be the goals, the purpose of it all? If it's the absorption of Ukraine by Russia, what then? With a mere 100,000 troops, what would Putin hope to accomplish? In order to fully occupy the place he'd need at least 300,000. It's a big country, with a large population (41.2 million people).
The truth is that I believe that if a war did break out, Russia would lose (i. e. they wouldn't achieve their objectives in a timely manner). The number of deaths on both sides would be high, and with the British and Americans now sending both special forces and weapons to Ukraine, it would probably suck in the rest of Europe. At that moment, on the other side of the globe (yes Flat-Earthers, the Earth is a globe) the Chinese would launch their attack upon Taiwan.

MuddyMole · Answer

They already are at war, and have been since 2014 - so far it has claimed about 13,000 lives.
You're not going to see a big pitched battle, and you're not going to see foreign countries like the US sending in troops to defend Ukraine - expect a continuation and possible escalation of the proxy war instead.
Russia will support pro-Russia Ukrainian fighters by providing weapons and equipment, and limited direct intervention by sending so-called "little green men" - soldiers who wear unmarked uniforms, so Russia can deny any involvement, as well as private military contractors (ie. mercenaries - it's not just the US that uses them).
The West (the US and UK in particular) will provide weapons, training and intelligence to the pro-Ukraine forces, but will not directly intervene.

NathanDavis · Answer

I do not think so, no...

Russia cannot afford a "war" of this magnitude, their oligarchs won't be happy to pay for the consequences or this "war" nor the Russian people... Putin would lose too much and gain nothing considerable, he's way smarter than that

a different question would be... could there be a repeat of Crimea on the Donetsk or Luhansk region? maybe that could be possible since Ukraine has neglected some regions for too long, and the pro-Russian population is well spread all over the country

and this is a much greater and complex conflict than Russia just invading and going to war because Putin says so... lol

LZPanzer · Answer

I'm nearly certain that war will happen. Putin has everything to gain and nothing to lose

Putin gains more access to shipping sea lanes and oil field in Ukraine.

Bonus : if Putin invades and the US does not intervene he makes Biden look weak to us allies and us population. Not to mention he gets the above for basically free.

If the US does intervene he knows we are going to be stuck in another quagmire (Ukraine has a bunch of Russian supporters) additionally the US population has little appetite for war and after the covid pandemic broke our economy we really can't afford to attempt to rebuild Ukraine.

Second bonus: politically Putin benefits much more if Trump would regain the whites house so trowing egg at trumps rivals is a win in his book.

Citizenkirk · Answer

Try telling the Russian Federation that Ukraine doesn't already belong to them it's like trying to tell the Chinese government that Taiwan and Tibet don't belong to them, you have a better chance winning an argument with a big rock, then you will getting through to them administrative knuckleheads.

RolandCuthbert · Answer

Its funny how folks in the Western society see things. Dude, Ukraine and Russia have been at war for years. And I have loved ones on both sides of this conflict over there right now.

alice55 · Answer

They wouldn't, there's more to lose than to gain in securing a war. It's nearly sure to end up as a new world war if they do declare war considering Europe will side with Ukraine (and maybe America too?). So there's really no point for either of both county to declare a war. Just some big tension. Kind of like a new cold war in a sense.

oddwaffle · Answer

They are already at war for years since 2014 and haven't ended since. Guns blazing throughout the night with militias forming a defensive lines. People get shot and die every year.

Most of the fights were carried by red necks with guns. Like those 2nd amendment peeps in the US. They were disavowed but still doing it anyways.

They slowed down a bit during the 2020s with deaths in double digits but they are picking up again with Russia shoring up the troops.

GreenLanternI0I · Answer

100% and I am not going to go into politics corruption or pick sides. All I'm going to do here, is I will state a logical question to you all. Imagine if Mexico or Canada decided to join Russian Federation, how do you think United States would react?

CreamySeed · Answer

As an American I hope Slow Joe Brandon in the white house doesn’t forget to eat his chocolate puddin in the morning, get grouchy and drag us into war with an old nuclear adversary. Honestly fuck Ukraine it’s none of our business this is how world wars develop, entangled alliances. Rest assured a nuclear war will result if shit gets bad and it will kill millions maybe even billions. Humanity is only two generations from the last world war and we didn't learn shit.

noohair · Answer

War is a complete waste of resources but it make certain people very rich. I live in the US and I don't see any great strategic need to be involved in any way. This is a European thing. Europeans consider themselves to be better than Americans. Let them spill their blood, not ours.

Slartybartfast · Answer

Putin wa ts another price of Ukraine and to make it a puppet State. He tried to install a puppet leader. He's really good at manipulation of elections and advancing PROPAGANDA. Look what he did to the USA pushing trump and his LIES!

Tylerstevenson1974 · Answer

Sadly it looks to be trending on that direction. Russia has stockpiled all the weapons and troops they will need. What’s worse is that Putin has put himself in a place where he can’t easily back down.

JDAC2209199 · Answer

I hope not because then everyone else might join in and the world may end or countries might disappear and that'd be sad.

BlackUrsidae · Answer

I think Putin is trying to see how much he can get away with without actually committing to it. An invasive of Ukraine would have a high chance of starting WWII, there's no way he doesn't know that

jshm2 · Answer

Dont be silly. Russia isn't a manic nation like the USA.  The problem isn't Ukraine or Russia. Its EU and US interests in the region.

strateguy632 · Answer

There has been a war there since 2014! the Crimea invasion by Russia.

Anonymous · Answer

Forever is a long time. I don't think its going to happen any time soon, this is just sabre rattling.

VikingWarLord · Answer

It's nothing more than SABRE-RATTLING  to distract you from them destroying the economy and bringing in their GREAT RESET

Fuentes · Answer

Probably not because the whole world is going to be on thag and Russia may just have to put in a plant to be voted in as President and then denounce all western involvement.

Dargil · Answer

I really don't care. It is none of the USA's business. We have no duty to Ukraine.

-Asca- · Answer

No, because while it's in Russias interest to put pressure on the west they don't really have much to gain from an actual war.

rabbitzzz · Answer

They are at war, Russia took Crimea and actively arming seperatists in Donetsk.

Jamie05rhs · Answer

Russia is greedy and they want this bad. They are just waiting for the best chance to strike.

anylolone · Answer

Technically they are already at war. Except it's fought through militias. That war isn't going to become a different kind of war either.

mrkdvsn · Answer

USA may be the nation attacked, due to our interference in Russia's affairs. I REALLY hope that we BACK OFF

Cubus · Answer

Sadly they will. Which makes me anxious as I'm Polish.

Wise4myage · Answer

That weasel Putin sure is putting a lot of effort into it.

Staximus · Answer

They need to sit down and drink some vodka together

007kingifrit · Answer

yes i think russia will invade very soon, next few weeks

LegendaryIcon · Answer

i don't think they will but, there will be a lot of tension

888theGreat · Answer

I think Russia will just walk in and hardly no fighting.

Better_off_here · Answer

with the way the world is i would not be surprised about it.

Mister_Hangry · Answer

Why don't they hurry the hell up and pop this war off? Humanity needs a reset.

mddie · Answer

I think the Russian government still have grudges against Them

DaveJord · Answer

I think they have been at war for years, already.

Agape93 · Answer

Absolutely. Within a few years tops.

needhelpwiththis0 · Answer

I think it would stop at some point

unwokewoke · Answer

Eventually yes. Russia wants Ukraine.

KatherineJ · Answer

I hope not. But it looks like they will.

CaptainSmartass · Answer

Possibly. Simples...

ManHater · Answer

Just get it over with fight.

Twalli · Answer

Ukraine doesn't want war.

Gwenhwyfar · Answer

Not sure

Minahh · Answer

Hopefully they won't

legalboxers · Answer

without a doubt...

JohnK123 · Answer

Probably

msc545 · Answer

No they will not

monaflowers · Answer

I hope not :(

sezooo · Answer

İ don't think so

jackReed · Answer

No, they won't.

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