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Women aren't actually into "bad boys": My take on dating and narcissism (Page 4)
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Nice one from @Subarugirl
They’re into HOT GUYS that tend to be bad
6 Paragraphs of puerile bullshit.
God you have no fucking life.
Actually, I have more life than I can handle at the moment... but thank you for being so concerned. That's so sweet!
Being nice doesn't seem to work for me.
Because women don't like nice guys.
@yyyuuuiii what i mean is going out of my way to be helpful
Women don’t necessarily like being mistreated. But they are turned on by mystery and challenge. Nice guys tend to be way too available, agreeable and placating. They tend to take more shit from women then they should.
It’s actually possible to find a decent woman or be a manwhore and still be a “nice guy”. However you need to put in significant mental effort into understanding the concepts of challenge and mystery. You have to be ready to be “tested” by women and remain tough. You have to be ready to walk away and mean it on a drop off a hat.
That above unfortunately doesn’t come naturally to most “nice guys”. I recommend reading Corey Wayne and doc love about this.
@globetrotter22 who doesn't like a little mystery and challenge?
@Subarugirl women are naturally more difficult in dating situations vs men who are more direct. Women “test” more. They are naturally more of a pain in the ass in dating situations unless they already have a huge crush on the guy. But most of the time they are curious are best because it’s the guy who asks them out. They are in drivers seat to test.
Most guys don’t naturally do that crap and many of us don’t even know we are being “tested” unless we have developed experience for it. A nice guy will unwittingly put himself in the friéndzone by doing what women “say” they like and failing her shit tests. He’s not being a challenge.
To be fair I’ve been in a role reversal once years ago. Girl was a bit too nice but I was so used to the opposite I didn’t know what the hell to do. However I will still take that vs what most women do nowadays. Absolutely.
@globetrotter22 you are 100-percent correct. Also, many people would look at your comment and label you an incel.
@yyyuuuiii I’m not oversimplifying everything with the atypical asshole vs. nice guy argument. It’s more complicated than that.
But being a former “nice guy” myself I know that without a doubt women are turned on by challenge. It’s amazing how differently women I am “sorta” interested in treated me vs. the ones I really liked. I didn’t mistreat the so so ones. Still nice to them but I didn’t feel like bending over backwards for them.
Also hate to be a Debby downer but from my observations many women don’t grow out of this stupidity. I’ve met women well into their 30s who still chase assholes and confidently friéndzone “nice guys”. You think they would understand both men and themselves at that age but they don’t.
@globetrotter22 same I'm also a former nice guy so I know first-hand that the nice guy shit does not work
@yyyuuuiii well it is possible to go too far in wrong direction and regret it. Women have (rightfully so) breaking points. I absolute overdid being a “challenge” to a specific girl years ago. Worked like magic in the beginning but i went way to far. I regret how I handled that and still miss her to this day.
But let’s be honest. It’s really not possible for someone who is raised as a nice guy to become a tried and true aggressive asshole (unless they have serious issues like PTSD or brain trauma). We prefer peace vs getting off on unnecessary conflict.
However we can be TRAINED on avoiding doing nice guy tendencies that turn woman off. This is easier said then done. It requires self discipline and being on the ball. For example you just got her number. Should you message her the next day? No wait at least 4 to 7 days. Make her wonder why you haven’t texted/called her yet. Women aren’t dumping when they are chasing.
@globetrotter22 FACTS
@globetrotter22 True. Nice guys fail women's constant shit testing.
@Subarugirl. No. "Mystery and challenge" as a "good thing" in dating is unique to women. Men want peace and compatibility.
@KrakenAttackin some women are worse than others on this. I don’t want to throw them all under the bus. But yes ALL women test. Now if they already really like you and/or your really attractive their shit tests will be easy to pass and they won’t do it often.
However most women are on the fence when they first meet a guy unless he’s a celebrity, wealthy or extremely good looking. But the rest of us face tests. Women often don’t even realize their doing this to guys. Guys don’t even realize it’s happening until it’s too late.
@globetrotter22 that's mostly true, but men do the exact same thing when looking for someone to date.
Most men don’t naturally “test” women unless they are just on the fence, paranoid or very picky. We are usually more opened minded and easy going during the early stages but we are also more hesitant to commit to a relationship.
Yes some of us just want our freedom but also we have much further to fall if things go south (e. g. men aren’t allowed to show their emotions when they get dumped).
@globetrotter22 of course they do, that what the dating period in a relationship is. It's essentially a test period to see if the person is someone you want to be in a relationship with.
Men are also looking at the top 3 things when going on a date 1) is she attractive 2) is she out of control crazy or at least semi level headed. 3) does she have ulterior motives (I. e. is she a freeloader, using me to make someone else jealous, using me for something, etc)
@Subarugirl to a certain extent that’s understandable. But men don’t get the same wiggle room that women do when they are being “tested”. Women often self sabotage themselves here. They disqualify otherwise good decent guys over something fickle. Then they ignore major red flags with scumbag guys who know who to “play the game” and manipúlate her.
Most men aren’t going to automatically disqualify a woman they see as at least semi attractive who maybe has a few quirks or two.
actually, women are into bad boys
yes they are
stop lying
I'm not lying and neither is the science...
im speaking from experience
and im not so super hot guy
Your limited experience or decades worth of research by psychologists and sociologists….
this is not hard
you girls like aggressive sex
and because you like that type of sex
men who are forceful
make you girls wet
cause you women like to be used
you realize that sexual preference and the human psychology is way more complicated than that... Right. Just because a person may enough rough sex doesn't automatically meant they want to be in a relationship with and abusive jerk who doesn't respect her.
I can assure you that if you came across aggressive and forceful to me I would be dryer than the Sahara and sex would be the last thing on my mind.
hun stop lying to me
you want to be bent over fucked and used
you like feeling like a whore
you want to be smacked around
you women like that stuff
just admit it
and move on
cause as a guy I like
ass
tits
and a wet mouth to fuck
I like smacking you girls around like whores
and letting you know what you are good for
I just admit it
why won't you
I agree with you dude
The only one here who is lying to you is you.
I enjoy being intimate with someone who respects me... you obviously don't respect women or your self. So while I may be into BDSM, I only practice it, if it's safe, sane, and consensual with someone I trust and I respect... and you just hit that trifecta of red flags.
You don't want to have sex with another person.. you want to use her body to get off. It makes you feel powerful and more like a man as way to compensate for your lack of power and masculinity in your day to day life. You would be better off with a blow up doll and therapist.
@subarugirl
I believe in Christ and avoid sex
haven't had sex in years
I do not date women anymore
they have to change or its a waste of time
what I want from women
MOST CANNOT GIVE ME
so guess what
they become sex objects
and I did not do that to them
THEY DID THAT TO THEMSELVES
Doesn't jesus teach and preach kindness and love?
And regardless of what other people do, you and you alone are responsible for your actions.
did you ever think of holding yourself accountable for your actions
I take responsibilities for my actions ever day.. and that has gotten me a loving family, a nice house, and a great career.
Where has it gotten you? Bitter and alone.. looks like. With no respect for women and even less for yourself.
you are going inside the snake
you don't want Christ
you will be thrown away
your nice house won't save your soul
your job won't save your soul
you do not love your family cause if you did
you would try to lead them to the
Most High
and you do not even love yourself
and im alone cause I make the choice to follow Christ
and this is the payment
Matthew 10
And ye shall be HATED of all men for my name's sake:
but he that endureth to the end shall be saved
society either turns to Christ
or they will be destroyed just like Damascus
I will be hated
I ACCEPT IT
my CHRIST above the dome loves me
"You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye." Matthew 7:5
"Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged: and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye?" Matthew 7:1-3
John 13:34
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.
1 John 4:11
Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
1 Corinthians 13:13
So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
1 John 4:19-21
We love because he first loved us. If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from him: whoever loves God must also love his brother.
For someone who claims to claims to follow Christ... you don't seem to be doing a very good job of it.
Hateful, judgmental, and a liar according to 1John 4:19
hun if you do not turn to Christ you will go inside the snake
the snake will be in the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH1uylyEnLU
Hon, you should take your own advice
typical female denial
The only person in denial here is you sweetie. Take a moment and maybe re read your bible since it would appear that you completely missed the teachings of your Christ... or if you didn't, you just completely disregard them.
why would I listen to a women
who says she has been raped
and who has not found Christ
stop it
you sound stupid
Well you obviously don’t listen to your Jesus either
I agree with you for once.
Nice Mytake 🙂
Women love bad boys
Nope, wrong.
mm no... they really don't.
If she's in my m3 then she likes bad boys
I always thought they dislike weak boys. But strong doesn't mean always arrogant.
You can be strong and nice, with boundaries.