I belive the only mistake here was that he paid in full then got butthurt and asked for half the check.
Personally I would never go back on paying the check but at I wouldn't jump to pay it too early. I'd ask the question about another date long before we get the check and if it seems like it's not gonna happen most girls (in fact all I've been in this situation with) would offer to pay for their half but assuming they don't I'd still just take the bill and see how much my meal cost which should tell her that it's time to pay for her share.
That being said, I have a specific type in women, that's the strong independant type. Those women would actually fight over who pays the check and while I wouldn't let them pay all of it on a date and eventually agree to have it split or use it as a tactic, where if she pays for food I'll get us some desert and so the date might extend as we go to grab desert on me.
Either way girls with double standards who want to be a princess when convenient and ask for equal rights when convenient as well are notnmy type and I wouldn't even go on a lunch or dinner date with them.
Unfortunately, women do this kind of stuff all the time to get a free meal, but usually, they are smart enough to ghost the guy AFTER the date he has paid for. Ghosting him during the date can lead to a demand for them to pay their fair share, and women know this.
The rest of the guys who butted in are simply white knights, looking to ingratiate themselves with the girl and hoping for a phone number or more. They all take her side and some offer to help her which is not done because they are nice people.
I usually stay away from this question, because I think people make such a big deal out of that when there's more than one simple solution to this problem...
*Go by the who asks, pays
*Agree ahead of time to go Dutch
*Don't have a first date at a restaurant where you dropping $80+ - have first meet that's a cup of coffee or a walk in the park or a picnic-and save the fancy dinner date for if you both feel the connection...
But, a dinner date shouldn't come with expectation that there will be a connection on either part or expectation of sex... When you go on a date with too many expectations, maybe that's what's killing the date, the connection 🤷🏼♀️
I agree 100%.
However in this circumstance that's already created we should focus on this lol. Plus this is more of a stump on men. I don't care either way as long as both parties agree. However don't you think men in this situation are being hypocrites? Like you can't claim expecting women do Dutch and then say to her that the man should pay? See what I mean? Did you watch the video its funny.
But not all men do say that
I went on a few dates years back a couple years after my hubby died and not once did the man expect or ask me to split the bill and I wasn't running around trying to get free meals from men either
Probably! Cuz people these days don't get it lololol 🤷🏼♀️
It wouldn't be, people make it harder than it needs to be
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@blondfrog @Brainsbeforebeauty offered a reasonable solution, for just about every case.
Then you keep arguing your irrational point?
Do you just want to RANK and COMPLAIN, or do you want a solution, WHICH WAS OFFERED?
Sounds like you just want to bitch, and complain and hate on men!
While I think it’s a very nice gesture if he pays, I actually prefer to go dutch in the beginning. Because in the early stages you don’t know the person, you don’t know what they’re looking for or their motives or if you’re even compatible. If not, going dutch is best because then the guy doesn’t have to feel obligated to buy me dinner if he has no intention of seeing me again, and I don’t have to feel guilty about not wanting to see him again if I let him pay for my meal. I’m very capable of paying my own way and I’m fine with doing so.
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In regards to dating I take a traditional approach personally if I take someone out whether it's a potential partner, my current partner a friend or a family member whoever I will always pay if I asked you out or am taking you out.
Now if they asked me out or are taking me out, regardless of who it is then I'm fine with us splitting it or them paying, whatever they want to do.
I dont understand why women take offense of it. Just pay and if you feel butt hurt just don't see him again. Why making a fuss
I'd always offer to pay my half
well flirting your way up in the entertainment and business world is something men and women do. Handsome men get away with a lot of things too.
We live in a bias world and we can complain about it all we want. The fact is good looks gives you easier path sometimes in life. Anyways, I personally don't date for meals and don't flirt to get promoted. So as far as I'm concerned I try to do the right thing. And some men take offense of a woman paying so I won't fight you to pay. I'll offer and I'd pay and go on with my life.
@blondfrog Did you really go and draw a sketch 😂
Sorry I thought if women did not make a fuss other men won't interfere
But to just give you peace of mind.. I have said this many times before men on GaG complain about things men on the real world seem unbothered by them. like dating women who don't work and be providers, opening doors, dating independent women, dating moms, paying for dates. Some men have a big issue if a woman is paying for everything or make significantly more money.
And I've said it in many posts there are many men especially fathers and brothers who tell women not to trust other men, be careful, and that he should be the provider and not her.
And you know what? it is absolutely fine because there is no Head Quarter for all the men to meet and agree on things. Even being a real man means different things to different societies.
You don't need the whole world to agree with you. You just need one partner and few friends to be compatible with. So yes, I think it is normal for other men who do believe in being broviders to try and interfere and tell her the guy is wrong for asking to split. It is a cultural thing. Dutch people don't have that for example. In my culture I guarantee you it is offensive for a woman to split the bill lol.
Yes I did lol. I'll take partial blame for this cause I think the video I sent confused people. I am okay with all of those split the bill or the man paying. Honestly neither bother me. I just don't like how some men will say one thing but then do the other. There are also guys who stick to their guns like that older guy in the yellow shirt with the glasses. If you believe something you shouldn't then go and do the other and be a hypocrite. Like a man saying the bill should be split but then when he sees it he changes his mind and says the man should pay for the whole meal. It's like how men say they don't like a slutty woman but his actions say the opposite lol.
I totally agree with you. Men and women should stay truth to themselves and others.
But sometimes it does not happen like that. I think it is simply not the same man in many cases. Like the guy telling her to leave while her date was in the toilet (bad advice) perhaps he doesn't believe women should split the bill. I think some people are hypocrite as you stated but sometimes it is the fact we don't all have the same beliefs.
Pretty sure those are different men complaining about "equal rights for dating" (whatever the fuck THAT means) and saying that the dude should pick up the bill.
Also, a hot blonde with tits like that has a lot of dating options. A LOT of options. Not surprisingly, the a guy is going to want to do whatever he can to tip the odds in his favor. Most would agree that picking up the tab isn't a huge sacrifice given what's potentially at stake.
Wish we knew who the actress is. Would love to see some more of her work
Yeah--need to see her in something else. I'm sure she'd done other work.
Sadly, it doesn't look like she's done anything that really plays up her sexy.
This is exactly why a first date isn't supposed to be expensive! Go out for coffee or smoothies or froyo.
If the idea is to pay for yourselves, then say so ahead of time. Don't ask; make the declaration as a statement of fact.
Personally I don't mind paying for a first date, because it will be something like mentioned above. $10-20 max total for me and her.
i've been on a date where it was made clear that she didn't want a relationship at this time. so we fucked anyways and ended up friends
@blondfrog is a good artist.
@Jamie05rhs Yes that was me drawing that lol.
very very nice!!
I don't know i think first dates should be listening to bauhaus or something. But yeah offering to pay is cool.
Yes I agree it should never be something so expensive unless they were long term friends prior or something. Obviously this could have been avoided with a premutation agreement about their standards. However my point in this situation is towards the men who say oh you should double Dutch but then when they see it side with the woman saying the man should pay.
I like John Kinyonays (sp). this is a good feature
I don't know if I would always have the same reaction to viewing a scene like this. It might depend on which actor was more sympathetic. It would also be important to know if they discussed the bill prior to the date.
well, complaining doesn't mean he took her rights ( men complaining is useless ).
and when the man realizes that complaining won't benefit him he says "fu*k it then she should pay as she wants equal rights".
- better not to complain in the first place XD
Haha! Dude is just trying to get it in.
That's all. He sees the opportunity.
Because they're not equal, that's why. If they actually had "equal rights in dating" then they wouldn't feel obligated to do those things. Choosing to do something different anyway wouldn't unfuck the situation. You conform because it's your best shot at good outcomes in spite of the disadvantage.
Update. Obviously not all men are on the same page.
Don't generalize, a lot of women are happy to pay the bill or at least going dutch so they don't feel indebted or pressured. I myself prefer to pay for my own meal.
This lady was being a drama queen, if she didn't want to meet him again then the least she can do is paying half, but some women still think "gentlemen should pay". And what do you think of men who always refuse when the lady suggests to pay her half? There are still a lot of guys with this kind of mindset.
Oh yes, sorry I read it too fast.
i dont get where this happens. Every date I've ever been on, the girl has offered to pay for her stuff.
@ChefPapiChulo They may offer, but try accepting the offer some time, and watch the shock on her face. Offers to pay by women are insincere and nothing but a shit test.
It matters not. I always pay my own way. Always have.
Is it a proper thing for a man to let his girl pay?
In my book a woman never pays for her food because if i'm in a date it means i'm attracted to the girl and seeking for a serious relationship which will lead to marriage and after marriage she will become a housewife, so that's something she needs to get used to it...
She has an amazing pair of tits. I would be thinking about what I need to say and do to get my hands and mouth on them.
I think this only happens in America. In the UK people split the cheque as standard.
Oh yeah you should stay in America, it’s super boring here. Like, there are practically NO school shootings.
No offence. 😊
I would do whatever the girl wants, if she wants me to pay the bill it wouldn't be an issue if, and if she wants me to split the bill it would be no problem?
Personally, I will split the bill every time until we get actually close and I feel like offering her something because of the feelings I have for her. I don't want to be a glorified ticket for free meals/drinks.
While I think the woman's being a little drama queen, I also think it reflects poorly on him somewhat, that is if he asked her out, he should pay right? Then again, my belief system also goes like "if he's too awkward to initiate, I must !"
I mean they could have discussed this prior to avoid this situation but in this given situation I am not even interested. I think people here missed my point I thought I was clear cause it was in the question. My problem is men saying they want equal pay but then side with the woman saying the man has to pay.
Well I don't like how he was rude. He could just say "two checks please" he doesn't have to be like "YOU OWE ME" thats lame
i don't. i think splitting the bill sould definitely be a thing. her time is not worth more than mine.
I never understood that either. People tend to contradict everything they say.
Bills should never be "split." That's communism.
Separate checks, always.
I should start watching this show again
They always have the best actors
It's simply a play at superiority. All they're saying is "I'm better than you". This makes up about 95% of human interaction.
Possibly because most men still make significantly more money, that women make.
Also the "average" is heavily tilted by the rich 1% of the world.
That 1% alone makes so much more money than all women combined that it may seem like "men" make more but an average makes makes as much as an average woman for the same job position.
Plus you have an older generation of housewives who never worked a day in their life tilting the scale in favor men as well but a young woman is more likely to be working and making money now
In a love date, the man pays...
That's how it works for me!
Maybe someone should open a restaurant where the checks are always separate. I'm sure it would be a very popular place.
@msc545 Some would and some wouldn't. If she won't go with you, she's doing you a favor and saving you time.
@msc545
This is kind of off topic, but I once went with about 19 coworkers to a restaurant. We called ahead and made a reservation, because we knew it wouldn't be easy accommodating 20 people. When we got there, they had pulled a lot of small tables together to make a table for 20. We told the waitress that we all wanted separate checks, but she said she wouldn't do that, because we were all in a group.
We knew it would be a nightmare trying to figure out how to pay the bill and divide it up. We all worked at the same country club, and we were used to giving great service. The customer is always right.
So we just decided to dismantle our group. We pulled all the tables apart and made about a 6 inch gap between them. We weren't trying to be a pain in the ass, but guess what? She suddenly was able to figure out how to separate the checks.
@msc545
She had to work a little harder, but she got 20 nice tips.
@Jamie05rhs
She was just trying to make her life easier, by making the cusomers' lives harder.
I know. It's not right.
A man should pay for the woman that's a golden rule , women get turned on when men provide for them , and if she is only using you for food then you have chosen the wrong woman lol
Because those men are pussies. Next question.
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