Interesting definiton of "guys" that you're using here. Usually "guys" refers to "grown up male humans", but your definition quite apparently translates to "misogynistic bitter incels with zero real life experience with women other than their own mom and what other misogynistic bitter incels on reddit told them about them." You incels are the most delusional losers on the planet, and your circle jerk mentality will ensure that you won't ever improve.
Once a man stops rewarding bad behaviour, the bad girls will either change their ways, or (more likely) not change, and he can then cut them off completely-- leaving only the good ones left standing when all is said and done.
People generally will regress to the minimum standard of behaviour they feel they can get away with. If you communicate in some way that you have a low standard of behaviour, then you'll get trampled over and your heart ripped apart by mean-spirited bitches and hoes. But if you communicate a HIGH standard of behaviour, and are willing to walk away from any girl who fails those standards... then you won't have to deal with all the problematic behaviour you mentioned, because the girls acting that way will be ejected from your life so fast they won't know what hit em lol
Of course they will, because emotionally they are reactive, and don't know how to deal with a proactive man telling them what's what. But if the man gets reactive to her every whim and demand, then he's lost right out the gate.
isn't that what happens anyway? which is why a woman can get "upset" over anything... for any reason, and "punish" the guy... those words dont even exist in my vocabulary if its not legit. Like if i happened to look at another woman and she gets "upset"... most guys would start scrambling, trying to apologize and "fix" a problem that never actually existed. No... i'd tell the bitch to kiss my ass. Id give her MORE of a reason to be "upset"... im not solving a crime that was never committed. she wants to be mad, she can stay mad, then she tries to Punish for a crime you never committed, No Pussy, lol... thats fine... there are other bitches out there. I just have to pick up my phone.
my point exactly :D they're just conditioned by all the men who put up with their shit and kiss their ass. It seems so foreign to them that a man could just up and leave and not come back if she starts turning psycho lol. Too many men are way too permissive of shitty treatment from women, but by tolerating it, they just encourage more of it.
Yes!!! Yes!!! and then the men try to justify it as what? chivalry? a thing women themselves killed because they want to Become men. I talk a bunch of shit about women and how they dont give a fuck about a male perspective, but I've always kept my eye on the Real culprits... these Bitch-made men/ fucking white knights... who think that just because She said, or She wants, its the right thing to do... now because of them, women can come up with ANY fucking thing and make it some requirement. About 40 years ago, it was a privilege for women to even be LOOKED AT by a man, now, guys can't even get a word in. these ain't my stories... i just watch these things happen. i watch my co-worker get shot down so bad (drinks after work) that it made fall back... and it pulled up my inner demon... i wanted to approach her... get her number... be her perfect kind of man... then just when she thinks she has found "the one"... dump her. Yes, im a little bastard too... to those who deserve it.
"then they try to fire back... like its supposed to hurt."
MGTOW valuable lesson calls it the shaming language because they didn't get what they wanted similar to A child not getting it's candy by the checkout point.
I 100% agree with not rewarding bad behavior, although we may as well be seen as MGTOW or as they say "bitter virgin loser, who can't get a girlfriend" since this applies quite often enough.
@Unit1 Difference with MGTOW is they just give up full stop. I'm talking about being hyper-proactive in one's dating life, but also having an equivalent uptick in one's willingness to punish bad behaviour or walk away from women who refuse to change their bad behaviour. Meeting more women would necessitate turning away more women also, simply by virtue of the increased volume increasing demands on one's time and energy. If you're talking to 30 girls at any one time, and 19 are giving you shit, then it's economical for you to just cut out the 19 bad ones and see how the remaining 11 measure up. Of course there's a human element and it's not just a "numbers game" purely, but the economics of the scenario favour the man when he has many options. If he has no options (either by incompetence, ie: "incel", or by non-participation, ie: "MGTOW"), then the numbers won't favour him, and he'll be more likely to accept bad behavior from the women who show initial interest.
Except MGTOW doesn't accept any shit from women. It's over. Although you could question whether they are truly going their own way when some of them bitch about women much more often than you or i do.
@Unit1 sorry, gotta go with Tom here... when i first heard of MGTOW... i thought it was amazing... but then i saw something... they were still guys... they rallied because of a common issue... thought women were just something.. but i watched them get picked off out of it when they got a "gf"... so i MGTOW'ed, i went MY own Muthaeffin way. or should I say MGHOW...(man going his own way) i just rewrote the fucking system... turns out... its fucking better than MGTOW... Im not fighting fire with fire with the new DDS... Im fighting Her fire with HER fire lol... so if they want to continue... they dont fire. works like a fucking charm.
I understand. That's what i thought about MGTOW. Bitching about women is the MGTOW way on the surface while going your own way is exactly that you have described.
MGTOW says all women are evil and gold diggers and that you should never hand over your balls into her purse. You must subscribe to the MGTOW commandments or else you were never MGTOW (because apparently there must be no way back or around) but are always blue pill.
MGHOW says some women are evil and gold diggers and that you should never hand over your balls into her purse. You do what you like and if you don't, then that's on you.
The overwhelmingly vast amount of women just want a partner they can love and be loved by. You clearly spent some time on this blame game You may want to spend some time looking inward. You’ll actually get better results. After reading (most of) this diatribe, I realize it could all be summed up in what I said on @Wowgirl30q’s take. ...
Honestly you sound bitter my man. What woman doesn’t want someone who’s successful? What woman doesn’t want a man who can provide a great life? Also, you don’t need to have a lavish lifestyle, money, and all these weird requirements you set to get a girl. Fun fact, I got laid more when I was broke more than I do now and I have a lot more money now. You have claimed to be a player on this website for many years, and I’m calling bullshit. You don’t seem to understand women at all and you seem to get rejected by them a lot considering your post.
Well written. All of it was accurate for a good amount of women and women who want to believe that's how it should be. I too leave women who do those things to me. Luckily i did have a few girls who were better than that. I'm still friends with my first girlfriend who is one of them. It would be nice to just enjoy a night out and with a good person. When you write that article hit me up, id love to read it. I too have changed how i look at women and it's necessary.
Oh shit... that makes like 11 people now that want to read it. Im going to have to write a pre-article first though, because its a system, not a manual.
As much as I would love, LOVE to write a manual, i realize everyone and every gender, and every relationship is different and i can only base a manual off myself. I DO have a manual, for me. But the DDS (Diesel Dating System) is just a system that makes all this bullshit equal and no one feels used or left out or cheated etc... I still have a few kinks to work out because i didn't find holes in it, but a couple women did. you know how they like to ruin anything that doesn't go their way ONLY.
loooool... i really hope it becomes a thing. but if it doesn't (because women won't let it to, and pussy whipped men will allow it), it doesn't matter to me. Its a criteria for ANY woman to date me. And if that means being single forever, so be it. It doesn't stop regular dating things, just calls bullshit when bullshit is bullshit.
Men can get women about the age of 27 after they have lost their bloom and become desperate.
However, it very difficult for guys to get young women from ages 17 to 25+ because, (1) the guys have a feel for girls that are within their league and don't want to settle for less. And (2) young women want the hottest guy they can fuck and reject guys within their league. The girls either don't know or refuse to accept the fact that men date down for sex, but they don't marry down.
The girls want to marry the hottest guys they can fuck, but the hottest guy they can fuck will not marry them because for marriage the guys can do much better than the easy pieces they fuck.
I agree men date down for sex but not for marriage. So you say you won't marry her because she is the one that believes you're the hottest guy she could fuck. But maybe you should marry her. If she is really attracted to you you're not gonna end up in a sexless marriage. So many guys complain that wives stop wanting sex. Maybe that's because they don't pick the girl that wants to f'ck him cuz she thinks he's hot.
@PinkMichae You may be right because there are wives that after marriage appear to be less interested in sex. However, I'm not certain that marrying a girl below a guy's league is the answer. It may be that to catch the guy the girl will fuck like a mink. However, that doesn't necessarily imply that she is naturally all that into sex. It could just be acting and after marriage, she might start finding excuses.
@PinkMichae There are universal characteristics of beauty that even infants recognize. For females, they are small waist to hip ratio, bilateral symmetry, smooth skin, youthful appearance, and big eyes. All beautiful women and even all Disney princesses have those characteristics.
But I can say I don't fit that ratio and I haven't had an issue with guys wanting me for just sex. And guys that I say are attractive. And I think the reason is I can recognize that I have cool personality I am confident, and funny. If someone has an awesome personality, confidence, and they can make people laugh, people will find them attractive even if at first glance they weren't.
Maybe you have met with some of the wrong kind of girls. There are ladies out there who are actually looking for real relationship built on love, respect, communication, honesty.
Sometimes, is not wrong for a man to pay. It just shows that she is respected. How do you feel if u were on a date, and he expects u to go dutch in front of the server? Or if a woman pays, she is made to feel like she is some sugar mummy who is sponsoring this kid.
If u are looking for unrealistic expectations of a girl like vavavoom supermodel like, of course, u gonna get this kind of thing. Even then, nowadays, women are working to sponsor our own self. Pls don't forget that.
I just feel nowadays both men and women are equal. Sometimes, it depends on etiquette of a gentleman.
Women think we "can't get them" when in actual fact most of us are waking up to the realization that it isn't in our best interest to have them and we would rather have our freedom, stuff, and money over a controlling vagina that expects us to be subservient to them.
We can always pick up a rando pussy for a thrill but keeping one around is just stupid.
"They say women can tell within the first few seconds if she will have sex with a guy.."
They see all that they care about.. looks, obvious money. No concerns about personality. Then they cry about how bad men are.. No the men YOU picked were bad and abusive... but hey he was hot right?
What annoys me are the men who will insult you, labelling you an incel or whatever label their mistresses tell them to use. Desperate men kissing up to women here who will never be theirs
nice response. i mean i didn't read the other article because it sounded like a hurt girl's diatribe. why guys CAN't get girls anymore? haha. one look at the society and you'll know men can get girls if they want to. girls are throwing themselves at them sometimes. anyway the fact is women are not in vogue anymore ( that's why they're so angry and write articles to insult and berate guys) and we haven't even made sex robots affordable yet. imagine what would happen then. and i'm always surprised when women say men are shit but then those women are miserable that they don't have a man. i mean how pathetic must YOU be to crave that man whom you think is shit. but ultimately if women want relationships and commitment, belittling guys is not the way to go about it. this'll only make them more miserable but what do i care? i can always pay a prostitute for sex and have what i want.
What would happen is that the pathetic men go to robots weeding themselves out and effectively making it easier on desirable men. The ones who want relationships and are attractive in personality and physically.
Everybody is happy. I’m amazed I didn’t see it before. You’re right about the women too (even though men do the same).
@AuroraRoseat true about pathetic men although i'm not sure i would call the men who are tired of women's BS pathetic. but if that happens and pathetic men stick to their robots, the desirable men would only date decent desirable women not the pathetic ones. you sound as if your sure you're one of the desirable ones. let me just tell you what happens when those desirable men search for good women, they'll have to become gay as they give up looking for those good women
Dude.. just a hint... if you are going to talk some true ass shit like this... be strong enough to post as yourself... instead of Anon. You see the fucking female contradictions... I see it too and its like the worst thing ever. Aurora could say what she wants and wants to weed out "undesirables"... but she's a girl... she doesn't know the struggle. its like when i meet girls that talk about what a "real" man should be like, i said, a REAL man would tell you to shut the fuck up, cuz you ain't a man. because real men know women are walking contradictions... they say one thing... and either can't handle it OR want the opposite. One example... i bet you Aurora would love honesty, she wants a guy to be honest with her at all times... but what if that honesty came with..."Hey Aurora... dang girl... its been chinese for like 2 months and you have gained 20 pounds"... is that honesty? yes. Would she like hearing that? No... Women dont want honesty... they want selective honesty... just like they like selective EVERYTHING else.
@AuroraRoseat the mythical "good" woman... you know... i believe there are "good" women out there... but with odds of 10011-1... its a little hard to find. so its just easier to say... ain't no good one. I dont and won't waint for no "good" woman... i will MAKE one. I'll just be a Man... and if she tries to out-man me like most women do... she'll learn real quick.
Someone must have hurt you OP. Bad. I’ll stop playing around right now and be serious.
You can tell a woman she gained some wait but be TACTFUL about it. Would you want a woman to tell you you’re too small for her or you aren’t even good in bed? Would you want someone to tell you that way? You can be honest but be respectful about it. It’s not difficult.
i didn't always post anonymously but the stuff that i say, it's easier to be anon. i'm sure you know how fast people start blocking and it's like you can't comment on anyone's questions because they've all blocked you or they think you're a misogynist
@AuroraRoseat good luck helping men find good women. i'm sure you'll end up as one of those female MRAs and i'll be home with my sex robot having a great time. don't be so condescending because i'm sure you own a vibrator. what's the difference between a robot and an electric device that gives you a pleasure
Vibrators and robots are different. I'm not attached to my vibrator or use it for loneliness. I use it to get off. You'd use your robot as a companion for depression, loneliness, girlfriend etc. It's not just a toy for you. Big difference. Men with that toy: I wouldn't mind playing with them. Guys like you?
I am a men's rights activists by the way. Not MGTOW: they're idiotic. I don't care for whiners, complainers, do nothings etc. though. This is all I see on here: a bunch of (supposedly) adult men glomping women into a simple category and acting as if they all know how we work when each of you live in such limited realities.
I've been looking for the horrible women who claim nasty things about men and I have literally seen less than 10 questions (which I've answered and told them they're wrong). You guys make me sad and happy at the same time.
Sad because it's pathetic and unrealistic to make assumptions and happy because most men are NOT like this in my opinion.
And you SHOULD let people block you honestly. Who cares? I guess you do.
I'm bored of this conversation though. I wanted to have fun and tease but the OP made me get serious and it's just honestly sad how some of you are.
@AuroraRoseat first off you may not see many questions directly insult men because women are passive aggressive but if you were a man you'd spot them right away. and i don't care if you identify as a men's rights activist. how can you be one if you can't understand what men's rights are? you're like one of those creepy male feminists. having a sex robot has nothing to do with loneliness. if a guy gets lonely he hangs out with his friends but a robot can take care of his other needs. i seriously don't understand why that would trigger you if a guy says he's not interested in dating real women. and no disrespect but you're almost 30. you know what your chances at having a relationship are. it's time you drew a mustache on your vibrator and imagined it was a man doing that.
-No. I can tell with those questions even so. Less than 10. -Proponent for male's rights. I know plenty of what men are suffering from (and I can see due to relatives). Your statement is completely retarded. "How can I be for human rights when I don't know what that entails?" (read in a mocking tone).
I'm for equal rights of anyone and fighting against injustice. So idiotic. I would rather you have been a woman because there are enough stupid males in this world. -It's not triggering. It's pathetic. A man that doesn't want to date real women and uses a synthetic is much better than one who uses it for simply a companion or out of loneliness. At least that man has a girlfriend. He isn't as much of a loser in my opinion.
What does my age have to do with anything? Lol. I have no problem getting men: I just don't want one right now. Don't project your inadequacy and incel-like capabilities onto me.
@AuroraRoseat alright i did not mention human rights. neither did you. we were talking about men's rights " I would rather you have been a woman because there are enough stupid males in this world." yeah that sounds like a true men's rights activist ( read in a stupid sarcastic tone) "I have no problem getting men: I just don't want one right now." sure hon, sure. your logic is flawed but at least you don't call names. oh wait you called me an incel when you don't even know me
-That statement was mocking the idiotic thought that you had which was that if someone doesn't know something about something, they can't be for it. The point is that you can be for something that is for justice and equity. Period.
-You are truly idiotic. There are way too many dumb men that I have come across. I would rather there not be anymore. Especially on this site which it seems I'm calling at least 3 idiotic because they are highly irrational. I want LESS STUPID MEN in the male gender. That's not a good thing?
-You can't talk about logic because you haven't shown any from the start. Refer to original post.
-You're worthless and a waste of life also. It's annoying that toxic people like you exist to spread your stupidity. Add that to the list.
@AuroraRoseat "There are way too many dumb men that I have come across" and there are only 10 man hating questions on this site? so there are too many dumb men but not too many hateful women huh? you see that's not what an MRA would say. those are the words of a legit feminazi. " I want LESS STUPID MEN in the male gender." and Hitler wanted less Jews. I'm finally beginning to understand how you think. i don't agree with you for the same reason i don't agree with Hitler. hurl your insults at me all you want. snowflakes can't really hurt me
A Feminzai would want less uneducated men in the populace? I would think they would want more to control them. This is what I mean: you're literally so stupid that I feel bad that you are part of the male sex. They deal with a lot of mess already and now the (supposedly) growing number of stupid men?
@AuroraRoseat i'm not sure we would agree on the definition of uneducated man. the type of man you're referring to, we call it a castrated man, a simp or white knight. wow you sound really angry. i think you need to pay a little visit to your vibrator. we can continue our conversation afterwards, when you have relaxed. seriously? all you can come up with is "You're stupid". listen you may be physically old but the good news is your brain is very young. like a 5 year old's brain.
You would be better off studying evolutionary psychology. View mating as a market, basically. Women are trying to get the best deal they can, and so are men. And in human mating, women are pickier than men for evolutionary reasons (sex is "expensive" for women and "cheap" for men).
Great take 22 to one compression ratio dude. Your masterpiece about sums it up.
I think it cut short of calling narcissism to the mat; and how the modern world has amplified and promoted the worst of the female human nature although that wasn’t your intent.
I would say that those women that criticize this havn’t been through the great 30+ enlightenment.
Men don’t respect boundaries anymore, simple as that. They feel the urge to control.
Women should have the right to feel safe walking the streets at night without the need to carry protection.. There are condescending men who can’t accept “no” for an answer and go out on a rampage.
@Ninjazzed I get it quite well. There are different rules for men and women. Always has been and always will be, and rightfully so. No man can convince you a baby he had by another woman is your biological baby. However, that's what cheating sluts do all the time. That is why if a man cheats, it is only sex similar to a hug and doesn't harm the women. However, with a woman cheats the man may be stuck with the extremely high cost of raising another man's child. That does real hard and is 100 times worse.
@DWornock That’s bogus, chances are if there is more than one possible father, the two will likely fight to the death over custody of said child in court-ordered legal battles.. and extensive DNA tests may be required to actually prove which man is the biological parent so they won’t have to quarrel over which last name the child inherits.. speaking from experience here, a past friend of mine ended up dating a new man several months later, after her ex dumped her after they had dated for a couple years and he pretty much made the severance clear.. somehow he found out that he successfully impregnated her and that she was currently dating a new man.. it was due to a fake birth control pill that he slipped her, an aspirin.. instead of what she would usually take daily, his plan was to impregnate her without her consent, then has the audacity to show up at her doorstep and point a gun at the man stepping up to assume the role of being the child’s father, what he should have done in the first place instead of running off with an ex, and picked up where his stupid ass had left off when he abandoned her without explanation.
Petty excuses.
Please don’t sugarcoat it.. when a man cheats, it’s no different than when a woman cheats.. it puts their relationship and future in jeopardy, and harms everyone involved.. It’s an invasion of their privacy and destroys the trust built.. it only shows that he’s incapable of keeping it in his pants and that he’s a shitty excuse for a father and partner, a father that would rather entertain other women that use him for monetary gain.
@DWornock The man can pay to have a DNA test for child, to prove if it’s his or not.. he can choose whether or not he raises another man’s child..
Men have the option to leave a woman as soon as the deed is done, then boom she’s pregnant.. A pregnant woman would have to get an abortion in the early stage.. If women aren’t able to escape the responsibility of being a parent then neither should men.
What's clear here is your feminist indoctrination. A man stands just as much of a chance walking the streets at night maybe even more so than a woman. What I have found is that it's women that have a problem respecting boundaries especially teachers and their minor students. But they don't punish women for that they only punish men so as not to make a big deal out of women. So you don't see them showcasing women as the predators they are.
I think your Mytake is excellent and anyone that disagrees with what you said is a salty blue pilled liberal who believes in unicorns and Walt Disney fairy tales and that shit.
All women are atracted to alpha bad boys for sex and doofus beta boys to pay their bills.
Funny story, I know two guys. Conservative and liberal guy. The conservative seems to have a family pretty torn apart and with shaky familial situations. His older bro seems pretty red pilled and may not even know it. (Hes recommended me the show "ozarks") The liberal one has been burned by women before (one caused a car wreck and but left him cause of it) ofc, his older bro also i think is a bit red pilled. (single, self made rich) No joke one of the latest quotes from BOTH of them after BOTH have dated a girl a relatively short amnt of time is this: "I know she's gotta be the one to be with forever!" The quotes are that or VERY alike. Now, the liberal one I last heard/remember ofc... cheated on by "the one he knew was for real this time." The conservative one already wants me at his wedding already. Beleive me I'm just as alert as any dude on this and as a friend believe me Imma try to do what I can to get him to re think and REALLY consider his decisions... So seems to be, politics dont matter for shit. Guys are guys. Positives to note are both are willing to do what it takes to earn cash whether a bit of criminality in the past, doing high school while walking a half mile for a job at mcdonalds, or a local grocery labor while in college. Oh and get this! Liberal one is from Fort Worth. Conservative one? Los Angeles. Oh the ironies right? Yet... when ya consider sooo many similarities... does the political side matter much? I think not honestly. Both dudes are chill guys and honestly until politics get put forth I can see both of them as best buds, no joke. IMHO politics are worthless with men vs women situations. The common thinking often remains the same. I also think the take is phenomenal. But many would consider me a super lib. Hell my exs nickname was Sae. So after the breakup and elevation to swallowing the honk pill my personal joke is "sae made me gae" :)
The good thing, is that its not all of them. I love that line "the difference is just sex". I've gotta use that. Weird how they dont "deliver"/give anything huh... my new thing when i said i dont pay for dates.. is "the only thing we are going to spend, is time". If that makes me come off cheap... so be it. im not going broke cuz of some moron, then when you are broke, what happens? she moves on to the next schmuck. Again, though, not all women are like that, but those that aren't, are like myths. You hear about them, but never come across them. And if you do, they are usually with someone else, usually someone who mistreats them.
The United States is notorious for generating controlling/manipulative women. The women don't have healthy outlets so men and children get used and abused no matter what they do. Men have to reject women like they're leaches or else succubi will attach themselves. At that point any woman can take advantage because the man now perceives himself as the sucker. You either take the easy route that was built on research and laid before you or you learn the hard way.
The truth is that a lot of women will test your boundaries to see how much crap you will put up with to be with her. I have a low tolerance for the games, let them know ASAP, and if they take off I do not care.
YES!!! MY MAN!!! Let it be known upfront what you can tolerate and what you won't tolerate. I used to do that. Then i came out with the DDS (Diesel Dating System)... kind of does it for me, with Waaaay less aggression lol. Cuz if you give a woman an inch... she's gonna keep pulling to see how much more she can get... and your last part, thats a very important factor... be willing to let go. Most men bend to their will because they are afraid of the loss... if you ain't afraid... you can't be controlled.
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Interesting definiton of "guys" that you're using here. Usually "guys" refers to "grown up male humans", but your definition quite apparently translates to "misogynistic bitter incels with zero real life experience with women other than their own mom and what other misogynistic bitter incels on reddit told them about them." You incels are the most delusional losers on the planet, and your circle jerk mentality will ensure that you won't ever improve.
It's very simple:
Once a man stops rewarding bad behaviour, the bad girls will either change their ways, or (more likely) not change, and he can then cut them off completely-- leaving only the good ones left standing when all is said and done.
People generally will regress to the minimum standard of behaviour they feel they can get away with. If you communicate in some way that you have a low standard of behaviour, then you'll get trampled over and your heart ripped apart by mean-spirited bitches and hoes. But if you communicate a HIGH standard of behaviour, and are willing to walk away from any girl who fails those standards... then you won't have to deal with all the problematic behaviour you mentioned, because the girls acting that way will be ejected from your life so fast they won't know what hit em lol
... then they try to fire back... like its supposed to hurt.
Of course they will, because emotionally they are reactive, and don't know how to deal with a proactive man telling them what's what. But if the man gets reactive to her every whim and demand, then he's lost right out the gate.
isn't that what happens anyway? which is why a woman can get "upset" over anything... for any reason, and "punish" the guy... those words dont even exist in my vocabulary if its not legit. Like if i happened to look at another woman and she gets "upset"... most guys would start scrambling, trying to apologize and "fix" a problem that never actually existed.
No... i'd tell the bitch to kiss my ass. Id give her MORE of a reason to be "upset"... im not solving a crime that was never committed. she wants to be mad, she can stay mad, then she tries to Punish for a crime you never committed, No Pussy, lol... thats fine... there are other bitches out there. I just have to pick up my phone.
my point exactly :D they're just conditioned by all the men who put up with their shit and kiss their ass. It seems so foreign to them that a man could just up and leave and not come back if she starts turning psycho lol. Too many men are way too permissive of shitty treatment from women, but by tolerating it, they just encourage more of it.
Yes!!! Yes!!! and then the men try to justify it as what? chivalry? a thing women themselves killed because they want to Become men. I talk a bunch of shit about women and how they dont give a fuck about a male perspective, but I've always kept my eye on the Real culprits... these Bitch-made men/ fucking white knights... who think that just because She said, or She wants, its the right thing to do... now because of them, women can come up with ANY fucking thing and make it some requirement.
About 40 years ago, it was a privilege for women to even be LOOKED AT by a man, now, guys can't even get a word in. these ain't my stories... i just watch these things happen. i watch my co-worker get shot down so bad (drinks after work) that it made fall back... and it pulled up my inner demon... i wanted to approach her... get her number... be her perfect kind of man... then just when she thinks she has found "the one"... dump her. Yes, im a little bastard too... to those who deserve it.
"then they try to fire back... like its supposed to hurt."
MGTOW valuable lesson calls it the shaming language because they didn't get what they wanted similar to A child not getting it's candy by the checkout point.
I 100% agree with not rewarding bad behavior, although we may as well be seen as MGTOW or as they say "bitter virgin loser, who can't get a girlfriend" since this applies quite often enough.
@Unit1 Difference with MGTOW is they just give up full stop. I'm talking about being hyper-proactive in one's dating life, but also having an equivalent uptick in one's willingness to punish bad behaviour or walk away from women who refuse to change their bad behaviour. Meeting more women would necessitate turning away more women also, simply by virtue of the increased volume increasing demands on one's time and energy. If you're talking to 30 girls at any one time, and 19 are giving you shit, then it's economical for you to just cut out the 19 bad ones and see how the remaining 11 measure up. Of course there's a human element and it's not just a "numbers game" purely, but the economics of the scenario favour the man when he has many options. If he has no options (either by incompetence, ie: "incel", or by non-participation, ie: "MGTOW"), then the numbers won't favour him, and he'll be more likely to accept bad behavior from the women who show initial interest.
Except MGTOW doesn't accept any shit from women. It's over. Although you could question whether they are truly going their own way when some of them bitch about women much more often than you or i do.
@Unit1 sorry, gotta go with Tom here... when i first heard of MGTOW... i thought it was amazing... but then i saw something... they were still guys... they rallied because of a common issue... thought women were just something.. but i watched them get picked off out of it when they got a "gf"... so i MGTOW'ed, i went MY own Muthaeffin way. or should I say MGHOW...(man going his own way) i just rewrote the fucking system... turns out... its fucking better than MGTOW... Im not fighting fire with fire with the new DDS... Im fighting Her fire with HER fire lol... so if they want to continue... they dont fire. works like a fucking charm.
I understand. That's what i thought about MGTOW. Bitching about women is the MGTOW way on the surface while going your own way is exactly that you have described.
MGTOW says all women are evil and gold diggers and that you should never hand over your balls into her purse. You must subscribe to the MGTOW commandments or else you were never MGTOW (because apparently there must be no way back or around) but are always blue pill.
MGHOW says some women are evil and gold diggers and that you should never hand over your balls into her purse. You do what you like and if you don't, then that's on you.
A lot of things intersect between those 2.
The overwhelmingly vast amount of women just want a partner they can love and be loved by. You clearly spent some time on this blame game You may want to spend some time looking inward. You’ll actually get better results.
After reading (most of) this diatribe, I realize it could all be summed up in what I said on @Wowgirl30q’s take. ...
@SarahsSummer I'd hug you if I could
@Wowgirl30q 😘
You spelled 'erroneously' erroneously
@DonCachondo 👍🏼
Honestly you sound bitter my man. What woman doesn’t want someone who’s successful? What woman doesn’t want a man who can provide a great life? Also, you don’t need to have a lavish lifestyle, money, and all these weird requirements you set to get a girl. Fun fact, I got laid more when I was broke more than I do now and I have a lot more money now. You have claimed to be a player on this website for many years, and I’m calling bullshit. You don’t seem to understand women at all and you seem to get rejected by them a lot considering your post.
Well written. All of it was accurate for a good amount of women and women who want to believe that's how it should be. I too leave women who do those things to me. Luckily i did have a few girls who were better than that. I'm still friends with my first girlfriend who is one of them. It would be nice to just enjoy a night out and with a good person. When you write that article hit me up, id love to read it. I too have changed how i look at women and it's necessary.
Oh shit... that makes like 11 people now that want to read it. Im going to have to write a pre-article first though, because its a system, not a manual.
It should be a manual. Maybe helping us guys to do good in finding the right woman. Yeah. 😀
As much as I would love, LOVE to write a manual, i realize everyone and every gender, and every relationship is different and i can only base a manual off myself. I DO have a manual, for me. But the DDS (Diesel Dating System) is just a system that makes all this bullshit equal and no one feels used or left out or cheated etc...
I still have a few kinks to work out because i didn't find holes in it, but a couple women did. you know how they like to ruin anything that doesn't go their way ONLY.
Take my money!!! Lol
loooool... i really hope it becomes a thing. but if it doesn't (because women won't let it to, and pussy whipped men will allow it), it doesn't matter to me. Its a criteria for ANY woman to date me. And if that means being single forever, so be it.
It doesn't stop regular dating things, just calls bullshit when bullshit is bullshit.
What am i going to do with you. *slams forehead against wall* oh well. 😎Lol
Hey, just put out a new question. Its kind of related. When its posted, i can send you a link
That was great your sarcasm cracks me up well done Sir👍🙂❤️
https://youtu.be/6vwNcNOTVzY
Orrrr
https://youtu.be/RIdwLCmNV8M
Lol... I didn't write it the way i wanted to though. I got carried away after i started, but thanks hon.
I liked it your actually rather talented
Men can get women about the age of 27 after they have lost their bloom and become desperate.
However, it very difficult for guys to get young women from ages 17 to 25+ because, (1) the guys have a feel for girls that are within their league and don't want to settle for less. And (2) young women want the hottest guy they can fuck and reject guys within their league. The girls either don't know or refuse to accept the fact that men date down for sex, but they don't marry down.
The girls want to marry the hottest guys they can fuck, but the hottest guy they can fuck will not marry them because for marriage the guys can do much better than the easy pieces they fuck.
I agree men date down for sex but not for marriage. So you say you won't marry her because she is the one that believes you're the hottest guy she could fuck. But maybe you should marry her. If she is really attracted to you you're not gonna end up in a sexless marriage. So many guys complain that wives stop wanting sex. Maybe that's because they don't pick the girl that wants to f'ck him cuz she thinks he's hot.
@PinkMichae You may be right because there are wives that after marriage appear to be less interested in sex. However, I'm not certain that marrying a girl below a guy's league is the answer. It may be that to catch the guy the girl will fuck like a mink. However, that doesn't necessarily imply that she is naturally all that into sex. It could just be acting and after marriage, she might start finding excuses.
I just don't really by that there are leagues anyway. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What you think is hot your friend might not think so.
@PinkMichae There are universal characteristics of beauty that even infants recognize. For females, they are small waist to hip ratio, bilateral symmetry, smooth skin, youthful appearance, and big eyes. All beautiful women and even all Disney princesses have those characteristics.
This is an interesting debate.
But I can say I don't fit that ratio and I haven't had an issue with guys wanting me for just sex. And guys that I say are attractive. And I think the reason is I can recognize that I have cool personality I am confident, and funny. If someone has an awesome personality, confidence, and they can make people laugh, people will find them attractive even if at first glance they weren't.
I meant wanting me for more than just sex. Lol! Sounded bad how I accidentally said it.😂
@PinkMichae are you saying the guys DO want you just for sex? And you're fine with that?
@Jamie05rhs No. I left a word out which is why I wrote after what I meant.
@PinkMichae Your correction reads: "I haven't had an issue with guys wanting me for more than just sex."
Maybe you have met with some of the wrong kind of girls. There are ladies out there who are actually looking for real relationship built on love, respect, communication, honesty.
Sometimes, is not wrong for a man to pay. It just shows that she is respected. How do you feel if u were on a date, and he expects u to go dutch in front of the server? Or if a woman pays, she is made to feel like she is some sugar mummy who is sponsoring this kid.
If u are looking for unrealistic expectations of a girl like vavavoom supermodel like, of course, u gonna get this kind of thing. Even then, nowadays, women are working to sponsor our own self. Pls don't forget that.
I just feel nowadays both men and women are equal. Sometimes, it depends on etiquette of a gentleman.
Of the five girls who are like that, they're always taken. So they're still out of luck
Women think we "can't get them" when in actual fact most of us are waking up to the realization that it isn't in our best interest to have them and we would rather have our freedom, stuff, and money over a controlling vagina that expects us to be subservient to them.
We can always pick up a rando pussy for a thrill but keeping one around is just stupid.
and when they find this out, they start by belittling, calling names, ego attacking (aint a real man)... and if he stands strong... begging.
"They say women can tell within the first few seconds if she will have sex with a guy.."
They see all that they care about.. looks, obvious money. No concerns about personality. Then they cry about how bad men are.. No the men YOU picked were bad and abusive... but hey he was hot right?
What annoys me are the men who will insult you, labelling you an incel or whatever label their mistresses tell them to use. Desperate men kissing up to women here who will never be theirs
Not sure why you're anonymous here, because that was a damn good post; nothing at all to be ashamed of.
nice response. i mean i didn't read the other article because it sounded like a hurt girl's diatribe. why guys CAN't get girls anymore? haha. one look at the society and you'll know men can get girls if they want to. girls are throwing themselves at them sometimes. anyway the fact is women are not in vogue anymore ( that's why they're so angry and write articles to insult and berate guys) and we haven't even made sex robots affordable yet. imagine what would happen then. and i'm always surprised when women say men are shit but then those women are miserable that they don't have a man. i mean how pathetic must YOU be to crave that man whom you think is shit. but ultimately if women want relationships and commitment, belittling guys is not the way to go about it. this'll only make them more miserable but what do i care? i can always pay a prostitute for sex and have what i want.
What would happen is that the pathetic men go to robots weeding themselves out and effectively making it easier on desirable men. The ones who want relationships and are attractive in personality and physically.
Everybody is happy. I’m amazed I didn’t see it before. You’re right about the women too (even though men do the same).
@AuroraRoseat true about pathetic men although i'm not sure i would call the men who are tired of women's BS pathetic. but if that happens and pathetic men stick to their robots, the desirable men would only date decent desirable women not the pathetic ones. you sound as if your sure you're one of the desirable ones. let me just tell you what happens when those desirable men search for good women, they'll have to become gay as they give up looking for those good women
Dude.. just a hint... if you are going to talk some true ass shit like this... be strong enough to post as yourself... instead of Anon.
You see the fucking female contradictions... I see it too and its like the worst thing ever. Aurora could say what she wants and wants to weed out "undesirables"... but she's a girl... she doesn't know the struggle. its like when i meet girls that talk about what a "real" man should be like, i said, a REAL man would tell you to shut the fuck up, cuz you ain't a man. because real men know women are walking contradictions... they say one thing... and either can't handle it OR want the opposite.
One example... i bet you Aurora would love honesty, she wants a guy to be honest with her at all times... but what if that honesty came with..."Hey Aurora... dang girl... its been chinese for like 2 months and you have gained 20 pounds"... is that honesty? yes. Would she like hearing that? No... Women dont want honesty... they want selective honesty... just like they like selective EVERYTHING else.
No. Good women exist. They’ll find them and I’ll help them. But it shouldn’t concern you because you’re grabbing a robot.
@AuroraRoseat the mythical "good" woman... you know... i believe there are "good" women out there... but with odds of 10011-1... its a little hard to find. so its just easier to say... ain't no good one.
I dont and won't waint for no "good" woman... i will MAKE one. I'll just be a Man... and if she tries to out-man me like most women do... she'll learn real quick.
Someone must have hurt you OP. Bad. I’ll stop playing around right now and be serious.
You can tell a woman she gained some wait but be TACTFUL about it. Would you want a woman to tell you you’re too small for her or you aren’t even good in bed? Would you want someone to tell you that way? You can be honest but be respectful about it. It’s not difficult.
i didn't always post anonymously but the stuff that i say, it's easier to be anon. i'm sure you know how fast people start blocking and it's like you can't comment on anyone's questions because they've all blocked you or they think you're a misogynist
@AuroraRoseat good luck helping men find good women. i'm sure you'll end up as one of those female MRAs and i'll be home with my sex robot having a great time. don't be so condescending because i'm sure you own a vibrator. what's the difference between a robot and an electric device that gives you a pleasure
Oh god.
Vibrators and robots are different. I'm not attached to my vibrator or use it for loneliness. I use it to get off. You'd use your robot as a companion for depression, loneliness, girlfriend etc. It's not just a toy for you. Big difference. Men with that toy: I wouldn't mind playing with them. Guys like you?
I am a men's rights activists by the way. Not MGTOW: they're idiotic. I don't care for whiners, complainers, do nothings etc. though. This is all I see on here: a bunch of (supposedly) adult men glomping women into a simple category and acting as if they all know how we work when each of you live in such limited realities.
I've been looking for the horrible women who claim nasty things about men and I have literally seen less than 10 questions (which I've answered and told them they're wrong). You guys make me sad and happy at the same time.
Sad because it's pathetic and unrealistic to make assumptions and happy because most men are NOT like this in my opinion.
And you SHOULD let people block you honestly. Who cares? I guess you do.
I'm bored of this conversation though. I wanted to have fun and tease but the OP made me get serious and it's just honestly sad how some of you are.
Do what you want and I hope it works out for you.
@AuroraRoseat first off you may not see many questions directly insult men because women are passive aggressive but if you were a man you'd spot them right away. and i don't care if you identify as a men's rights activist. how can you be one if you can't understand what men's rights are? you're like one of those creepy male feminists. having a sex robot has nothing to do with loneliness. if a guy gets lonely he hangs out with his friends but a robot can take care of his other needs. i seriously don't understand why that would trigger you if a guy says he's not interested in dating real women. and no disrespect but you're almost 30. you know what your chances at having a relationship are. it's time you drew a mustache on your vibrator and imagined it was a man doing that.
-No. I can tell with those questions even so. Less than 10.
-Proponent for male's rights. I know plenty of what men are suffering from (and I can see due to relatives). Your statement is completely retarded. "How can I be for human rights when I don't know what that entails?" (read in a mocking tone).
I'm for equal rights of anyone and fighting against injustice. So idiotic. I would rather you have been a woman because there are enough stupid males in this world.
-It's not triggering. It's pathetic. A man that doesn't want to date real women and uses a synthetic is much better than one who uses it for simply a companion or out of loneliness. At least that man has a girlfriend. He isn't as much of a loser in my opinion.
What does my age have to do with anything? Lol. I have no problem getting men: I just don't want one right now. Don't project your inadequacy and incel-like capabilities onto me.
@AuroraRoseat alright i did not mention human rights. neither did you. we were talking about men's rights
" I would rather you have been a woman because there are enough stupid males in this world."
yeah that sounds like a true men's rights activist ( read in a stupid sarcastic tone)
"I have no problem getting men: I just don't want one right now."
sure hon, sure.
your logic is flawed but at least you don't call names. oh wait you called me an incel when you don't even know me
... You're so dumb it's literally annoying.
-That statement was mocking the idiotic thought that you had which was that if someone doesn't know something about something, they can't be for it. The point is that you can be for something that is for justice and equity. Period.
-You are truly idiotic. There are way too many dumb men that I have come across. I would rather there not be anymore. Especially on this site which it seems I'm calling at least 3 idiotic because they are highly irrational. I want LESS STUPID MEN in the male gender. That's not a good thing?
-You can't talk about logic because you haven't shown any from the start. Refer to original post.
-You're worthless and a waste of life also. It's annoying that toxic people like you exist to spread your stupidity. Add that to the list.
@AuroraRoseat "There are way too many dumb men that I have come across" and there are only 10 man hating questions on this site? so there are too many dumb men but not too many hateful women huh? you see that's not what an MRA would say. those are the words of a legit feminazi.
" I want LESS STUPID MEN in the male gender."
and Hitler wanted less Jews. I'm finally beginning to understand how you think. i don't agree with you for the same reason i don't agree with Hitler.
hurl your insults at me all you want. snowflakes can't really hurt me
A Feminzai would want less uneducated men in the populace? I would think they would want more to control them. This is what I mean: you're literally so stupid that I feel bad that you are part of the male sex. They deal with a lot of mess already and now the (supposedly) growing number of stupid men?
Lol. Says the snowflake.
I also didn't say there was 10. I said that I HAVE SEEN LESS THAN 10. Reading comprehension. Very basic and useful tool.
@AuroraRoseat i'm not sure we would agree on the definition of uneducated man. the type of man you're referring to, we call it a castrated man, a simp or white knight. wow you sound really angry. i think you need to pay a little visit to your vibrator. we can continue our conversation afterwards, when you have relaxed. seriously? all you can come up with is "You're stupid". listen you may be physically old but the good news is your brain is very young. like a 5 year old's brain.
Cool story, kid. Nothing worthwhile you have except your own irrational biases. :/
@AuroraRoseat so long ma'am
not fucking worth it.
You would be better off studying evolutionary psychology. View mating as a market, basically. Women are trying to get the best deal they can, and so are men. And in human mating, women are pickier than men for evolutionary reasons (sex is "expensive" for women and "cheap" for men).
Great take 22 to one compression ratio dude. Your masterpiece about sums it up.
I think it cut short of calling narcissism to the mat; and how the modern world has amplified and promoted the worst of the female human nature although that wasn’t your intent.
I would say that those women that criticize this havn’t been through the great 30+ enlightenment.
Plus, these women live the feminist ideals by indoctrination while seeking the traditional man biologically and that is one broken dichotomy.
Men don’t respect boundaries anymore, simple as that. They feel the urge to control.
Women should have the right to feel safe walking the streets at night without the need to carry protection.. There are condescending men who can’t accept “no” for an answer and go out on a rampage.
If that were true women wouldn't dress and act like sluts.
@DWornock But yet it still acceptable for men to be whores? You don’t get it.
And what do you mean by ‘dressing’?
Slightly revealing or decked out in fishnets and thong?
@Ninjazzed I get it quite well. There are different rules for men and women. Always has been and always will be, and rightfully so. No man can convince you a baby he had by another woman is your biological baby. However, that's what cheating sluts do all the time. That is why if a man cheats, it is only sex similar to a hug and doesn't harm the women. However, with a woman cheats the man may be stuck with the extremely high cost of raising another man's child. That does real hard and is 100 times worse.
@DWornock That’s bogus, chances are if there is more than one possible father, the two will likely fight to the death over custody of said child in court-ordered legal battles.. and extensive DNA tests may be required to actually prove which man is the biological parent so they won’t have to quarrel over which last name the child inherits.. speaking from experience here, a past friend of mine ended up dating a new man several months later, after her ex dumped her after they had dated for a couple years and he pretty much made the severance clear.. somehow he found out that he successfully impregnated her and that she was currently dating a new man.. it was due to a fake birth control pill that he slipped her, an aspirin.. instead of what she would usually take daily, his plan was to impregnate her without her consent, then has the audacity to show up at her doorstep and point a gun at the man stepping up to assume the role of being the child’s father, what he should have done in the first place instead of running off with an ex, and picked up where his stupid ass had left off when he abandoned her without explanation.
Petty excuses.
Please don’t sugarcoat it.. when a man cheats, it’s no different than when a woman cheats.. it puts their relationship and future in jeopardy, and harms everyone involved.. It’s an invasion of their privacy and destroys the trust built.. it only shows that he’s incapable of keeping it in his pants and that he’s a shitty excuse for a father and partner, a father that would rather entertain other women that use him for monetary gain.
@DWornock The man can pay to have a DNA test for child, to prove if it’s his or not.. he can choose whether or not he raises another man’s child..
Men have the option to leave a woman as soon as the deed is done, then boom she’s pregnant.. A pregnant woman would have to get an abortion in the early stage.. If women aren’t able to escape the responsibility of being a parent then neither should men.
What's clear here is your feminist indoctrination. A man stands just as much of a chance walking the streets at night maybe even more so than a woman. What I have found is that it's women that have a problem respecting boundaries especially teachers and their minor students. But they don't punish women for that they only punish men so as not to make a big deal out of women. So you don't see them showcasing women as the predators they are.
@ThisAndThat i like this guy... he sees it too...
I think your Mytake is excellent and anyone that disagrees with what you said is a salty blue pilled liberal who believes in unicorns and Walt Disney fairy tales and that shit.
All women are atracted to alpha bad boys for sex and doofus beta boys to pay their bills.
Sad but true.
Facts.
Funny story, I know two guys. Conservative and liberal guy. The conservative seems to have a family pretty torn apart and with shaky familial situations. His older bro seems pretty red pilled and may not even know it. (Hes recommended me the show "ozarks") The liberal one has been burned by women before (one caused a car wreck and but left him cause of it) ofc, his older bro also i think is a bit red pilled. (single, self made rich) No joke one of the latest quotes from BOTH of them after BOTH have dated a girl a relatively short amnt of time is this: "I know she's gotta be the one to be with forever!" The quotes are that or VERY alike. Now, the liberal one I last heard/remember ofc... cheated on by "the one he knew was for real this time." The conservative one already wants me at his wedding already. Beleive me I'm just as alert as any dude on this and as a friend believe me Imma try to do what I can to get him to re think and REALLY consider his decisions... So seems to be, politics dont matter for shit. Guys are guys. Positives to note are both are willing to do what it takes to earn cash whether a bit of criminality in the past, doing high school while walking a half mile for a job at mcdonalds, or a local grocery labor while in college. Oh and get this! Liberal one is from Fort Worth. Conservative one? Los Angeles. Oh the ironies right? Yet... when ya consider sooo many similarities... does the political side matter much? I think not honestly. Both dudes are chill guys and honestly until politics get put forth I can see both of them as best buds, no joke. IMHO politics are worthless with men vs women situations. The common thinking often remains the same. I also think the take is phenomenal. But many would consider me a super lib. Hell my exs nickname was Sae. So after the breakup and elevation to swallowing the honk pill my personal joke is "sae made me gae" :)
@satankicksgodsass Interesting. Thank you.
I 100% agree with this. A lot of women only think in the moment and are only concerned with themselves.
If you are worth my time, I don't have to pay for your time. I don't pay my friends to meet them, so what is different with a date? Sex.
A lot of women are just prostitutes who cost more and don't even deliver.
The good thing, is that its not all of them.
I love that line "the difference is just sex". I've gotta use that.
Weird how they dont "deliver"/give anything huh... my new thing when i said i dont pay for dates.. is "the only thing we are going to spend, is time". If that makes me come off cheap... so be it. im not going broke cuz of some moron, then when you are broke, what happens? she moves on to the next schmuck.
Again, though, not all women are like that, but those that aren't, are like myths. You hear about them, but never come across them. And if you do, they are usually with someone else, usually someone who mistreats them.
Guys, if she acts like you're not worth her time chances are she's not worth yours. Don't be afraid to put these greedy bitches in their place.
Should change the title to 'why i can't get girls because im a loser who thinks women r 1 dimensional'
No. They are 6 dimensional😂😂
The United States is notorious for generating controlling/manipulative women. The women don't have healthy outlets so men and children get used and abused no matter what they do. Men have to reject women like they're leaches or else succubi will attach themselves. At that point any woman can take advantage because the man now perceives himself as the sucker. You either take the easy route that was built on research and laid before you or you learn the hard way.
The truth is that a lot of women will test your boundaries to see how much crap you will put up with to be with her. I have a low tolerance for the games, let them know ASAP, and if they take off I do not care.
YES!!! MY MAN!!! Let it be known upfront what you can tolerate and what you won't tolerate. I used to do that. Then i came out with the DDS (Diesel Dating System)... kind of does it for me, with Waaaay less aggression lol. Cuz if you give a woman an inch... she's gonna keep pulling to see how much more she can get... and your last part, thats a very important factor... be willing to let go. Most men bend to their will because they are afraid of the loss... if you ain't afraid... you can't be controlled.
I do that
@Wowgirl30q Dont you bend them?
I take a mile if I don't respect him
@Wowgirl30q i think you just hurt em lol
You're sweet
@Wowgirl30q me? hell no... take that back... im a dick... a dick!!!
Ok huge dick
I am logical about it. With over 3.5 billion women on the planet, why put up with games?