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Why do women expect so much out of men? (Page 2)
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Women are looking for a soulmate while guys just want to pipe as many as they can, so we have to pick the right guy who won’t ruin our lives.
And yet you chase bad boys who ruin your lives.
@sonnysunshine No... They chase men that take decisions and have an air of mystery. Part of the allure is that they don't need to make decisions, the bad boy has taken care of it (albeit, not in the way you would want them to). All the girl has to do is figure out "Hey... who is that guy?"
If a chick took all the decisions on a date (where to go, what to eat, where to park, what activity is going on) then what is she really learning about you? That you are needy, weak and not going to be there when the cards come down.
@Matthieu-G of course women want decisive men. When I hang out with my girlfriend I make the decisions 90 percent of the time.
But I’ve heard women openly admit they were attracted to guys that weren’t going to be good for them. Like a bug to the flame they can’t help themselves.
@sonnysunshine That goes back to the mystery portion of what I said. They need someone they can discover. A closed off bad boy who grunts instead of spewing his life story is a greater and sexier challenge to them.
@Matthieu-G yes I agree with mystery and challenge. It’s amazing how if you ignore a girl for a few days she seems so much more to see you and/or reaches out to you. I read doc love and Corey Wayne.
However society isn’t doing to help young boys understand this and brainwashing them to do the opposite. Women also mislead men by saying that’s what they want (an open book).
@sonnysunshine It is what they want but not what they NEED. They NEED someone to challenge them. Getting free cake all the time gets boring but even a crappy cake is delicious when you make it yourself. They want a nice guy... but without the adventure of discovering him? He is just a weakling.
@Matthieu-G yes haven’t disagreed with on any of that. But I’m saying our feminists and our fucking society isn’t teaching young boys what women really want. Many of them are being setup for failure.
@Matthieu-G you're a fucking genius!
@tonicandgin No, I just pay attention.
@Matthieu-G which makes you automatically smarter than the average
It could be because of dramas we grew up watching lol
You have a point... I get that. We do all the legwork but I think its a simple truth... women have sumthin men want... and...
They know it!
So on that basis they get to dictate
If you find her attractive and she feels the same way you won't complain you just haven't found a match , and if asking a girl out is too exhausting for you then you shouldn't really bother at all
Ideally I'd be fine doing all this
But most chicks ain't pullin their half of the bargain these days
Because they get away with it. Don't blame the ladies. Guys need to stop being suckers. Leave if you don't get what you want. Period.
Because the sexual marketplace is rigged in their favour and they believe that they have a golden vagina.
I don't know that they do. My wife expects certain things from me, but so would a woman at work if she was my boss. Not the SAME things, of course, but some things.
The only thing I expect from guys is not to lie and treated us with respect
No offense honestly, but i seriously doubt that that is all you expect out of guys.
why?
I'm respectful & I don't spew lies or better said I don't make lying a habit or something I do often.
I've been both of those for a good while & my dating life is nonexistant.
Mostly because I don't let most people too close & when I do I'm shown why it's good too distance myself from others.
I don't believe that.
Because if that were true than you would be actively persuing men all the time, which you may be doing but I doubt. not to mention that is a low bar. Unless you expect me to believe that all men are disrespectful and lie all the time, in that case i would feel very sorry for you but i would encourage you to meet other guys because i know of many that have those traits but still have trouble finding girlfriends.
What a liar. "treat us with respect" when women initiate every break up, zero out mens bank accounts and emotionally black mail men into working for them like slaves while having an entire State to back them up.
@TheFlak38 Many guys lie and Im glad im single than and not have any boyfriend or dating
many guys lie yet society condemns them while at the same time it is socially acceptable for a woman to destroy a man's life and society will blame the man again regardless. When a man dumps a woman he is a pig. When a woman literally destroys a man's life it's a again the man's fault. You have an entire system catering to your vagina. Don't complain and don't talk about treating people disrespectful because you as a woman win the competition by your own nature alone.
I'm not mad at women in the slight I have so much respect for women I don't even know. I am not happy I am single. I hope I will have a women in my life someday. You said many, but it seems to me what you really ment was most, or perhaps all, i don't want to make assumptions about you but that is what that attitude says to me.
I think these men make a point but I don't condone they way they are comunicateing it.
That goes both ways for your information and are you just going to ignore the fact that society believes women more when they lie?
I keep asking Michael for a date. Why is he so hesitant?
Well I would assume that a potential partner wants someone who is mature and responsible. I am both of those things.
That's not a big deal to me honestly. I would rather be a guy than a woman.
What makes you say that? There could be many things we have to deal with that you don't understand or are overlooking.
Lol trust me you don’t want to be a guy when it comes to dating, it’s an extreamly lonely road filled with anxiety and self esteem issues
Do you mind telling me those things that I am overlooking? I feel like men have more freedom to do whatever they want. I feel like they are left alone more and no one really gives them attention or tries to start shit with them. I think they rarely get scared or feel they are in danger. If someone wants to attack a guy, it's mainly to beat him up or to mug him. Probably both. But to me that's not a big deal than getting raped and getting pregnant from the rape. I know it's harder for guys to have sex but I don't see it as a big deal. You'll find someone eventually to have sex with and you don't need to be with over 100 women.
@Someguynamedbob I would rather be a guy with dating. I think It would be cool.
Well, there are many things. I can't possubly adress them all in one message. From a young age we are kind of encouraged to supress their sadness, fear, and vulnerability. Also we are kind of always seen as loaded cannons because of our potential for anger even when we are really lighthearted. Women seem to be allowed to express these things freely. You said some things that become problematic without realizing it."they are left alone, no one really gives them attention". This can often make them feel worthless and all alone. In reality we are very scared, and the threats for men are often more ferocious. We are exposed to threats greater than ourselves, things girls often don't need to bother thinking about. Yes, we get attacked often by larger men which presents a suddle undertone of possible death, and we are attacked more often just by simple fact that there are still people who are not willing to attack a woman, thankfully. Sex is actually the least of our problems. I'm not to upset about that. I for one am not resentful of these differences, i love women and i respect men as long as they are not too bitter and cynical. I don't want to sound like im trying to school you or something but these are real concerns all men take into account, im not making them up. there are some benefits to being a woman, please don't take them for granted.
I'm here for the comments *grabs some popcorn* I want to read what women say on this one lmao.
The ones that expect too much of men are the ones that ignore men's inconveniences.
Because they know thirsty idiots will meet their demands.
Because women want equality... but only when it's convenient for them.
Women are hypocrites.
Cuz men think they know it all, so we look prove it. LOL!
What do you mean?
Women are parasites. It's what they do. They suck the life out of their post and then move on to a new one.
Your encompassing all women in this question.
You basically have summed up the whole equal sex argument
The same reason men expect so much from God.
I don't expect much if I'm being honest.
they are looking for a sugar daddy.
Hey y’all wanted to be the providers so provide.
Not me but i do see your point. I have seen it myself. Then they complain about gold diggers 😑
It Makes me want to say: Guys, make up your mind.
Stop caring what women think it’s that simple
Yeah.. I don't bother with those women.
@Paris13 what do you think
Let me see, sis... xx
We do? Since when
in every relationship i have had, the girl would expect me to do most things. such as i would plan the dates, i would message first, i would initiate everything. haven't had a relationship where the woman didn't expect me to initiate the majority of things. and usually it is the guy that goes up to the girl and has to win her affection, rarely is it the other way around
@JamesBoradil03 for me at least can't speak for all women but I'm pretty quiet so its really nice if a guy is willing to keep a conversation going I never have anything to say. So I dont text him first and I'm not very vvocal about liking guys its pretty scary to get vulnerable and a man brave anough is a very attractive thing
true, but most women expect the guy to initiate most things, and it can become exhuasting for the guy or make the guy feel like it is a one sided relationship.
@JamesBoradil03 its a woman's job to give back in other ways yes I dont initiate a lot but I try really hard in everything I can
im not sayig you dont, what im saying is for guys it can be exhuasting and can make us feel unwanted to be the only ones in a relationship that try to do things.
@JamesBoradil03 I know I'm jut using me as an example its hard to speak for others but talk to her about it maybe a woman would try to help you
wouldn't that come off as needy?
@JamesBoradil03 obviously not say you just want to be sure and all that
Because they are selfish.
I don't trust anyone.
dating is not a fair deal for us
Because they are annoying lol 😆
Because we let them.
Because greed.
Nature, culture.