Social media is bringing out the worst in women. They get bombarded with images they “deserve more” and should “want more”. Feminism is telling them that no man is ever good enough. They will quickly find flaws in guys that show interest. They will keep chasing the “perfect man” who doesn’t exist. Even if he did exist they don’t deserve him given their selfishness.
Now this isn’t true for every girl. I’ve also noticed that women are more sexually liberated. They don’t feel the slut complex as badly as they did a few decades ago. This is good if you want to get laid, horrible if you want to find love. Overall I think it’s a bad thing because now guys feel pressured to make a move fast. If they don’t they risk being friendzoned (happened to me).
Thankfully my girlfriend isn’t like this. But my ex turned into a complete Instagram whore. She already was doing the Snapchat nude thing to me all the time. Fun at the time. But then she start showing her bare ass off on Instagram.
Back in the day when women couldn’t support themselves, they took what they could get so they didn’t end up spinsters living with their parents forever. Nowadays, when can have careers and make as much money as men so they don’t feel that pressure to get married anymore just to survive.
I’m personally very picky because I’d rather be alone than be with someone I can’t stand.
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All these women in the comments talking trash about men only wanting sex...
... what else do bring into a relationship that adds value to a man's life? Women have shunned every single expectation that a man has for who he dates and marries, claiming that it's unfair gender bias, yet expect men to uphold traditional male gender expectations.
So a man is supposed to protect, provide, entertain, cook, clean, do yardwork, etc...
And what do you ladies have to offer in return for everything he does?
I work my ass off and contribute financially to the household.
I support his ambitions, goals, help him out in those areas and encourage him to succeed.
I’ve bailed him out of tough situations.
I’ve nursed him back to health for about 6 months after he was almost killed in an accident. Did everything but bathe him since he was confined to a bed and wheelchair.
I’m the one who cheers him up when he’s down.
I’m his partner through thick and thin, through pain, illness, fun and adventure.
I actually provided financially, and all my time to a man who couldn’t run two sticks together. I drove him everywhere, paid for everything we did and all of our food, etc. he didn’t give a flying rat’s ass about doing anything for me apart from wanting to bang me every 5 minutes.
I understand where the frustration is coming from. Now I only go Dutch on dates since it’s not fair to put all that pressure on one person.
Neither of you are the norm. Most women won't lift a finger for their men. The expectations from men are way beyond the 1940's level, but women's expectations of themselves is at rock bottom.
I'm glad to see at least a couple women putting in the effort, but @R_cakes91 now you see how foolish it is to give everything for someone who's worthless. That's how most men feel in the dating world right now. We're expected to do everything and we're also expected to expect nothing in return.
It’s easy to dismiss our experience as not the norm, but do not know most women and how they operate in their relationships with men. The only way I am able to give in mine is because I realized I had to put myself first for a while.
@MzAsh I wasn't dismissing anything. It was meant as a compliment.
I've seen so many women walk out on good men when the going got tough. I've seen so many women refuse to date men because they were expected to pull their own weight. I've broken off so many relationships because the chick was basically a paperweight who expected me to entertain her boring ass like some kind of dancing monkey. I have better things to do in life than cater to someone who has no purpose or ambition, which most women are.
So no, I don't know most of the 3.5 billion women in the world. I do know that I've only met a handful of good ones, and you just get really tired of sifting through garbage looking for something worthwhile.
I don’t know many women who act the way you are describing. Of course, I work with many researchers and scientists (highly educated women) whom most are married to their work. I honestly think there is some truth to women wanting money but I also think it correlates with the level of education. That is not the only factor but it’s a huge one.
Also, there really is no excuse these days for a woman (or man) to leech off of someone like that.
And yes, I dumped that guy after I realized his promises were just words.
I’ve also noticed that the women who get the nice boyfriends are women who have little ambition and little direction in life. Like, I work my ass off to make sure I have a roof over my head. I’m also bilingual, a park ranger, surfer, I am the social party thrower in my neighborhood but I’m the one who can’t find a man who is clean, self-supported, and not crazy.
@MzAsh I don't. I just look after myself and my kids. I have a girlfriend, but I'm starting to feel taken for granted again, so I don't know how much longer I'm gonna let her stick around. Apparently it's too much to ask for a woman to match effort. The more you give, the less you get. I'm pretty much out of giving.
That also just circles back to the fact that you need to make sure you do what’s best for you. Don’t let people take advantage of you. This is true for both genders.
@MzAsh lol, of course it is. That's another thing I've noticed. Any problem is the man's fault. Be good to your wife, do everything a husband's supposed to do, she changes from a good woman into a cheating deadbeat, and it's all his fault. He "chose the wrong woman" even though she was perfectly amazing before the vows were spoken.
Truth is, there's probably no such thing as the right woman. Being a "good man" is for fools.
I’m sure these women aren’t perfect but you’re blaming it all on them and you even attempted to project your own personal experiences on to women you have never and will never meet. Part of your problem is your attitude. You’ll need to fix that first. The good news is a lot of your situation is within your control. But it won’t improve until you are willing to assume at least partial responsibility.
There’s a book called The Bonds That Make Us Free by C. Terry Warner. It’s a lot but it really helped me to understand my part in my past troubled relationships with men. I was more at fault for things than I realized. It helped me a lot.
@R_Cakes91 after this one, I'm just gonna do what the hell I want for the rest of my life. If there isn't anything in it for me, I don't care any more. If being manipulative, demanding, and selfish is what it takes to maintain a relationship, I'd rather be alone.
@MzAsh I don't mean for a while. I mean to hell with it. I can do everything I need for myself with no extra crap to deal with or clean up. I miss being single. I was happy. I got a lot more stuff done and had a lot more fun.
@MzAsh what. I learned it. The only point you've made is that it's my fault. I agree. I'm not giving anymore unless there's something in it for me. Is there something else you were trying to teach?
@MzAsh from what? You suggesting that I'd abandon my children and let someone else step in because I'm not fully committed to them? Or the fact that you're touting a "long running successful marriage" at 34? Or maybe from the automatic supposition that if a good man can't find a good woman, that means he's not a good man instead of meaning there are very few good women out there?
You only given vaguery and blame. Is there some suggestion you have in what to look for in a good woman that would help in sifting through the trash?
Yes. BE the man that attracts good quality women. Such a man man would never... ever... say shit like “we’ll I’ve had two lousy marriages I guess there just are t many good women left”
Well, I completely understand what you mean. If someone is owning up to their mistakes, keep them in your life. There are too many people who refuse to take responsibility for their actions when hurting people.
@R_Cakes91 Owning up to it is one thing: thats a huge step up from my ex. She'd use any stretch of logic to blame her mistakes on me.
But fixing it is what's needed. If I screw up, I admit it, apologize, and make sure it never happens again. Apparently, thats pretty rare. I haven't had any woman who was able to do the same. When you make the same mistake over and over, apologies lose their meaning.
No no I meant that it’s good that YOU are owning up. You sound like a good guy to me whose made mistakes like everyone around the world has. Sometimes people just get it wrong a couple times. And trust me, I’ve known a woman or two who really had their husband fooled.
Just continue to improve yourself as a person and take care of the kiddos. The right woman will catch up if it’s meant to be.
@R_Cakes91 well, at this point the only change left to make is to stop being a giving person. I've dated all types of women, but yes, the common denominator seems to be me. I'm not demanding enough. I don't manipulate. I take other people's feelings into account when I make decisions.
I need to stop that and just focus on getting everything I can get. Guys who only take seem to be in the highest demand.
I don’t think you have to stop being a giving person. I think the disconnect is the ability to distinguish between people who will back and those who will take everything you have.
I personally think it’s important for women to be picky. They want a man that is going to stick around and be faithful and loving and kind and be compassionate and communicate. We women are tired of being hurt by men and I’m sorry I know it goes both ways which is why I think men need to be picky too... don’t just hook up with a girl because she will have sex with you. There’s way more to a relationship then that. Way more and finding someone that is compatible with you is what is truly important.
There’s a girl that really likes me but the only thing that I like is her body but she’s not that smart, funny, or have a good personality so I try my best not to pay attention to her even when she throws herself at me, I 100% agree with the people that say we need to get more picky and people need to learn to have standards, dating around hurts both girls and guys views of the opposite sex, the guys that don’t value girls sleep around which in turn makes girls think that guys don’t want a romantic relationship so they expect guys to just want to sleep around which affects the guys views on girls and it just goes around in a circle over and over
What’s wrong with having standards people? Having standards doesn’t make you a “stuck up bitch” or an “insensitive asshole” it makes you a good person because it makes the people who want you to try and achieve your standards
sure. While woemen largely chose from the guys around them in school or community, now there are far more places to interact with guys, its only fitting that girls, and guys can be more selective. It's like having one mall or department store in your community before online shopping became available.
Not sure why you got so many downvotes. That's about what I was going to say. Back in the 50s, a boy might meet a girl around town, take her to the movies, etc, etc, but there weren't as many places to meet prospective mates. Nowadays, there's a ridiculous amount of options, places to go hang out, and being connected via the internet adds a pretty much "all you can eat" menu.
I think it's justified. I look around and a lot guys aren't growing up and becoming men. They seem to be stuck in an adolescent state of mind and extremely feminine in their behavior. Women don't want a pussy they already got one, they want men and i see our society as lacking in that regard. Fellas you aren't entitled to a woman when you look at history the vast majority of males simply did not pass on their genes. So stop being weak, complaining on how girls don't want to be with you and start bettering yourself mentally, morally, and physically. Hell, don't even do it for women just do it for yourself and things will start looking up.
Everyone’s getting more picky about who they date in comparison to the mid to late 1900’s. Where there was not only a lot less pressure to get married/have kids as soon as you finished university, if not during, but also before the age of digital dating.
Which gave women the ability to choose between 20+ guys instead of just a handful, as well as gave men to just fuck 20+ girls instead of just a handful.
digital dating hasn't made it easier for most guys. It's hard for guys to get a girl to go on a date on dating apps. Many flake out or just like the attention I guess.
@Edanurus Interesting, I had a girl say something similar to me. She thought men had the same experiences on dating sites as her. Literally talking to 20 women at once. I went on her bumble, and literally every single right swipe was a match. She had no written profile.
Consider the same experience for a male. 100 right swipes. Tumbleweeds...
"gave men to just fuck 20+ girls instead of just a handful"
Digital dating provides men to look at more women, but actually fucking. It's hard for a guy to get a date with online dating, let alone fucking a girl. Digital dating hasn't made things any easier for men, but actually digital dating I say is harder than irl. I think women are even more selective with online dating or treat it as an ego stroke many times with no desire to meet a guy.
Depends on the guys approach, which is no different than dating irl. You won’t believe how many guys I didn’t bother joining for food or even just drinks because they insisted that I come over to their place to watch Netflix first. 🙄
Those guys are idiots. I keep hearing we live in a hook up culture, which it's shown or talked about more because of social media. And hook ups happen at clubs, parties, bars and such. But most girls even if they are open to hook ups, aren't coming over to a guy's place whom they just gave their number too whether from a dating app or a cold approach. And don't even know the guy. Most girls I feel need to at least see the guy in person and talk to him in person out somewhere that is not his house. So I believe dudes get way too thirsty not thinking or not putting their thoughts in a girl's position. Like I feel trust is obviously very important for a girl, which guy's don't think from their perspective because we're bigger and I guess more a safety we feel or take for granted. I mean that's kind of risky for a girl to just go to a guy's place who she's just talked to via messaging from tinder or text or whom she talked to 10 minutes at a store from a guy who cold approached her. She saw the dude or only had a brief face to face convo so doesn't really even know him and the rest is text. Like hook ups from a party of such, the girl and guy are talking for a few hours at least in person, so more getting to know each other in person than like the stuff I already explained.
Lol exactly! I even told the guys that I’d feel more comfortable meeting somewhere in public first, breaking the ice and whatnot and then hanging out after. Each time the guy would say some variant of how they live too far from whether I suggested (~10 min drive), were leaving town the next weekend so could only make time for Netflix, etc.. 🤦🏻♀️
I'm not saying you feel nervous about being sexually assaulted, but I think guy's because of perhaps a privilege that comes with being a guy in this sense. We're bigger and stronger than women generally, so there's extra comfort that guy's don't even think about. And not to say that women don't rape, but it's very rare. I feel most guys are decent and not rapists. But fact is still the large majority of rapes are committed by men and women have come across enough creepy men to where you just can't assume you'll be safe unless you know a guy more. You're safety is on the line that isn't the case for us men so guy's don't even like think from a girl's perspective because we don't have to think about that. I think guy's would be better if they tried putting their themselves in a girl's shoes. Like some don't understand why approaching a girl on the street which girl's often get catcalled on the street. Why that can be uncomfortable for women or for some feel possible threatening and the reasons are very valid. It may not seem like going from your guy perspective, but if you think like how would I feel if I was a girl and bigger human beings were aggressively approaching me? The feeling would be different. And even a a man, I'd be hesitant coming to some chicks place who I just messaged from tinder and never met in person just for the fact of I could be catfished, so it might not be safe for me either ha, Because I'd want to see this is a woman I'm talking to thus meeting in person out in public during the day vs at their home and if it is a dude it would be obviously unwanted since I'm straight but also possibly dangerous for me even though as a guy. I could be robbed or something if I'm catfished and the person I think is a woman is actually a dude, a dangerous guy.
Surprisingly im getting less picky. This year, i gave a good few a chance who werent what i usually go for. They were their own kinda hot. The majority in a geeky sense but yea i liked that
I don’t think so. What has happened is that there are so many options now... you can initiate relationships any time of the day 24/7 with just your phone. People used to be stuck with actually meeting one another in person. Meaning you’d have to actually leave your house and socialize as like saying hi to someone at the grocery store. There’s too many choices nowadays and with the divorce rate at 50% people are afraid of making the wrong choice
Exactly!! You’ve hit the nail on the head! I’ve tried the dating app myself and i struggled with it for a couple of reasons. The main one being judging these men on what is usually ONE picture! It is a convenience in this day and age but you could be swiping left on a great match.
I blame social media for how everyone is picky to be honest , social media has destroyed relstionships , and people think grass is greener on the other side by always comparing , ir wanting what others have. To find someone that loves with the Heart is very slim chance considering people today are more selfish
It's a natural consequence after emancipation takes effect. Women will become more independent and self-sufficient. Unlike two centuries ago where men have to provide for women, today's women are now given the same chance to provide for others and most of them doesn't want to marry guys with lower status than they are.
Yes. Data shows that. Women surveyed stated that "80% of men where below average in looks". That's quite telling. Some data has linked it to hormonal birth control which has altered their brainchemistry enough that they have a very skewed view of what is desirable and what is not. However I think another factor is this society that tells women that they shouldn't "settle" and constantly validates them to the point where they have far to high of an opinion of themselves.
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Yes, it's call the illusion of choice. Because of things like tinder, women are seeing just how easy it is to get male attention, when they go on the app and have dozens and dozens of options they can pick from and don't have to worry about the ones they choose to ignore. So women have become less and less willing to settle for the slightest fault in a partner that they normally would have overlooked. This is called the illusion of choice because it gives women a FALSE idea that they can have "perfection" and they become pickier and pickier, eventually they will get to a point where they can't simply get the attention simply because "they are pretty" and they will start to become desperate dating app sludge.
But this along with many other variables are the reason males are starting to simply bail on women. They have become disposable fuck holes and nothing more.
Yeah and that fact that men are too desperate I blame desperate men more then picky women of men stopped giving women free validation I bet women would be less picky but lower men leave the house thinking “Hmm what ways can I validate random women today?”
i like when women say that they are picky because they don't want to be used, when they are the same ones that are sugar babies, sleeping with married men or taken men or have open relationships.
if you don't have anything to offer a woman in today's world then you won't get far with them.
Yes and they should be. Men these days, in my opinion, are hornier. Girls need to find the right man who respects them and wants to be with them forever. Not just some sex buddy. It’s harder these dahs to find a respectful *MAN*.
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Social media is bringing out the worst in women. They get bombarded with images they “deserve more” and should “want more”. Feminism is telling them that no man is ever good enough. They will quickly find flaws in guys that show interest. They will keep chasing the “perfect man” who doesn’t exist. Even if he did exist they don’t deserve him given their selfishness.
Now this isn’t true for every girl. I’ve also noticed that women are more sexually liberated. They don’t feel the slut complex as badly as they did a few decades ago. This is good if you want to get laid, horrible if you want to find love. Overall I think it’s a bad thing because now guys feel pressured to make a move fast. If they don’t they risk being friendzoned (happened to me).
Thankfully my girlfriend isn’t like this. But my ex turned into a complete Instagram whore. She already was doing the Snapchat nude thing to me all the time. Fun at the time. But then she start showing her bare ass off on Instagram.
Back in the day when women couldn’t support themselves, they took what they could get so they didn’t end up spinsters living with their parents forever. Nowadays, when can have careers and make as much money as men so they don’t feel that pressure to get married anymore just to survive.
I’m personally very picky because I’d rather be alone than be with someone I can’t stand.
All these women in the comments talking trash about men only wanting sex...
... what else do bring into a relationship that adds value to a man's life? Women have shunned every single expectation that a man has for who he dates and marries, claiming that it's unfair gender bias, yet expect men to uphold traditional male gender expectations.
So a man is supposed to protect, provide, entertain, cook, clean, do yardwork, etc...
And what do you ladies have to offer in return for everything he does?
Good question.
I work my ass off and contribute financially to the household.
I support his ambitions, goals, help him out in those areas and encourage him to succeed.
I’ve bailed him out of tough situations.
I’ve nursed him back to health for about 6 months after he was almost killed in an accident. Did everything but bathe him since he was confined to a bed and wheelchair.
I’m the one who cheers him up when he’s down.
I’m his partner through thick and thin, through pain, illness, fun and adventure.
I’m loyal af.
I’m both his best friend and a wicked lover.
I actually provided financially, and all my time to a man who couldn’t run two sticks together. I drove him everywhere, paid for everything we did and all of our food, etc. he didn’t give a flying rat’s ass about doing anything for me apart from wanting to bang me every 5 minutes.
I understand where the frustration is coming from. Now I only go Dutch on dates since it’s not fair to put all that pressure on one person.
Neither of you are the norm. Most women won't lift a finger for their men. The expectations from men are way beyond the 1940's level, but women's expectations of themselves is at rock bottom.
I'm glad to see at least a couple women putting in the effort, but @R_cakes91 now you see how foolish it is to give everything for someone who's worthless. That's how most men feel in the dating world right now. We're expected to do everything and we're also expected to expect nothing in return.
It’s easy to dismiss our experience as not the norm, but do not know most women and how they operate in their relationships with men. The only way I am able to give in mine is because I realized I had to put myself first for a while.
@MzAsh I wasn't dismissing anything. It was meant as a compliment.
I've seen so many women walk out on good men when the going got tough. I've seen so many women refuse to date men because they were expected to pull their own weight. I've broken off so many relationships because the chick was basically a paperweight who expected me to entertain her boring ass like some kind of dancing monkey. I have better things to do in life than cater to someone who has no purpose or ambition, which most women are.
So no, I don't know most of the 3.5 billion women in the world. I do know that I've only met a handful of good ones, and you just get really tired of sifting through garbage looking for something worthwhile.
I see. The question there is, why do you keep going for the same type of worthless woman?
I don’t know many women who act the way you are describing. Of course, I work with many researchers and scientists (highly educated women) whom most are married to their work. I honestly think there is some truth to women wanting money but I also think it correlates with the level of education. That is not the only factor but it’s a huge one.
Also, there really is no excuse these days for a woman (or man) to leech off of someone like that.
And yes, I dumped that guy after I realized his promises were just words.
I’ve also noticed that the women who get the nice boyfriends are women who have little ambition and little direction in life. Like, I work my ass off to make sure I have a roof over my head. I’m also bilingual, a park ranger, surfer, I am the social party thrower in my neighborhood but I’m the one who can’t find a man who is clean, self-supported, and not crazy.
@MzAsh I don't. I just look after myself and my kids. I have a girlfriend, but I'm starting to feel taken for granted again, so I don't know how much longer I'm gonna let her stick around. Apparently it's too much to ask for a woman to match effort. The more you give, the less you get. I'm pretty much out of giving.
@R_Cakes91 I noticed that, too. I have no idea why.
That also just circles back to the fact that you need to make sure you do what’s best for you. Don’t let people take advantage of you. This is true for both genders.
Opinion owner, you need to take more ownership of your own poor choices with women. This is a reflection of you more so than it is if women.
@MzAsh lol, of course it is. That's another thing I've noticed. Any problem is the man's fault. Be good to your wife, do everything a husband's supposed to do, she changes from a good woman into a cheating deadbeat, and it's all his fault. He "chose the wrong woman" even though she was perfectly amazing before the vows were spoken.
Truth is, there's probably no such thing as the right woman. Being a "good man" is for fools.
I’m sure these women aren’t perfect but you’re blaming it all on them and you even attempted to project your own personal experiences on to women you have never and will never meet. Part of your problem is your attitude. You’ll need to fix that first. The good news is a lot of your situation is within your control. But it won’t improve until you are willing to assume at least partial responsibility.
There’s a book called The Bonds That Make Us Free by C. Terry Warner. It’s a lot but it really helped me to understand my part in my past troubled relationships with men. I was more at fault for things than I realized. It helped me a lot.
Yeah, I agree. If you let people walk all over you they will in a heartbeat. This goes off both genders.
@R_Cakes91 after this one, I'm just gonna do what the hell I want for the rest of my life. If there isn't anything in it for me, I don't care any more. If being manipulative, demanding, and selfish is what it takes to maintain a relationship, I'd rather be alone.
I think you’d do well by being alone for a while too.
@MzAsh I don't mean for a while. I mean to hell with it. I can do everything I need for myself with no extra crap to deal with or clean up. I miss being single. I was happy. I got a lot more stuff done and had a lot more fun.
Then do it. You should do what you want and your family deserves a man that is all in. Let someone else who is willing to fulfill that role.
@MzAsh my kids are from my previous marriage. Thanks for the judgment, though. I know it's kinda hard to see from way up there.
Hey don’t be mad at me because I’ve only had one successful long lasting marriage and you aren’t willing to learn a god damn thing from anyone.
@MzAsh what. I learned it. The only point you've made is that it's my fault. I agree. I'm not giving anymore unless there's something in it for me. Is there something else you were trying to teach?
Now you’re back peddling.
@MzAsh from what? You suggesting that I'd abandon my children and let someone else step in because I'm not fully committed to them? Or the fact that you're touting a "long running successful marriage" at 34? Or maybe from the automatic supposition that if a good man can't find a good woman, that means he's not a good man instead of meaning there are very few good women out there?
You only given vaguery and blame. Is there some suggestion you have in what to look for in a good woman that would help in sifting through the trash?
Yes. BE the man that attracts good quality women. Such a man man would never... ever... say shit like “we’ll I’ve had two lousy marriages I guess there just are t many good women left”
Come on. Grow up.
@MzAsh one marriage. I learned my lesson the first time.
Doesn’t sound like it.
Well, I completely understand what you mean. If someone is owning up to their mistakes, keep them in your life. There are too many people who refuse to take responsibility for their actions when hurting people.
@R_Cakes91 Owning up to it is one thing: thats a huge step up from my ex. She'd use any stretch of logic to blame her mistakes on me.
But fixing it is what's needed. If I screw up, I admit it, apologize, and make sure it never happens again. Apparently, thats pretty rare. I haven't had any woman who was able to do the same. When you make the same mistake over and over, apologies lose their meaning.
No no I meant that it’s good that YOU are owning up. You sound like a good guy to me whose made mistakes like everyone around the world has. Sometimes people just get it wrong a couple times. And trust me, I’ve known a woman or two who really had their husband fooled.
Just continue to improve yourself as a person and take care of the kiddos. The right woman will catch up if it’s meant to be.
I’ve had to learn how to judge a man by his actions not his words. When I was younger, I got lied to over and over by a couple men. Never again!!
@R_Cakes91 well, at this point the only change left to make is to stop being a giving person. I've dated all types of women, but yes, the common denominator seems to be me. I'm not demanding enough. I don't manipulate. I take other people's feelings into account when I make decisions.
I need to stop that and just focus on getting everything I can get. Guys who only take seem to be in the highest demand.
I don’t think you have to stop being a giving person. I think the disconnect is the ability to distinguish between people who will back and those who will take everything you have.
@R_Cakes91 okay, so how do I do that?
I personally think it’s important for women to be picky. They want a man that is going to stick around and be faithful and loving and kind and be compassionate and communicate. We women are tired of being hurt by men and I’m sorry I know it goes both ways which is why I think men need to be picky too...
don’t just hook up with a girl because she will have sex with you. There’s way more to a relationship then that. Way more and finding someone that is compatible with you is what is truly important.
Thank you for saying this 👏
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There’s a girl that really likes me but the only thing that I like is her body but she’s not that smart, funny, or have a good personality so I try my best not to pay attention to her even when she throws herself at me, I 100% agree with the people that say we need to get more picky and people need to learn to have standards, dating around hurts both girls and guys views of the opposite sex, the guys that don’t value girls sleep around which in turn makes girls think that guys don’t want a romantic relationship so they expect guys to just want to sleep around which affects the guys views on girls and it just goes around in a circle over and over
What’s wrong with having standards people? Having standards doesn’t make you a “stuck up bitch” or an “insensitive asshole” it makes you a good person because it makes the people who want you to try and achieve your standards
We’re starting a hashtag : #bringbackstamdards!
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sure. While woemen largely chose from the guys around them in school or community, now there are far more places to interact with guys, its only fitting that girls, and guys can be more selective. It's like having one mall or department store in your community before online shopping became available.
Not sure why you got so many downvotes. That's about what I was going to say. Back in the 50s, a boy might meet a girl around town, take her to the movies, etc, etc, but there weren't as many places to meet prospective mates. Nowadays, there's a ridiculous amount of options, places to go hang out, and being connected via the internet adds a pretty much "all you can eat" menu.
if you're ugly and unattractive like me you can't be selective.
I think it's justified. I look around and a lot guys aren't growing up and becoming men. They seem to be stuck in an adolescent state of mind and extremely feminine in their behavior. Women don't want a pussy they already got one, they want men and i see our society as lacking in that regard. Fellas you aren't entitled to a woman when you look at history the vast majority of males simply did not pass on their genes. So stop being weak, complaining on how girls don't want to be with you and start bettering yourself mentally, morally, and physically. Hell, don't even do it for women just do it for yourself and things will start looking up.
Everyone’s getting more picky about who they date in comparison to the mid to late 1900’s. Where there was not only a lot less pressure to get married/have kids as soon as you finished university, if not during, but also before the age of digital dating.
Which gave women the ability to choose between 20+ guys instead of just a handful, as well as gave men to just fuck 20+ girls instead of just a handful.
digital dating hasn't made it easier for most guys. It's hard for guys to get a girl to go on a date on dating apps. Many flake out or just like the attention I guess.
@brennanhuff I never said that?
The question is asking whether women are getting more picky, so I answered appropriately.
@kaylaS91 'gave men to just fuck 20+ girls instead of just a handful'
Thats not how online dating works for guys.
@Edanurus Interesting, I had a girl say something similar to me. She thought men had the same experiences on dating sites as her. Literally talking to 20 women at once. I went on her bumble, and literally every single right swipe was a match. She had no written profile.
Consider the same experience for a male. 100 right swipes. Tumbleweeds...
"gave men to just fuck 20+ girls instead of just a handful"
Digital dating provides men to look at more women, but actually fucking. It's hard for a guy to get a date with online dating, let alone fucking a girl. Digital dating hasn't made things any easier for men, but actually digital dating I say is harder than irl. I think women are even more selective with online dating or treat it as an ego stroke many times with no desire to meet a guy.
Depends on the guys approach, which is no different than dating irl. You won’t believe how many guys I didn’t bother joining for food or even just drinks because they insisted that I come over to their place to watch Netflix first. 🙄
Those guys are idiots. I keep hearing we live in a hook up culture, which it's shown or talked about more because of social media. And hook ups happen at clubs, parties, bars and such. But most girls even if they are open to hook ups, aren't coming over to a guy's place whom they just gave their number too whether from a dating app or a cold approach. And don't even know the guy. Most girls I feel need to at least see the guy in person and talk to him in person out somewhere that is not his house. So I believe dudes get way too thirsty not thinking or not putting their thoughts in a girl's position. Like I feel trust is obviously very important for a girl, which guy's don't think from their perspective because we're bigger and I guess more a safety we feel or take for granted. I mean that's kind of risky for a girl to just go to a guy's place who she's just talked to via messaging from tinder or text or whom she talked to 10 minutes at a store from a guy who cold approached her. She saw the dude or only had a brief face to face convo so doesn't really even know him and the rest is text. Like hook ups from a party of such, the girl and guy are talking for a few hours at least in person, so more getting to know each other in person than like the stuff I already explained.
Lol exactly! I even told the guys that I’d feel more comfortable meeting somewhere in public first, breaking the ice and whatnot and then hanging out after. Each time the guy would say some variant of how they live too far from whether I suggested (~10 min drive), were leaving town the next weekend so could only make time for Netflix, etc..
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I'm not saying you feel nervous about being sexually assaulted, but I think guy's because of perhaps a privilege that comes with being a guy in this sense. We're bigger and stronger than women generally, so there's extra comfort that guy's don't even think about. And not to say that women don't rape, but it's very rare. I feel most guys are decent and not rapists. But fact is still the large majority of rapes are committed by men and women have come across enough creepy men to where you just can't assume you'll be safe unless you know a guy more. You're safety is on the line that isn't the case for us men so guy's don't even like think from a girl's perspective because we don't have to think about that. I think guy's would be better if they tried putting their themselves in a girl's shoes. Like some don't understand why approaching a girl on the street which girl's often get catcalled on the street. Why that can be uncomfortable for women or for some feel possible threatening and the reasons are very valid. It may not seem like going from your guy perspective, but if you think like how would I feel if I was a girl and bigger human beings were aggressively approaching me? The feeling would be different. And even a a man, I'd be hesitant coming to some chicks place who I just messaged from tinder and never met in person just for the fact of I could be catfished, so it might not be safe for me either ha, Because I'd want to see this is a woman I'm talking to thus meeting in person out in public during the day vs at their home and if it is a dude it would be obviously unwanted since I'm straight but also possibly dangerous for me even though as a guy. I could be robbed or something if I'm catfished and the person I think is a woman is actually a dude, a dangerous guy.
Surprisingly im getting less picky. This year, i gave a good few a chance who werent what i usually go for. They were their own kinda hot. The majority in a geeky sense but yea i liked that
I'm the opposite of hot lol
I don’t think so. What has happened is that there are so many options now... you can initiate relationships any time of the day 24/7 with just your phone. People used to be stuck with actually meeting one another in person. Meaning you’d have to actually leave your house and socialize as like saying hi to someone at the grocery store. There’s too many choices nowadays and with the divorce rate at 50% people are afraid of making the wrong choice
Read my response please and tell me what you think?
Exactly!! You’ve hit the nail on the head! I’ve tried the dating app myself and i struggled with it for a couple of reasons. The main one being judging these men on what is usually ONE picture! It is a convenience in this day and age but you could be swiping left on a great match.
I blame social media for how everyone is picky to be honest , social media has destroyed relstionships , and people think grass is greener on the other side by always comparing , ir wanting what others have. To find someone that loves with the Heart is very slim chance considering people today are more selfish
It's a natural consequence after emancipation takes effect. Women will become more independent and self-sufficient. Unlike two centuries ago where men have to provide for women, today's women are now given the same chance to provide for others and most of them doesn't want to marry guys with lower status than they are.
Yes. Data shows that. Women surveyed stated that "80% of men where below average in looks". That's quite telling. Some data has linked it to hormonal birth control which has altered their brainchemistry enough that they have a very skewed view of what is desirable and what is not. However I think another factor is this society that tells women that they shouldn't "settle" and constantly validates them to the point where they have far to high of an opinion of themselves.
Yes, it's call the illusion of choice.
Because of things like tinder, women are seeing just how easy it is to get male attention, when they go on the app and have dozens and dozens of options they can pick from and don't have to worry about the ones they choose to ignore.
So women have become less and less willing to settle for the slightest fault in a partner that they normally would have overlooked.
This is called the illusion of choice because it gives women a FALSE idea that they can have "perfection" and they become pickier and pickier, eventually they will get to a point where they can't simply get the attention simply because "they are pretty" and they will start to become desperate dating app sludge.
But this along with many other variables are the reason males are starting to simply bail on women. They have become disposable fuck holes and nothing more.
Yeah and that fact that men are too desperate I blame desperate men more then picky women of men stopped giving women free validation I bet women would be less picky but lower men leave the house thinking “Hmm what ways can I validate random women today?”
This. If your profile age is your real age I'm glad you can see this so early on in life!
i like when women say that they are picky because they don't want to be used, when they are the same ones that are sugar babies, sleeping with married men or taken men or have open relationships.
if you don't have anything to offer a woman in today's world then you won't get far with them.
Like 60% of your average everyday girls will reject a man on looks alone.
Noticed this senen guys nicely aproach women to initiate converstion and get shut down with just "No" "eww" just for saying hi.
80% of men not that good looking then 40% of women will be alone forever
Or those 30% quality males will get 2 - 3 women at the same time if women accept it.
Yes and they should be. Men these days, in my opinion, are hornier. Girls need to find the right man who respects them and wants to be with them forever. Not just some sex buddy. It’s harder these dahs to find a respectful *MAN*.
Haha you are looking typical nice guy and they are unattractive
Some are but they have the ability to with how online dating works
Yeah and inflated ego's from all the likes on social media, I've seen it happen with people i know.
This is how life will be going forward