The women / girls I've met like that are rude, dismissive, opinionated and want their own way, constantly talking down to Men and blaming us for everything that is wrong with the world today.
Independence yes, sexism NO. Talk of past injustice of women not getting a vote yes, trying to flip the situation and act as sexiest to men as the men of the past did to them NO.
That's a lie and a terrible way to have an outlook on things cause men and women need each other.. That's how we survived this long.. Plus, in different ways even independent women needs a man in some way.. Like moving heavy furniture for example. A lot of these women are probably the types who secretly desire being dominated by a man.. LOL.. Not all but a lot..
I don’t have an opinion one way or the other. To me she’s simply a human being that I may or may not know. If she says she doesn’t need a man then that’s her own life and choices, and that should be respected. If for whatever reason she does then that’s what it is as well. It’s not really my place to put opinion in to other peoples lives. Particularly when those opinions are not warranted, nor wanted.
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well technically nobody should "need" somebody else. it is that we WANT and sometimes when people are tired to trying without achieving it they simply decide it's not so much worth it so then they say these type of things that they don't "need" when they never really needed to begin with but felt they did because they WANTED and probably still do WANT but just gets tiring and discouraging when you try and try and nothing gives. I do not think these words are turn ons or turn offs, that's just stupid to me. I see it as people trying to be strong and accept that they don't need what they can't have or just too tired to keep trying and trying to boast. it's like whatever to me but I see it as giving up.
one should always keep trying no matter how many times you fail. If you want something go for it! don't let yourself feel tired and discouraged just because it's hard work to get there.
Yeah ok. She doesn't need a man but she needs child support. She doesn't need a man but she needs alimony. She doesn't need a man but she "can support herself" when she's in front of the divorce court. She doesn't need a man but she needs special laws that elevate her vagina while turning men into second class citizens. She doesn't need a man but she needs half my shit if she got bored with me. She doesn't need a man but I am not a real man if I dont commit and instead just fuck and dump. She doesn't need a man but she needs thousands of men throwing money at her on only fans.
I have zero interest in wasting any of my time with them. And if they say they don't need any man, that's fine with me. I'll find a woman that values men and she and I will get married and have kids. The other one will become a bitter old lady with lots of cats
Foolish. We’re social creatures. I can easily live 90 years alone but what do I have to show? Money? Success? These things mean nothing without someone to share them with. It’s just a shame the women that think this are worth sharing it with.
yes agreed!. But the red headed beauty is apples to oranges to the poster's photo. The red head beauty is a sexual creature by nature as opposed to the other. Like I said, if I was a billionaire, I'd walk right past that girl given by the poster. The type complaining about everything sexual just to drive away with your credit cards and Ferrari
No one NEEDS no one, in my opinion. People come into ur life to share something with u. Rejecting people bc u can’t trust them shows your scars. needing someone is also not good it shows low self esteem.
being open to people... now that’s what’s up and that’s a turn on!
That mindset is similar to someone in a rich country thinking food isn't a big deal. But when these women get to 30+ at some point they realize their whole approach to life was wrong in most cases.
I say give such women what they say that they want: no man. Such women are Feminists, which means that they are toxic and utterly unsuited for any form of heterosexual interaction. Men should tattoo such women with a biohazard symbol, so that all men will know to avoid those women for the rest of their lives. Given them boxed wine, cats and childless wombs.
Just because a woman works to provide for her family doesn’t mean she thinks men are useless. I think it’s great someone can take care of themselves. I mean if you can’t do that, then you can’t take care of anyone else. I don’t like mean spirited women. But I don’t think there is anything wrong with looking out for herself.
I have been told by my own family and friends that I shouldn't open a business because it's a turn off to men. I'm still going to open my business, but I don't want guys to look at me like I'm one of those kind of women.
i think its pretty cool it just means i get a chance to show them what a real guy is like compared to the weak knee pretty boys who trash them after a 1 night stand. if she still feels the same its her loss and my chance to say i broke up with a girl who is more shallow than a creek bed HA
Good for her. Hopefully she doesn't say sh*t when she's 43 like Hollywood millionaire Charlize Theron and countless others. If that's not the case and she's happy in her 40s being single (and sexless), then again, good for her.
I’m happy for them, they have no excuse to be lazy. They have to work and do what they can to take care of themselves! I personally don’t care for them because I’m a man, if I’m not needed, then I’m automatically going to be used by them. That is the go too, so as far as that is concerned, I don’t really care to get to know them past that. And if they get past that, they will never get out the friend zone.
you don't need a man, then I don't need you. I'm not going to be treated as decoration or as something readily replaced, especially not from some one who is going to demand a lot more from me then I will of them (as is the nature of relationships).
Usually the ones that I want, as my friends!! She knows what she wants, and she is confident, and won't let stereotypes hold her back!! Strong, confident women are AMAZING!! How do we encourage more, young girls, to find THAT CONFIDENCE?
It's neither a turn on, or a turn off. It's just a way of wanting to live their life. Any woman, or any man, can just decide not to have romantic relationships. A person doesn't have to have romantic relationships to be happy or fulfilled in their life.
The butthurt responses are laughable 😂 Just because we don’t NEED a man doesn’t mean we don’t WANT one. I’m literally confused as to why a man would be mad because we’re not stupid & we can pay our own bills.
When we women ever not self sufficient and stupid.. All throughout history I'm sure women always had some sort of self sufficiency.. Times weren't as lax as they are now though.
So it's like this there are women who don't need men. Ok there also men who dont need women who dont need men. Most men in here are not even butthurt about it but there are just talking about how it turns them off.
Something called preference and same reason why girls also have a preference. There's a difference between gold diggers, girls relying on men and girls needing men. A lot of the times, when a girl say "they don't need men" they actually do but they don't realize it. Still different from being a gold digger and being reliant to men.
... there’s literally no reason for a woman to be reliant on a man for anything. Literally none. I’m serious. The minute I become reliant on a man is the minute he starts cheating on me & abusing me (just because he can). Gotta keep an escape route.
There's no reason for a woman to be reliant but there's still a reason to need men. You're still mistaking reliant and just needing simply. And sure is that your anecdote? That doesn't prove anything. I can easily say "when a woman say they don't need men, they only need their money. Based on experience"
You're forgetting something. Were all social creatures. You're just letting this modern era go to your head that's why you feel like you don't need anyone because technology is a thing. But really tho, you're gonna need a repair man, a farmer, a doctor, an electrician or any of those people keeping us alive if you're truly isolated. It doesn't matter if it's a male or a female. That's what im talking about, you don't realize but you've been needing men all a long. The thing is most workers from those field are men. I know there are also women working in those fields. But really tho, if you're toilet broke and you're calling for a plumber, you're not gonna let him do it because he's a male because you don't need a man also because female plumbers exist (rarely but they still do)? Sure you don't realize how "i don't need anyone" sound. "No Man Is An Island"
What if your boyfriend is capable of fixing your car? Oh that's right, you don't need men so you're just gonna hire a repair woman or just do it yourself despite your boyfriend has time to do it.
The men here associate the "I don't need a man" with bitch and narcissistic behaviour. Not with independance. Don't worry, most men do like that independance, but since they hear that sentence and imagine a clossal bitch they all vote "B" here.
Except needing anyone doesn't necessarily mean dependent. People had still be needing each other despite how independent they are. wikidiff.com/.../dependent Poor choices of words is just one i'm pointing out
@Aiko_E_Lara And I am talking about when you said this: "Most men in here are not even butthurt about it but there are just talking about how it turns them off." If I don't speak for most men, neither do you.
@Aiko_E_Lara when we say “need” we’re talking about life or death. No woman is going to drop dead, go broke, or any other miserable thing just because she doesn’t have a man in her life. Therefore, it’s a want.
@Aiko_E_Lara so we establish that you don't seak for all of them either. Good. Now if you read most of guys answers here, their "reason" you speak off is exactly because they imagine her to be a bitch.
It would be more accurate to say that what you're talking about is "needing a relationship" not needing a man. Because i do agree people don't need relationship but people need people. You also need a good luck understanding this
@ThisIsMyOpinion And i also see most men here don't even talk about women being a bitch but it's just a turn off. That's basically what women also think of men not needing women and they think of them as in cells so yes let's just all speak for everyone then if it's ok.
Just like the owner is having her own interpretation.
Anyways, i can talk about my objective view. Is it that hard to say relationship instead of saying men? Sure that's what mgtow also do they don't need women but look how many backlash they get and sure you are pretty normal about the backlash they get.
Most women who think like this a constantly dating, all up in male spaces, constantly talking about sex/dating/relationships and can't go two seconds without being validated. I don't date broken women. I'll have sex with them, yes - but will NOT date.
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The women / girls I've met like that are rude, dismissive, opinionated and want their own way, constantly talking down to Men and blaming us for everything that is wrong with the world today.
Independence yes, sexism NO. Talk of past injustice of women not getting a vote yes, trying to flip the situation and act as sexiest to men as the men of the past did to them NO.
That's a lie and a terrible way to have an outlook on things cause men and women need each other.. That's how we survived this long.. Plus, in different ways even independent women needs a man in some way.. Like moving heavy furniture for example. A lot of these women are probably the types who secretly desire being dominated by a man.. LOL.. Not all but a lot..
This is the feeling I get.
I don’t have an opinion one way or the other. To me she’s simply a human being that I may or may not know. If she says she doesn’t need a man then that’s her own life and choices, and that should be respected. If for whatever reason she does then that’s what it is as well. It’s not really my place to put opinion in to other peoples lives. Particularly when those opinions are not warranted, nor wanted.
well technically nobody should "need" somebody else. it is that we WANT and sometimes when people are tired to trying without achieving it they simply decide it's not so much worth it so then they say these type of things that they don't "need" when they never really needed to begin with but felt they did because they WANTED and probably still do WANT but just gets tiring and discouraging when you try and try and nothing gives.
I do not think these words are turn ons or turn offs, that's just stupid to me. I see it as people trying to be strong and accept that they don't need what they can't have or just too tired to keep trying and trying to boast. it's like whatever to me but I see it as giving up.
one should always keep trying no matter how many times you fail. If you want something go for it! don't let yourself feel tired and discouraged just because it's hard work to get there.
Yeah ok. She doesn't need a man but she needs child support. She doesn't need a man but she needs alimony. She doesn't need a man but she "can support herself" when she's in front of the divorce court. She doesn't need a man but she needs special laws that elevate her vagina while turning men into second class citizens. She doesn't need a man but she needs half my shit if she got bored with me. She doesn't need a man but I am not a real man if I dont commit and instead just fuck and dump. She doesn't need a man but she needs thousands of men throwing money at her on only fans.
I have zero interest in wasting any of my time with them. And if they say they don't need any man, that's fine with me. I'll find a woman that values men and she and I will get married and have kids. The other one will become a bitter old lady with lots of cats
Foolish. We’re social creatures. I can easily live 90 years alone but what do I have to show? Money? Success? These things mean nothing without someone to share them with. It’s just a shame the women that think this are worth sharing it with.
A challenge.
I love independence, confidence, fiery, feisty and a devil may care attitude.
Sort of a track record there.
red hair though..
yes agreed!. But the red headed beauty is apples to oranges to the poster's photo. The red head beauty is a sexual creature by nature as opposed to the other. Like I said, if I was a billionaire, I'd walk right past that girl given by the poster. The type complaining about everything sexual just to drive away with your credit cards and Ferrari
No one NEEDS no one, in my opinion. People come into ur life to share something with u. Rejecting people bc u can’t trust them shows your scars. needing someone is also not good it shows low self esteem.
being open to people... now that’s what’s up and that’s a turn on!
That mindset is similar to someone in a rich country thinking food isn't a big deal. But when these women get to 30+ at some point they realize their whole approach to life was wrong in most cases.
I say give such women what they say that they want: no man.
Such women are Feminists, which means that they are toxic and utterly unsuited for any form of heterosexual interaction.
Men should tattoo such women with a biohazard symbol, so that all men will know to avoid those women for the rest of their lives.
Given them boxed wine, cats and childless wombs.
Just because a woman works to provide for her family doesn’t mean she thinks men are useless. I think it’s great someone can take care of themselves. I mean if you can’t do that, then you can’t take care of anyone else. I don’t like mean spirited women. But I don’t think there is anything wrong with looking out for herself.
I have been told by my own family and friends that I shouldn't open a business because it's a turn off to men. I'm still going to open my business, but I don't want guys to look at me like I'm one of those kind of women.
i think its pretty cool it just means i get a chance to show them what a real guy is like
compared to the weak knee pretty boys who trash them after a 1 night stand.
if she still feels the same its her loss and my chance to say i broke up with a girl who is more shallow than a creek bed HA
Good for her. Hopefully she doesn't say sh*t when she's 43 like Hollywood millionaire Charlize Theron and countless others. If that's not the case and she's happy in her 40s being single (and sexless), then again, good for her.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/charlize-theron-single-shockingly_n_5ca61ad7e4b0409b0ec506e3
I’m happy for them, they have no excuse to be lazy. They have to work and do what they can to take care of themselves! I personally don’t care for them because I’m a man, if I’m not needed, then I’m automatically going to be used by them. That is the go too, so as far as that is concerned, I don’t really care to get to know them past that. And if they get past that, they will never get out the friend zone.
you don't need a man, then I don't need you. I'm not going to be treated as decoration or as something readily replaced, especially not from some one who is going to demand a lot more from me then I will of them (as is the nature of relationships).
Usually the ones that I want, as my friends!! She knows what she wants, and she is confident, and won't let stereotypes hold her back!!
Strong, confident women are AMAZING!! How do we encourage more, young girls, to find THAT CONFIDENCE?
It's neither a turn on, or a turn off. It's just a way of wanting to live their life. Any woman, or any man, can just decide not to have romantic relationships. A person doesn't have to have romantic relationships to be happy or fulfilled in their life.
The butthurt responses are laughable 😂 Just because we don’t NEED a man doesn’t mean we don’t WANT one. I’m literally confused as to why a man would be mad because we’re not stupid & we can pay our own bills.
When we women ever not self sufficient and stupid.. All throughout history I'm sure women always had some sort of self sufficiency.. Times weren't as lax as they are now though.
were**..
So it's like this there are women who don't need men. Ok there also men who dont need women who dont need men. Most men in here are not even butthurt about it but there are just talking about how it turns them off.
Why is it a turn off? I’m lost because I could’ve sworn men got turned off by gold diggers & now y’all are turned off by the opposite.
Something called preference and same reason why girls also have a preference. There's a difference between gold diggers, girls relying on men and girls needing men. A lot of the times, when a girl say "they don't need men" they actually do but they don't realize it. Still different from being a gold digger and being reliant to men.
... there’s literally no reason for a woman to be reliant on a man for anything. Literally none. I’m serious. The minute I become reliant on a man is the minute he starts cheating on me & abusing me (just because he can). Gotta keep an escape route.
There's no reason for a woman to be reliant but there's still a reason to need men. You're still mistaking reliant and just needing simply. And sure is that your anecdote? That doesn't prove anything. I can easily say "when a woman say they don't need men, they only need their money. Based on experience"
... there’s no reason for a woman to need a man (except if she wants biological children, I’ll give you that).
You're forgetting something. Were all social creatures. You're just letting this modern era go to your head that's why you feel like you don't need anyone because technology is a thing. But really tho, you're gonna need a repair man, a farmer, a doctor, an electrician or any of those people keeping us alive if you're truly isolated. It doesn't matter if it's a male or a female. That's what im talking about, you don't realize but you've been needing men all a long. The thing is most workers from those field are men. I know there are also women working in those fields. But really tho, if you're toilet broke and you're calling for a plumber, you're not gonna let him do it because he's a male because you don't need a man also because female plumbers exist (rarely but they still do)? Sure you don't realize how "i don't need anyone" sound. "No Man Is An Island"
What if your boyfriend is capable of fixing your car? Oh that's right, you don't need men so you're just gonna hire a repair woman or just do it yourself despite your boyfriend has time to do it.
@ilovejuice Can you say that louder so that the people in the back can hear you?
The men here associate the "I don't need a man" with bitch and narcissistic behaviour. Not with independance. Don't worry, most men do like that independance, but since they hear that sentence and imagine a clossal bitch they all vote "B" here.
Except needing anyone doesn't necessarily mean dependent. People had still be needing each other despite how independent they are. wikidiff.com/.../dependent Poor choices of words is just one i'm pointing out
@ThisIsMyOpinion by the way you can speak for yourself.
@Aiko_E_Lara So can you.
I'm talking about your reasoning on why men voted B
Also, sure i can speak for myself and everybody here is picking for themselves. Also the poll is speaking for themselves
@Aiko_E_Lara And I am talking about when you said this: "Most men in here are not even butthurt about it but there are just talking about how it turns them off."
If I don't speak for most men, neither do you.
@Aiko_E_Lara when we say “need” we’re talking about life or death. No woman is going to drop dead, go broke, or any other miserable thing just because she doesn’t have a man in her life. Therefore, it’s a want.
Since you want to argue about semantics. 🤷🏻♀️
If i'm counting out how many men here swearing and trash talking about women vs just giving a reason, majority of them don't imagine a colossal bitch.
@ilovejuice good luck getting him to understand that!
@Aiko_E_Lara so we establish that you don't seak for all of them either. Good.
Now if you read most of guys answers here, their "reason" you speak off is exactly because they imagine her to be a bitch.
It would be more accurate to say that what you're talking about is "needing a relationship" not needing a man. Because i do agree people don't need relationship but people need people. You also need a good luck understanding this
@ThisIsMyOpinion And i also see most men here don't even talk about women being a bitch but it's just a turn off. That's basically what women also think of men not needing women and they think of them as in cells so yes let's just all speak for everyone then if it's ok.
If you're wondering why i'm also speaking for other men, it's for the same reason that the opinion owner is also speaking for men here.
@Aiko_E_Lara try to actually read what they are saying then.
I did also you have your own interpretation of it
@Aiko_E_Lara we both do.
Just like the owner is having her own interpretation.
Anyways, i can talk about my objective view. Is it that hard to say relationship instead of saying men? Sure that's what mgtow also do they don't need women but look how many backlash they get and sure you are pretty normal about the backlash they get.
@Aiko_E_Lara Sure you can talk about your view.
Most women who think like this a constantly dating, all up in male spaces, constantly talking about sex/dating/relationships and can't go two seconds without being validated. I don't date broken women. I'll have sex with them, yes - but will NOT date.