Are you saying these behaviors are appropriate for an adult s long as that adult is not male?
Im just not sure why this is directed at Men. This seems like basic growing p stuff people have to deal with or choose not to but end up making really shitty partners friends employees etc.
I dont have a problem with the points except i dont see how they should be limited to mean. im sure grown men -or women- would not want these traits in a grown woman.
I agree with the emotional parts. If he's always emotional and especially angry, you've got a potentially abusive guy on your hands. Every story I've heard where the woman was abused, the guy was always a huge gigantic toddler who had tantrums. I don't really agree with the rest or with the reasons why, but if he's emotional then watch out for instability! So true. lots of people on here are used to sexism debates... they don't really put a lot into different contexts, like real life.
And I hate how people say you're 17 so this post is stupid. And some of them are younger than you lol, so I don't know how that makes sense. But although I don't agree with most of this, IRL I wish the women I've known who had abusive bfs thought like this, because maybe they would have avoided him. Standards might be sexist sometimes but that doesn't mean they're worse than drama or dating an immature guy.
These are a mix between being a good person (respecting people for example) and number 4 that might as well say "You can't always get your own way with him". Some even contradict each other - doesn't argue but is assertive (#2)?
I think you have no idea how to tell if you're dating a mature man or not because you have no idea what you actually want.
I agree with everything but number 6. I don't see why a man can't learn new things if he wants to expand his skills and knowledge. You say-if he has to learn then he's still a boy-so what you can't learn new things throughout life like what if he wanted to try guitar or a new sport? Nobody in this world knows every single thing sooo... you get where I'm coming from
The first thing that came into mind was; "conservative", "preconceptions", and "contradictory".
Then i looked at your age and thought; "i hope she's only being provocative to stir up a little discussion."
If not, then yóu are the one who still has to learn a lot.
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I'm so sick of girls who think they can tell men what a man is.
Now considering that your still a child who thinks oral sex is 'gross', your say is worth nothing.
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LOL. This is why I prefer to stay single, because women like you have standards so high. We are all not perfect, so if this is how you think about all men, good luck. I'd rather find a laid back woman who plays video games, and doesn't take everything seriously. Holla.
you're a girl, not a woman. instead of growing up and learn to be independent, you want to find a new daddy. an ideal daddy, who can fix anything, will always condescend to his little daughter, will "get punched" for her... such a man will never waste his time on you. grow up instead. nobody will work for you and fix all your problems. even though you're a woman and disney movies taught you otherwise. sorry
I don't want any woman like you. You have no idea what a relationship is, you are a little girl who is a spoiled brat.
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w1. So what? Not every man is a repairman. 2. Some guys are submissive, they like assertive girls, opposites attract. 3. Nope, some guys are just passive, but not aggressive. 4. Nah, submissive guys usually give in to a strong woman. 5. Most people are like that. 6. Not true. 7. It's vice versa too, in lots of cases. 8. Not way, never. 9. I don't like conflicts, but I can handle them if necessary. 10. False again. 11. I'm not a pessimist, just a realist.
Lol change the pronouns around and it sounds like my ex to a T (except #7)! Now I don't really care if my woman can't fix anything or isn't very assertive, but all the rest on there yea it doesn't make for a very good woman...
Ther's no general definition of a "man"... A real man is simply someone who's got your back and will be there for you when things get tough. It's someone you can count on. Just like a real woman (not a girl) is the same thing for guys.
I can fix things up and what not. But I promise if i were to say the difference between a woman and a girl is that a woman can cook, while a girl can't.
I wouldn't be. I think all adults should be able to cook, and all adults should be able to assemble an IKEA book case. It doesn't need to be a gender thing.
Mostly true. You contradict yourself no.4 is completely contradictory of 9 and 2. You want a real alpha male that kicks ass and takes names on a daily basis but one that bows down to your will and puts your pussy on a high pedestal. Goodluck with that lol
You do realise you've just described all the stereotypical female qualities. So what you're really saying, is that you hate women, and you can't stand to be with your self :P
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Don't get me wrong. I only agree to some degree, like with most things. I'm going as far as saying the major half of what you listed is true and is applicable. The other minor half is - in my opinion - flawed. But still, good job on that take. Don't be surprised if we get the message possibly the wrong way (such as how Mesonfielde responded).
So you think he should be assertive and not passive aggressive, but also not try to win arguments with women and "deal with" conflict by sticking around?
At make your take consistent with itself before you write it...
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Are you saying these behaviors are appropriate for an adult s long as that adult is not male?
Im just not sure why this is directed at Men. This seems like basic growing p stuff people have to deal with or choose not to but end up making really shitty partners friends employees etc.
I dont have a problem with the points except i dont see how they should be limited to mean. im sure grown men -or women- would not want these traits in a grown woman.
I agree with the emotional parts. If he's always emotional and especially angry, you've got a potentially abusive guy on your hands. Every story I've heard where the woman was abused, the guy was always a huge gigantic toddler who had tantrums. I don't really agree with the rest or with the reasons why, but if he's emotional then watch out for instability! So true. lots of people on here are used to sexism debates... they don't really put a lot into different contexts, like real life.
And I hate how people say you're 17 so this post is stupid. And some of them are younger than you lol, so I don't know how that makes sense. But although I don't agree with most of this, IRL I wish the women I've known who had abusive bfs thought like this, because maybe they would have avoided him. Standards might be sexist sometimes but that doesn't mean they're worse than drama or dating an immature guy.
These are a mix between being a good person (respecting people for example) and number 4 that might as well say "You can't always get your own way with him". Some even contradict each other - doesn't argue but is assertive (#2)?
I think you have no idea how to tell if you're dating a mature man or not because you have no idea what you actually want.
I agree with everything but number 6.
I don't see why a man can't learn new things if he wants to expand his skills and knowledge. You say-if he has to learn then he's still a boy-so what you can't learn new things throughout life like what if he wanted to try guitar or a new sport? Nobody in this world knows every single thing sooo... you get where I'm coming from
The first thing that came into mind was; "conservative", "preconceptions", and "contradictory".
Then i looked at your age and thought; "i hope she's only being provocative to stir up a little discussion."
If not, then yóu are the one who still has to learn a lot.
I'm so sick of girls who think they can tell men what a man is.
Now considering that your still a child who thinks oral sex is 'gross', your say is worth nothing.
LOL. This is why I prefer to stay single, because women like you have standards so high. We are all not perfect, so if this is how you think about all men, good luck. I'd rather find a laid back woman who plays video games, and doesn't take everything seriously. Holla.
When your bae says you ain't a man cuz you can't "put together an IKEA bookshelf":
https://i.imgflip.com/2/zqd9i.jpg
you're a girl, not a woman. instead of growing up and learn to be independent, you want to find a new daddy. an ideal daddy, who can fix anything, will always condescend to his little daughter, will "get punched" for her... such a man will never waste his time on you. grow up instead. nobody will work for you and fix all your problems. even though you're a woman and disney movies taught you otherwise. sorry
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I don't want any woman like you. You have no idea what a relationship is, you are a little girl who is a spoiled brat.
w1. So what? Not every man is a repairman.
2. Some guys are submissive, they like assertive girls, opposites attract.
3. Nope, some guys are just passive, but not aggressive.
4. Nah, submissive guys usually give in to a strong woman.
5. Most people are like that.
6. Not true.
7. It's vice versa too, in lots of cases.
8. Not way, never.
9. I don't like conflicts, but I can handle them if necessary.
10. False again.
11. I'm not a pessimist, just a realist.
Lol change the pronouns around and it sounds like my ex to a T (except #7)! Now I don't really care if my woman can't fix anything or isn't very assertive, but all the rest on there yea it doesn't make for a very good woman...
Ther's no general definition of a "man"... A real man is simply someone who's got your back and will be there for you when things get tough. It's someone you can count on. Just like a real woman (not a girl) is the same thing for guys.
LOL AT NUMBER 1.
I can fix things up and what not. But I promise if i were to say the difference between a woman and a girl is that a woman can cook, while a girl can't.
a lot of girls would be pissed the fuck off
I wouldn't be. I think all adults should be able to cook, and all adults should be able to assemble an IKEA book case. It doesn't need to be a gender thing.
Mostly true. You contradict yourself no.4 is completely contradictory of 9 and 2. You want a real alpha male that kicks ass and takes names on a daily basis but one that bows down to your will and puts your pussy on a high pedestal. Goodluck with that lol
It's comical in the extreme to read a list written by a girl who isn't yet a woman telling guys what it means to be a man.
You do realise you've just described all the stereotypical female qualities. So what you're really saying, is that you hate women, and you can't stand to be with your self :P
Don't get me wrong.
I only agree to some degree, like with most things.
I'm going as far as saying the major half of what you listed is true and is applicable.
The other minor half is - in my opinion - flawed.
But still, good job on that take.
Don't be surprised if we get the message possibly the wrong way (such as how Mesonfielde responded).
I suppose that makes you a little girl. Guess you don't get a man...
So you think he should be assertive and not passive aggressive, but also not try to win arguments with women and "deal with" conflict by sticking around?
At make your take consistent with itself before you write it...