Yes, a man who is genuinely always trying to be the best version of himself for him and for his partner, who is always putting effort in improving all areas of him and his life is really the best thing a girl could ask for
I think so, if you don't try, you're nothing. This goes for lots of things
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If you try to make her happy, you just end up being taken for granted. She'll just lose respect for you and start demanding more and more. Make yourselves happy, men. In the big picture, making a woman happy isn't worth the trouble, and you'll just end up miserable yourself
I like that quote but I can almost hear the "Trying too hard", "White Knight" bashers starting up so if he is genuinely trying , "True".
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No matter how hard one tries it is impossible to meet feminine expectations, at best a temporary success here and there and fleeting at that. "I'm completely satisfied and grateful" said no woman ever, at least not truthfully.
I interpret the question to mean given the task: washing dishes, cooking, changing the oil.. either you can give an effort that may not be perfect or you can simply be lazy. He’s asking is it better for partners to make an effort in a relationship or just let the other person do it if their effort doesn’t result in perfection
Is there no third option to just do things right in the first place? Washing dishes a child can do and get right.
Would you stop doing dishes because you were single? Keep eating meals off the same dirty plates over and over until they grow mould and you have to buy new plates and start the process over.
Do single people not cook for themselves? Living in a constant state of food poisoning and raw food?
As for changing the oil? I'm mystified genuinely curious what this means? Engine oil? Cooking oil? Some other oil I'm not even thinking of. Is there a special single people oil that's different from couples oil?
Don't you agree the question is overly vague and has not enough detail?
Is there no third option to just do things right in the first place? Washing dishes a child can do and get right.
The idea is some people don’t want to do the task. That may be due to laziness, lack of experience, or (more rarely in 2020) the mindset it’s their partners job.
Would you stop doing dishes because you were single? Keep eating meals off the same dirty plates over and over until they grow mould and you have to buy new plates and start the process over.
Yes, there are single men and women who don’t wash their dishes each time. Very few allow mold to grow however some reuse them once or twice and are less diligent about using the dish washer.
Do single people not cook for themselves? Living in a constant state of food poisoning and raw food?
Yes, some single people cook while others use the microwave or order takeout.
As for changing the oil? I'm mystified genuinely curious what this means? Engine oil? Cooking oil? Some other oil I'm not even thinking of. Is there a special single people oil that's different from couples oil?
I meant changing the car oil. It was a nod to the 1950s mentality of gender roles where the wife was expected to cook while the man took care of the car. I believe in 2020 those roles are obsolete and both people are capable of doing all tasks required both inside and outside the house.
Don't you agree the question is overly vague and has not enough detail?
Some vagueness but the asker can always add detail
No, A woman has very very high expectations when it comes it this, and will never settle for anything less. That is why they always go after soldiers and nothing else. And the ones that are saying otherwise, they are lying 100% weather they admit it or not.
well a trying guy is perfect but usually the female doesn't realize or just takes it for granted so the male ends up finishing last cause he's too nice
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Agree 100!
trying and doing mean a lot always.
Yes, a man who is genuinely always trying to be the best version of himself for him and for his partner, who is always putting effort in improving all areas of him and his life is really the best thing a girl could ask for
I think so, if you don't try, you're nothing. This goes for lots of things
If you try to make her happy, you just end up being taken for granted. She'll just lose respect for you and start demanding more and more. Make yourselves happy, men. In the big picture, making a woman happy isn't worth the trouble, and you'll just end up miserable yourself
Should be. I'd say that the perfect relationship has two individuals in it; their names are Try and Understand.
No. Not only do they need to 'try', they need to SUCCEED. Success is what counts - losers try.
Uh, it depends on the expectations. "I'm trying to be faithful" no, "I'm trying to not beat you" fuck no
I like that quote but I can almost hear the "Trying too hard", "White Knight" bashers starting up so if he is genuinely trying , "True".
No matter how hard one tries it is impossible to meet feminine expectations, at best a temporary success here and there and fleeting at that. "I'm completely satisfied and grateful" said no woman ever, at least not truthfully.
If he’s trying and retaining at least some information or skills , then yes.
What are you actually asking? it's unclear from the question.
I interpret the question to mean given the task: washing dishes, cooking, changing the oil.. either you can give an effort that may not be perfect or you can simply be lazy. He’s asking is it better for partners to make an effort in a relationship or just let the other person do it if their effort doesn’t result in perfection
Is there no third option to just do things right in the first place? Washing dishes a child can do and get right.
Would you stop doing dishes because you were single? Keep eating meals off the same dirty plates over and over until they grow mould and you have to buy new plates and start the process over.
Do single people not cook for themselves? Living in a constant state of food poisoning and raw food?
As for changing the oil? I'm mystified genuinely curious what this means? Engine oil? Cooking oil? Some other oil I'm not even thinking of. Is there a special single people oil that's different from couples oil?
Don't you agree the question is overly vague and has not enough detail?
Is there no third option to just do things right in the first place? Washing dishes a child can do and get right.
The idea is some people don’t want to do the task. That may be due to laziness, lack of experience, or (more rarely in 2020) the mindset it’s their partners job.
Would you stop doing dishes because you were single? Keep eating meals off the same dirty plates over and over until they grow mould and you have to buy new plates and start the process over.
Yes, there are single men and women who don’t wash their dishes each time. Very few allow mold to grow however some reuse them once or twice and are less diligent about using the dish washer.
Do single people not cook for themselves? Living in a constant state of food poisoning and raw food?
Yes, some single people cook while others use the microwave or order takeout.
As for changing the oil? I'm mystified genuinely curious what this means? Engine oil? Cooking oil? Some other oil I'm not even thinking of. Is there a special single people oil that's different from couples oil?
I meant changing the car oil. It was a nod to the 1950s mentality of gender roles where the wife was expected to cook while the man took care of the car. I believe in 2020 those roles are obsolete and both people are capable of doing all tasks required both inside and outside the house.
Don't you agree the question is overly vague and has not enough detail?
Some vagueness but the asker can always add detail
No, A woman has very very high expectations when it comes it this, and will never settle for anything less. That is why they always go after soldiers and nothing else. And the ones that are saying otherwise, they are lying 100% weather they admit it or not.
That's well put and amyone who is already perfect will not be as good as the one who can see areas where they could be better
Why this picture though?
Its a dude trying.. you know... doing the dishes! LOL
No. A man who is true to himself is a real man. Forget trying to conform to a woman's idea of "perfect".
well a trying guy is perfect but usually the female doesn't realize or just takes it for granted so the male ends up finishing last cause he's too nice
" No such thing as a Failure :
who keeps trying "
Blues Traveler
“God loves a tryer” Conor McGregor
Tell me about the man in the arena!
Most common thing my ex-girlfriends told me when they dumped me: “You tried, but it wasn’t enough.”
Effort goes a long way! We have to work at relationships can't just "poof" make it work!