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Ok, you have to pull this one apart...
Let's start with the fact that men can get away with being overweight yet in some ways still attractive to some women
But it's still not very attractive though... And this is my point here...
This picture is real
Big, thick and curvy are things that men find attractive
But to be fair... This exists
Let's just say it this way. For both genders, overweight is not ok.
But if you are a woman, you can look attractive to a certain point with extra weight as the whisper picture describes. That is a thing.
In fact, I've seen it happen. More often for muscles than for extra weight where for girls, extra weight can and is an attractive feature but only to a certain point.
I guess dad bods are a thing too but only to a certain point... I think only to a certain point is the key phase here.
Baseline, a healthy weight simply looks better and the more you go over a healthy weight with either gender it starts to get on shakey ground
But while dad bods are a thing, I'll tip my hat to women for added weight being more sexy because up to a point it's totally true, which is not so with guys
Think it's a lot easier for guys to hide their weight over a woman based on the fact most average men are pretty tall compared to the average women.
Also if a man is over weight and seen eating loads of food he's a legend whilst if a over weight woman over eats she gross and disgusting. That's why there's only a rare amount of woman competitive eaters and the ones who are out there tend to work out too unlike male competitive eaters.
Also women are naturally very insecure about their bodys and were told are beauty standards will help us find a good partner. This is why so much of this body positive movement promotes obese women. Because they know deep down it isn't seen as appealing to men or women as a beauty standard but desperately keep trying to convince us it is. They wouldn't show it so much in the media if we all thought being a over weight women was normal.
Plus most fitness products have healthy fit women promoting them or highly attractive males to appeal more to a female audience more than they do with women. Women are also more likely to suffer from eating disorders in their life than men are. there's so many images of beautiful women with beautiful bodies in the media its seen as the ideal goal for woman to look like and if these beautiful women are seen in the media not looking in shape they are bullied by the same media for it and once she loses the weight is praised for it, even if she went through a unhealthy diet to get there. Im not saying men don't have the same issues as women but it's more common amongst women.
Its pretty normal for girls to hate their body and all stand around in the mirror picking faults with are self. Unlike men, i think men are a lot more focused on other things in life over there body and just want to be happy a lot of the time not saying but men don't get worry about them things at all. It's just so ingrained in womens head but slim is pretty and fat is ugly.
Also dad bods are seen as hot by some women (me being one 😂) i don't like guys who take too but pride in their appearance personally it's just not my thing.
Also i love to feed my boyfriend and whenever he says he's fat, which he's not i just say he's not fat he's snuggly.
Women. Hands down. You even so much as comment on a womans weight and people lose their ever living mind because they love saying that you are body shaming and that you need to let fat girls be happy. But when it comes to men.. nope. Men get fat shamed damn near every single day but no one advocates for them or says that we need to stop fat shaming.
For instance, I haven't lost my baby weight from having my son 4 years ago. I'm overweight. No one says anything to me. My boyfriend, who is maybe 20lbs heavier than he should be gets comments all the time saying "Wow, you've gotten fucking fat." Or "Time to hit the gym, huh?"
@EyesOfGod oh of course you did. Because apparently telling someone who complains about their weight to go on a diet instead of bitching about it means that you are "fat shaming" lmfao. I hate this world.
@DestinyElizabeth04 SPOT ON! It's a breath of fresh air to see a woman with brains for once. You are absolutely right!
Let me also add that a fat chick can easily get dudes to chase and orbit her. I dated a chubby/fat girl once who happens to be a serial dater. Looking at the average fat guy, can barely get himself a date.
@TruthBringer see, I'm personally overweight myself and I literally have no problem whatsoever finding men who want to either date or hook up. Its insanely easy for women. My boyfriend is, as I said, only like 20lbs heavier than what he "should be". I dont think he's fat. he's a bit chubby in his gut but women, even chubby ones, instantly turn up their nose. Like okay fatty, let's fat shame a dude for being 20lbs overweight when it looks like you devoured the entirety of McDonalds food stock. Pisses me off so bad. I would prefer I was fat shamed over my boyfriend. Especially considering I'm easily pushing 40-50lbs overweight currently.
@DestinyElizabeth04 I myself am muscular and have a low body fat % (aesthetic is the term for my body type) and trust me when I say that I take a woman with a brain like yours any day, over some shallow slim-fit woman who thinks the world must revolve around her (aka half of GAG’s women). Regardless if you got your current weight or happened to be slim-fit. Nothing is more of a turn on than a woman who is an understanding team player. You have my compliments and respect.
@TruthBringer well thank you! I tend to be extremely self aware which is definitely a huge playing factor.
This is one area I feel bad for women on. Since men are so visually stimulated it puts BBW women at a huge disadvantage. There are evolutionary reasons for this. Men subconsciously see very large women as more infertile.
A fat guy who is really funny, smart, has money and a good personality can still pull decent looking women. The late Chris Farley was dating a model a few years before he passed (she broke up with him because of his severe drug addiction). However not so much as true vice versa. The vast majority of fit/attractive guys are much less likely to have feelings for a heavy girl unless he’s got some weird fetish (exists but it’s very rare)
But I notice big girls can go in one of two directions. They can either be real hard working, sweet, smart and caring OR they turn into bitter bullying POS grenades. The former I will always treat respectfully but the latter deserves to be mocked nonstop and have no sympathy for them. Some of the nastiest unprovoked insults I’ve ever gotten in my life were from fat girls.
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Acceptable to who? Shallow people that want to judge or shame people for their body? Or overweight men that want to fatshame overweight women? Or overweight women that want to fat shame men? How about everyone just worry about their own weight and the weight of their partner and just leave everyone else to worry about theirs...
But to think it's more acceptable based on gender is just ridiculous... Because being overly overweight can cause more health issues for BOTH men and women...
Definitely men cause for the guys they joke about their weight all the time. You see it all the time on TV especially with comedians and my friends would joke about their weight as well.
I remember playing a team game as a kid and two of my friends called themselves team chunky.
Guys are very comfortable with their bodies. If they're overweight they will admit it and make fun of it. You don't see women doing that.
If they catch you making a fat joke in tv or real life they will come after you like an angry mob. Instead of accepting or joking about it they tip toe around the problem. Saying things like they're happy, don't fat shame, doctors are lying about their health, and basically accept them they're beautiful.
And funny enough I think just recently a celeb was overweight and then now she has lost some weight. Guess what women are the ones angry about it.
If women didn't make it so uncomfortable to talk about their weight it might be more acceptable. Like every guy will agree the number one thing you don't talk about is a woman's weight. The second would probably be their age.
Probably men, but the reality is that there's far less overweight and especially obese men than there are women, which could explain why women receive most of the negativity. Because they are simply more commonly seen. Men are not as pressured to lose weight or be in shape because most men want to be in shape and will go to the gym to be such because they know women prefer men with athletic/fit builds, so you often find men of a healthier weight class.
Women, on the other hand, are too lazy or too stubborn to exercise and instead, want to demand the world accepts them for how they are while she maintains her expectations for how men should look. Women will say they see ugly, overweight men dating attractive women all the time but this is hardly my experience. I see quite a lot of fit, attractive looking men dating women who are unappealing and fat. It really goes to show just which gender also has the higher standards and which gender has the lower standards, that being men just in case nobody was getting it.
Men.
First, you need to understand that men weigh more for one. Yet despite this, men in order to look good need to have 10% body fat now if you don't know that is very very hard to achieve and maintain.
Here's what a man looks like at 20% body fat compared to a woman at 20%
https://images.app.goo.gl/mbfLrF2niRDqGm4q8
For a woman to look like a man at 10-12 % body fat a woman only needs to be around 20--25 %.
Now don't forget either men, weigh more when we say body fat % it is a % of your body weight.
If a woman weighs 60kg and a man weighs 100kg
10% body fat of 100kg is 10kg of fat so 90% of muscle and bone etc 10% if fat
BUT on a 60kg woman 10% of body fat = 6KG that's a 4KG difference just to picture that here's what 2KG of fat actually looks like compared to 2KG of muscle.
https://images.app.goo.gl/NuxtidWx68eQ9YSG7
Now multiply that by x5.
So not only do men have to achieve a lower % each percentage has more in it. 10% for a man 10kg 10% for a woman is 6KG.
It is insane just how hard it is to gain that physique I know being around 12% body fat just how hard it can be if you don't do things properly.
@mistixs Because of oestrogen your more, fat prone yes but no one really knows is it harder to have oestrogen or have to burn more fat.
But given a pound of fat is something like 3000+ calories compared to absorption requiring only 1000 at most per day. And the fact men need to burn more fat off holding it is not that bad.
As a woman, you only need to eat about 1500 calories from 2000 but as a man, that's 1000 extra off 2500 which is much harder and the hunger is worse.
@mistixs Oh yes with the proportions they use and calories are immense large fries at mcdonalds are nearly 500 calories 1/4 of your daily intake.
I literally eat breakfast of 500 calories and then a 1000 calorie meal that's 1500 calories which is all I get if I want to lose fat. If I need to maintain it I need roughly 2300 calories.
It's worth noting the more muscle you have the more calories you need and the more food you can have.
^ This is the major issue on a girls side because you only need 2000 so eating the food is harder because your getting more in less food not filling you up etc.
Dunno to be honest but I can burn through 2 kg of fat in 24 hours naturally so I have no problems gaining and losing wheight and I expect the same put of my girlfriend.
It is not hard at all, all you do is dry fast (no water or eating food. You can even do it for 5 days and burn through the fat reserves like crazy as the body used the hydrogen in the fat to produce the water it needs and provide it self the energy to survive.
Naturally you can not just jump into dry fasting without intermediate fasting regularly and doing a type of LCHF like keto, carnivore diet as a lifestyle first.
With intermediate fasting and LCHF the cells in the body will build the machinery and infrastructure to be able to do a dry fast.
I'm a guy/man i'm 38 i'm 1'78cm height and 110kg, so to be honest i'm not ashamed of my body, and i don't care about a woman's too, as long as she feels good in her own skin, why not.. I have a saying... The bigger the Curves... The Sweeter the PRIZE... so i like mine meaty, lmao... and i'm not gonna compare too much but a few things... Guys if they can still "see it" past belly then its all fine, plus if a woman is much thinner than them, then its easy to "put on top" or "shuffle around" ...😁😁😁🤫😉
That's like asking if it is more acceptable for men or women to be murderers. How is it healthy for anyone to be overweight? I get tired of hearing people legitimize fat. Our metabolism changes as we age, which means we no longer need to consume what we used to need to consume. Eating out of entitlement or just for comfort will only increase health concerns and shorten our life. If I continued to eat as I did as a teenager, I wouldn't be able to fit through doorways. Of my 3 dogs, 2 were overweight and 1 was underweight when I rescued them. All, but the newest addition, are now at healthy weights, because I want them to live long, healthy lives. Wouldn't I want the same for myself and those I care about?
As everything I guess we women will use weight nearly just as much as height, as we women are so much on about all shallow reasons to reject a guy, and openly let them know. We women don't own the empati to judge a guy on he's personality or he's inner value. I guess i'm one in a million who never will judge a guy on something as hopless and shallow as there body features. Whis more women were like myself, on the otherhand finding a boyfriend is much easier if you treat them with dignaty and like a human being, as few of my fellow sisters are abel to show that kind of compassion for the other gender, it's been pretty easy to find super guys with great personality, weight is easy to change and height in a guy is about the most insignificant feature in a person
Proportions to height standing, if you're 5'10" and 300+ lbs., it's likely that your body is close or near to being more fat %-wise than everything else (bones, muscle, organs, etc.). The majority of people will not prefer their partner to let themselves go to that point. That being said, it is healthier and there is more utility for women to have a higher fat %. Men are oriented to have more lean muscle mass. It's apart of the physiological displays from higher expressions of one set of hormones over another in the genders.
I don't know if acceptable is the word for it but
From what I've seen, women judge men more harshly than men judge them so while people say "Men are more visual" they aren't wrong because men are primarily visual, but women care more about appearance than men do.
Where are the plus sized men? Not attractive so they are not marketed. You got fat women saying Fat women can be beautiful but nothing about fat men being attractive.
Also apparently it's more acceptable to criticize a man for being fat and unhealthy but not a woman.
So looking at the scores it seems we dont care about the opposite sex being fat but we would persecute ourselves for being that way.
Unless you are a knuckle dragging dude in which case you think that fat girls are worse because you didn't want to fuck any of the guys anyway but you dont have the stones to be seen in public with a fat chick.
So if 75% of us just stopped being so hard on ourselves and the other 25% just went and killed themselves this problem and probably a few others would just go away...
Seems like a strong move for the benefit of all mankind, so needless to say that will never happen.
The average man is 5'9 195 lbs with a 40 inch waist. Lmao.
I think it's generally more accepted for men. But the thing is; a lot of guys can be overweight but not really show it as much due to either...
1. Having above average muscle mass, hence balancing out a higher% of body fat or...
2. Taller guys with a large frame. These guys can be like upwards of 20% body fat while still looking fairly normal due the fat being spread out over their body rather than just looking like a pear, as many average-shorter guys would.
It also might be more acceptable for a guy to be overweight because guys are generally more visual. So a chunky women simply might be more criticized for it than the other way around. Obviously, I don't think it's good for anyone to be overweight as long as it's within their control of course.
Well lets put it this way, are their fat male pornstars and models? No, not really. Are their fat female pornstars and models? Absolutely, they have entire genre's of porn dedicated to fat women, we have fat models (tess holiday for example), and we are told every moment of every day that fat women are beautiful, no fat men of course, they are disgusting pigs that no woman wants, but fat women absolutely. So their is your answer.
From a health point of view it's not acceptable Froman attraction point of view I would say probably the female can carry weight better than a man But what is acceptable to one person can be completely different It's more to do with the person What they are about A laugh can attract more than Weight Height and other unimportant things
Definitely men. When it comes to society women are expected to be “tiny and cute” while men are expected to be “tall and rich” which is depressing and disgusting but that’s the box we live in. As long as men have money they’re “attractive” and as long as women have thick bodies with flat stomachs they are “beautiful.”
I haven't seen an obese female rapper.
Is that relatable?
At least, in my country, there is no body positive movement. It's like other Asian countries in general.
It's equal, to me. Society puts more pressure on women to look pretty, however PLENTY of men also prefer thick/plus-sized women, and only some (mainly, white men) do not like curvy/thick women and think of them as "fat/obese." So more haters of plus-sized women, but more lovers of them, as well. While as no one really comments on men's bodies at all, whether they be in shape or overweight. So I'd call them equal, but in a different way.
Societally it seems more acceptable for men, though keep in mind the entire "beauty at any size" movement is entirely focused upon women. So maybe I'm wrong.
I however think being even slightly chubby is unacceptable for anyone regardless of gender. Excess fat is as bad if not worse than smoking for your health. And anyone who lets their body get to that point should be ashamed. Especially in societies with public sector Healthcare where everyone else has to pay for your fat induced heart attack, diabetes, or cancer.
Beefy guys are frequently both strong and confident. They (we) may not like the extra blubber and even resent it, but it very frequently does not make them (us) insecure or have self doubt, even knowing it limits our appeal to women. A far greater portion of women are disabled by being tubby.
I say women because men have a penis that can't be fully enjoyed if they're even average weight. Women mostly just gain sexy scrumptious mass in their tits and ass. Now if the guy has a monsterous cock then its all good. Actually helps balance out the amount that goes in and out. Aannd cushioned fat slaps all around.
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