I was picky once. Got abused. Then left the guy & was stalked for 2 years. He'd probably be still stalking me 20 years later. But the guys been in jail multiple times according to the mug shots online. Last year on google I saw he robbed a bank & tried to pled he was insane & not aware it was wrong to rob a bank. After my experience with that loser. I pay more attention to my instincts
The problem is your unrealistic expectations, and not knowing what type of person is actually right for you. It's not about just you pay attention to your instincts is about how you were taught and what you actually thought what a man actually is. A lot of these guys today are not men. You sadly got caught up with the type of person that was hell-bent on destroying your life and clearly ended up making an example out of you of your naiveness. You're very blessed that you did not end up dead. I am simply talking about when you already have the right mind frame, the right mindset, you brought up with morals, you understand Godly values, you filled with both the knowledge and wisdom to how to properly navigate into this world, and you know better not to be dating strangers in a close friend that you know for a very long time. When you date strangers sadly that's exactly what ends up happening. They don't know you, they owe you nothing. You owe it to yourself to be more safer and aware of who you allow in your life.
Never judge a person by their physical appearance such as their looks. You judge a person by their character.
God remove bad people from your life let alone not allow them to cross your path if you only he to his warnings and stay underneath his covering. But when you choose to go out of his will and choose to do you're will that's exactly what happens to people. I learned that the hard way when I was 19 years old.
I use to like a guy I knew a little for along time. Then after 20 years of knowing him. He started making racist, homophobic & making sexual comments about women. I dodged a bullet when he told me he doesn't like me that way. I stopped talking to him early this year. So you could think someone is nice for years & they could change
Plus he was saying how he knows I have sexual fantasies about another guy & he was making me uncomfortable, angry etc
Oh trust me, he had a lot of signs that shown he got issues. The problem is you were too focused on his niceness and not who he could really be behind the mask. b that's why you need somebody who is far more experienced on those levels to be able to help guide you into what kind of person is okay for you to be around who's not. All those things you are telling me all red flags. They often times already had these ideas for many years you just never seen their true colors up into now.
Seeing my mother on her deathbed because of her sexual choices*Sorry for many typos *
Can be responsible for my own*
He never acted that way. Until me knowing him for 20 year's. His own family, friends & co workers even asked me if I noticed a change in him. I said yes he's not acting right or he's finally just is showing his true colors
Of course he's never going to act that way because that's all on the surface. The point is you're not the one that's monitoring his life 24/7 every single day for the rest of his life. You're not God. The only one who knows that for sure is God. If you see any kind of problems What description see, you got to question it right away.
Couldn't agree more. When people had structure and followed order with nature things went smooth as soon as we decided to fuck around like animals instead of marrying people and asking for daughter's hand be dating or otherwise respect went out the door for parents. Girls coming home pregnant out of wedlock has become the norm.
Marriage rate, divorce rate, sex before marriage, frequency of cheating no of sexual partners, age of first sexual encounter. Some metrics that can measure pickyness
I wouldn't say it's necessarily that those girls need to be more picky, I'd say they need to change what they want. When a girl wants a thug drug dealer who used to sell to their best friend of 15 years (not making this up), you know she's clearly picking the wrong guys.
@Rangers Yeah you just proved what i was saying. This is reason why we need to be more pickier so we can stop being blamed for choosing the wrong men. If have good examples of what a man should be and does then we won't have these issues any longer but the second women try to do this, we get bashed for it.
I guess this is one way to cope with losing the game. Enjoy your plastic.
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Well enjoy golddiggers then
@traveltheworld - About the dumbest comment any woman could make. So you would rather date a dead broke guy? Fool.
I'm not into guys that are materialistic or cocky.
@traveltheworld - And you're a fool. No woman wants a man that cannot support her and and the 84 children she wants to have with him. It's not about being materialistic and cocky, although confidence is key, it's about simply being competent. You're saying you would rather choose a loser. FAIL.
I'm in my early 20s nobody is has it together at this age.
I'm more successful than the guys I've met travelled the world, moved to Canada and graduated last year. While they have barely left their hometown.
@traveltheworld - Wrong again. My youngest got a masters degree in four years, recruited by a tech giant, started at a buck-fifty. Getting ready to buy a house - almost 24. Of course a smart girl who also got a masters in four has snagged him. He's a catch. They're out there, but they're not a fuck-buddy or a badboy. Oh well. You lose.
Yes depends where you are from but if you come from a small place from the scottish highlands many people haven't got it. No opportunities that's why I moved. Good for him tho I have other goals than that stuff
@traveltheworld - Sounds like you're broadening your horizons. Good for you. While we're a product of our environment and our upbringing, we are only bound to the limits of our own imagination. The question was are women more picky. And I say it's not that, it's the FI that has claimed what they want in men, then reject what they have become. Women are always and have always, been drawn to good looking successful men that are actually going someplace and being someone. That has not changed. But there are a ton of guys that simply don't and cannot measure up. They've literally given up trying to be a real man. Hell, we got a whole segment that thinks a real man is toxic. Oh well, a bunch of losers.
Would you say guys would find it intimidating if the women did more like if she travelled, in better shape, University student and immigrated to another country. I have dated guys who have actually asked me what impresses me on the date. You gave a good answer about guys tho but yes I feel it's odd if I dated someone with no drive or ambition and if they aren't in good shape
@traveltheworld - Ah, so the truth comes out. Guys simply are not intimidated by anything a woman does or is, unless she is physically going to kick his ass. No, the NUMBER ONE priority is HER attraction and desire for HIM. What you do or have done, where you went to school, where you're from, where you work, is way secondary. Your looks and your desire are what pulls them in. And you have to choose a man worth caring for, and be willing to do for him. When all the pieces fit it's a dynamic relationship indeed. When they don't it implodes, it fails. Choose wisely, treat kindly. __Dr. Laura
I had a crazy fuck boy before who wanted me film girls in a locker room and fo other pretty bad things. So I have had a pretty bad experience and scared to get into anything again
@traveltheworld - Living life 'scared' is a giant fail. Don't judge all people for the actions of one. And what you get out of life and relationships is in direct proportion to what you put in. I know that's stating the obvious, but most people have been brainwashed into thinking they are somehow entitled, are deserving of something, anything. They're just not - you get what you get for the effort and work you put in, just like everybody else.
Yes you are right about that thanks
I'm reading your conversation here with a high interest.I see some things here overlapping with what's going on in my life.What if you're a late bloomer like i am and get your bachelors of science degree in 25 due to the very rough and broke backgrounds of upbringing (needless to say to be at a disadvantage in life)? Any advise to keep the course or accelerate to catch up on time? What are the best ways to manage life as a young man in my case?
@Unit1 - You keep at it until you reach the success you desire. No excuses - don't blame anything or anyone, or your timeline, none of that, just keep at it and NEVER give up. Do this for YOU, not anyone else. When a man is focused on his life mission, his goals and aspirations, he tunes out all the static. And low and behold you'll meet a bright and cheery woman that will want to hitch her wagon to you, and share your life with you. But none of this happens in a vacuum - YOU have to make it happen. The one common thing amongst all successful people is that they never give up. EVER. They keep at it until they reach their goal. Your age is irrelevant.
Sounds marvelous! I will adopt that.Say, you keep telling men to work out at the gym and earning mountains of money in order to attract women. I understand the money earning thing but what exactly has working out to do with attracting the ladies? How does that work?Also what do you tell women when they want to attract high quality men? Do you tell them to work out at the gym and earn mountains of cash or do you tell them something different?
@Unit1 - Something completely different for women... we'll get to that later.If you want some good content on becoming an awesome man go here: www.theartofmanliness.comThere's stuff on how to dress, how to socialize, how to date, how to get ahead in your career, and tons of how to get in shape. That's where the 'hit the gym, hard' comes from - it's part of your 'looks' - the number one thing guys need to get the ladies. You don't have to become a bodybuilder (I did, it was awesome) but being in good shape and having some muscles and some muscle tone just drives women nuts. Their lizard brain clicks in from the cave man days where they chose best suitor to protect them and their offspring from saber-tooth tigers and roaming trimbesmen. This is the same reason so many like tall men as well, or at least taller than themselves. This is biological programming. So of course there are always exceptions, but for the most part women are drawn to good looking strong men. It's just the way it is. And they don't even know why, if you ask them they'll just say that's what they FEEL. It is ALWAYS about the FEELZ. The more you understand that the better you can play to their needs and wants. But you do these things for YOU. You are the one that it will benefit the most. The art of manliness as well as Rollo's rational male both talk a lot about pumping iron. It boosts testosterone, endorphins, all kinds of feel-good stuff for a guy, puts him on top of the world. Even the old MAP of Athol Kay was about the lazy old husband and his 'man action plan' included hitting the gym to get in shape. If the wife doesn't appreciate it and bails, or he shit-cans her lazy ass, he's in a MUCH better place to land a better replacement. It's a win-win for the guy, all the way around. For the ladies it's a completely different approach, on how they'll land a high-quality guy...-->cont
A woman needs to be most attractive to land a great guy. And why their peak SMV is early twenties. All the whole world admires and desires the young and beautiful woman. Their youth and beauty are their greatest asset, above all else. Unfortunately most just don't' get this, and squander their twenties riding the cock-carousel hoping to actually snag one of those fukboyz, which just degrades them to the point where they become undesirable. So sure, they have free choice to do whatever the hell the want, fuck any guys or number of guys they want, but not without consequence. If they do this crap for too long they completely lose their innocence and desirability to any decent guy. And generally the entire time they have spurned all manner of great guys that were simply not edgy enough, and now realize their window of opportunity is closing and they better try and snag one. Oops... too late... those great guys have gotten snatched up and married off, and now all that's left are the weirdos, geeks, nerds, and divorcees with kids in tow. Worse yet, as they hit thirty and beyond, their youth is fading and they now have to compete with the younger, prettier, and more desirable women in the dating pool. It's a natural disaster. So they need to cultivate their lady-like qualities, their attractiveness, and their social skills. They need to date - a LOT - but not have sex with them all. They need the experience in order to be sufficiently experienced as to be able to discern if a guy is a match, if they are worthy. Too many settle on some guy they think they can change and mold and improve, trying to make him into something she might be able to stand to be with. This is a completely failed prospect. It's been said that women go to college, not for an education, but to find a husband. If they play their cards right they find a great guy that's really going to be a huge success, and 'hitch their wagon' to him. It can be a great opportunity and a successful relationship.
Very interesting. I will check it out piece by piece.That attitude smells like being a winner. Nice!
@Unit1 - There's lots more here: www.therationalmale.comDid I send this one? www.theartofmanliness.com
Saved! I will find some time to read some of those piece by piece.
theartofmanliness is down. I got some error message from Dreamhost, that the website was not found.
@Unit1 - The content of Rollo Tomassi is more like a lifelong commitment. This becomes who you are as a man. And it helps unlock the secrets of why and how women think, and what drives them. You can get a point where you understand them and what they need better than they do. Oh boy, that can really piss them off. Or it's like you're magic, all depending on the situation. Men and women really are drastically different, in almost everything. But the entire FI has been built on the mistaken belief that men and women are the same, completely equal and identical humans inhabiting the planet. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Probly a typo...Try this: https://www.artofmanliness.com/
Got it! This one works. I saved it as well!
To picky is a good thing I like it
Why u personally attacking the OP? He asked a general question
@Prof_Don I wasn't attacking him. Usually these questions stem from personal struggles.
@Kas19 stop you're gonna make the asker cry
Usually being the key word there. Im Speaking in general and there's a lot of people suggesting women are more picky. I see obese women only talk to real fit dudes.😂
Noticed this senen guys nicely aproach women to initiate converstion and get shut down with just "No" "eww" just for saying hi.
80% of men not that good looking then 40% of women will be alone forever
Or those 30% quality males will get 2 - 3 women at the same time if women accept it.
What you describe there being an apparent lack of in the modern world, is nothing more than a beta male, a pushover, not a provider and protector.Someone who appeases the woman with what he has to offer materially, is not indicative of why women are apparently more "picky" these days. Paradoxically, it's the over abundance of cucked simpletons who can't keep their women, despite their material goods, which are driving the ever widening statistical wedge.
you women are the issue its all over the internet
@incelsr You could at least try not to live up to your username.
@incelsr Uh, no, you literally can't. Sorry to break it to you.
@Incelsr Please get therapy
Same thing with women you guys pick the wrong guy , he ruins your life and you start to hate all men
@mafiaman No one mentioned hating men, just having better standards so we don't end up int he same situation with a shitty man.
@Kas19 oh no no no NO don't play "im a woman I'm always the victim " you think I'm joking look at modern day feminist
Personally I’ve had a roller coaster experience with women. On one hand, I would prefer to meet a girl and get to know her and love her for her.At the same time, I’ve realized that “player” behavior is what women really respond to. Unless I act like a player girls just don’t care. So it’s like, what do I do? Stay alone forever, or act like aayer. I don’t want to value just the as and the pussy. I want so much more. But I feel as though I have no chance unless I act like a player. It really is bothering me now because being a player is too much work. Lol. Like Jesus Christ it’s kind of annoying but it’s fun because I can get girls and hug and kiss them and have fun. But the. I have to be mr player all the time. I wish I could just be myself. But girls want more than what most men have. They want something more. That playerness but without being a player. Being a player who only fucks one girl. That’s what girls what.
@incelsr wow you really are an incel now I'm usually the one who calls women out on their bullshit when their being arseholes which they are 9/10 but you are just talking about fucking raping women dude you should be ashamed of yourself and if you think your genitalia or your strength makes you better your a fucking imbecile and the same goes to women who think their entitled to top men or any man for that matter because they were born with a vagina are total imbeciles but dude you need some fucking help and its not OK to talk to people like that you say that shit to someone in public I dare you you will be arrested and chucked in jail because youv just threatened to rape someone so in this instance I'm appauled by your behaviour and have to go against you
@Cocacolaaddict I appreciate it. Unfortunately I'm used to it by now.
@Mafiaman What are you talking about?
"Guys these days value more the pussy and the ass that a woman has that her personality"This is assuming 99% of women has some sort of personality in the first place, don't kid yourself.
@ForbesMagazine Thank you for proving our point.
@Kas19 What point? That most men want sex and don't care about you? In other news! The sky is blue! If it wasn't for the ability to make babies, do you really think men would pay any attention to women? I have yet to meet any guy that has a female role model, or looks up to some sort of female philosopher, politician, scientist, etc.
Ayn Rand. in my opinion smartest person who ever lived. Is a woman. 😋
@Kaazsz There's a first time for everything, not surprised though. There's a lot of cucked men on this site.
You wouldn’t like her anyways. She is the epitome of a free market capitalist.
@Kaazsz Seems like a Mitch McConnell type, nothing special.
@ForbesMagazine please name a woman that has done something amazing
@incelsr Why are you asking me? I'm not the one claiming anything like that.
@incelsr Ayn Rand. Enjoy pretending she doesn’t exist.
@Kaazsz No one's claiming she doesn't exist dingus. My earlier comment applied as a general rule, then I disregarded you since you intentionally wanted to be snarky.
I’m not snarky. Y’all are just retarded. You could use some Ayn Rand actually. She will change your life and make you into an actual good person.
@Kaazsz You're are snarky, I honestly think you're "trans."
And I think you’re a mindless goon. Still trapped on Ben Shapiro’s YouTube channel. It’s OK. Ben Shapiro is also coming around in freedom. Despite his religious views, he understands that freedom is most important. Or at least he is starting too. Maybe he will run off on you in a good way for once.
@Kaazsz I don't like Ben Shapiro remotely. You don't seem very pro-freedom either, you seem submissive and you'd probably surrender any sort of freedom you have when threatened.
Lol wow smartest reply ever!
@Kaazsz This is entire conversation has been retarded, you're definitely a tranny troll. You started with a snide snarky remark, then you went on to make weird out of place accusations. It's not my fault you cut off your dick, go rage somewhere else.
@Kas19 I saying that even if you guys have higher standards you always and I mean always pick the wrong guy , I'm tell you to pick the "nice guys" either ( I don't trust them either ) and then after he ruins your life , and then girls especially your age will start saying all men are evil
Key word "hot guy" and thats just sex not picky relationship wise
What do you mean harsh?
I meant garsh, you told the truth before I was ready. Let me pan for my pearls all over the floor
Black men do it way more latinas usually date Latinos
better the self for others
Better self, it affects us first.Then the side effect is others will be more attracted to us.Thats how the opportunity is more open.
11 years ago sex was way easier to find for everyone wasn't it. Pre 07' seems like s different era altogether. I bet it was better.
Even men outside of country i know many relationship like that one Croatian guy is dating Turkish girl one Swedish guy is dating french girl i know way more example they all met online and are in long distance relationship.
@Yesplease23 yeah same shit but ldr is so lame. You can't meet, you can't touch eachother so boring.
They visit each other country Swedish guy is even engaged to French girl and he regularly visit france she also visit Sweden often.
@Yesplease23 it's weird. Grass is greener i guess
In my experience I've only seem that once but it's not a one way street woman do it too.
This question is about women, not men, and your single experience really doesn’t hold any water because you’re one person. You are also presumably a straight male so you wouldn’t really know the answer to this since you are not a woman and do not date straight males.
See, this is the issue. When guys are just stating an issue they see in society that affect themAnd finding a partner, women accuse them of being entitled.
So men should lower their standards and find a non picky girl
How do you find a non-picky girl without talking to them and finding out they're picky? Not having a go, I know you mean well.
Why should we lower our standard while y’all raise yours? Single is good now a days, boys.
@selfdestruction than don't complain if you want women to have low standard while you have high
Not saying that all guys are total dicks but there's quite a few out there.
You got a lot of growing up to do. You are 15. When you get older you will see that most men are much more complex than that. Also girls your age often chase boys who act that way. You say you don’t like it, but deep down you do.
@sonnysunshine That's really inappropriate for you to talk to an underage girl like that.
@Kas19 I didn’t say anything graphic nor would I say that ever to any minors. In fact Im advocating that GAG create a new category for adults to chat in. But she is naive on this whole pickiness complex (as she should be). Men are much more complicated than that.
Men have long realised that they deserve better than some whores who just want money
But they continue having a lot of sex with those men. That’s why those men exist. If women didn’t like them, they wouldn’t be like that.
@Kaazsz that’s the point I’m trying to make. It’s better that both genders understand this screwed up dynamic when they are younger. We can phrase it without sounding “inappropriate” (@kas19). When I was a teenager I swallowed that huge lie that women “want a chivalrous nice guy” whole. Unfortunately women are programmed at a DNA level to feel otherwise.
@sonnysunshine I'm sorry that you feel that way but I'm still allowed to express my opinion.Also I dont chase douches like yourself fyi.
@Kas19 thank you for sticking up for me :)
I’m waiting for a girl to explain to me why I’m creepy until I act like a player and then girls love me.
@sonnysunshine You pretty much said "You say you don't like douchebags that just want pussy, but deep down you do." That's inappropriate, creepy, and uncalled for. Also, just because some girls her age may like those types of boys, doesn't mean she does. You don't get to put words in her mouth.
@Kas19 “put words in her mouth”... YOU are the one putting words in mine. You just said all those dirty words. I never said any of that. This is just a pathetic attempt to dismiss my point by labeling me a creep. You girls do that shit all the time. Typical.
And that is why ladies are getting more picky @sonnysunshine is a prime example.
@sonnysunshine Those were her words, but you said she chased after guys that did those things. You know you said something wrong, don't put the blame on me lol. You're the type of people making men look bad.
Not really. Society tells women to act like proud sluts as they deem it as empowering.
Culture is kind of telling young men and women to only seek sex and hookups. It’s fucking ho the dynamic that men and women once had in the dating scene.
@Kas19 no you are trying to twist this into something that isn’t true at all. It’s a cheap shot because what I’m saying is true and deep down you know it but you don’t want to admit it. Instead you pull out the ace hole in one “you are creep” card so you can dismiss my argument. You would do great as a democratic politician.
@sonnysideup Except it isn't true. And you are also a creep. And I'm not a Democrat.
@sonnysunshine Some girls do, but not most. You're* Maybe learn basic grammar before calling me dumb. Because now you're not only a creep, but also dumb.
Funny I was going to respond to her asking for a cease fire. But now I’m blocked. So cowardly.
I blocked you so you can leave Kas19 alone.
Leave her alone? She’s the one that attacked me first.
@sonnysunshine grow the fuck up. You said that I have a lot of growing up to do but you're the one who won't leave it be.
She was actually sticking up for me then you attacked her.
@sunnysideup If you think telling you to stop talking to underage girls like that is attacking you, then you must be more sensitive than I thought.
Personally I see a lot of under age girls as predators.14 year old girls cat called me just the other day! I pretended not to hear. I don’t think she needs protection she knows very well what sex is lol.
@Kaazsz what 14 year old would do that to a 33 year old, & how do you know she was 14? That’s bs
@Kaazsz that's seriously the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. So you really think that 14 yo girls are sexual predators? I'm not saying they're delusional when it comes to anything sexual.
I know their age by looking at them. I know their age cuz they go to school with kids that I know. It’s never one girl. It’s groups of young girls. And it wasn’t a one time thing either. I’ve been cat called by very young teenage girls REPEATEDLY. I’ve had to avoid friends teenage daughters. Because they look at me like hungry animals and follow me around and make me feel awkward lol.All I’m saying is young girls are not innocent. If she’s on the internet talking about sex, she’s not innocent. There isn’t anything I can say that will hurt her. She probably knows more about sex than I do for all I know lol.
If you ask me, y’all hate yourselves. Women are just as sexual as men. That includes teenage girls. You don’t want to believe it because you have a self loathing. You believe that it’s bad for females to be sexual, especially at a young age. You shame them and make them think they are bad. You are all sick fucks if you ask me. Shaming everyone for their sexuality. Especially women cuz you do it to yourselves worse than us men do!
Now all these dumbass dudes are gonna reply and call me a cuck because I support women’s freedom to be sexual. And you will hate me for suggesting that teenage girls aren’t always innocent little flowers.Both sides are blind ignorant and full of hate and self loathing.
If underage girls wanna talk about sex on the internet that’s their right. They can make fake accounts and do it anyways. You don’t need to protect them. It’s only your idea that girls should be these little chaste angels who don’t think about sex. These innocent little flowers that might be psychologically corrupted and partially destroyed by the sick bastard of a man, the evil sexual predator male, who swings his internet dick around fucking up little girls minds. Can’t you see how much hate you have and how stupid all of you are? I can’t stand none of y’all.
@Kaazsz it seems like your a pedophile
A pedophile is someone sexually attracted to ‘pre pubescent children.’All men are biologically wired to be attracted to teenage girls. Just because the law says 18 does not mean our biology agrees.No I’m not a pedophile, I’m simply saying what’s on my mind and you’re choosing to avoid addressing what I’m saying by trying to lable me as a sexual predator, as you do with all men. Because us men are evil and you hate us. And you hate yourself because you can’t admit you want the dick just as much as we want the pussy.
It’s really sick honestly. All of y’all are sick fucks.This is mental illness. When society shames you for your uncontrollable biology, it creates a separation in our mind. You shaming girls for wanting sex, calling males predators for wanting sexy. This is why society is fucked up. This is why stupid conservative fucks are all over he place hating transgender people and women. Because our beliefs are inherently harmful and we breed our own mental illness. Thanks for accusing me of being a oedophile. I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because you hate me because I am a man.
Well honey I don’t hate you. I think the way you think is fucked up and harmful. Same with those guys you were arguing. I mean Jesus they are just straight up retards I don’t know why you even replied to any of them.I don’t hate y’all. I just wish you’d all stfu lol. I guess. I don’t know what I wish. I wish for freedom I suppose. For people to stop shaming our young developing adults and creating mental illness by shaming the fuck out of them.
@Kaazsz legit nothing that you wrote doesn’t make sense, & I’m not gonna read it all because i might lose some brain cells
Well, you could say I don’t make sense or ask for me to clarify. But you aren’t interested in actually talking. You just want to debate with morons like those other two.
I’m not a moron for defending myself. @kas19 was taking some real cheap shots. She’s like a POS coward that punches you in the back of head and then runs off like a total coward when I turn around to see who did it. She got my comment reported/deleted because it’s okay for her to call me a “creep” but I can’t call her a cunt when I’m fighting back. Then she blocks me because she’s too afraid of what I’ll say back. All in all these girls are young and our society enables them to act this way. I sometimes think I could talk some sense into them but I guess I’m dumb for assuming that and wasting my time. Yeah they can get away with it now. But Father Time is much harsher on women than men. Have a nice night.
Yea she’s quite a character I’ve realized. But this is all silly as fuck. There can never be any productive discussion when those who are talking have an automatic distaste for eachother.
Damn. I just read the whole thread. I think everyone on gag is seriously frustrated with dating and the other gender. Would suggest same sex dating as a solution but then I'll just get a bunch of homophobic insults thrown at me and get called a libtard.
All of you are complete losers , the girls aren't listening to logic , they just ignore it and try to make their own retarded logic , Same with men. Humanity is fucked I hope another meteorite cleanses the earth once again like they did to dinosaurs
@Mafiaman nah, we just need another "Noah's ark" and leave the bitter cry babies to drown
I'm with @tonicandgin
@tonicandgin remember women included
@Mafiaman i didn't specify gender.