@Shiningtempest It is certainly easier to date someone who has he same political beliefs. Easier to date someone of the same religion. Easier to date someone with a similar educational background. Easier to date someone of a similar socioeconomic status. Easier for me to date someone who hates lima beans, liver, mayonnaise, and brussels sprouts. Easier for me to date someone who lives close to where I live. I am more attracted to petite women with cute faces. I hate squeaky voices. I'd really prefer to date someone with some musical talent. I am a carnivore and would rather not date any variety of vegan.
Some of those qualifications are more important than others. I graduated with honors from law school and dating a high school drop out probably wouldn't work. The lima beans thing is not too important. Religion is a bit more important; they don't need to be a member of my denomination, and I would never expect anyone to change their religious affiliation for me, but I would like for them to be a Christian.
Every time I add a qualification that makes life easier, it narrows the field of choices. How many choices are essential and how many are just wouldn't-it-be-nice qualities? I have recently dated a woman who was very left leaning. We both respected the other and never engaged in name calling. . . and we rarely discussed politics, even though we both worked in the state legislature for a few years. If "left leaning" was added to the list of deal breakers, I never would have met her.
@OlderAndWiser After reading your response, I came to the conclusion that dating someone with different political beliefs are undesirable. Hence, narrowing the field of choices by adding qualifications that make life easier are neccessary.
@Shiningtempest That is a decision you make on the basis of how strongly you feel about the subject. If political differences bother you that much, then you are making the right decision for you. I care about politics but it is not a deal breaker, so my decision was best for me.
Older and wiser I'm not sure I agree with you because if you end up with this person you don't want them to just totally make you think they're nuts and right now our politics are such I don't know that it would matter whether you're liberal or conservative you think the other side's nuts
No, that idea is the problem. Yes, the extreme leftists are rather whack at the moment but most leftists are not extremists. And most conservatives are not racist morons.
Leftists are people who want the government to provide a safety net for us. They want government as larger as necessary to do this job, bc and they are willing to sacrifice some freedoms in exchange for that security.
Those on the right want maximum freedoms, government as small as possible, and they will accept individual responsibility for their fortunes in life.
Neither position is right or wrong. It's just two different assumptions about the role of government in our lives.
Thank you said that all correctly yeah they ever point but if he would talk and come to the middle ground it would be better for the country both sides are guilty of not wanting to cooperate with other side I mean I can pick the side I think that's best I'm trying to keep this part you know in the middle
If I had to choose which person is better to date between a liberal or a conservative, I would choose the liberal. While the liberal ideology definitely isn't perfect, liberals tend to think more logically, are more open-minded, care more about the facts, tend to respect people of other races and cultures, and express more concern about the people as opposed to the elite compared conservatives. Personally, I don't consider myself a liberal or conservative, nor do I care about what political belief can be considered "liberal" or "conservative." Instead, I care more about what is true or false. Conservatives often don't care about what's true or false. Instead, they usually care more about what sounds convincing enough to resist change. Thus, I would be better off dating someone that also cares about the facts. Nonetheless, politically, even though I don't identify as one, I find myself having a lot more in common with liberals than conservatives. I am pro-choice, support LGBT rights, strongly support Black Lives Matter, support separation of church and state, support the decriminalization of drugs, among other things.
I also support my political views based on factual information obtained from raw studies, not just news outlets. Liberals tend to lead lifestyles similar to mine. By that, I mean they tend to be more sexually expressive, meaning they're more likely to be more fun in the bedroom compared to a conservative, which I love. If I do date a conservative and somehow we were able to get along despite our different viewpoints, then that's good I guess. However, the chances of that are likely very slim, as many people take their political views extremely seriously. Our political debates are likely to be very heated, resulting in many arguments. As a person that prefers to avoid arguments in relationships, I am better off dating someone with similar views to mine. Also, not all opposing political beliefs deserve respect. For example, a person with far-right political views could be a White nationalist that hates Black people. Of course, considering that I'm African American myself, we obviously wouldn't get along and I won't have any respect for that person.
While it doesn't apply to everyone, for the most part people who consider themselves "Conservative" and "Liberal" are both married to the identity of their party rather then progress itself. They tend to be stuck in echo chambers which inflates their egos via confirmation bias. Both parties rely on emotional appeal and exist on the naive and simplistic belief that issues are black and white.
Going to the extreme, a liberal would say "how can you be against racism" a conservative would say "how can you be against crime statistics" and yet the suppose the issue isn't extremely complicated and has so many layers to it and underlying problems (poverty) as well as non-issues that are carelessly turned into issues (accusing everyone of racism) and only people who have dept, are emotionally stable and have good problem solving and aren't mental lazy know that not everything has a 2 sided black and white / red or blue solution.
That's why dating a centrist is the best. You get the better of both worlds and someone who not only unique by not being attracted to a popular hiveminded political system, b ut is able to relate to all types of people and keep a cool head,
@EmoKate97- that is such a great reply. Smart and articulate, you have wisdom well beyond your years. And the comment by @Light_beam is so pathetic, he really just proves your point. Sadly, he will likely not even understand that.
I have had my fill of liberal ex-s. Liberal women are easy to get; hell, every one of them came to me and stuck it in may face. However, as a partner they are unreliable, untrustworthy, and simply nuts as they live in some distorted version of reality. There is no or even a semblance of reasoning with one. I wouldnāt ever trust one of them simply because they lack common sense or reasoning. The conservative women possess sense of survival and respect the relationship to that end. I have had much better luck bonding with a woman that possesses common sense as being conservative. Common sense is a very rare commodity these days as most are spoon-fed. From a womanās perspective, a conservative man will take care of her when the shtf and knuckle down to make things happen. The liberal male will attempt to roll with the flow and hope that the external world takes care of him and it all works out. However, if the temperature rises, that snowflake lib-male will run and abandon your ass as if he was Frosty.
@TienShehan No, because itās uneducated to have a mindset like that... politics shouldnāt affect your way of viewing woman/men itās completely idiotic.
@VdoubleUp my last ex is a radical liberal. Our relationship specifically ended because of her political beliefs, and I'll never date another brainwashed leftist again. Thats just common sense at this point, why date someone who just yells over other opinions, calls your family racist for celebrating the 4th of July, and is completely guided by leftwing media? It's like dating a teenager
@TienShenhan Donāt shove all liberals into a small box just because you dated an extreme leftist, a lot of us do agree with some conservative views we just happen to agree with more of the left side so we just call each other liberals because there is no in between.
Personally, I think both can be extremists and ignorant in their own ways. And good and bad has nothing to do with being a liberal or conservative. If I ever decide to get married, then I will choose a well educated gentleman. I think the key to happiness is adopting the middle path. I am neither a Kim Kardashian nor a niqaabi. I am always in the middle of every scale. I am 5 out of 10 in another words moderate in every aspect of my life. Moderate people are the happiest people.
Liberal Conservative
Both are not ideal men. Both are extremists. Both have oppressed women in different ways. One sexually abused 84 women whilst the other has 22 wives. So, both are womanisers.
I would choose neither.
However, in conservative societies, rape victims as young as 13 get lashed 100 times in public and even stoned to death.
Put the political connotations aside and look at the definitions of the words from the Merriam-Webster American dictionary: Conservative: " a: tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : marked by tradition, b: marked by moderation or caution Synonyms include: buttoned-down, old-fashioned, old-line, old-school, orthodox, reactionary, stand pat, traditional, un-progressive, not forward thinking, regressive
Liberal: "a: marked by generosity b: given or provided in a generous and openhanded way, i. e. a liberal meal c: ample, full d: not literal or strict e. broad minded, especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms" Synonyms include: broad-minded, non-conventional, non-orthodox, nontraditional, open-minded, progressive, unconventional, unorthodox
Two things seem clear: 1) you don't make much progress or innovation by embracing conservative attitudes only. 2) That dating someone who doesn't have a few characteristics of EACH is a bad idea. I couldn't date a woman who 100% one way or the other.
On the political spectrum, this is my favorite T-shirt:
I'm really not into labeling people in this manner. People will fall into a position of being more liberal or conservative in their beliefs. That said there's a whole spectrum of wiggle room with these labels. It's very upsetting how much generalizing of others is happening in today's society. No one can say all liberals or all conservatives are... this or that.
If you're beliefs are very strong in certain areas it might make sense to look for people with similar beliefs as a starting point.
To do this, I say get to know someone first. Get to know what makes them who they are, find out what they stand for and believe in and then decide if you want to be in a relationship. This short term investment in time is worth it.
I know people who say they're one thing and when you get to know them you find out that they don't exhibit this blanket mold that all liberals or all conservatives fit into.
My suggestion is to stay away from people that show hate in their speech patterns, intolerance towards others unlike them, and narcissistic personalities.
Well if your a women better to date a liberal. If your a guy better to date a conservative is how that one works. Because if you as a women date a conservative be ready to be that women who must fallow mostly what he say's as a good wife and if you don't want this baby cause your not ready well tough not your choice. Women who pick a conservative want someone who is controlling. But then if your a guy and date a Conservative women she has to be your good wife and do whatever you say.
conservative men for sure. If i had a liberal boyfriend I'd be worried if he'd still identify as that one day.
Most liberal men I've met are total creeps who claim to be feminists yet in my experience have made me feel more uncomfortable and disrespected then any conservative man has. Plus most the liberal male i know, cheat a lot and eventually get into a "open relationship" because they can't keep it in their pants. They just act, really stupid and immature also are usually massive hypocrites.
Conservative men aren't prefect i will amit that, depending on how big of a conservative they are. But i myself like a mans man. One who still believes in traditional family values and acts like gentleman without worrying if it comes off sexist. I want a simple man, who can think logically and reasonably.
So to but it bluntly, i want a man not a pussy hat wearing, cry baby.
doesn't matter tbh, had a conservative really fucking ride like an actual horse. But relationship was just that. And as amazing as it was for us everytime, she had this idiot side of her I couldnt stand. Also shared pics with her friends and they were contacting me randomly. I just realized I want a part of it anymore. Kind of ran off. They were all dumb idiotic any real personality or sense wasn't theirs you know? Anyway been in a city life since and don't get the chance to know their beliefs. So I don't know this didn't help at all did it?
Iāve had to cut ties with friends because of what theyāre saying and doing right now. They support defunding the police and all the riots. Itās just plan nasty. Conservative or Liberal- if you condone violence against a group of people based upon their occupation, then you can fuck off. If you support mobs lighting buildings on fire, murdering, and pillaging the livelihood of millions of Americans, then you can fuck off as well. Liberals are pretty damn crazy these days. I thought these people I called friends were normal people. I was quite shocked. So to answer your question, if I canāt even associate with them anymore... then no I canāt date one.
I'd rather date someone with their own mind, not: "society offers me team A and B, I choose team A & everyone on B sucks, is idiots, irrational, even though I'm emotionally exploding on them, being a hypocrite, and not even aware, in thought, or critical analysis enough of my own actions to process this contradiction.
I'd rather date someone who has a mind of their own & doesn't limit themselves, or acceptance of ideas, to boxes society provides, like a competitive football match, which is the source of many issues in politics today.
A conservative , because he will raise well respected Kids and he will provide for them. He has guns to protect them. He will treat his wife better and with respect. He is not as likely to cheat on her because he knows he is also cheating on his kids too. We are more likely to have longer marriage. We are not wimps like Liberal men.
Conservative but overall you should see if the person is good, empathetic, compassionate. People seem to ignore those things and just focus on the trivial surface level stuff. Actions speak louder than words. But liberal guys, I canāt respect them because a guy supporting feminism and BLM and LBTQABC123 is probably a clown.
A conservative says "if it hasn't happened to me, I don't care". A liberal says "This should never happen to anyone, that is why I care". The republican't party only cares about the rich and big business. Liberals care about the people.
@Gmike97 Wow, what a pile of shit. Conservatives HATE. They hate everyone. This country was built on immigrants. Immigration actually helps, not hurt. Conservatives don't care about anyone but themselves. Everyone deserves protections and healthcare. So don't give me this "welcoming" horseshit.
Have you met a conservative? They're still people DICKBAG. We're not haters. We look at the same things and see different solutions, that's it. We believe in the goodness of people and trust them, we don't want to force people to do things. Get your head out of your ass.
I don't hate people generally , I hate specific people. And even then it's a frustration borne from the fact that they are brain washed by corrupt institutions and social networks.
In the American incorrect definitions it would certainly be the conservative, in the correct definition its a classical liberal. They are more likely to respect my own beliefs and agree on major issues like having liberty, having limited governament control and being allowed to disagree.
depends... if the conservative is a religious nut then no thanks and if the liberal is a virtue signaller with no real understanding of marx or debord then im also not interested... infact as a lefty myself those people piss me off even more than the far right
I really don't know. But I'm open to either; I don't judge someone by their political beliefs. My only standard is that she's against abortion, because I can't be with someone who thinks it's okay to kill a baby. That shows that they have a lack of a moral compass.
Its in regard to the individual. I personally don't like hardliners.
Too conservative is tied by tradition too much, too rigid, closed minded and act like ants its in their pants.
Too liberal is a problem as well as these people tend to show no restraint, and reject some good tradition for the sake of being progressive which isn't good.
Most people are moderates so find one that leans slightly left if you like that sorta thing or slightly right if that is more your speed. Anything too extreme on the left or right is bad news. I prefer scientific people over religious/superstitious so I would go slightly left, just like any smart person would. :)
The important thing is if they're tolerable and can tolerate your views and you can have amicable conversations about the political topics. If you can hear each other out. I also think it's better to date someone of opposing views, provided it's amicable and tolerable. You will be challenged in a healthy way.
I mean, that's a personal choice. I personally don't find conservative women in any way attractive or dateable, so my choice would be a liberal.
But, ideally, I wish to date someone who identifies as neither. The label I most want to hear is either left-leaning moderate/libertarian or apolitical (in the actual meaning of the word).
I would never date a conservative girl. I'm a liberal, I want my partner to be equally respected and share responsibilities. I want her to express her ideas and listen to mine and then we'll decide who's idea is better.
It's 21st century, in my view, we should accept the change and live according to it. Men and Women are equally capable of doing things. There's nothing a woman can't do what a man can and Vice versa.
I prefer a partner to be liberal so that we have similar ideas and ideology.
It's just my view, I have no problem with conservative people. It's their way to do things and I respect them and I want them to respect my ideology as well.
Cons because they are more family oriented and not part of the slutty party animal crowd who all go around sleeping with each other and date different people every week. And were raised with those kind of morals.
conservative women cook, take care of their appearance, want kids and a family, will stay home with the kids, and will not yell at me when i tell racist jokes or police my opinions
left wing women... are the opposite of everything i just said, why would i want to date a left wing women? they are easy sex sure but no fun at all
Be careful though, āconservativeā women can easily use that label and secretly be a liberal. Look at Tomi Lauren, she supports abortion and recently bashed men even though she probably slept her way to the top. She also doesnāt have kids or a husband smh.
My problem is I'm all over the political map. Give me an issue and I may fall in with either party. I usually date liberals though as my vegetarianism usually puts off conservatives. Not that I'm preachy about it, it's just hard for many to wrap their head around. Also the fact that I'm not Christian is also a turn off for many conservatives so it's just easier to find liberals who are compatibile.
Thereās a big difference between classic liberals and leftists who have this hive mind, where you walk on eggshells not to trigger them. I lean right, but have dated classic liberal girls, and have had great political discussions, but try that with a leftist, they start calling you names and saying you ātriggered themā (seriously!). The best thing is donāt date an extremist from right or left.
Neither !! Political choice is an illusion , both " sides " piss in the same pot and work for their banking Cartel masters... NOT for the people. The so-called " liberals " are very far from truly liberal , I do not date , but if forced to choose at gunpoint , it would not be the loud , brainwashed neo-Stalinist's , that is for sure.
Conservatives are generally the safer choice for those who adhere to and cherish more traditional socioeconomic and religious values. Liberals are sure as hell a LOT more fun to be with if one is willing to be accepting of their personal values that are - by many conservatives- viewed as iconoclastic to day the very least.
Those are such broad umbrellas that it's hard for me to make a choice on who would be better to date. Personally, I'd rather date a conservative woman since our views on life, public policy and morality are more likely to be a compatible. I'm sure that there are amazing liberal (not leftist) women out there, but I don't see myself in a lasting relationship with one, unless she was maybe a blue dog Democrat type of person.
it's better to date the one you more identify with. While politics doesn't directly determine compatibility, it will strongly affect values, which does determine compatibility. If you try to start relationships with people who don't share your values, well you don't have to share all of your values, but you need to at least share some.
Liberals are the most narrow-minded, intolerant people on Earth. They're already beating people to death for not towing their agenda, where have you been?
'Cancel culture' has been going on for years on the right. How often do you hear a person on the right speaking against the established norms? They all speak as one, look at the QAnon Moto, going together as one. Its just found a home on the fringes of the left in recent times. Conservatives cannot tolerate any change from their bubble of comfort, they dont want to have to look at a gay couple holding hands, be asked to do anything that, while legal, violates their sincerely held beliefs. Its all culturewar all the time, there's no ideas as that would require changing from the status quo, which isn't working. At this point, burning it all down may be the only remaining option.
The status quo was working just fine, it brought us the safest, most prosperous, most tolerant and most free society the human race has ever known. Poor people today have more luxuries than the most elite monarchs from just 100 years ago.
Was there some work still to do? Of course, there is always room for improvement.
You have fallen for the smoke and mirrors that somehow there are people who are oppressed in the United States. There aren't. You believe racism and sexism run rampant when nothing could be further from the truth, it's all just a ploy to advance communism.
Itās funny how many on the right, when confronted with facts or ideas that they donāt like go straight to name calling and loose all objectivity. Oh well, this is one of the many reasons why polite discourse is impossible.
@ImSparkly- you start by saying the right is responsible for cancel culture, then, remarkably, finish the same reply with implying that burning it all down is the only response. Can you see why someone like me would think you must be delusional? by the way, saying you might be disillusioned is not name calling.
I guess me cause I'm neither I don't subscribe to this government's two party false dichotomy both owned by the Juice, but I'm far from an Anarchist, and I hate commies and race traitors.
Question: Who created and maintained communism in Eastern Europe?
I meet a lot of folks who "claim to love Jesus". Some of the biggest liars, deceivers and greediest people I've ever met had claimed to be good Christians. The KKK claims to be doing the "work of God". It's sad.
Neither 😂 I find that if they identify as either they are very passionate about politics. Now this is of course an assumption but one that i think might be true
People of opposing political parties should not date each other. It's never a good choice to date, or attempt building a relationship with someone whom you have nothing in common with.
Who give any fucks about which whining, bickering, we said/they said bullshit politics your date subscribed to? Don't be boring and lame like every other jerk off in the world. You're better than that. Be magical.
well, if you want the relationship to survive - you date your own kind/species/political denomination/colour scheme etc It is self-love, to love your own - self (in the opposite gender so you can have that one child too!)
Both libtards and cuntservatives are shitty human beings. Find someone who doesn't define themselves by their vote, who diesn't use politics to fashion a social pose like some good for nothing attention whore.
It's better to date someone who isn't emotionally attached to an ideology to the point where they make that ideology a priority over impartially thinking about cases and how they affect what's good for people either way
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