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Are women after 35 useless? (Page 2)
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As a guy of 48 I'd definitely say no. I'm married but if something happened and I was single again 35 would be on the young side...
Women are valued based on looks (I didn't invent this), and as they age, looks decline. If they have less value as they age, then they focused on the wrong type of value. Did Ruth Bader Ginsburg lose her value after 35?
old men pay for sex that young hot guys get for free. she just wants your money, not you
@aliali8 and that's the value placed on men. Sucks on both sides eh?
Females, in general, are useless. Unless you plan to knock one up. In which case she needs to be as young and fertile as legally attainable. After 30, females are post-wall slags looking for a beta-wallet to parasitically latch onto. They might be good for a pump and dump. Nothing more.
I think men are still willing to cum in our asses at any age, they just donât want us as a trophy in their cabinet anymore. 😌
Don't think like this.
No, I would say if anything I would rather date a women who's older because of their wisdom they could inpart on to me.
Blame that on psychology and biology we canât help but be attracted to younger women because theyâre more fertile
Yeah you see a lot of that on the internet. But do I see it reflected around me in real life? No. Which is interesting.
They're not useless. Many men want to have a family, and a woman needs to be fertile for that, so men prefer younger women.
Women are fertile a lot longer than thought before.
Also most men donât want kids anymore.
In our experience, women around that age are just starting to have fun. ;)
Yes - their experience can be turn on.
To men who are family oriented and looking for something serious, yes, they are highly undesirable.
To men in general they are not as desired as younger. Essentially ALL men will date a 20 year old. Only SOME men will date a 35 year old.
Not all men will date a 20 yr old. Not all men are perverts.
@aliali8 yes essentially all will.
they will only use her for sex, not marry her. Not every man marries for sex. Not every woman marries for money
@aliali8 but men wanting to get married who want children ALL would prefer to marry a 20 year old over a 35 year old. A 35 year old cannot reliability give them children on a relaxed time table.
Men are way more likely to use a 35 yr old for sex.
A 35 yr old man would struggle to relate to a 20 yr old. The only thing they would have in common is sex. A 35 yr old man would find it much more likely to fall in love with a 35 yr old woman.
Decent men date for an emotional connection, not sex. If you see a 45 yr old chasing 20 yr old girls, there is a very high likelihood that he's simply dating her for sex. It is highly unlikely a 45 yr old would be able to relate to a 25 yr old in any way, shape or form. Not saying its 100% impossible, but the chances of that happening is very slim. Usually anything beyond a 10/11 yr age difference, both persons would find it difficult to relate to each other.
On the internet, men love dreaming that 22 yr olds love dating 39 yr old men. But in reality, overwhelming majority of young women prefer to date men within 1-7 years apart.
@aliali8 "perverts" go ahead and call him a man hater next as you've done with me aswel. Clearly all the information that men like MrOracle and myself went straight over your head. We get it, the truth hurts you.
@TruthBringer
Most men marry women younger than they are; with the difference being between two and three years in Spain,[9] the UK reporting the difference to be on average about three years, and the US, two and a half.[10][11] The pattern was also confirmed for the rest of the world, with the gap being largest in Africa.[12] A study released in 2003 by the United Kingdom's Office for National Statistics concluded that the proportion of women in England and Wales marrying younger men rose from 15% to 26% between 1963 and 1998. Another study also showed a higher divorce rate as the age difference rose for when either the woman was older or the man was older.[13][14] A 2008 study, however, concluded that the difference is not significant.[15][16]
https ://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships#:~:text=Most%20men%20marry%20women%20younger, US%2C%20two%20and%20a%20half.
@TruthBringer
Those in their early 20s have an average age difference in their relationships of about two to three years, but once people get into their 40s, that average age gap increases to about seven years. The age difference increases for older male-female couples, too (shown in red below), though not by as much.
https
://fivethirtyeight. com/features/whats-the-average-age-difference-in-a-couple/
@aliali8 First of all, sourcing wikipedia is actually one of the dumbest thing you can do. Also, the funny thing is, youâre pulling another strawman here. Itâs only natural that men seek out women who arenât too far away from their own age. A 60 year old would much rather have a 35 year old than a 55 year old. Then again that same 60 year old would prefer a woman in her 20s. Same goes for 30 year old men. They must rather have a woman in her 20s than one of their own age. Higher divorce rates are also another strawman to the actual topic here. The question is whether women over 30 are useless or not. Funny you still bring divorce rates into this as women are the ones who initiate around 70% of divorces.
In the end, you don't even know your own point to make.
@TruthBringer
"A 60 year old would much rather have a 35 year old than a 55 year old. Then again that same 60 year old would prefer a woman in her 20s."
A 60 yr old would very much rather have a 35 yr old man too than a 55 yr old. Who ever told you that 65 yr old men look better than 30 yr old men? I find 30 yr old men more attractive than 37 yr old men. Women grow old but men don't grow old? I don't think so.
@aliali8 Putting words in my mouth wouldn't help. You're going all over the place and it's clear my point went RIGHT over your head. Like everyone's did actually đđ¤Śââď¸
@TruthBringer
Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.
https:/
/www. psychologytoday. com/us/blog/meet-
catch-and-keep/201904/what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage
@TruthBringer so i don't know what you're talking about most women want men who are 13.5 years older. Women tend to marry men 3.5 years older
@aliali8 Like I've said before, the point went RIGHT over your head. You're going off topic. It's clear you're damage controlling at this point.đ¤Śââď¸
@TruthBringer hmm... i like to date guys 2-6 years older. Thats my ideal age range.
My mom is 3 months older than my dad too. So no, we young ladies aren't into grandpas.
@aliali8 The topic is still going right over your head. You don't even know what we are discussing here đ
@aliali8 I don't know where you get they dont relate. I relate way better to 18 to 22 year old women than i do those at my age. Older women dont have much in common with me usually except sex. Younger women have a ton in common with me because they are still trying to learn about the world and its fun to try new things with them and show them cool things I've already found. Older women are like I've done that and dont like it im not doing it. Or they have some time commitments and dont have time to just fly to another country where an 18 year old can just take 2 weeks off from her barista job easily and go to the beach with little notice. An established career woman or a woman w kids doesn't have that option usually. Also young women dream about someday getting married and having kids in general terms that is easy to work into my plans while older women have very specific demands about what they want, ie i need to have a child asap because im old. Im also old so i only want one. by the way my career is in this city so i must live here. Where a young girl says id like to have kids eventually and im flexible with how many and i am open to living anywhere as long as its not too far from my family. So easy to work with that.
@bamesjond0069 listen dude, if you like playing father to your girlfriend, then thats your own preference. We all know there are a lot of weirdos out there. Just be who you are.
@bamesjond0069 Just ignore her, can't argue with stupid. She will only just twist your words to suit her own narrative.
of course they are. The only way to stay useful is to become a slut. Or see how all men will move on to younger sexy girls
Is there any reason for that, but it sounds like people are generalising, so I'd say no, I disagree with them being useless.
Iâm 23 and like older women I like women 35 and a little older. No they are not useless but if I was older maybe I would desire a younger girl.
I met my wife when she was 42 and married her when she was 44. I was 38 when we got married.
No of course not, Shy Guys are way more undesireable to Women.
No, women over 35 are not useless, but I don't like women who are older than me regardless.
Nah that's not true you can still find a decent man after 35. It's just harder.
no one is useless, what a horrible thought, the "Men" you are talking about are not Good guys, you don't want them anyway
men usually do go for younger women but no all depends on what you've done with your life in your youth and how ya take care of yourself
Lmao downvoted!
no after that i bet u usefull to your Kids of u are mother u are always usefull
No. Mpst guys would rather have someone closer to age for romance. For sex younger is good.
Men do have that preference, but that doesn't make older women useless, just less desirable as a *trend*.
I'm waiting for girl with the mind of a 50 something and the body of a 20 something. That's why I've never been married. 😎
you can't have everything. unless you want to die alone.
@aliali8 You two should get together
đ¤ŁI plan to live forever. So far so good! đđ˝
Good Plan
There's a lot to be said for longevity.
@SuccessfulHornDog nahh.. i have no reason to get together with a grandpa who can't fuck
@aliali8 that's a little harsh. He's a good looking guy, but its your decision
@SuccessfulHornDog If you're not interested in dating 65 yr old woman, don't force me onto a 65 yr old man.
@aliali8 did I force you? I apologize for that. I didn't realize that I was being that forceful
@SuccessfulHornDog it felt violating that you even brought that up as a good option
Yeah, I felt violated too. (rolleyes)
thats cap, im attracted to older girls so i couls go up to 35 no problem, it all depends on the person
Between 15-25 years old womans like Africa. Half discovered , half virgin.
25-35 like America totally discovered and excellent.
35-45 like India and Japan so hot , sintine and beatiful.
45-55 like France survived in a war , injured but still attractive.
55-60 like Germany , lost the war but still have hopes.
60-70 like Russia , wide , calm but no ones visit.
70-xx like Turkey , good history but terrible future...
The problem is partially what women themselves do. Women quite often would prefer to date someone a bit older than their own age. Then they get to their 30s and they are on the wrong side of that.
Women over 35 aren't useless because they may try and hook me up with their nubile daughter.
Fr this girl a few years older than me was fucking hot asf and we were talking just casual flirty. I find out she has a daughter turning 18. She couldnt handle it when i was clearly more into the daughter.
i've seen beautiful women in their 30s who look just as or more attractive than 20 year olds, i don't know which men wouldn't want them
a women at any age IS NEVER EVER USELESS they can love better then any woman younger then 35
I would be worried if she's desperate to settle but absolutely not. Fuck Red Pill!
If thatâs the cast put out to paster then. As we get older if you want children be higher risk factors. I feel Iâm at best moment in my life at 45. People say that âyour uselessâ their useless ones.
Not true. I'm 35, and I know I am not useless. ANNOYING but not useless.
Don't let men get to you and think you're useless just because your over 30
Not useless but yeah any single guy no matter what age most likely prefers women in their twenties if it is possible. They might not get one but they can still try.
Iâm sorry to hear you donât appreciate older women. You are likely inadequate though.
@Orangesareyummy b/c I have an opinion you don't like lol
No because men are most desirable in their 20s. They have better erections and a better outlook on life.
@Orangesareyummy I'm actually 18
in my opinion most people who are over 15 years older/younger generally donât let. If you think itâs acceptable to have your views know that because of them, some women have the same view, if not lower about you.
Then donât make assumptions. Life changes a lot.
@Orangesareyummy 15 years is extreme but overall older guys have a much easier time getting younger girls then vice versa its a fact of life XD
No sorry older guys dont get women who are younger like they claim. It doesnât worn out usually if there is too much of a gap. I know men are more open to dating older women. When I was 18 I thought older guys were weird and went with guys my own age or a few years older. I did date a younger guy.
@Orangesareyummy My Dad is 8 years older than my mom. My brother is 10 years older than his wife. My sister married a guy 6 years older. That's just in my immediate family and I see it everywhere.
I'm sure it happens the other way sometimes, maybe in like a divorce / second marriage situation where the woman is only interested in younger guys to get back at an ex or something.
Your profile says youâre in your 30s. Go away Junior
I think you should move to a metropolitan area and observe human behavior
I think once yoh grow up youâll see much more at a deeper level. If not, youâre just another waste of space, miserable human.
10 years is t a major age gap.
No, not at all. Besides, what you described does not mean these women are useless. I don't share their opinion, but undesirable is not useless.
Everybody's different some people may actually care for for older women in their 35 and older everybody's different
Yes. Yes they are. In fact, 30 is at latest womens expiration date. Usually somewere between 25-30. (And if someone is commenting about my age, I'm a dude and dudes get hotter the older we get, unlike women.)
in my opinion guys who are in their early 20s give the best sex because they can actually get a nice hard erection. Youâre nothing.
While I can be sarcastic at times, I totally mean what Iâm saying with you.
@Orangesareyummy I'm in my mid 20s and I'm able to get erections đ¤ˇââď¸ Fyi, I do have a girlfriend who loves me so I'm good
No not likely. Because youâre only concerned with yourself. Your erection likely isnât what it was in your early 20s and soon youâll be 30 and it diminishes even more.
You wonât have her long though. Soon you will be too old. She will be more interested in something new. Thatâs what happens though when you have the mindset you do. I go by the golden rule.
@Orangesareyummy I'm not only concerned with myself just because I'm man enough to admit a womans physical beauty often has faded away by 30. I will stay with my girlfriend as long as she wants me, while physical attraction is important at the beginning, we do have an emotional relationship too
Dudes certainly don't get hotter as they age. The famous older male celebrities like George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, etc may still be good looking in their old age, but they were hotter when they were younger. Same thing holds true for the older female celebrities. Nobody gets hotter as they age, male or female.
Aging bad or well is not a gender thing, is a individual thing. As long as you take care of yourself you can be hot until very late in your life.
Some guys are 20 looking like shit and women with 40 looking hot as fuck!
Not all dudes get hotter with age. There are also many dudes who look worse with age especially the balding ones.
No age limit for love and there's no age limit to start relationships but after 30 I become very specific to choose my soul mate which is very hard but not impossible to find 🙏
Well i want a fanily so i started looking for the right girl now , i don't understand why western women in general ( not all for sure) don't want kids until it's about to be late?
Weâve been told by men that they donât want kids.
@Orangesareyummy sure when there is hook up culture they don't want to be responsible
Well if guys donât want kids I donât think itâs right to have one anyways.
@Orangesareyummy not all of them but that's why this point should be clear before getting into relationship. I think dating apps are good for this purpose which iswhy I'm using one
Hookup culture has partly led to men mistreating women and the other way around. No feeling no heart.
Itâs cancer to humanity.
@Orangesareyummy i agree
If I'm 30 - 40 they are viable, but they'd have to be a virgin, unless a widow. I hope to marry at 24 and find a woman 21 - 27. I am currently 22, so here's hoping.
That is non-sense ! Women that I know have gotten better with age!
Nope, my mom isnât worthless
Well I will always go for younger girls but no women over 35 are not useless.
Women that 35 are not useless
They support their son/daughter
every day a new fresh slut turns 18. Women after 35 are damaged goods.
The men on these forums are idiots tbf
Not true, im 24 and I've desired and been attracted women from at least 40 and up since i was 16. Theyâre better than girlsy age
Lol I prefer older women anyway. As long as she isn't a cougar.
Its good that many women are learning the redpill, i think.
MGTOW say the same thing. That is a branch of Red Pill.
@Orangesareyummy You say the same thing.
Iâm mainly being sarcastic because Iâm tired of how men treat women.
@Orangesareyummy Poor baby. How attractive are you?
Very pretty and fit. But Iâm very healthy too which makes everyone look better.
@Orangesareyummy I hope your ugly friends will start getting treated better then.
They are treated well because they choose not to go with men who donât appreciate them.
@Orangesareyummy Indeed, they are very choosey.
It shouldnât really be a matter of being choosy. It isnât to them, itâs more like the guy is nice to them they are nice to the guy. Easy as that.
@Orangesareyummy AWHOOOOOOOO AYAAAYAYAYYAYA Kumbaaya!
You donât want my friends to get more attention. So stop acting like you give a shit.
No itâs usually the guy that carries on being useless until such time as the undertaker carries him off in a van
I find younger women more fun more more desirable more fertile but that's just me I think no matter what age you are there is someone for ya
I mean it's natural. it's even the same thing in transgender world. they want young cute transgender.
Uh... pls don't say things like that...
Women after 30 become to men what men before 30 were to women.
Actually when women are in their early 20s guys in their 30s seem like nerds. They arenât as attractive as men in their 20s either. Thatâs right- women enjoy attractive men too.
@Orangesareyummy 30(ish) is the age where women begin to loss the easy attention from men and they canât as easily get through life on their looks... so THOSE women become more desperate and less shallow they start wanting âa real manâ so by then men are more often financially stable, more mature, etc.
The power balance shifts
No youâre just mad because youâve hit the wall. You automatically cast a negative light. Like being desperate and having a power shift. Ever think maybe people grow up and realize more what they really want, not just what men like you tell them that they want.
by the way most younger women think older guys are nerds. Women are also more financially stable in their 30s too.
Dumb forums are like cancer.
Young women are cute. Women get sexy when they hit 30.
Yes, their pussy is all used up. It's all wrinkled, worn out, and flabby.
Women are generally useless except for cooking and sex.
And some men aren't even useful there đ¤ˇđźââď¸đ
No donât read that stuff.
Nah Never, Girls 35 are like sex crazed addicts.
Are men under 10 inches?