Its not necessarily all about the age if a person cares for themselves.. I can see kind of about the children part but look at Katy Perry! She had a healthy baby at almost 35 i think and she looks good. Its so double standard because half the older men aren't that good looking. Im not trying to be sexist or anything but people need to face the music here and stop being so picky. An older woman is worthy of love just like a 22 year old like me and such.
You can always point out the 1% who are exempt from these rules. Katy Perry is a beautiful rich celebrity. She has work-out coaches, dieticians, hair & makeup artists, stylists, and the money to afford any clothes, makeup, etc. she wants. Of course she is an exception.
This applies to "normal" people, not the 1% at the top.
I do hope I’m not useless! I’ll be 48 this year lol My partner is 15yrs younger. He has dated women of all ages. I guess we clicked, so age wasn’t such a big deal. We don’t look much different in age anyway, so no one notices. (Wouldn’t care if they did). Also, he doesn’t want children and I’m certainly not having any more, so everyone’s happy.
Lool ugly bastards in their 30s/40s on gag trashtalk 30 years old women although they look like grandma. Not even a fucking grandma want such shallow incels. And guys who try to explain it with fertility are are just trying to find a bullshit excuse for their shallowness. If all young women were infertile and only old women were fertile, these fucktards still go for younger women. So nah. I also personally find men in their early 20s more attractive since many men after 29 loose their hair or getgrey hair /became fatter/ get wringles etc. I also think it is disgusting when men in their 30s or older want 18-21 years old girls since women's brain develope till their middle 20s. This is why i treat any man who is like 30 like shit because they dont deserve better. For me these guys have pedo tendencies. So i think people between 18-24 should date someone around their age.
I wouldn't go with useless. But women are more fertile younger. By the time a woman hits 35 most of her eggs are gone. By the time she hits 40 something like 97% are gone. So the guys that go after younger women are attracted to that. And contrary to what one of the idiot pinks thinks, its not because they predatory. its literally fertility.
Take me for instance, I was 29 when i met my wife, She was almost 21 at the time. When i met her, there was no intention of marrying because i thought it wouldn't be possible. She was the one that chose to go that route with me, not me, at least not until i had issues with my wisdom teeth that almost killed me, she was the only one that visited me in the hospital, not my family or my friends. Women that think that an age gap like mine somehow is predatory are just straight up stupid and cannot back their statements with fact.
What the... ignore them, if it worked for you then your all good different people have age limits on dating but predatory is a bit of stretch its not like your double or triple her age
@tiptoe98 Yeah thats just creepy, I dont want to be someones dad lol, i mean i do but i dont want to be with someone where i would be old enough to be her dad or her grandfather.. eww.
Not to me! Of course, I tend to assume at that age one is divorced and has a child or two. Women over 35 are not desirable to men who want families. Men and women who are both a little older and wiser can be good companionship to one another, when things like family and passing the seed isn't the priority.
So, if a woman has focused on her career and made something of herself and then decides she wants to be a wife and have a family at 35, she's in trouble. If she's 35 has children, never been married and now wants to start a 'real' family, she's in even deeper doo doo. But if she is content to just have a partner to share life with, she should be ok.
So it really depends on what women want, not what men want.
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Men who think this are idiots.
While it's true that fertility is something to start thinking about at that age with menopause inching closer, it doesn't mean it's over if you want babies. I mean, my mom had me when she was in her late 30s. She didn't want a kid until she was settled in her career.
That's a bunch of b. s. from shallow dumb dudes. Yeah it's true that men generally prefer younger women and women tend to prefer older men. That's just a statistic though. I and many others would be thrilled if an attractive older women took an intrest in me. It's not true women are desirable at all ages it just depends on who you ask.
Just to clearify I find women over 30 attractive often though I like women of all ages. I like stretch marks and wrinkles sometimes too it doesn't bother me.
And you're not undesirable if you're 35. You're only undesirable if you've been spending the years of the ages 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, and 34 ... being a slut. You can't do that and then expect a good man to want to marry you.
I swear to you anynmous, whoever you are. There is a lady at work I know. I am 27, I reckon she's something like 35 can't be less. But I have massive crush on her. Secretly. She has a cute baby face, and a smile that is wow. And she's quite and polite. And I am very sure many guys my age can relate to similar stuff. So from this sense I would honestly say no, not useless at all if it were up to us. But totally it is not up to us. Many times we choose partners based on social shit.
No, they are not. WOmen above the age of 35 are still valueable and beautiful. In fact, older women are more attractive than younger women. Women think "the younger I am, the prettier I am", but that's not true.
Attractiveness is ont only based on looks, but also you rpersonality, attitude and life experience.
As a woman and one who just turned 30 I'm no longer thinking of myself as meeting any man without baggage. Being from the black community and dark skinned. My chances of finding love might be incredibly slim the older I get. But that's if I listen to all this racist crap.. It is what it is. If it's on the cards to find love then I will. I just hope that whoever I meet, he's ready to settle down and mature enough to understand what it involves being in a long term relationship.
Could have been worded better cause its obviously going to trigger all the feminists, i think what you meant to ask was, are women over 35 less attractive to men. In many ways yes, they are less likely to conceive, their looks have faded, and studies show single unmarried women 30+ have lower levels of happiness than married ones with families.
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Useless? No, not at all.
Less attractive and desirable? Definitely.
Although most of them do not recognize it at the time, and typically take it for granted, women own the dating game when they are in their teens and twenties. They hold all the cards during that time in their lives. Beginning around age 30, the tables turn and the advantage shifts to men, and that continues for the remainder of men's and women's lives.
Wise women should take advantage of their 20 and find a good mate to spend their lives with, because later in life they do not have near the chances of success. Unfortunately, women today are given a very different message.
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I doubt any man would turn down Jessica Biel and she's over 35. She looks really young to say she's almost 40. She pulled off playing early 20s well in the Sinner.
Hell I doubt many would turn down Salma Hayek and she's 54 but still looks amazing.
It's all about how you carry your age. I've seen some 20 somethings look older than their mother.
Well of course celebrities will still look attractive. They have the money to stay good looking with surgery and such. They are an exception not the standard
@Still-alive 100% correct. Gotta love how they think celebrities (who often go under the knife) represent the average woman. This is obvious wishful thinking and damage control on their end.
5... one of my friends is 36 but looks 26. This woman at my job is late 40s but looks late 20s. My best friend's girl just turned 35 but looks like she's in her mid 20s. One of my mom's friends looks early 30s but is late 40s. My mom looks late 30s and she's in her mid 50s. Oh bonus one of my professors was late 30s but she looked late 20s. The average woman over 35 doesn't look their age at all. They usually look 5 to 10 years younger (w/o makeup). So no I don't think women over 35 are useless if we're talking about dating. And yes women are usually the most attractive in their late teens/early 20s but there are some who get better with age. Some who don't blossom until 30.
5 people doesn’t make the average woman. I don’t think they are useless but you’re just kidding yourself if you think most woman over 35 aren’t losing their looks badly unless they are rich or otherwise well off.
If you eat right, workout, moisturize your skin often, drink lots of water, don't smoke or drink and don't enter stressful situations often then you can look really young for a long period of time especially if you have good genes. All these women I listed do that (well except for my professor I'm not sure what she does but I know she was vegan and working out).
@Anonymous Like @still-aliveI has said, you're just giving anecdotal evidence. love how people always think that the people they "know" represent the majority of the population or the group we specifically talk about. If it were that simple, then you wouldn't even need to point it out since discussions wouldn't even take place, to begin with. Fact remains, women in their 30s are entering a phase where they are losing their looks and their fertility starts to drop. Doesn't mean they are ugly or infertily, it means they are starting or are about to start. This is why so many women around that age who are still unmarried or at least have no kids are more desperate to settle down compared to that 20 year old who still has a lot of time.
There are many millions of married men who have no intention of trading in their over 35 year old wives. The happen to love their wives, and find them useful for many things. Including having a loving relationship with.
Depends on your point of view. To some of us, 35 is in the hot young chick range. But even when I was 20, over 35 was not over the hill. Some women have not even reached their prime by that age.
35 is a bit too young for me. Again, it depends on your point of view. I have two neighbor women in their 60s who are engaged. I'm sure their fiances don't think they are useless. Nor do I.
All girls are hot girls that are younger are some times more mature. But women in there 30 and 40s even 50s they are in there prime it really just depend on how active and motivated in life they are so to be honest there are to 25 year old girls I would pick over older women. But at the same time there are older women I would pick over younger women it's really who you are. As a person
No women aren´t useless because nobody is useless. It depends for what. Younger women are sexually more attractive so guys are talking about them more online. Older women are more settled down and reasonable. Don´t judge by what you read online, because most times we guys think less about write down.
Those guys are overstating things and making a broad assumption. While the language is harsh, the point they're making is that women have a peak high value with looks and career making them highly desirable to men from 20-30. Then typically the looks "may" start to go even though they have a great career and so their value in the eyes of some men diminishes. Not all women have this happen to them so you could look around and draw a different conclusion.
No of your with a company long enough or get higher oay when you move- yoh are not at your peak salary as a woman by 30. Also since you think women are less valuable after 30 I think you’re inadequate. You’re 50? Yeah you really should be 25 again. Otherwise, you are inadequate. Don’t dis older women. They are lovely, too. Most guys over 45 are inadequate looks wise as apposed to a 23 year old guy. Young guys like that can get it up much better too. Much harder too. Yohh in want me to keep going?
Big no. Besides life begins at 40, this includes women. A person is never useless, even in death you get some credits. Never heard of people saying, why can't you be like the way your brother or sister was? You are the only person who can define what you relationship is and if you are getting what intended in your relationship. The woman i can call useless to me can definitely do wonders for you.
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Its not necessarily all about the age if a person cares for themselves.. I can see kind of about the children part but look at Katy Perry! She had a healthy baby at almost 35 i think and she looks good. Its so double standard because half the older men aren't that good looking. Im not trying to be sexist or anything but people need to face the music here and stop being so picky. An older woman is worthy of love just like a 22 year old like me and such.
You can always point out the 1% who are exempt from these rules. Katy Perry is a beautiful rich celebrity. She has work-out coaches, dieticians, hair & makeup artists, stylists, and the money to afford any clothes, makeup, etc. she wants. Of course she is an exception.
This applies to "normal" people, not the 1% at the top.
I do hope I’m not useless! I’ll be 48 this year lol
My partner is 15yrs younger. He has dated women of all ages.
I guess we clicked, so age wasn’t such a big deal. We don’t look much different in age anyway, so no one notices. (Wouldn’t care if they did).
Also, he doesn’t want children and I’m certainly not having any more, so everyone’s happy.
Lool ugly bastards in their 30s/40s on gag trashtalk 30 years old women although they look like grandma. Not even a fucking grandma want such shallow incels. And guys who try to explain it with fertility are are just trying to find a bullshit excuse for their shallowness. If all young women were infertile and only old women were fertile, these fucktards still go for younger women. So nah. I also personally find men in their early 20s more attractive since many men after 29 loose their hair or getgrey hair /became fatter/ get wringles etc. I also think it is disgusting when men in their 30s or older want 18-21 years old girls since women's brain develope till their middle 20s. This is why i treat any man who is like 30 like shit because they dont deserve better. For me these guys have pedo tendencies. So i think people between 18-24 should date someone around their age.
Also they wonder why women file a divorce when they pressure fucking teenagers aka 18-25 yeaes old to marry. Like wtf you except
I wouldn't go with useless. But women are more fertile younger. By the time a woman hits 35 most of her eggs are gone. By the time she hits 40 something like 97% are gone. So the guys that go after younger women are attracted to that. And contrary to what one of the idiot pinks thinks, its not because they predatory. its literally fertility.
Take me for instance, I was 29 when i met my wife, She was almost 21 at the time. When i met her, there was no intention of marrying because i thought it wouldn't be possible. She was the one that chose to go that route with me, not me, at least not until i had issues with my wisdom teeth that almost killed me, she was the only one that visited me in the hospital, not my family or my friends. Women that think that an age gap like mine somehow is predatory are just straight up stupid and cannot back their statements with fact.
How is 21 and 29 predatory?
@tiptoe98 the user LíttleMíss_Curíous would disagree with that. I've been called a pedophile because my wife is 9 years younger than me.
What the... ignore them, if it worked for you then your all good different people have age limits on dating but predatory is a bit of stretch its not like your double or triple her age
@tiptoe98 Yeah thats just creepy, I dont want to be someones dad lol, i mean i do but i dont want to be with someone where i would be old enough to be her dad or her grandfather.. eww.
Haha same people with partners older than their parents or could give birth to them creep me out tbf
@tiptoe98 yeah eww
Not to me! Of course, I tend to assume at that age one is divorced and has a child or two. Women over 35 are not desirable to men who want families.
Men and women who are both a little older and wiser can be good companionship to one another, when things like family and passing the seed isn't the priority.
So, if a woman has focused on her career and made something of herself and then decides she wants to be a wife and have a family at 35, she's in trouble. If she's 35 has children, never been married and now wants to start a 'real' family, she's in even deeper doo doo. But if she is content to just have a partner to share life with, she should be ok.
So it really depends on what women want, not what men want.
Men who think this are idiots.
While it's true that fertility is something to start thinking about at that age with menopause inching closer, it doesn't mean it's over if you want babies. I mean, my mom had me when she was in her late 30s. She didn't want a kid until she was settled in her career.
That's a bunch of b. s. from shallow dumb dudes. Yeah it's true that men generally prefer younger women and women tend to prefer older men. That's just a statistic though. I and many others would be thrilled if an attractive older women took an intrest in me. It's not true women are desirable at all ages it just depends on who you ask.
Just to clearify I find women over 30 attractive often though I like women of all ages. I like stretch marks and wrinkles sometimes too it doesn't bother me.
No, they're not useless.
And you're not undesirable if you're 35. You're only undesirable if you've been spending the years of the ages 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, and 34 ... being a slut. You can't do that and then expect a good man to want to marry you.
I swear to you anynmous, whoever you are.
There is a lady at work I know. I am 27, I reckon she's something like 35 can't be less. But I have massive crush on her. Secretly. She has a cute baby face, and a smile that is wow. And she's quite and polite. And I am very sure many guys my age can relate to similar stuff. So from this sense I would honestly say no, not useless at all if it were up to us. But totally it is not up to us. Many times we choose partners based on social shit.
No, they are not. WOmen above the age of 35 are still valueable and beautiful. In fact, older women are more attractive than younger women. Women think "the younger I am, the prettier I am", but that's not true.
Attractiveness is ont only based on looks, but also you rpersonality, attitude and life experience.
As a woman and one who just turned 30 I'm no longer thinking of myself as meeting any man without baggage. Being from the black community and dark skinned. My chances of finding love might be incredibly slim the older I get.
But that's if I listen to all this racist crap.. It is what it is. If it's on the cards to find love then I will.
I just hope that whoever I meet, he's ready to settle down and mature enough to understand what it involves being in a long term relationship.
Could have been worded better cause its obviously going to trigger all the feminists, i think what you meant to ask was, are women over 35 less attractive to men. In many ways yes, they are less likely to conceive, their looks have faded, and studies show single unmarried women 30+ have lower levels of happiness than married ones with families.
Useless? No, not at all.
Less attractive and desirable? Definitely.
Although most of them do not recognize it at the time, and typically take it for granted, women own the dating game when they are in their teens and twenties. They hold all the cards during that time in their lives. Beginning around age 30, the tables turn and the advantage shifts to men, and that continues for the remainder of men's and women's lives.
Wise women should take advantage of their 20 and find a good mate to spend their lives with, because later in life they do not have near the chances of success. Unfortunately, women today are given a very different message.
I doubt any man would turn down Jessica Biel and she's over 35. She looks really young to say she's almost 40. She pulled off playing early 20s well in the Sinner.
Hell I doubt many would turn down Salma Hayek and she's 54 but still looks amazing.
It's all about how you carry your age. I've seen some 20 somethings look older than their mother.
Id rather be with any young fit girl than the 39 year old botox queen you mentioned.
@Vetis preach it bro!
Well of course celebrities will still look attractive. They have the money to stay good looking with surgery and such. They are an exception not the standard
@Still-alive 100% correct. Gotta love how they think celebrities (who often go under the knife) represent the average woman. This is obvious wishful thinking and damage control on their end.
I know women over 35 irl who look 10-15 years younger than what they actually are.
How many?
5... one of my friends is 36 but looks 26. This woman at my job is late 40s but looks late 20s. My best friend's girl just turned 35 but looks like she's in her mid 20s. One of my mom's friends looks early 30s but is late 40s. My mom looks late 30s and she's in her mid 50s. Oh bonus one of my professors was late 30s but she looked late 20s. The average woman over 35 doesn't look their age at all. They usually look 5 to 10 years younger (w/o makeup). So no I don't think women over 35 are useless if we're talking about dating. And yes women are usually the most attractive in their late teens/early 20s but there are some who get better with age. Some who don't blossom until 30.
5 people doesn’t make the average woman. I don’t think they are useless but you’re just kidding yourself if you think most woman over 35 aren’t losing their looks badly unless they are rich or otherwise well off.
If you eat right, workout, moisturize your skin often, drink lots of water, don't smoke or drink and don't enter stressful situations often then you can look really young for a long period of time especially if you have good genes. All these women I listed do that (well except for my professor I'm not sure what she does but I know she was vegan and working out).
Just anecdotal evidence. I mean good for those women but unless you produce some empirical data I’m not likely to change my mind here.
They might look 10 years younger than they are. But there are millions of women who actually are 10 years younger than her out there.
Time is the enemy. Go to battle with it, before it kills you.
@Anonymous Like @still-aliveI has said, you're just giving anecdotal evidence. love how people always think that the people they "know" represent the majority of the population or the group we specifically talk about. If it were that simple, then you wouldn't even need to point it out since discussions wouldn't even take place, to begin with. Fact remains, women in their 30s are entering a phase where they are losing their looks and their fertility starts to drop. Doesn't mean they are ugly or infertily, it means they are starting or are about to start. This is why so many women around that age who are still unmarried or at least have no kids are more desperate to settle down compared to that 20 year old who still has a lot of time.
There are many millions of married men who have no intention of trading in their over 35 year old wives. The happen to love their wives, and find them useful for many things. Including having a loving relationship with.
Depends on your point of view. To some of us, 35 is in the hot young chick range. But even when I was 20, over 35 was not over the hill. Some women have not even reached their prime by that age.
35 is a bit too young for me. Again, it depends on your point of view. I have two neighbor women in their 60s who are engaged. I'm sure their fiances don't think they are useless. Nor do I.
All girls are hot girls that are younger are some times more mature. But women in there 30 and 40s even 50s they are in there prime it really just depend on how active and motivated in life they are so to be honest there are to 25 year old girls I would pick over older women. But at the same time there are older women I would pick over younger women it's really who you are. As a person
No women aren´t useless because nobody is useless. It depends for what. Younger women are sexually more attractive so guys are talking about them more online. Older women are more settled down and reasonable.
Don´t judge by what you read online, because most times we guys think less about write down.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
Like i said, depends upon oneself. You opinion is based on sex and looks, but others that can't be the case.
Those guys are overstating things and making a broad assumption. While the language is harsh, the point they're making is that women have a peak high value with looks and career making them highly desirable to men from 20-30. Then typically the looks "may" start to go even though they have a great career and so their value in the eyes of some men diminishes. Not all women have this happen to them so you could look around and draw a different conclusion.
No of your with a company long enough or get higher oay when you move- yoh are not at your peak salary as a woman by 30. Also since you think women are less valuable after 30 I think you’re inadequate. You’re 50? Yeah you really should be 25 again. Otherwise, you are inadequate. Don’t dis older women. They are lovely, too. Most guys over 45 are inadequate looks wise as apposed to a 23 year old guy. Young guys like that can get it up much better too. Much harder too. Yohh in want me to keep going?
Woah, slow down there. I’m just telling you what they’re saying - I didn’t say it. Read first before making assumptions.
In fact, most guys over 35 are too.
R E A D what I said.
Another wack job feminist flying around on her broom.
Big no. Besides life begins at 40, this includes women. A person is never useless, even in death you get some credits. Never heard of people saying, why can't you be like the way your brother or sister was?
You are the only person who can define what you relationship is and if you are getting what intended in your relationship. The woman i can call useless to me can definitely do wonders for you.