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I do consider my self a dominant at many situations specially out side the house/at work by having empathy. I do communicate and try to see the POV from each person and try to approach their angle and give them my perspective that they can accpet and understand on their terms. Like i said before! I do read a lot of psychology and i did lack of empathy at the age of 19 (that how far i can remember how my behavior was) till i was 22 or 23 years old. I talk to many people and try to listen all the time and understand them to walk in their shoes so i can help and be happy with them, or sad at times. But i don't get effected by people being negative nor energetic but i do stay in their atmosphere where am somehow happy because of the thing that happened them or will happen, same thing goes when they are sad, i try to give them a shoulder to lean on but i won't let things effect me just in order to understand other people and have empathy for them. Things are on higher effect if it happens to someone close to me personally of course.
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There's more to navigate with pesky compassion and empathy. I can see why empathetic people struggle more with that. I started off probably submissive. The first girl I slept with took over in uni. She practically pulled my hand to her place and took over, and I was happy at the time like some puppy with starry eyes wanting to sing like:
I will go wherever you go,
I will go wherever yoouuu go,
I will go wherever you go.
Just tell me where to -- follow.
But I started getting the hang of things and I liked leading there. It started getting to a point where I never liked to be undressed by the girl. I undress her. I seduce her. I am in power. And when I got the hang of that I also got promoted at work to a lead position. After that, I changed and never looked back to the submissive/agreeable thing. Just say WTF that you want, you know (ideally sober -- I don't always do this sober). But I had a journey there that some who started empathetically might never take -- maybe even many.
I remember when I was younger like I don't want to hurt the girl, force the girl, and I was so afraid of doing that it was like I'm asking her where she wants to go on a date. Then later I was like, "Whatever! Let's go here!", and I was sort of being an asshole at the time but a girl followed me. And I liked it. I liked the control I had there. I get bored dining at a place and I tell her, "I'm bored! Let's bounce!" I couldn't believe how successful that way. I was just in a bad mood when I first did those things. But it worked so well that I just did it until I went from submissive to hyper-dominant. Now I don't even like women asking me out. I am boss. You want me to date you then you can flirt but I ask you out. I am boss. You don't ask me out.
I lost some sensitivity though on the way. I remember with the first girl I slept with, I craved her touch. I liked it when she touched me. Now I don't really care if women touch me. I sorta like the gesture just to indicate what she's feeling but it's really about melting and controlling them with my touch. That's all I like now. I like to control situations. I have lost interest in being controlled by situations ever since I realized how much control I could take over them.
I test like this now but I started out as hyper-empathetic. I probably started off very submissive. I took test long after I changed.
== Results from bdsmtest. org ==
97% Dominant
73% Vanilla
67% Daddy/Mommy
54% Voyeur
45% Owner
42% Experimentalist
37% Exhibitionist
35% Brat tamer
34% Master/Mistress
31% Primal (Hunter)
16% Ageplayer
1% Rigger
1% Brat
1% Non-monogamist
0% Rope bunny
0% Slave
0% Degradee
0% Boy/Girl
0% Primal (Prey)
0% Submissive
0% Masochist
0% Degrader
0% Pet
0% Sadist
0% Switch
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If anything, I'd think properly dominant men are skilled empaths.
But I might be defining "dominant" differently. To me, a dominant man is someone who can command a room, lead, and be relied upon.
Empathy helps in all those situations. An empathic person has an easier time commanding a room because they can read the room, and figure out their course of action based on that.
The best leaders have empathy enough to understand their teams and motivate them.
Reliable people are usually empathic, in my experience, because they know how the people relying on them feel.
To me, my partner is a dominant man in bed and more submissive outside the bedroom. He's highly empathic - more so than I am, even - and that comes in handy in both situations. He's able to "read" me well, even without having to talk to me.
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Oh god I hope not, I love dominant men but empathetic is a MUST in a relationship...
Girlllllllllllll the Doms I've dealt with thus far... Smh... They can't tell the difference between empathy and sympathy... With no empathy... There cannot be submission... So fingers crossed I find one who has got it figured out
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I'm a dominant guy, but I'm not selfish and completely self-centered, and if you've read enough of my posts, it would be apparent that i can empathize with others, even female others.
Being dominant isn't directly linked to narcissism - plenty of men are dominant leader-types without being selfish and tyrannical. Certainly there are some guys who ARE that way, but it's really not terribly difficult to tell the two apart. Most of the time, I can hang out with a guy for 15 minutes and know if he's a selfish jerk or not, and most of guys can do the same, so if you have guy friends warning you to stay away from a guy, take them seriously and pay attention to what they are telling you.
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I don't think there's an actual link between dom/sub and level of empathy.
However I -do- think there are major differences in how these combinations of people present themselves, especially when younger.
I think most guys with dominant impulses and high empathy struggle, a lot, when young with how to blend the two. Ultimately they need to learn to accept those impulses, and learn that some women crave what they do, get comfortable with the idea, and learn how to be comfortable that their kink aligns with a partner, that she's happy with it, and so on. That tends to take time, maturity and experience.
On the other hand guys who are dominant and have low empathy just go around doing shit and seeing if anyone objects. I'd suggest that makes them a crappy dominant, but if you're like a 20 year old woman looking for dominant guys your own age, I suspect this is mainly what you run into, because the guys who are dominant and empathetic and 20 are still feeling guilty about what turns them on.
You get similar shit with subs it's just annoying more than threatening, as they will try to manipulate situations to get off on their kink while not recognizing what they're doing is wrong.
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Certainly per the 2D:4D ratio that indicates mental development in the womb in higher testosterone they do have less empathy, and I know I have much less at least superficially. These submissive men with high 2D:4D ratios might appear more empathetic on the surface with their emotions, but when the shtf that empathy will be worthless as they are fleeing. The dominant male will have the right empathy when it counts to make shit happen in tough times; it might just not be observable with words but rather actions.
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They actually did studies on men and they found that when they gave a man a testosterone shot they actually gave larger tips when other people were looking compared to the other control group. Now I don't know if in secret will offer different results but leaving tips is considered a form of empathy and leaving a bigger probably means more. Now the study could be bullshit though because We have no idea of whom they gave money too because if it was a beautiful woman then that kind of throws the study results out the window.
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No I dont think that always true. At least for a good dominant man in the bedroom. In my experience when a girl submissive to me it's a lot her trusting me so I need to prove I'm worthy of that submission and worthy to take control of her. I need to have a lot of empathy for her feeling, her wants, her needs, fears all of it or else she or going want to be u for my control in a while. Yea I may dominate and I'm. in control but most if the time I'm thinking of the other. How do I get what I want or while not pushing her to far and making it enjoyable for her. What may I want to sacrifice to. make. her happier or to honor her feelings. I dont think dominance always goes with a lack of empathy or not caring about others
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Not necessarily. In psychological studies done on BDSM participants they actually found that dominant men and women scored higher on empathy than submissives. In order to lead well you have to empathise with those you're leading, and you're also responsible for their well-being.
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Well, I think u am both submissive and dominant in the same time. But the part of me that is dominant I become that to a girl who I feel needs protection and enjoys that and it doesn't remove my empathy towards her. Cuz I would like to be romantic as well and I think that is ok
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Well there are many ways to be a dominant man. I mean you have guys that can't get a girlfriend. But they are a top athlete. Or a wolf of wallstreet. Maybe even a big time drug dealer. I mean. But yes. It does hurt to get rejected by women. And makes you more humble.
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Typically? I don't know. You can be both strong and empathetic though. You know, that balance. I don't get why it's always seen as separate. It's also about being thorough too when needed.
That middle ground is where I try to be. Just depends when and where cause I feel being stuck deep on one side can hinder you sometimes. You know the whole, "too much of anything can be bad for you"
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I'm not very empathetic but it has nothing to do with dominance. I'm a switch in that regard but i have lacked empathy my entire life. Generally a high intelligence or mental issues can cause a lack of empathy, so maybe it has nothing to do with dominant or submissive but more about your prefference in partners. If you seek more intelligent people as partners this could be why they are less empathetic or maybe as a dominant they hide their feelings more but do not lack empathy.
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People vary greatly, keep looking and i am sure you will find who you are looking for. Good luck and keep an open mind.
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i think of myself as a dominant personality. in fact it is usually me that ends up with control at work or in group activities. while, its easy i might even say lazy to say i lack empathy, it totally ignores why many dominant personalities are the way we are.
indecision, and inaction are the greatest sources of misery. bad things happen. but you just gotta get back on the horse. its not that im insensitive, quite the opposite in fact. i want the pain in the past as quickly as possible. busy hands dont have time to stay hurt.
as sarah McLaughlin sings "weep not for the memory"
Iβm empathetic to my subs because I treasure them and want to provide pleasure to them. So will be in tune with their emotions and can be an active listener when she vents and feels frustrated. But also have found methods such as restraining her to the bed and sexual games allows venting in a more physical sense which can be as effective for her.
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I'm thinking what you might be seeing is that men who make a show of being dominant will tend to either lack empathy or hide/ignore that empathy because they think it will make them look weak. There are dominant men who have plenty of empathy, they just don't tend to be the same guys that go out of their way to try to convince the whole world of how great they are.
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I think the issue with very sexually aggressive/ dominant people in general is that they view the oneβs theyβre attracted to as objects or βlesser humans.β There is no empathy because they are ultimately living narcissistically and only their desires truly matter to them.
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I think they have less empathy overall but I think there are other things tied to that more "dominant" mindset. When you have a lot of empathy, it's hard to do some things knowing it might hurt the other person, at least for me so I guess they must have less empathy.
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Of course dominant men have empathy. In the world out of private and in private so i hear. My friend Guy feels for sad stories of innocent people especially if it involves children. And Guy does Stu only for his sub, I'm not sure what that means, but he makes it sound like he considers what they need.
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Yes dominant do have empathy actually I believe they have much empathy that they will care for her girl so much and take good care of her also if they don't have empathy believe they must have gone out of control during sexual activity as you know sex makes people forget their senses. But still they are able to control things and enjoy the things and make sure their girl is enjoying it.
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Oh no. I'm equipped with both. But my dominant character came after my empathy development.
I had to learn to be dominant.
I could agree that people who are dominant in the first place, lacks empathy.
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I think most men struggle with it but do have empathy for others. I could see where some dominate men might. Now your beta guys and gay guys will definitely have it.
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I know that I'm not a dominant guy by nature, I've sometimes wondered if it's due to my parental upbringing or the way I was raised, some people think it could be the result of having a submissive dad and dominant mom.
I've also speculated if my testosterone level is below a healthy level, or if it's just in my DNA and genes.
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