To me the definition of a man is ALPHA. think about the qualities most good men possess.. they are leaders of their household, providers, strong, and often times dominant. That's the way its supposed to be. I don't believe in modern day feminism... I believe in women's right however, if it involves demeaning men n taking away traditional family structure then no.
Archaic thinking you got there... gone are the times when women knew their place and men knew theirs... now we got more personalities than genders and everyone is trying to puzzle pieces them together. Used to be a man acted like this a woman acted like this and society just kept moving...
"I believe in women's right however, if it involves demeaning men n taking away traditional family structure then no."
Unfortunately in general society this is exactly what it means. Its the give an inch take a mile saying come true. If women aren't allowed to say no, all men can essentially be alpha. The more freedom women have the more difficult many of them will become. The more difficult the less men capable of taming them till there's essentially none left.
That term Alpha male alone is actually a bit primitive. It implicitly implies that men have to be viewed at as animals. Neglecting the intellectual capacity of human beings.
Human beings though have a tendency, don't behave like animals anymore and terminology that define animalistic behaviour have to be left behind too.
Humans now strive and triumph on leadership based on intellect and perish at leadership based on animalistic behaviour.
Probably. I wouldn't know though, since to me an alpha male is just a masculine guy that eats healthy and does lots of body building. It's really just a scale of masculinity and attractiveness. But I would say it's better that it's gone since not every woman wants a guy with huge muscles and abs.
Alpha males only exist in chimps not in humans. Sure some men can be dominating but they're not alpha technically.
The highest-ranking chimpanzee in a group is called an alpha-male. But in humans there's no such concept although we made it up this alpha bullshit just to refer a dominating men.
An alpha male is someone whom everybody follows and he leads his entire group. All female and other male bow upon him. But in humans now we have a concept of individuality. We don't necessary need a leader whom everybody has to follow.
So alpha male is just a metaphor for dominating men in human.
Sadly, true masculine, genuine and inspiring men are fading more and more. at least in the west. The masculine man is easily portrayed as "sexist", "misogynistic", having "toxic masculinity" and you name it. The west here is so full of weak men that just guys like myself who are on the self improvement journey (and who have also embraced their masculinity) make people around us insecure and feel "intimidated". And being an Officer in the Air Force only adds to it.
Only men believe in the alpha male concept. It’s more cringey than real. If a man calls another man alpha male it just means one of them is extremely insecure and the other one is a normal confident human being who values himself, like any other person should, man or woman.
The other type of man who believes in the alpha concept is the one with deep underlying mental health issues that make him overindulge in casual sex and risky behaviors.
@VanillaSalt Lmao. I recognize the personality differences. But the label of alpha or beta is ridiculous. I also would argue that you’re absolutely not a “alpha male”. Cringe.
@VanillaSalt Ok, and? That doesn’t make you alpha or beta, it just makes you a regular person. I find it so funny when people label themselves as alpha or beta. It's hilarious
Alpha and beta are just parts of their personality’s. Do they take charge? Are they charismatic? Are they strong and independent. These are alpha traits... betas are more compassionate and supportive. They pick up the slack for leaders. They just get a bad rap because these are more accepted as feminine traits... women tend to prefer alphas
@VanillaSalt I understand the difference perfectly. The only issue is the label they assign to these traits, because it implies that alphas are somehow superior than betas (literally the definition of alpha is first, beta means second). I know there are differences between people, but calling them alpha or beta is pathetic. They're regular people, not some sort of special specimen just because they happen to be more confident and sure of themselves than you.
@VanillaSalt calling somebody a leader is better than calling them alpha. Because a lot of guys think that being alpha means having sex with tons of women which is truly laughable
Just because you disagree with the words used and other have slanged the word to hell don’t change the fact their alphas.
A whores still a prostitute who’s still a harlot a hooker a jade a floozy a hussy a broad... many words same meaning... only in this case instead of choosing words that are synonymous we’re changing the definition... aka slang...
@VanillaSalt I don’t “disagree” with it, I just find it dumb how you come up with such a label. You can call that type of person a leader and that’s a good description. But alpha? Please. It makes them look like some sort of god that can’t be touched. Young men are influenced by that and they think they have to do risky stuff to become alphas. The label doesn’t do any good to anyone.
It’s a label... only sheep allow a label define them. We apply labels to everything and people don’t seem to understand they have to show they are above the label.
I honestly feel that women and their actions effect men to a higher degree than any label.
Example. I, for various reasons, don’t have time to date in person so I date online. I believe im average looking with interesting hobbies a good job and have various qualities women look for in men. I get no matches. Looking up why and tried many things... better bio, better pictures, lower standards, sending messages, paid services, multiple sites and apps... if a years worth of self-reflection molding myself gets me nowhere; I have to assume the problem is women. At least the women on dating apps.
Meanwhile I’ve been labeled many times... I consider why they say so and decide yay or nay... I decide who and what I am and if you disagree oh well.
Which do you suppose effects young men more, how people treat you or how they label you?
@VanillaSalt Eh, women don't affect men as much as their own male buddies. Men ignore what women want and only care what they think women want. Not the same things.
Women want something, men think women want something completely different, and this is based on what their male friends tell them. Their little group. That affects them 100x more than what women say lol
Then maybe women shouldn’t say nothing wrong when SOMETHINGS WRONG! You women are to blame for that sending your mixed signals. Furthermore Women don’t know what they want proof is when they take home the bad boy who one night stands them... bitch course he left he’s bad!
And don’t blame male buddies on this one I haven’t had a social life thanks to my job. Outside family I haven’t had time or interest.
@VanillaSalt Why did you escalate this from the "alpha male" label to blaming women? A lot of guys on this site blame women for every little tiny problem you have. Work on your issues instead of placing EVERYTHING on us. Look at the role you play here.
I’m one of them. I sunk myself into 62k of student loan debt in order to ensure that I’ll have 2 degrees and that I’ll be able to get a job that pays 6 figures.
But if it goes against your opinion of what you think I like, then sure I’ll just “think” I do 😂 suits me fine lol Sorry if you’re more concerned about it than I am
If you met a real alpha, you would round up all your ghetto bitch friends and male orbiters and send them all after him for whatever reason you pull out of your ass.
The guys you think are alphas are just betas with more confidence than they ought to have.
Being good at playing the social game (and, more pathetically, being proud of it) is a submissive trait.
No, they just might have different behaviors or traits than previous ones. There is still a hierarchy where men are ranked on status, sexual desirability, dominance etc and we are not all perceived/treated equally. There is still a spectrum of winner/loser upon which men will conventionally be placed.
It's depending on culture of definition of males in the society, in some societies you will find that Alpha male culture is about that every male should be an Alpha male, it will make a lot Alpha male but it will not good for their psychological health to pretend being an Alpha male
Relational aggression is most commonly studied amongst females; either come up with a good argument or know your place. Ten of you with knives would be a good time for me.
@havingfun101 Shows the problem liberal policies have with law enforcement and coddling to criminals, considering we have a inmate having access to the internet right now.
@NYlatefun I already have, except that they were black and some had clubs or Mexican & had cases of full & empty beer bottles and a gun. My step mother alone has tried to stab me more times than you've been in a slap fight. You're a white knight who was trying to save @Some_Goof but a masculine man would have addressed my arguments or at least said: "leave her alone", but you're a matarchial male. "I don't make a habit of fighting the elderly!" -- Lion Rafale, Virtua Fighter 4
@brennanhuff That's changing. "Sometimes you must Hurt in order to Know, Fall in order to Grow, Lose in order to Gain because life's greatest lessons are learned through PAIN!" -- Nagato Uzumaki, Naruto Shippuden
@havingfun101 I am not defending girls here. I am saying you are full of shit. As a civil engineer I deal with very aggressive men everyday in the construction site and I can tell you that I put them in their place with no need to even raise my voice. Violence has nothing to do with it.
@ThisIsMyOpinion Firstly, false; you can't lie to me. Secondly, no one would listen to you unless you had authority over them or they were soliciting information. Work isn't a pure dominance/competence hierarchy due to societal rules. You're being dishonest or oblivious; I can't tell which. I regularly command hostel groups of men, because they instinctively know what I'll do if they act stupid. You all are simply domesticated, like women, so you can't tell what's going on. Other people look; I see, in this regard, I'm a seer.
@havingfun101 I am not their boss and I do not have any authority over them. I don't pay their salaries and I have to make sure they listen to me or they will do what I they want. I can do it without being violent with. Being violent more often than not only gets you ostracized instead of listened to. If you are someone worth listening to you will be listened to. If you have zero of worth to say and on top of that are violent you won't last.
"I have to make sure they listen to me" - U... Y? Insurance, regulations... stuff gorillas and lions don't deal with? Keep it simple, stupid. The threat of violence backstops all authority, which is why kings rule scientists instead of the other way around... it's about armies or in other words: violence. Ostracizing people is proxy violence due to the risks associated with lack of reinforcements... wake up. See? Worth to say... didn't you think this through as a child? Circle back to competence informed dominance hierarchy, as opposed to violence (different kind of competence) informed hierarchy. Smh...
@NYlatefun It's okay to quote someone once one has acquired their fighting style, fat boy. “Even if my enemy is far stronger; even if my body should fail me, I cannot lose.." -- Neji Hyuga, Naruto Shippuden
@havingfun101 "The threat of violence backstops all authority" wrong. The king had all the authority to begin with not the scientist. No matter how violent a man is he will always have to answer to some authority. In my case I have neither yet I do make my will enforced by simply not backing down when they come at me. So by being violent he is ostracized and therefore causing violence upon himself because he chose to use violence in the first place. That only shows why violence is not the best option to begin with. Society might had worked like that at some point but now anymore. We live in society not anarchy.
@ThisIsMyOpinion 🧐🤣 au·thor·i·ty /əˈTHôrədē/ noun 1. the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience. "he had absolute authority over his subordinates" ... Dominance hierarchy is a type of social hierarchy that arises when members of a social group interact, to create a ranking system. In social living groups, members are likely to compete for access to limited resources and mating opportunities. When Violence Pays: A Cost-Benefit Analysis of Aggressive Behavior in Animals and Humans: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3859192/
@havingfun101 A society needs to have a leader. Sure, but that has nothing to do with violence. If it did the leader of a nation would always be chosen with a fight to the death. Instead most of the modern world has democracy. Being agressive is not the problem. Being violent is. You can be agressive while debating you ideas whitout ever getting violent.
@ThisIsMyOpinion In civilized society we rely mostly on proxy violence of war, police, poverty and shame; but at the end of the day, all of the above boil down to: 'I can kick your a$$.' Human alphas do exist and violence is behind all authority, even that granted by knowledge, thus the sayings: knowledge is power & knowing is half the battle. Being overly domesticated is a liability and the projection of strength isn't the attainment thereof. Democracy is mob rule, absent physical violence or competence hierarchy, a feminine form of government. Article 4 Section 4 Of The U. S. Constitution: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."
@havingfun101 that is violence to stop violence. Not just violence for the sake of violence, completely different concepts. While society accepts the second it completely disapproves of the first. So if you are just violent for no good reason people will look down on you, not respect you. Case and point, I do muay thai at my gym. I had many MANY loud mouths, alphas like you call them arriving and thinking they will be the best in two days. They have zero car with others and just swing full force. When me and others with experience notice that do you know what we do? During spar we make sure they regret coming to train that day. No more alpha attitude. The term alpha itself was disproved by its creator look it up. Once again when violence is used to stop stupid violence. It's acceptable and encouraged. The other way around you will just make sure no one likes you and get yourself a ass whooping.
@brennanhuff 70% of American people (wealthy countries) are overweight or obese, I'm shredded and marriage, cohabitation and childbirth are at all time lows. How single are you and isn't it by choice?
@NYlatefun The term ‘Free World’ originated in the cold world era. Back then Free World was used to collectively refer to the non-communist countries including the US. Since US was/is the most powerful nation militarily and economically, the president of the US naturally earned the title of the leader of the Free World.
@ThisIsMyOpinion The reason for violence is irrelevant to the discussion of as to whether or not authority is backed up by violence, which would be self evident if you would let go of the need to be right and see things as they naturally are. You assume I'm loud and careless; this is psychological projection of matarchial masculinity. Also, I don't play fight, as it breeds weakness and a false sense of security. Attitude has nothing to do with raw force. Oh, "muh debunked?" 🤣 ... it's a term for a relative position, thus it may fluctuate & so, alpha is more of a hierarchical descriptor; not a living being, ergo no known absolute alpha exists in the living world. Are you even serious? ... You: muh fee-fee's. Me: raw power. 🧐
@havingfun101 I am single and it is by choice. You however and your psycho ass are single because you creep the shit out of every woman you come across
@brennanhuff Called it! 😎 Awwww? The last women to romantically interact with me said that I was a badass with a nice ass. Girls don't say that over nothing; what I did to illicit such a response is too secret & nigh impossible a technique for your eyes.
@NYlatefun It think he has sex dolls, but since he has voiced in his head. He thinks a woman is talking to him and complimenting him. When the reality is that, only a sex doll would be anywhere near him, because his creepy ass can't attract any woman lol
@havingfun101 the reason for it matters. And a lot. Go outside and punch someone. Next go outside and punch someone who is assaulting a child. It is very different. One can put you in jail the other will get you praised. Yes it was debunked by the guy who came up with the term after a study with wolves that he used to try to compare to humans. Not long after he wrote a book about it he himself saw wolves display behavior who disproved it and tried to tell society about it. Sadly since some people feel better about calling themselves "alpha", it's an ego thing, the term stuck around. Simple as this.
@brennanhuff This is why I never promoted you to human gamma. You're too weak & indirect to be a gamma. I haven't purchased a robot vagina because I'm too big for 90% of them. You wouldn't understand.
@ThisIsMyOpinion You're demoted to human gamma. I don't get caught by the police or identified by any victims, although I only act in self defense. You're projecting your own incompetence onto me. Either way, what I command goes, because if not, I use force; otherwise I'd make a suggestion. The saying "might is right" is meant to convey this obvious truth. Look, gamma, I I already explained your (and his) false equivalence informal logical fallacy, by way of a realistic lense and no amount of "muh created it" appear to authority informal logical fallacy will change that. I'm an apex predator, no creature on earth is a match; because I'm always in control, especially when I choose not to be. Brain with me.
@havingfun101 what is a human gamma? If you only act on self defense of course the police wants nothing with you. What? At any point I talked about you. I am simply giving examples, but I never said anything about you. I actually laugh at the last part "Brain with me" 😂 What you command goes? No one in real besides a dictator can say that, even presidents have restrictions to what they can do. If you use force everytime someone does not agree with you or does what you say you are simply out of your mind and are not a functioning human being.
You're a human gamma & your example was one alluding to incompetence, which must come from your mind; as I know better than to get close to being caught, as my many, many undiscovered felonies make clear. You're welcome! 🥰 Your functional human being is my ultra domesticated wimp. "Pick your battles and win them." -- My Twin Brother
@havingfun101 Felonies... PALEASSSSSE... you hide behind a keyboard all day long... look at this pathetic thread. Online tough guys are the best! So enjoyable. You are a legend mate.
You're projecting your own nature onto me. Deception is a product of weakness; you wouldn't understand, human omega. I once ran a larceny ring that the FBI was looking for, I've seen myself on the news jerking it in public and been in more fights (also felonies) than one may shake a stick at, to say nothing of drugs and arson. 🤣👊🖕
@havingfun101 Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha OMG nobody with that kind of history is on GAG bragging about it. I am on here because I am content creator. Why are you? Why not be that cool bad ass spooky scary tough guy... why are you HERE MAN... Come on. Be honest.
Only a very astute person can tell someone's history, even partially, by looking at or interacting with them. You're a liar or you wouldn't say I am, without proof, human omega. I'm just being me. Appeal to false authority: This fallacy is used when a person uses a false authority as evidence for their claim. These fallacious arguments from authority are the result of citing a non-authority as an authority.
@havingfun101 I get paid 6 figures a year to wreck fraudulent fucks like you! I get paid to be here. You don't... stay behind your keyboard where you belong!
Oh, that's funny! You receive Affirmative Action & your job is... what? Hocking self help jargon? Your accomplishments aren't an argument, human omega.
Alpha's are dependent upon external validation. I said that I'm hyper violent, not an alpha male or did you not notice? You sound like a dating coach, not a football coach; marriage, cohabitation and childbirth are at all time lows. Business must be good, but it's not working out for the customer, en masse... oh, well.
@havingfun101 Keyboard warriors are not hyper violent unless they are just killing animals in their back yard. I've seen havingfun101 before in my previous career... juveniles who were molested or beaten or what have you then turn to the internet for revenge with tough talk and pseudointellectual speak. If anybody understands I do. So there is help if you choose to accept it.
Again, I've been jumped a bakers dozen times as of a few months ago; often they were armed and in large groups. However, I wasn't starved, beaten and tortured as a kid; but that doesn't change the truth and the help that you describe is just paying a usually female psychologist who's useless outside of feelings. What you're really asking me to do is become more controllable for your sake, because I'm more powerful than you are able to control, thus your outlook. I'm not a member of the matriarchy, which is what you're used to; my father has similar attitudes and is similarly weak, petty and easily controlled by external forces.
@havingfun101 You keep getting funnier and funnier xD So you were involved with the FBI, you keep doing fellonies and not get caught, you act in a violent way everytime you don0t get your way. BUT let's assume that all of that is true. I don't believe it for a second but me and @coachtanthonyT are having a good time with you so I will play along. If all of that was true that would just make you human trash. Utter garbage and nothing more! xD That's why this is so funny you actually think those things impress someone and are supposed to make you look bad ass. Not even close!
@ThisIsMyOpinion Do you feel strong beating on that strawman argument? I didn't say we were involved with the FBI, we got out before they caught up. I'm only violent in self defense, except very rarely when I do make a command and it's not followed and I drop the hammer. You must be a liar like Tanthony or you'd take me at my word and roll on. Hey, jerking it in public was an act social commentary, so try not be be so jealous!
@havingfun101 uh? What statistics have to do with the fact that you are a clown and that for me to envy you I would have to be under the influence of hallucinogenics?
Hey, don't drag hallucinogens into this! I thought you were referring to wang size, in which case; I'm statistically impressive, which explains why you so jelly!
TL;DR: only betas cohabitate or marry. Bros, women file 75% of divorces, a woman can force herself on a teenage boy (hermesmann vs seyer 1993) & still get child support from him or his parents & when the woman make$ more, the divorce rate goes up by 50%, from roughly 50%. Marriage, cohabitation and childbirth are at all time lows.
Is this pic real? I never understand why some white women let this happen to them and accept it. Iwould beat the shit if him of hire someone to beat the fuck of him
I've been jumped by armed & unarmed men over a dozen times & brown women love them some blue eyed white devil. Additionally, men are roughly twice as strong as women. She likes to feel dominated, like all women. Get right or get left.
Hahahaha! My dad tried to beat me in my sleep, I've been jumped with my jacket pulled over my head, on ice and been in several knife fights, starting at the age of three. You couldn't hurt me with all your male acquaintances at the same time. All you could do is try to get close enough to bite me and I'd sense you malice from a mile away. Pretty is skin deep, but ugly is to the bone. Refer back to my above comment on marriage, cohabitation and childbirth being at all time lows. We see you girls. After I wreck their whole crew, in pure self defense, their women call me the a-hole. However, those same women are aroused by me. Know your place, sugarplum.
You need to go to a doctor. You sound like a sociopath. I am serious. You need help. I dont understand why the government dont do a thing when your dad hit you. Here they would take your kids away if you scold them hahah. Anyway i am really for you
> Girl likes being ruffled up a little > boy shares picture with relationship statistics > other girl wants him beaten and castrated > boy laughs MANically > girl send him to female psychiatrist for girl training > girl advises boy become a snitch, like a girl > boy laughs MANically [Freakishly big diq intensifies]
Porn featuring violence against women is more popular among women, than among men and we all know that women love a bad boy; because he *knows* that men are smarter, stronger and more virtuous than women. Hahahaha! You're so mad right now! 🥰
Never really thought about that kind of a label cause I've heard different definitions for alpha and beta from different, so I just don't bother with it altogether.
I just focus on myself and being me, doing what I like and improving myself as an individual.
I think there is less and less of such men and i think they will be like Dinosours in near future :D Cuz like common with all the separated families and kids growing with out real male role model they just will be more feminine. Thats just reallity. Single Women they think can rise their kids the man they want but it's not possible with out a real man role model.
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To me the definition of a man is ALPHA. think about the qualities most good men possess.. they are leaders of their household, providers, strong, and often times dominant. That's the way its supposed to be. I don't believe in modern day feminism... I believe in women's right however, if it involves demeaning men n taking away traditional family structure then no.
Archaic thinking you got there... gone are the times when women knew their place and men knew theirs... now we got more personalities than genders and everyone is trying to puzzle pieces them together. Used to be a man acted like this a woman acted like this and society just kept moving...
"I believe in women's right however, if it involves demeaning men n taking away traditional family structure then no."
Unfortunately in general society this is exactly what it means. Its the give an inch take a mile saying come true. If women aren't allowed to say no, all men can essentially be alpha. The more freedom women have the more difficult many of them will become. The more difficult the less men capable of taming them till there's essentially none left.
That term Alpha male alone is actually a bit primitive. It implicitly implies that men have to be viewed at as animals. Neglecting the intellectual capacity of human beings.
Human beings though have a tendency, don't behave like animals anymore and terminology that define animalistic behaviour have to be left behind too.
Humans now strive and triumph on leadership based on intellect and perish at leadership based on animalistic behaviour.
Probably. I wouldn't know though, since to me an alpha male is just a masculine guy that eats healthy and does lots of body building. It's really just a scale of masculinity and attractiveness. But I would say it's better that it's gone since not every woman wants a guy with huge muscles and abs.
Alpha males only exist in chimps not in humans. Sure some men can be dominating but they're not alpha technically.
The highest-ranking chimpanzee in a group is called an alpha-male. But in humans there's no such concept although we made it up this alpha bullshit just to refer a dominating men.
An alpha male is someone whom everybody follows and he leads his entire group. All female and other male bow upon him. But in humans now we have a concept of individuality. We don't necessary need a leader whom everybody has to follow.
So alpha male is just a metaphor for dominating men in human.
Sadly, true masculine, genuine and inspiring men are fading more and more. at least in the west. The masculine man is easily portrayed as "sexist", "misogynistic", having "toxic masculinity" and you name it. The west here is so full of weak men that just guys like myself who are on the self improvement journey (and who have also embraced their masculinity) make people around us insecure and feel "intimidated". And being an Officer in the Air Force only adds to it.
Only men believe in the alpha male concept. It’s more cringey than real. If a man calls another man alpha male it just means one of them is extremely insecure and the other one is a normal confident human being who values himself, like any other person should, man or woman.
Sorry I meant to say only incels not men.
The other type of man who believes in the alpha concept is the one with deep underlying mental health issues that make him overindulge in casual sex and risky behaviors.
Anyone that can’t recognize subtle personality differences that make up “alpha” and “beta” males shouldn’t be allowed to date or reproduce ;)
@VanillaSalt Lmao. I recognize the personality differences. But the label of alpha or beta is ridiculous. I also would argue that you’re absolutely not a “alpha male”. Cringe.
Ide argue your right I’m not a charismatic person. Ima hard headed leader but I’m not the center of attention generally. Don’t want to be...
@VanillaSalt Ok, and? That doesn’t make you alpha or beta, it just makes you a regular person. I find it so funny when people label themselves as alpha or beta. It's hilarious
Alpha and beta are just parts of their personality’s. Do they take charge? Are they charismatic? Are they strong and independent. These are alpha traits... betas are more compassionate and supportive. They pick up the slack for leaders. They just get a bad rap because these are more accepted as feminine traits... women tend to prefer alphas
@VanillaSalt I understand the difference perfectly. The only issue is the label they assign to these traits, because it implies that alphas are somehow superior than betas (literally the definition of alpha is first, beta means second). I know there are differences between people, but calling them alpha or beta is pathetic. They're regular people, not some sort of special specimen just because they happen to be more confident and sure of themselves than you.
The labels only words... and implied is alphas come first thus leaders... leaders lead...
@VanillaSalt calling somebody a leader is better than calling them alpha. Because a lot of guys think that being alpha means having sex with tons of women which is truly laughable
Just because you disagree with the words used and other have slanged the word to hell don’t change the fact their alphas.
A whores still a prostitute who’s still a harlot a hooker a jade a floozy a hussy a broad... many words same meaning... only in this case instead of choosing words that are synonymous we’re changing the definition... aka slang...
@VanillaSalt I don’t “disagree” with it, I just find it dumb how you come up with such a label. You can call that type of person a leader and that’s a good description. But alpha? Please. It makes them look like some sort of god that can’t be touched. Young men are influenced by that and they think they have to do risky stuff to become alphas. The label doesn’t do any good to anyone.
It’s a label... only sheep allow a label define them. We apply labels to everything and people don’t seem to understand they have to show they are above the label.
I honestly feel that women and their actions effect men to a higher degree than any label.
Example. I, for various reasons, don’t have time to date in person so I date online. I believe im average looking with interesting hobbies a good job and have various qualities women look for in men. I get no matches. Looking up why and tried many things... better bio, better pictures, lower standards, sending messages, paid services, multiple sites and apps... if a years worth of self-reflection molding myself gets me nowhere; I have to assume the problem is women. At least the women on dating apps.
Meanwhile I’ve been labeled many times... I consider why they say so and decide yay or nay... I decide who and what I am and if you disagree oh well.
Which do you suppose effects young men more, how people treat you or how they label you?
@VanillaSalt Eh, women don't affect men as much as their own male buddies. Men ignore what women want and only care what they think women want. Not the same things.
Women want something, men think women want something completely different, and this is based on what their male friends tell them. Their little group. That affects them 100x more than what women say lol
Then maybe women shouldn’t say nothing wrong when SOMETHINGS WRONG! You women are to blame for that sending your mixed signals. Furthermore Women don’t know what they want proof is when they take home the bad boy who one night stands them... bitch course he left he’s bad!
And don’t blame male buddies on this one I haven’t had a social life thanks to my job. Outside family I haven’t had time or interest.
@VanillaSalt Why did you escalate this from the "alpha male" label to blaming women? A lot of guys on this site blame women for every little tiny problem you have. Work on your issues instead of placing EVERYTHING on us. Look at the role you play here.
This is pathetic.
What most wanbees don't understand, that Alpha is not just act tough and be mean to everyone...
Alpha needs to be earned not just selfproclaimed. And forget that part of being Alpha is guarding weak, not bully them...
I rather be mappetier to those 'Alphas' then be them...
These days everyone is seaking for cool labels, but don't fully understand them.
That is enough of animal kingdom for today...
All an alpha is, is knowing what you want and making sure nothing gets in your way to achieving that goal. At least that’s how it is in my mind.
Yes exactly... not seeing much of that anymore.
I’m one of them. I sunk myself into 62k of student loan debt in order to ensure that I’ll have 2 degrees and that I’ll be able to get a job that pays 6 figures.
Did you get that job?
Still working on it. I’m in school right now for Cybersecurity. Pays anywhere from 80 starting out- 400k
Alright man... sounds good! I am rooting for ya!
Thanks
It very much still applies 😊
Just ask any of the guys who almost never get women vs. the guys at the top of the hypergamy.
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Women are scared of real alphas..
@FýrdracaDócincel I love Alphas 😁❤️
No.. you don't.
You think you do.
@FýrdracaDócincel Who are you to tell me what I like and don’t like? Alphas are my straight shot 😏
But if it goes against your opinion of what you think I like, then sure I’ll just “think” I do 😂 suits me fine lol
Sorry if you’re more concerned about it than I am
Someone with a brain.
If you met a real alpha, you would round up all your ghetto bitch friends and male orbiters and send them all after him for whatever reason you pull out of your ass.
The guys you think are alphas are just betas with more confidence than they ought to have.
Being good at playing the social game (and, more pathetically, being proud of it) is a submissive trait.
@FýrdracaDócincel
Being good at the social. game is a submissive trait? So you're imaging that by being a socially awkward weirdo you're an alpha male?
Implying*
@Barbaric LOL
@Barbaric
Obviously you can be tactless without being awkward.
No, they just might have different behaviors or traits than previous ones. There is still a hierarchy where men are ranked on status, sexual desirability, dominance etc and we are not all perceived/treated equally. There is still a spectrum of winner/loser upon which men will conventionally be placed.
Alpha/beta doesn't exist outside of math and science (and partially the military).
You make any money yet? I need a loan dog!
I make average wages. Still looking for a high paying job. These snobs don't want a professional, they practice nepotism.
I thought you be rolling in cash and bitches by now!
If only.
I hear ya man! The world is cray cray right now!
Too bad. Money is absolutely everything and people don't have enough of it. Only the top 0.1% have it all.
It's depending on culture of definition of males in the society, in some societies you will find that Alpha male culture is about that every male should be an Alpha male, it will make a lot Alpha male but it will not good for their psychological health to pretend being an Alpha male
Human alpha's dont exist
False. Alpha males in nature are decided by violence and I'm hyper violent, you know your place.
Wtf..
Exactly. You don't know.
What a clown.
@havingfun101 ok take your alpha cone head somewhere else you’re a joke 😂
Relational aggression is most commonly studied amongst females; either come up with a good argument or know your place. Ten of you with knives would be a good time for me.
@havingfun101 👁👄👁 HUH?
@havingfun101 Shows the problem liberal policies have with law enforcement and coddling to criminals, considering we have a inmate having access to the internet right now.
@havingfun101 “ten of you with knives” lol what an idiot! I’d kick your ass with one hand tied to my back. No knives, just fists, the old way.
@havingfun101 not true
@NYlatefun
I already have, except that they were black and some had clubs or Mexican & had cases of full & empty beer bottles and a gun. My step mother alone has tried to stab me more times than you've been in a slap fight. You're a white knight who was trying to save @Some_Goof but a masculine man would have addressed my arguments or at least said: "leave her alone", but you're a matarchial male.
"I don't make a habit of fighting the elderly!"
-- Lion Rafale, Virtua Fighter 4
@brennanhuff
That's changing.
"Sometimes you must Hurt in order to Know, Fall in order to Grow, Lose in order to Gain because life's greatest lessons are learned through PAIN!"
-- Nagato Uzumaki, Naruto Shippuden
@havingfun101 was that for me?
Shut up
@havingfun101 you are weird man.
"What a clown... you're weird, man." -- hoe saving wimp
@havingfun101 I am not defending girls here. I am saying you are full of shit.
As a civil engineer I deal with very aggressive men everyday in the construction site and I can tell you that I put them in their place with no need to even raise my voice. Violence has nothing to do with it.
@ThisIsMyOpinion
Firstly, false; you can't lie to me. Secondly, no one would listen to you unless you had authority over them or they were soliciting information. Work isn't a pure dominance/competence hierarchy due to societal rules. You're being dishonest or oblivious; I can't tell which. I regularly command hostel groups of men, because they instinctively know what I'll do if they act stupid. You all are simply domesticated, like women, so you can't tell what's going on. Other people look; I see, in this regard, I'm a seer.
@havingfun101 I am not their boss and I do not have any authority over them. I don't pay their salaries and I have to make sure they listen to me or they will do what I they want. I can do it without being violent with. Being violent more often than not only gets you ostracized instead of listened to. If you are someone worth listening to you will be listened to.
If you have zero of worth to say and on top of that are violent you won't last.
@ThisIsMyOpinion @havingfun101 WTF both of you sound like beta's... I am alpha... no I am... no your not... I am... LET IT GO!
A “man” that gets his quotes from Virtual Fighter! 😂 🤡
That made me laugh.
"I have to make sure they listen to me" - U... Y? Insurance, regulations... stuff gorillas and lions don't deal with? Keep it simple, stupid.
The threat of violence backstops all authority, which is why kings rule scientists instead of the other way around... it's about armies or in other words: violence.
Ostracizing people is proxy violence due to the risks associated with lack of reinforcements... wake up.
See? Worth to say... didn't you think this through as a child? Circle back to competence informed dominance hierarchy, as opposed to violence (different kind of competence) informed hierarchy. Smh...
@coachTanthony
Your sarcasm indicates that you were raised by a single mother and thus, are likely brown. Am I wrong?
@NYlatefun
It's okay to quote someone once one has acquired their fighting style, fat boy.
“Even if my enemy is far stronger; even if my body should fail me, I cannot lose.."
-- Neji Hyuga, Naruto Shippuden
@havingfun101 No sarcasm sorry.
The you're unironically calling yourself an alpha, while engaging in tone policing, like only a truly petty and weak person would.
Single mother raised darkie confirmed? 🤣
@havingfun101 You both sound like morons. Have at it. I could care less.
"Go ahead and fight, you dumb boys! I don't care, anyway!" -- a girl
@havingfun101 "The threat of violence backstops all authority" wrong. The king had all the authority to begin with not the scientist.
No matter how violent a man is he will always have to answer to some authority.
In my case I have neither yet I do make my will enforced by simply not backing down when they come at me.
So by being violent he is ostracized and therefore causing violence upon himself because he chose to use violence in the first place. That only shows why violence is not the best option to begin with. Society might had worked like that at some point but now anymore. We live in society not anarchy.
@havingfun101your intelectual level makes Trump look smart... that’s it...
@ThisIsMyOpinion
🧐🤣
au·thor·i·ty
/əˈTHôrədē/
noun
1. the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience.
"he had absolute authority over his subordinates"
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Dominance hierarchy is a type of social hierarchy that arises when members of a social group interact, to create a ranking system. In social living groups, members are likely to compete for access to limited resources and mating opportunities.
When Violence Pays: A Cost-Benefit Analysis of Aggressive Behavior in Animals and Humans: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3859192/
Thank you. 🥰
Mr. Trump was a student at Wharton when it was possible to derive an accurate IQ core from known SAT scores. Given the usual requirements for admission to a top school like Wharton, I estimate that Mr. Trump has a 156 IQ at the minimum.
www.jacksonville.com/.../fact-check-how-smart-president-elect-donald-trump-iq-score-isn-t-official
@havingfun101 Case in point! Why am I not surprised that you’re a Trump lover? 🤔
Just like your mediocre leader, uneducated, rude and delusional. 😂😘
@havingfun101 A society needs to have a leader. Sure, but that has nothing to do with violence. If it did the leader of a nation would always be chosen with a fight to the death. Instead most of the modern world has democracy.
Being agressive is not the problem. Being violent is. You can be agressive while debating you ideas whitout ever getting violent.
@NYlatefun
Call when you're leader of the free world, bud.
@ThisIsMyOpinion
In civilized society we rely mostly on proxy violence of war, police, poverty and shame; but at the end of the day, all of the above boil down to: 'I can kick your a$$.' Human alphas do exist and violence is behind all authority, even that granted by knowledge, thus the sayings: knowledge is power & knowing is half the battle. Being overly domesticated is a liability and the projection of strength isn't the attainment thereof. Democracy is mob rule, absent physical violence or competence hierarchy, a feminine form of government.
Article 4 Section 4 Of The U. S. Constitution: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."
@havingfun101 I can see why you're single...
@havingfun101 leader of the free world!!! Lol you really drank the kool aid...
Someone said it before, you’re weird, very weird!
@havingfun101 that is violence to stop violence. Not just violence for the sake of violence, completely different concepts.
While society accepts the second it completely disapproves of the first.
So if you are just violent for no good reason people will look down on you, not respect you.
Case and point, I do muay thai at my gym. I had many MANY loud mouths, alphas like you call them arriving and thinking they will be the best in two days. They have zero car with others and just swing full force. When me and others with experience notice that do you know what we do? During spar we make sure they regret coming to train that day.
No more alpha attitude. The term alpha itself was disproved by its creator look it up.
Once again when violence is used to stop stupid violence. It's acceptable and encouraged. The other way around you will just make sure no one likes you and get yourself a ass whooping.
@brennanhuff
70% of American people (wealthy countries) are overweight or obese, I'm shredded and marriage, cohabitation and childbirth are at all time lows. How single are you and isn't it by choice?
@NYlatefun
The term ‘Free World’ originated in the cold world era. Back then Free World was used to collectively refer to the non-communist countries including the US. Since US was/is the most powerful nation militarily and economically, the president of the US naturally earned the title of the leader of the Free World.
@ThisIsMyOpinion
The reason for violence is irrelevant to the discussion of as to whether or not authority is backed up by violence, which would be self evident if you would let go of the need to be right and see things as they naturally are.
You assume I'm loud and careless; this is psychological projection of matarchial masculinity. Also, I don't play fight, as it breeds weakness and a false sense of security.
Attitude has nothing to do with raw force.
Oh, "muh debunked?" 🤣 ... it's a term for a relative position, thus it may fluctuate & so, alpha is more of a hierarchical descriptor; not a living being, ergo no known absolute alpha exists in the living world. Are you even serious? ... You: muh fee-fee's. Me: raw power. 🧐
@havingfun101 I am single and it is by choice. You however and your psycho ass are single because you creep the shit out of every woman you come across
@brennanhuff
Called it! 😎
Awwww? The last women to romantically interact with me said that I was a badass with a nice ass. Girls don't say that over nothing; what I did to illicit such a response is too secret & nigh impossible a technique for your eyes.
@havingfun101 hahahahahha you’re so weird
@NYlatefun
Being a human omega isn't an argument; at least @ThisIsMyOpinion actually tried. Human beta is still better than human omega.
@havingfun101 are the voices in your head back? Take your meds ok? 😉
@NYlatefun It think he has sex dolls, but since he has voiced in his head. He thinks a woman is talking to him and complimenting him. When the reality is that, only a sex doll would be anywhere near him, because his creepy ass can't attract any woman lol
@havingfun101 the reason for it matters. And a lot. Go outside and punch someone. Next go outside and punch someone who is assaulting a child. It is very different. One can put you in jail the other will get you praised.
Yes it was debunked by the guy who came up with the term after a study with wolves that he used to try to compare to humans. Not long after he wrote a book about it he himself saw wolves display behavior who disproved it and tried to tell society about it. Sadly since some people feel better about calling themselves "alpha", it's an ego thing, the term stuck around. Simple as this.
@NYlatefun
You have no argument; you're just pitching a fit.
@brennanhuff
This is why I never promoted you to human gamma. You're too weak & indirect to be a gamma. I haven't purchased a robot vagina because I'm too big for 90% of them. You wouldn't understand.
@ThisIsMyOpinion
You're demoted to human gamma. I don't get caught by the police or identified by any victims, although I only act in self defense. You're projecting your own incompetence onto me. Either way, what I command goes, because if not, I use force; otherwise I'd make a suggestion. The saying "might is right" is meant to convey this obvious truth. Look, gamma, I I already explained your (and his) false equivalence informal logical fallacy, by way of a realistic lense and no amount of "muh created it" appear to authority informal logical fallacy will change that. I'm an apex predator, no creature on earth is a match; because I'm always in control, especially when I choose not to be. Brain with me.
@havingfun101 what is a human gamma?
If you only act on self defense of course the police wants nothing with you.
What? At any point I talked about you. I am simply giving examples, but I never said anything about you.
I actually laugh at the last part "Brain with me" 😂
What you command goes? No one in real besides a dictator can say that, even presidents have restrictions to what they can do.
If you use force everytime someone does not agree with you or does what you say you are simply out of your mind and are not a functioning human being.
You're a human gamma & your example was one alluding to incompetence, which must come from your mind; as I know better than to get close to being caught, as my many, many undiscovered felonies make clear.
You're welcome! 🥰
Your functional human being is my ultra domesticated wimp.
"Pick your battles and win them." -- My Twin Brother
@havingfun101 Felonies... PALEASSSSSE... you hide behind a keyboard all day long... look at this pathetic thread. Online tough guys are the best! So enjoyable. You are a legend mate.
You're projecting your own nature onto me. Deception is a product of weakness; you wouldn't understand, human omega. I once ran a larceny ring that the FBI was looking for, I've seen myself on the news jerking it in public and been in more fights (also felonies) than one may shake a stick at, to say nothing of drugs and arson. 🤣👊🖕
@havingfun101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3hTwsvJV_A
See what I mean? You're matarchial to the bone.
@havingfun101 Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha OMG nobody with that kind of history is on GAG bragging about it. I am on here because I am content creator. Why are you? Why not be that cool bad ass spooky scary tough guy... why are you HERE MAN... Come on. Be honest.
Only a very astute person can tell someone's history, even partially, by looking at or interacting with them. You're a liar or you wouldn't say I am, without proof, human omega. I'm just being me.
Appeal to false authority: This fallacy is used when a person uses a false authority as evidence for their claim. These fallacious arguments from authority are the result of citing a non-authority as an authority.
@havingfun101 I get paid 6 figures a year to wreck fraudulent fucks like you! I get paid to be here. You don't... stay behind your keyboard where you belong!
Oh, that's funny! You receive Affirmative Action & your job is... what? Hocking self help jargon? Your accomplishments aren't an argument, human omega.
@havingfun101 Well on GAG is exposing little sissy's like you! And you might be my biggest sissy catch yet!
Leave me out of your homoerotic fantasies, human omega.
@havingfun101 Do better... you are an ALPHA.. come on man.
Alpha's are dependent upon external validation. I said that I'm hyper violent, not an alpha male or did you not notice? You sound like a dating coach, not a football coach; marriage, cohabitation and childbirth are at all time lows. Business must be good, but it's not working out for the customer, en masse... oh, well.
@havingfun101 Keyboard warriors are not hyper violent unless they are just killing animals in their back yard. I've seen havingfun101 before in my previous career... juveniles who were molested or beaten or what have you then turn to the internet for revenge with tough talk and pseudointellectual speak. If anybody understands I do. So there is help if you choose to accept it.
Again, I've been jumped a bakers dozen times as of a few months ago; often they were armed and in large groups. However, I wasn't starved, beaten and tortured as a kid; but that doesn't change the truth and the help that you describe is just paying a usually female psychologist who's useless outside of feelings. What you're really asking me to do is become more controllable for your sake, because I'm more powerful than you are able to control, thus your outlook. I'm not a member of the matriarchy, which is what you're used to; my father has similar attitudes and is similarly weak, petty and easily controlled by external forces.
*Was
@havingfun101 Wow you just don’t break character at all Ha Very cool!
Imagine being such a matarchial male that you can't even see through another man's eyes...
@havingfun101 Yep Im bored. It's been fun man... to say the least.
You did well today, human omega. I'll be working on my dancing if you need me! 😍
@havingfun101 You keep getting funnier and funnier xD
So you were involved with the FBI, you keep doing fellonies and not get caught, you act in a violent way everytime you don0t get your way.
BUT let's assume that all of that is true. I don't believe it for a second but me and @coachtanthonyT are having a good time with you so I will play along.
If all of that was true that would just make you human trash. Utter garbage and nothing more! xD That's why this is so funny you actually think those things impress someone and are supposed to make you look bad ass. Not even close!
@ThisIsMyOpinion
Do you feel strong beating on that strawman argument? I didn't say we were involved with the FBI, we got out before they caught up.
I'm only violent in self defense, except very rarely when I do make a command and it's not followed and I drop the hammer.
You must be a liar like Tanthony or you'd take me at my word and roll on.
Hey, jerking it in public was an act social commentary, so try not be be so jealous!
@havingfun101 Jealous of what? You have nothing to be jealous about.
That's just statistically inaccurate, human gamma. 😎
@havingfun101 uh? What statistics have to do with the fact that you are a clown and that for me to envy you I would have to be under the influence of hallucinogenics?
Hey, don't drag hallucinogens into this! I thought you were referring to wang size, in which case; I'm statistically impressive, which explains why you so jelly!
@havingfun101 what? Since when you are talking about that?
You are officially insane. I am out.
You were never in. I mentioned it as one of many felonies. Your relational aggression is as feminine as ever, human gamma.
@havingfun101 suuuuuuuuure.
Glad you agree.
TL;DR: only betas cohabitate or marry.
Bros, women file 75% of divorces, a woman can force herself on a teenage boy (hermesmann vs seyer 1993) & still get child support from him or his parents & when the woman make$ more, the divorce rate goes up by 50%, from roughly 50%. Marriage, cohabitation and childbirth are at all time lows.
Is this pic real? I never understand why some white women let this happen to them and accept it. Iwould beat the shit if him of hire someone to beat the fuck of him
I've been jumped by armed & unarmed men over a dozen times & brown women love them some blue eyed white devil. Additionally, men are roughly twice as strong as women. She likes to feel dominated, like all women. Get right or get left.
Only cowards love such men. I still would hire someone to beat the fuck of him or maybe let his dick cut off
Omg this makes me so angry. Nobod should treat someone like this and it does not matter which gender you have.
But i am sorry how you get treated by some assholes
Hahahaha! My dad tried to beat me in my sleep, I've been jumped with my jacket pulled over my head, on ice and been in several knife fights, starting at the age of three. You couldn't hurt me with all your male acquaintances at the same time. All you could do is try to get close enough to bite me and I'd sense you malice from a mile away. Pretty is skin deep, but ugly is to the bone. Refer back to my above comment on marriage, cohabitation and childbirth being at all time lows. We see you girls.
After I wreck their whole crew, in pure self defense, their women call me the a-hole. However, those same women are aroused by me. Know your place, sugarplum.
You need to go to a doctor. You sound like a sociopath. I am serious. You need help. I dont understand why the government dont do a thing when your dad hit you. Here they would take your kids away if you scold them hahah. Anyway i am really for you
I am really sorry for you**
Again it is not ok to hit anyone except when it comes to self defense. You should go to Police when some tries to hit you again
> Girl likes being ruffled up a little
> boy shares picture with relationship statistics
> other girl wants him beaten and castrated
> boy laughs MANically
> girl send him to female psychiatrist for girl training
> girl advises boy become a snitch, like a girl
> boy laughs MANically
[Freakishly big diq intensifies]
Only insane girls like such boys
Porn featuring violence against women is more popular among women, than among men and we all know that women love a bad boy; because he *knows* that men are smarter, stronger and more virtuous than women. Hahahaha! You're so mad right now! 🥰
I am not mad, just shocked at your insanity. You know bdsm in porm does not necassarily means violonce
Whatever you say sweetheart. Daddy loves you. 😍
True Alphas don't label themselves, they just live their lives and people choose to follow them.
I think they still exist but in this society male awareness of the female gender is more expected in this day and age
And I mean, respect and consideration is expected these days
Rather than a ladies man
Never really thought about that kind of a label cause I've heard different definitions for alpha and beta from different, so I just don't bother with it altogether.
I just focus on myself and being me, doing what I like and improving myself as an individual.
Alphas aren't a thing of the past but there are so many little beta bitches running around the alphas are less noticable.
I think there is less and less of such men and i think they will be like Dinosours in near future :D Cuz like common with all the separated families and kids growing with out real male role model they just will be more feminine. Thats just reallity. Single Women they think can rise their kids the man they want but it's not possible with out a real man role model.
No, not for me anyways. I prefer alpha males. Don't say you're an alpha male, juts show me ;)