Russia And Ukraine Tensions Rising?

Question

Russia sent almost its entire army to the border
*False, The Russians have over 3 million armed forces. They sent 100,000.
Putin wants to take Ukraine completely.
*Let him. We have no strategic interest in Ukraine, except Hunter Biden. They are not in NATO and we have no defense agreement or obligation.
*Ukraine was the bread basket of the Russia. We have no business there.

NamerOfStars · Accepted Answer

You know, in the run-up to the American Revolution, there were many voices asking why the King didn't just give the colonists some seats in Parliament, so they could have the representation they wanted. George didn't, because his hold on the throne was very shaky (the Georges were Germans, not Englishmen, brought in to rule because the English royal line had been wiped out, and they were the closest surviving relatives), and the thought of negotiating with an armed mob would've been anathema to, say, Catherine the great (the German ruling Russia at the time) or Frederick the great (the German ruling Prussia at the time). Also, the thousand deaths from Breed's Hill were hard to ignore.

But suppose he'd powered through and done it anyway. With the main complaint resolved, the whole crisis would've fizzled away- there would still have been voices crying for independence, but they'd've been a distinct minority- and while the hold on the throne would've weakened, it would've pushed England towards a more democratic society and government (which is pretty much how they've wound up anyway; I don't think anyone can say the UK is in a monarchy in anything more than name). George the third could've wound up as a shining model of a ruler in line with Enlightenment ideals.

Putin could've done much the same. The geographical realities (the distance from Warsaw to Moscow is pretty much just a flat, open plain) mean that Russian leadership inherently has to be a bit saber-rattly, I don't deny it, but the man still clings to the ideas of the Brehznev Doctrine long after Russia's lost the capability to enforce them. Suppose, in 2014, he'd come forward- perhaps at the UN, perhaps at some other venue- and started a dialogue about Georgia. Many of those people saw themselves as culturally Russian, and wanted to be part of Russia. Trying to find a way to redraw border lines (and, let's not kid ourselves, see a return of Russian glory) WITHOUT bathing the land the in blood would've seen him rise as a new kind of leader, ready to accept the realities of building up your nation, rather than just building a mountain of skulls.

Instead, he simply invades. Then backstabs Ukraine, using freedom of movement granted by international treaties to position his troops to violate the Geneva Conventions (sorry, Vlad; sending your troops in wearing enemy uniforms is STILL a war crime) to seize Crimea. Now it's gearing up to happen again. Maybe we should just expand NATO to include Russia.

libsaretards · Accepted Answer

The U. S., Europe and NATO only have 2 real options:

A: Get some balls and stop Russia now with a united front and protect Ukraine and gain a new NATO member. We could stop them and make them realize the fight is not worth it before China and North Korea get involved.

OR

B: Let Russia take Ukraine. This would embolden Russia to push for more territory. This would also show China and North Korea that the West is weak. They might form an alliance and cause a new World War.

In the eyes of China and North Korea, they are probably just watching and calculating how the West will react. If these 2 nations see Russia can have their way with little real resistance (economic sanctions do not mean shit North Korea is proof of this) then they might feel emboldened to join Russia to take over the West. This would be a good strategic move as then China could defeat a weakened Russia after the West is destroyed, making China the rulers of the world. This nightmare can be avoided, or at least delayed, if the West acts NOW to stop Russia. Even if this does not stop them, we would have another country as an ally because Ukraine would then feel safe to join NATO. The only reason they have not joined yet is because they view America as weak, which we are under this idiot called Biden.

CrazyGirl2 · Accepted Answer

I could not give a shit about Ukraine! And if ONE US service man dies because of fucking Ukraine, when China is literally trying to destroy the entire economic engine of the US, I will be pissed! What’s worse is nobody except for the dickhead former president, nobody seems to give a fuck that china is trying to take over as the world reserve currency! I’m so fucking sick of news and politics.

Lillie_xo · Accepted Answer

you did not just say British president
prime minister
bojo is the prime minister
even if he shouldn't be

but anyway i hope somebody does something about it otherwise russia will just keep up this bullshit
rn its ukraine thats the victim of it but who knows whats next

Dargil · Answer

Russia sent almost its entire army to the border
*False, The Russians have over 3 million armed forces. They sent 100,000.
Putin wants to take Ukraine completely.
*Let him. We have no strategic interest in Ukraine, except Hunter Biden. They are not in NATO and we have no defense agreement or obligation.
*Ukraine was the bread basket of the Russia. We have no business there.

AncientWisdom · Answer

Yes I figure it will be right after the Olympics in China. That ole Chinese President and him are working this together. So he ain’t gonna want to steal oh Xi Ping thunder from getting the Olympics in his country. If it’s gonna happen it will happen right after that is my opinion. As j in n all opinions I could be wrong.

Dragonpurple · Answer

I do not care, don't think we should get in it other than the US was part of the treaty to guarantee their integrity if they gave up their nukes but that was a lie, as Obama showed that back in 2014. That the US does not honor treaties.

The only real concern I have is, will this be another appeasement situation, just let us have Ukraine but a few years down the road, need another country.

Slartybartfast · Answer

Yep, Putin being Putin. If he had Ukraine, he would be looking at Poland. He wants ALL the territory of the former USSR and has said so many times. He has more trolls online than troops on the border promoting his propaganda. Look a comrade Tukkker Carlson. A total Russian asset.

Citizenkirk · Answer

The reason those countries became a republic in the first place is because they were always fighting so I say let them fight it out

andreasderjuengere · Answer

I don't see the question here.
I might be willing to die -in defense- for my family or friends. But I give no damn about which flags are fluttering around my home.
Some 30 years ago they were all ''Soviet Union'' and more or less happy with it. Where is the difference NOW?
It's silly to believe that ''my nationality'' makes a difference in what assholes try to rule over me. The names may change; the idea remains the same.

rabbitzzz · Answer

Fking fk. As if corona wasn't enough. Worlds biggest nuclear armed countries are talking about a hot war. Putin has taken crimea and donbass what more does he want. He suppressed a revolution in Kazakhstan, kept Assad's ass floating.

I still think big war will be avoided but Ukraine will be divided among key players.

Likes2drive · Answer

Must be some reason why they want it, more land more problems if there is no natural resources for them to use

Anonymous · Answer

All of this bullshit is being cooked up by CIA propagandists so that when the Russians fail to invade (because they weren't planning to anyway), this can be spun as some big foreign policy W for Biden to distract from the shitshow that has been the first year of his presidency.

Gal67 · Answer

"Russia sent almost its entire army to the border"
Oh dear. Okay, look, that's nonsense. According to the latest reports, he's sent approx. 120,000, which is NOT his entire army!
Russia is the largest nation on earth, and because of that he can't send his entire army to face off the Ukrainians; he has to keep quite a lot in reserve, just in case.

Anonymous · Answer

What Russia has, President Biden will send double, Putin is testing Biden's patience and he is ready to act

MrCommodore · Answer

Russia understandably doesn't want NATO on its borders, particularly the Ukrainian border and shores of the black sea.

DWornock · Answer

Obviously, the OP believe our media and politicians.

WhiteBoyChill · Answer

Russia does not have almost its entirely military ready to invade

rocksongwriter · Answer

I watched this recently and felt it was informative...

BeenThereLovedIt · Answer

I say this is diplomatic jockeying, saber rattling, the same same.

VikingWarLord · Answer

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kellytheman · Answer

Yeah I am a little worried. I think if Russia invades Ukraine WW3 is gonna break out and countries will be divided.

OddBeMe · Answer

I’m wondering why. What’s in it for Putin? His economy is getting blasted by sanctions.

LegendaryIcon · Answer

and republicans love this why? THEY'RE RUSSIAN

harrison102 · Answer

I’m sure Russia has 1.5 million troops 😂 not 94 thousand

OlderAndWiser · Answer

Putin is dangerous to the free world.

888theGreat · Answer

Russia has 135,000 troops on border

disgustingweebtrash · Answer

Nothingburger unironically

grega239 · Answer

94k soldiers is almost its entire army?

Waldoe · Answer

did you have a Question? I do not see one...

Jouth · Answer

pincer flanking maneuver

JesseJayNeak · Answer

It’s the Russian revolution all over again

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