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he would have to be u mean
@BigPhatHairycrap A Transsexual woman considers herself and identifies as a female. So she is a she.
ok, i dunno how u can look past those eyes tho and still that "she" is a man at heart lol
those masculine eyes of hers lol
@BigPhatHairycrap "At heart"? Umm most of the difference between male and female hearts is related to what hormones they have so after hormone replacement therapy a M2F transexual would have more of a "female heart". If you mean in her thoughts, well no the root cause of gender dysphoria is that the neurological development of the individual is opposite of the sex that their chromosomes indicate.
Just because they consider themselves women doesn't change the fact that they are men.
@BlckGrl And just because you adopt a child doesn't mean that they're actually your child ;)
That made absolutely no sense this world is becoming crazier everyday
@BlckGrl What, you think adoption is crazy because the adopted child isn't their "parents" real (genetic) child?
I'm obviously talking about trans. Us women are tired of makes imitating us it's weird
@BlckGrl Aww poor baby, well maybe if it bothers you, (and I mean you specifically because you don't speak for all women) you can make your own little safe space.
Aww. I have a secret your gay dude lmao 😭😭😭😊
so feminine and beautiful with flopping dick
@BlckGrl And I have some basic knowledge, sexual attraction is determined by physical appearance; people don't jerk off to karyotypes.
@Apope16 Don't let ignorant comments influence you; if that trans-woman is worth your time, ignore the ignorance of other people.
@ComradeCarabao I want a child. And I want a wife. I probably wouldn't marry a trans woman. I like pussy not dick. But the question is would I date one or go on a date? Sure. Maybe like friends with benefits or for fun.
@Apope16 You're still fairly young, so I understand that a woman who can't have children may be a problem for you. As far as the genitalia issue goes, a lot of trans-women have had "bottom surgery."
@ComradeCarabao THEY’RE MEN THAT ARE PLAYING DRESS UP!!!
@ComradeCarabao Yes. that would be preferred for me. I would rather have the bottom surgery. But I still wouldn't marry one that has had the surgery. just not my thing.Now to the chic who said its men playing dress up. I guess what I would say is I wouldn't date a flat chested transsexual woman. I am a boob guy. So I would only date one that is like 10 out of 10. So it would be a trans woman who has amazing boobs and a gorgeous face and great style. But there's no way I am sticking my butt out and having anything go inside me. None
@Giselleglow No, they aren't men at all; trans-women are women! When they get on hormones, they often have several times more estrogen in their bodies than the average cis-woman does. They're not only women, they're the most feminine women.
@ComradeCarabao hahhaha just because you inject yourself you’re a woman now? Guess what? Women who are born women don’t need to do that injecting shit. And do you know why? Because we are BORN with it ;)
And what makes a woman a woman are the other aspects as well such as menstruation and pregnancy. Can’t no bloody trans woman fake that natural shit.
@Giselleglow You're just a typical jealous/insecure cis-woman. There's a reason why more and more heterosexual men are choosing trans-women; you might as well get used to it. 😂
@ComradeCarabao ew you’re really so disgusting being attracted to men who pretend to be woman. Get some psych help you fucking moron.
@Giselleglow Attracted to men? I'm attracted to the WOMEN outshining you.
@ComradeCarabao You’re closeted.
@Giselleglow If I wanted a man, I could get one; I am NOT into men.
@ComradeCarabao that’s the irony 😂 you’re homosexual
You’re probably one of those dudes who had their first trans experience in Thailand or something
@Giselleglow I think women dont like trans women because they are insecure and intimidated by competition. I think women dont like bisexual men because they are... wait for it... insecure and intimidated by competition.As for whether I am attracted to men. No i am not. I am attracted to women. I am attracted to feminine nature. I would never have sex with a man. I am not attracted to masculiinity. It would have to be a woman that is so feminine that she passes as a woman and you wouldn't even know she has a dick.But let me be clear. I am open to dating a trans woman. But I date women. I love women and I want sex with wonderful pussy. I am not into men at all. But the question is asking a hypotheticla of "would I" do this. The answer is yet. It isn't a question of "do you prefer" or do you like trans women over regular women. The answer to that is no. I like WOMEN. and anything as close to FEMININE as possible.
@Apope16 Yes, a lot of cis-women see trans-women as competition; not all of them do, though. There are some cis-women who are really accepting of trans-women being women.
@Giselleglow I've never been to Thailand, but those (Thai) trans-women are very beautiful/feminine.
@ComradeCarabao Can’t fake nature.
They aren't faking anything; trans-women are a different type of women, and if anything, cis-women should be learning from them. Just look at how much influence trans-women have in the beauty/makeup community online.
@ComradeCarabao Do you realise they’re men? Who were born with a penis.. who have the male chromosomes.. who have testosterone? They’re men
@Giselleglow You're making no valid points, but you are showing yourself to be very insecure. 😂
Heterosexual men dont date trans women by the way also we are not cis anything. Dont dissaffirm my natural born identity to uplift yours.
Transwomen are not competition lmao. I was born with everything that comes with xx chromosomes also both of you are homosexual and thats ok.
@BlckGrl It's almost exclusively heterosexual men who date trans-women. What identity (of mine) am I trying to lift up by calling you a cis-woman? You make no sense.
I'm sorry that you can't read let me break this down into laments terms
My natural born identity is a woman xx chromosomes that what's makes me female. Trans women are biologically male xy chromosomes that's what make a man a man
@BlckGrl You definitely see trans-women as competition, and that's the primary reason you're so upset about transgender issues.
Ofc trans woman have more estrogen because they inject it we women make it naturally. Just because they put silicone under their pecs does not make them breast they dont even function
@BlckGrl To claim that chromosomes are the most important factor in biology (above hormones and everything else) is bad biological science. On top of that, this is an issue where we should (mostly) be applying social science.
Also bottom surgery is just tucking the penis inside out "penis". Even with the "vagina" they still have to lube it up. Bio women creates juices and eggs ourselves. They have no working clits, ovaries, or uterus. So basically all for show.
Also no competition because I date straight men. Also yes chromosomes are the most important factor not only do they determine your gender but hereditary traits and etc. The amount of injected hormones does NOT make you a woman.
Also yes some men can have FEW female brain traits but does that make them female? No. Your turn
@BlckGrl Bottom surgery/SRS is not just tied to one method; there are even post-op trans-women who self-lubricate, thanks to new technology. About the only thing a post-op trans-woman's vagina doesn't do is bleed around "that time of the month." It's funny that you say their bottom surgery is just for show, since a trans-woman's vagina is much tighter (and stays that way) than a cis-woman's. In fact, they (trans-women) have to dilate it everyday, unless they've had a certain amount of intercourse that day.
I dont care about tightness or your opinion because I dont date gay men
Also a transwomen herself says they do not lubricate. Mild wetness is pre cum
@Giselleglow So a cis women who is infertile is not considered a women by your standards.
And yes womans vaginas can expand very wide why? Because we push out babies
@BlckGrl I'm not gay at all. I can assure you that the men you date would (if they haven't already) sleep with a trans-woman; they just won't date a trans-woman because they don't feel like being called "gay" by ignorant people.
Ok anyways like I said a womans vagina can expand because we make babies
@BlckGrl I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about your "wide" vagina. 😂
Also none of the men I've slept with been with a transwomen
Im responding to your "tight" comment. Vaginas are supposed to expand because we make babies which transwomen can't do.
Please come with the facts not fiction
@BlckGrl None that you know of.. Trust me, if they thought they could sleep with (in secret) a trans-woman like Nikita Dragun or Sidney Starr, they'd do it.
Cool. Anyways I literally debunked almost everything you have said and your only response is you're jealous lol
Nice that you mention sidney star because me and you were in the same youtube live of a trans girl and said black women are rude. I knew I recognized your username
@BlckGrl It IS a fact that a trans-woman's vagina is tighter, and some of them do self-lubricate; it depends on which SRS procedure they had done. Look it up...
@BlckGrl Maybe she (I think I know who you're talking about) said that, but I can tell you I've never said such a thing.
@BlckGrl You haven't debunked anything; you're so mad that you can't even BS your way through this debate. 😂
You just keep repeating things so I guess I will ofc their vaginas are tighter because they do not work they do not self dilate or push out babies. Also transgender have mild lubrication which is just precum
Anyways moral of the story is transgender women are not men and you actually mistakenly admitted that atop when you said people aren't attracted to karyotypes so you obviously know deep down that they're men
@BlckGrl I doubt you and I will ever agree on this topic, so we should just "agree to disagree." I don't feel like arguing for hours.
I will also send you links to validate every point I made if you like.
@BlckGrl This whole thing started with someone else calling trans-women "men," and I of course, countered them with facts. Have a nice evening.
Whatever. I think your confused within your sexuality you think a man with a wig makeup "breast, and vagina" makes a woman a women then you're sadly mistaken.
@BlckGrl Send whatever links you wish, but I can validate everything I say with recent and reputable sources. Anything from a right-wing think tank, I won't even look at.
@BlckGrl"My natural born identity is a woman xx chromosomes that what's makes me female." So if a guy dated a F2M transexual would he still be straight?
@Ad_Quid_Orator Transphobes always hate that question. haha
That's not the equivalent to that. I said a man with a transwomen makes him gay is equivalent to a women dating a trans man she's a lesbian
@BlckGrl Yeah, it is the equivalent. If a guy dating a M2F transexual makes them gay because they're "biologically male" then a guy would still be straight if he dated a F2M transexual because they're "biologically female".
Yep that's what I believe transwomen are not women trans men are not men period
Biology is really so simple
No it's not the equivalent I compared two males vs. Two women that is the equivalent
@BlckGrl Well, no biology is actually quite complicated:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT0HJkr1jj4&t=45sBut if trans men are really women then a guy would be straight even if he dated a trans man.
You are so confused god bless you
@BlckGrl No, you're blinded by ignorance.
@Ad_Quid_Orator another moron who is into men playing dress up 😂
@Giselleglow Aww someone's jealous that they have better fashion sense than your insecure ass.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Transphobic cis-women like her are jealous, insecure, and hard to deal with. They definitely hate all the attention that trans-women are starting to get from heterosexual men.
@ComradeCarabao There’s NOTHING heterosexual about you lot. You’re GAY! The fact that you keep throwing the word “heterosexual” around proves how insecure YOU ARE in your sexuality. Why does it take me, a stranger from the internet, to point out to you that YOU’RE GAY! 😂
@Giselleglow Because karyotypes are what people are attracted to LMAO
@Ad_Quid_Orator Who the fuck are you? Gay boy!
@Ad_Quid_Orator And mentally you’re not quite there.
@Giselleglow Just because most guys would prefer a M2F transexual over you doesn't make them gay; quit making excuses XD
@Ad_Quid_Orator Have you seen me? 😂Also, all the other responses are something along the lines of “No I wouldn’t, because I’m not gay!”. That’s the response of a HETEROSEXUAL male when asked if they would take a transgender. Your response tells me that you’re homosexual and that’s okay.
@Giselleglow Nope, you're too insecure to show your face.
@Ad_Quid_Orator I’m too pretty to be seen by confused homosexual dummies like you.
@Giselleglow What, you got hit on by gay guys because they confused you for a dude? Well now we can see you're projecting your insecurities on transexuals.
Ad_Quid_Orator Could you imagine having to (in a relationship) put up with someone like her? She's jealous, insecure, and just looking for reasons to justify being this upset. One of the funniest things about this whole situation is that @JackSmy (who tried to white knight/simp for her) was actually in my messages about a month ago, talking about how much he enjoys transgender porn. 😂 That's a perfect example of someone getting on here and lying; most of the dudes saying they wouldn't date a trans-woman are just scared to admit their (perfectly normal) attraction.
@ComradeCarabao You disgust me 🤮
@Giselleglow You're all about the drama and being annoying.
Bruh, this thread long. Like really long.
That blonde is really good looking.
@Kishao I agree with everything you said, and the human contact, and knowing the person, as a person thing, but how would it work? Isn't that what you almost asked?People can be so shallow, and hateful, about any little thing! How often do you really find a True Companion, and someone you trust, and think you could love! But then, what if?Is that a measure of us, and the relationship, and our own fears and anxieties with social norms?If you really have feelings, love, before knowing, does it really change anything about how you feel about them, when you finally know that they are?
eh u know what fuck it nvm
for some reason, i thought your answer would be different. are you speaking specifically of MtF, FtM, or either?
@jemismyname I am not saying that I would not like them as a friend, the question was about dating and I have a particular taste in who I date is all.
oh, yeah i guess i just meant, "trans" can mean quite a few things transvestite, transsexual, drag queen (who dresses up as performance art)... etc... i was just curious also if you meant male to female or female to male trans, specifically. (or both)
So would you date this guy?www.boredpanda.com/.../
That's trans and or drag. Clearly said I wouldn't so...💁🏼♀️
😂i love how you said "aht aht aht, i said what i said"😂😂
Well isn't "he" still a "real man" (I mean if he's not a "real woman").
Considering real men dont pretend to be women, he needs psychological help
@SmashingdoozyWhich would you prefer a MtF or FtM
I would prefer ftm because I absolutely suck at talking go girls, they make me so nervous...
*but that girl
So would you date a F2M transexual?
damn u got a point lmao
So would you date this lovely lady?www.boredpanda.com/.../
@Ad_Quid_Orator Assuming that I knew she was going to switch her lifestyle to that of a 'man', absolutely not.
Well if M2F transexuals are fake women, then F2M transexuals would be real women ;)
@Ad_Quid_Orator Well, obviously? A F2M will always have female biology, whether you accept that or not.
Yep, I guess I should also accept that my adopted cousins aren't my cousins because biologically, they aren't the children of my aunt and uncle.
@Ad_Quid_Orator Biologically, no. Legally, yes.
And in terms of my relationship with them: yes.
Maybe it will come back the ability to procreate on our own.. I forget the term 😅
@VIVANT asexual reproductionhttps://www.nature.com/articles/news991223-1
They’re “hyper feminine” because they’re overcompensating, dumbass.And don’t you dare call us “cis women”, we’re the ONLY real women.
@Giselleglow Overcompensating for what? While there are exceptions, most cis-women aren't very feminine at all anymore. Generally speaking, cis-women have become quite masculinized.
You sound quite bitter about it
@Giselleglow About what?
About “women these day are quite masculine actually” lol as though women owe anybody “femininity” to begin with.
@Giselleglow I never said they owe anything; if they aren't interested in being feminine and (at least) taking care of themselves, that's their decision. However, most men DO NOT like it, and the average cis-hetero relationship today is suffering for it.
@Giselleglow LOL!! Love your post and that SASSY CONFIDENCE!! The first time I was called a 'cis-man' I was OFFENDED, and "OH, HELL NO! You didn't just label me with some bullshit, made up term to make you feel better about yourself!!"
@JackSmy 1) Cis just means you're not trans, nothing more. 2) The word came into being for practical reasons, but only certain situations call for its use. https://www.dictionary.com/e/gender-sexuality/cis/
@ComradeCarabao I KNOW what it means, and where it comes from! I find it PERSONALLY OFFENSIVE, like "N-Word" for some!! Don't call me that, and put some BULLSHIT label on me because someone else needs to clarify their orientation! Mine has not changed, and I don't need a FUCKED UP label!!
@JackSmy I know! It’s the most offensive thing to be called a “cis”, when you KNOW there’s only MAN and WOMAN. No fucking transgender shit now coming up with terms that justify their delusions.
@JackSmy If you think a scientific term to differentiate cis and trans people is equivalent to the "N-word," you need help. 🙄
Hahahha he’s the one that needs help? Delusion piece of garbage you are!
GiselleGlow I'm not the one pretending like ignorant beliefs from the 1950s matter.
@ComradeCarabao It is NOT a 'scientific' word, and I have a Biology degree, so I kind of know it is a sociological hijacking of a "science' term, to make the 'term' have more credibility!I stated a personal opinion, and personal preference, and you somehow seem to need to ATTACK ME, PERSONALLY, because I disagree with your ideas? You, sir, are the one that needs 'help' and learn how to discuss, and talk with others, and disagree in an agreeable way!Why is it that when people disagree, here, so many just make PERSONAL attacks against the other, for simply disagreeing!
@ComradeCarabao You sound ignorant as hell and clearly lack a lot of maturity.
@JackSmy You have no biology degree; you just told me the word cisgender isn't scientific, and someone with any real knowledge of science (biology included) would know there are various forms of science -- not just "biology." If you feel "personally attacked," that's your problem.
@Giselleglow You need a hobby or something. 😂
@ComradeCarabao OK, I have tried to be nice. Read what I actually wrote, d-bag, and see that what you are saying isn't at all what I posted! It is idiots, like you, that don't read what people write, and just assume, and then interpret, with your feeble little 'mind' and pretend you know something! Laughing at your ignorance, you moron! You need more than a hobby: YOU need SCHOOL, and EDUCATION!!
@JackSmy He needs psych help that moron! His mind is filled up with all sorts of delusions.
@JackSmy You're "triggered" over nothing; imagine that, a right-wing "snowflake." Seriously, you started insulting me as (I guess) a way to white knight/simp for the attention of @Giselleglow 👎🏻
@ComradeCarabao We’re calling you out on your delusions. You can’t possibly be of sane mind when you’re the one throwing around terms like “cis woman” 😂
Same here; and deviancy and fraud should be exposed in their real character and condemned, not normalised.
trans people aren't mentally ill. your wants and opinions of what is real don't define someone else's mental health. just sayin.
@Dchrls78104 Well I'll tell you what, all these idiot kids saying "Oh, don't be a transphobe, oh, we gotta be inclusive, we need to be accepting, blah blah blah," They say that shit because they don't have to be around trannies in real life, because anybody whose ever been around them knows they're not okay and they're not normal, they're fucking creeps and they're perverts, and they are horrible people to have to be around, and these dipshit kids would change their tune real quick if they had to spend any time around any trannies. They're sick, and they're nasty, and they need to be kept the Hell away from kids, and if they can't take a hint, then somebody needs to beat their bloody brains out and then give 'em an extra stomp or ten to make the fucking point stick.
@Bananaman177 oh I agree with you, 100%.
Not saying the lack of uterus makes him more attractive... just the feeling that he wasn’t born a man. It‘s just unattractive for me.