Everyone calling this old fashioned or some shit. Its how it always has been. The man is the leader and says what goal the woman has.. the woman wants to follow and enjoy the ride with you. Your job as a man is to enjoy yourself and nothing else
In the 21st century, the man paying on the first date is wildly inappropriate. It sets up far too many expectations on both sides. In the 21st century, it is appropriate for both people to make their intentions clear.
They are just insecure. Once they realize that if they want to be stuck doing everything the guy wants to do they need to learn to speak up and stop being so f'ing mousey.
Or they just aren't interested in me. The last 4 times i've gone after girl this has happened- -I liked her for 6 months. She led me on and rejected me, slept with the foreign exchange student (he's better looking than me) -Later that year, I fall for another girl, but find out 6-8 weeks later she has a boyfriend -2 years later, fell for one of my friends. Mutually agreed that being friends is the best option for us, she gets a new boyfriend 2 months later -6 months later, met a cute girl at my job. Asked for number 2 months ago and got it. A month ago I ask her out she says yes, but cancels the night before. I'm still talking to her but I initiate literally every conversation. Like i'm the one who starts every conversation.
Like I said i'm tired of initiating everything in dating and i'm tired of feeling lost and confused.
A relationship when it comes to dating and courtship to me should also be a partnership. Me and my SO should use our strengths for the betterment of the pair and delegate the things that neither are good at
My time, my vulnerability, being able to communicate and also my money because guys aren't the only one to pay and also me sometimes asking a guy out because girls also ask out
Well it's the man that has all the expectations put on him. Women don't have anything to do other than show up and make conversation, anything else is just strictly volunteer for them.
1) allow thr man to pay for the first date. You can split the second one. 2) be wise in food choices. Dont pick smt too expensive and drain him. 3) be engaging. Dates are about the people, not the food. 4) Be punctual. 5) Smile!
It's the woman's job to laugh at all my jokes, scratch my back after bomb sex, and pretend to like sports I like.
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I won't know the answer to this. I may never know the answer to this, for I have no notion about dates or women for that matter. The women I develope feelings for aren't generally attracted me. So what's the point in making an effort. Ever been so single for so long that you begin to not care about some basic manners.
I feel like her job is to facilitate the connection between them. She reassures him, laughs at him and helps to create the environment for their love to grow together
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Everyone calling this old fashioned or some shit. Its how it always has been. The man is the leader and says what goal the woman has.. the woman wants to follow and enjoy the ride with you. Your job as a man is to enjoy yourself and nothing else
As far as I’m concerned, there are no defined “jobs” or rules for either the man or the woman in dating and courtship.
In the 21st century, the man paying on the first date is wildly inappropriate. It sets up far too many expectations on both sides. In the 21st century, it is appropriate for both people to make their intentions clear.
To be flexible and understanding. To make it not just the man's job. It takes two.
But let’s be honest girls (not all but a lot) expect the guy to initiate everything, at least that’s been my experience
They are just insecure. Once they realize that if they want to be stuck doing everything the guy wants to do they need to learn to speak up and stop being so f'ing mousey.
Or they just aren't interested in me. The last 4 times i've gone after girl this has happened-
-I liked her for 6 months. She led me on and rejected me, slept with the foreign exchange student (he's better looking than me)
-Later that year, I fall for another girl, but find out 6-8 weeks later she has a boyfriend
-2 years later, fell for one of my friends. Mutually agreed that being friends is the best option for us, she gets a new boyfriend 2 months later
-6 months later, met a cute girl at my job. Asked for number 2 months ago and got it. A month ago I ask her out she says yes, but cancels the night before. I'm still talking to her but I initiate literally every conversation. Like i'm the one who starts every conversation.
Like I said i'm tired of initiating everything in dating and i'm tired of feeling lost and confused.
Win some loose some it's all in the name of dating.
I've never won
Honestly, the future heart break and let down doesn't seem really worth it.
No but the potential success is worth it
A relationship when it comes to dating and courtship to me should also be a partnership. Me and my SO should use our strengths for the betterment of the pair and delegate the things that neither are good at
My time, my vulnerability, being able to communicate and also my money because guys aren't the only one to pay and also me sometimes asking a guy out because girls also ask out
Well it's the man that has all the expectations put on him. Women don't have anything to do other than show up and make conversation, anything else is just strictly volunteer for them.
1) allow thr man to pay for the first date. You can split the second one.
2) be wise in food choices. Dont pick smt too expensive and drain him.
3) be engaging. Dates are about the people, not the food.
4) Be punctual.
5) Smile!
If what you are saying is what happens then genuine appreciation is what’s required by us.
HAHAHA all these butthurt feminist here. The job of a woman is to open up emotionally. Because that's though for most guys.
I am always entertained by the vast difference between what women say and what they actually do. LOL
Exactly! Just look at the guys they date lol. Then they want the provider after they have completely exhausted every other avenue.
They have to take the time to judge all of their various suitors and determine which one is worthy of the privledge of dating them.
Can't tell if serious.
In my experience, its been me to do all three. Its men who are obsessed with roles in dates, not women.
It costs more for women to dress up. It also takes them longer to get ready.
It's the woman's job to laugh at all my jokes, scratch my back after bomb sex, and pretend to like sports I like.
I won't know the answer to this. I may never know the answer to this, for I have no notion about dates or women for that matter. The women I develope feelings for aren't generally attracted me. So what's the point in making an effort. Ever been so single for so long that you begin to not care about some basic manners.
Well regardless what anyone says here
In reality, in practical terms - women hate paying for dates especially first dates!
I feel like her job is to facilitate the connection between them. She reassures him, laughs at him and helps to create the environment for their love to grow together
To be herself, to want her date to be themselves, and to try to have a good time if possible.
1. Show up on time.
2. Keep up current on birth control.