Are men just cheap if they don't like materialistic women?

[aliali8]

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[Solo22]

That is the traditional viewpoint and many people still want traditional marriage. A man is the head of the household. He is the provider, protector and is to love his wife and be soft on her. A woman is to submit to her husband's authority, respect him, bear his children and to be the stay home mother, and both are to maintain fidelity (no cheating). Problem is people want to cherry pick their partner's gender roles and cherry pick the best of both worlds. You either want traditional, or you want modern. You have to go all the way or not at all.

Proverbs 5:19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.

Ephesians 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

1 Corinthians 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

1 Corinthians 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

[AzzaBlue]

I am a 36 yo male and I have listened to/ observed a lot of conversations regarding male and female role dynamics (in particular dating). I am convinced that many women who claim they are "traditional" are just entitled parasites who want to absolve themselves of adult responsibility and to extract free money/ meals/ resources from men. It make sense if you think about it. There are many conversations on GaG relating to "Who makes the first move," and not surprisingly most women want the man to take the initiative. Why? Because confessing your feelings/ attraction to a stranger or a friend can be very daunting especially with the risk of rejection and/or humiliation. So women will conveniently say that they are "traditional" to absolve themselves of said stress. In reality women are just cowards, full stop.
Another popular topic on GaG is "Who pays for the first date." Again not surprisingly most women want the man to pay and they'll come up with all sorts of nonsensical reasons including "tradition" to avoid acting like an adult and paying their own way. In these scenarios, these women are just cheap arse entitled skanks.
It's like you said, they either want modern (equality) or traditional. Unfortunately many women are greedy and wanted it to go both ways when it's convenient for them. And a good number of men are simps who refuse to call women out on their BS because they crave female validation to justify their pathetic existence.

[Solo22]

@AzzaBlue To be fair everyone has their double standards. When laws were changed to allow no-fault divorce, it made marriage a pointless decision and a high risk contract with no behavioral considerations being factored in. I think both parties need to be held accountable, which would also guard against deception or dishonesty expressed from either party. If a spouse cheats, that should forfeit any alimony, assets, or debt division that would financially benefit them, (yet not depriving them of what was truly theirs.) If a woman cheats and has a baby from another man, the husband should not have to pay for that child period. Frankly, I think people are better off dating or cohabiting and not marrying.

[aliali8]

@AzzaBlue Yet, overwhelming majority of men only like marrying housewives and shun feminists. Yea, right speaking of your double standard.

[aliali8]

@solo22 assets in divorce are skewed in womens favor because women are likely the ones doing all the child rearing. In a divorce, it is almost always the mother caring for the kids as a single mom. This is why courts give more to women than men. Everything happens for a reason

[Solo22]

@aliali8 If the couple has joint children, then yes. If they are childless, or she has children from a prior man then it shouldn't be his expense or loss. That is also assuming she was a responsible parent in the first place.

[AzzaBlue]

I don't speak nor do I represent other men, so no double standard here. I only want a "partner" whose is a grown arse adult woman, who also isn't a freeloader.

[aliali8]

@AzzaBlue Its because you know you can't afford to have a partner to free load off of you. You can't even afford to have kids free loading off of you.

[aliali8]

@solo22 Another thing you have to realize is that historically men have a much higher pattern of abandoning their wife and kids compared to women abandoning their husband and kids. And I think the law was created in order to prevent men from abandoning their families. Men are usually the less responsible parent , focused more on career. While women are usually the ones working full time jobs, and doing all the household chores, teaching her kids how to read.

[AzzaBlue]

Wrong again. I will repeat myself once more. I am far from being poor. I am a man of dignity and self respect and I cannot in good conscious get involved with such women. This whole discussion is pointless as you are clearly not interested in other peoples views. Many people have given you answers that you clearly don't like and all you want to do is defend your very flawed way of thinking.
Your "question" is just you seeking confirmation bias to justify/ validate your way of life. I have given you my answer, and it is very doubtful that you and I are going see eye to eye on this. I'm done talking with you.

[aliali8]

@AzzaBlue I think you're probably just gay. Because most men prefer to date women that make less than them. Most men prefer housewives too. A man who does not feel the need to provide for his wife is either a BETA MALE or gay

[Solo22]

@aliali8 True, it's usually the man who is the bad or absent parent.

[Shy_Steve]

I think they are realistic.

[modelUN242]

It's never the other way around, materialistic men can call women cheap? I'm a cheapskate and not materialistic but I appreciate nice things time to time.

[SavageGirl101]

Defiantlyy

[David_Kek]

I'm noticing a theme here, mostly on this site. The type of women that I would regard as failures in the dating market, are said gold diggers that can't even admit they are gold diggers. Once they start growing old and alone once their youth and looks have run out, instead of facing that they made their mistakes that's cost them in the long run, they just choose to blame men for being cheap.

Here's a dose of reality. "Materialistic women", is just the sugar coated way of saying "prostitutes". They decide to cash in their youth, not bothering to settle down with a good man in their long-term that is in their price range, out of sheer stupidity of not considering that the longer they wait, the more their price range goes down.
Whenever I hear a woman that claims that "men are cheap if they don't like materialistic women", all I really hear is "I am a street walker that thinks I'm still a high class escort like I was 10 years ago, and that's why I'm bitter I can't find any good clients".

So to answer your question; no, you've got it backwards, the women who make these claims are the ones who are cheap. No man in his right mind, wealthy or not, will settle for a woman like that with expectations that don't conform to reality. You want a man? Stop acting like a whore that price checks her vagina, and you won't be treated like one.

The best piece of advice I can give, which I can't actually remember where I got it from, but it's done well by me. If you want to know how to not end up a bitter divorced man, don't take advice from the man with 5 ex wives, but rather take advice from the man who's had a happy marriage that's lasted over 60 years.
Well likewise, if you want to know how you can get a good man to settle down with, take advise from the women with long successful marriages, definitely not failures such as the woman in the vid.
Peace.

[aliali8]

hun, its the good looking young women who have a chance with all the handsome rich guys. Poor guys like you only can afford plain looking to less attractive women.

[aliali8]

And the woman in this video is also married. She is a gold digger married to a very rich man

[David_Kek]

dear god, are you the woman in the vid? And that's you at 25? Lord, what happened to you? Did you have your 3nd abortion by age 15 or something? I honestly thought she was in her late 30s.

And this very rich man, is he old enough to be your father, or grand father?

[aliali8]

things poor men say when pretty girls get all the rich guys.

[aliali8]

the lady in the video is 34 and she just married a very rich man

[aliali8]

evolution is prostitution. Women like millionaires. While men love hot girls. You would pick a hot woman over a rich woman , any day. Its the way we are biologically designed.

[David_Kek]

And how many decades older is he?

I'm not disputing evolution and what men and women select for, but if we're going to use such blunt terms and go the Esther Vilar root, ok, I'll put it in terms that will be easier for you to understand.
There are prostitutes such as street walkers that have like 20 clients a day.
There are prostitutes such as brothel workers that have like 10 clients a day.
There are prostitutes such as escorts that have like maybe 5 clients a week.
There are prostitutes such as sugar babes that have like 3 clients a week.
There are prostitutes such as girlfriends that have like 1 to 2 clients a week.
And there are there are prostitutes such as housewives with a single client that they intend to spend the rest of their life with.

On this list, each one is worth more than the last. You and this woman in that video, is somewhere between escort and sugar babe, via taking being a "sugar babe" as a professional career, as opposed to something to pay for your college, that will either be traded back in after about 10 years, or their partner will simply die of old age real quick.
In short, women like you and her, are far, far cheaper than a real house wife. If you look at it in terms of money, this mentality of yours, providing you are attractive enough, will get you more. However, that doesn't factor into account all human needs are not covered by money. That's why I class women like you as being cheaper, for you sell yourself only for cold hard cash, for the price of dying alone. If I could trade my other half in for Billions, I wouldn't, for I'm not nearly that stupid.

[aliali8]

why would it matter how old he is? 40 yr old men on here insist there is no problem with dating an 18 yr old girl, as long as she's hot. So why would you care so much of she is 25 and he is 45?

Women are designed biologically by nature to be gold diggers. Men are biologically designed to be sex diggers. why do you think men hate older women so much on here?

[David_Kek]

you don't appear very intelligent, on the basis you just keep repeating the same thing over and over again, without actually addressing the counter points to said points of yours

And to answer your question, dating younger women for a man isn't a problem for him, it's a benefit; younger, more fertile, less health problems.
For a woman to settle long-term with a man over 2 decades older, may be a good way of being sure he's good quality, showing his success in his lifetime and all that, but it's not much use if he's already lost his best years.
What that means is after 20 years, you'll be a 40 year old woman taking care of an old man in his 60s, that's getting a bit old for being a father, and it's much use in the bedroom.

That's why you're a very stupid woman, because you appear to 100% lack any notion of foresight. Just because a choice you make now is good for you in the present, doesn't mean it's good for you in the long term.

[aliali8]

"And to answer your question, dating younger women for a man isn't a problem for him, it's a benefit; younger, more fertile, less health problems."

you don't seem to be very intelligent either. what makes you think a rich man needs a wife to care for him? a rich man can hire maids, nurses, doctors, provide spa services for his wife, hire brilliant teachers for his children, provide the best food for his wife and kids.

this is why women highly prefer to marry rich men over a poor man.

what makes you think marrying a poor man will make a wife happy? how about struggling to feed your kids good food? how about your wife , not being able to afford anything that she loves? how about over working your wife at her job, then when she comes home, she still has to slave away doing housework all night?

do you women would really prefer this type of life style?

[aliali8]

the only reason why a woman would marry a poor man is because she is probably not an attractive woman and / or there is not enough rich men to go around.

[David_Kek]

As I said in my 3nd response, money is a factor, but it's not everything. Unless you like the idea of dying alone and miserable, having people in your life because of their wallet or their pretty face isn't a good idea.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek I would be dying alone a millionaire due to all the inheritance my husband left me. I can re-marry any man I want cuz I can afford such a luxurious lifestyle. I can have sexy male models when I'm 50

[David_Kek]

1. Yes, you would be an alone millionaire, in which your best case situation is you'll end up like Marilyn Monroe or Madonna, aka, miserable.
2. No, you'll not be able to marry any man you wish. You treating men that way, means you will find no man that will love you, or at very least no man you desire anyway. The only men you will find after that point, are male prostitutes.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek Thats only what an angry poor man would say. Its the richest men who get the most beautiful women. Poor men like you settle for plain janes or ugly women. And now you're jealous

[aliali8]

@David_Kek Just because I marry for money, it doesn't mean I don't like the man that I married. I can pick a rich guy that I like too. So no, it doesn't mean I am miserable. But I like MASCULINE men who can provide for their woman. Only beta males expect their wives to work.

[David_Kek]

You're 25 years old. You have 5, no more than 10 years left that you can still call yourself most beautiful women, assuming you are anyway. In the same way rich men don't need to say they're rich; beautiful women don't need to say they're beautiful either. But, say you are... you won't be for much longer.
With your mentality of selecting for money as the most important "that you like too", why would any of the men you select for select you for any less swallow reasons? Like Trump wife, he'll take you for those good years, then trade you in once you're no longer most beautiful women. After that the only men you'll attract are beta fans of yours that you don't desire anyway, or much younger models/prostitutes that don't love you either and are only there for your money.

If that is what you want out of life, then all the power to you. But don't tell blatant lies and expect people like me to not call you out on them. You don't wanna work? Tough, like is work. The job you desire is that of model and prostitute, then metaphorically worthless no-one with nothing left to offer the world. I'd say the odds of you killing yourself at 36 Marilyn Monroe is pretty high.

[aliali8]

My rich husband is not going to trade me for someone more beautiful because he also appreciates who I am. Just because my husband has HIGH PREFERENCE for beautiful women, it doesn't men he doesn't appreciate his wife for who she is. Rich men have loads of women chasing them, they would have no reason to pick an ugly bitch for a wife. When you have tons of women going for you, he can easily pick a beautiful woman who he loves. Its purely biological. Why do you see 40 yr old men desperately begging for the attention of 25 yr old women? Do you see 40 yr old men dying to date 45 yr old women?

Only a poor man like you would lie and say that you dont prefer young beautiful women over ugly older ones.

[aliali8]

Dumb people like you don't understand that just because a woman prefers rich men, it doesn't mean she doesn't give a fuck about her husband. Just because a rich man likes to date good looking women, it doesn't mean he can't also appreciate her for who she is. Its just that some poor men, like you, are jealous that rich men get to date the best women. So you're looking to stir up some shit on here

[David_Kek]

Oh no, he is definitely going to trade you back in once you've lost your looks, it's biology. Men only desire attractive women, and you're not getting any younger.
And lets face it, there's no telling what kind of ideas 10 years from now or so he'll get when his younger and more attractive secretary blows him a hell of a lot better than you do, to only come home to your greyer, wrinklier, post-child bearing body. Hell, he'd be stupid not to trade you in after that point.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek No he won't. Because a divorce would be too costly for him. Do you realize that even with a pre-nup agreement, a rich husband may still need to pay up to 5-10 million to his gold digger wife upon divorce?

[aliali8]

@David_Kek A poor man is now angry that women don't want to date him. Just a while ago I saw you insisting on dating 18 yr old girls. Now, those 18 yr old girls want to date a rich guy. And you're PISSED. hahah

[David_Kek]

That happens all the time, from Trump to Elon Musk; the super rich men you speak of always trade them back in. Only those thar don't are the ones that didn't marry for money or status to begin with.

Think you're confusing me with someone else.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek take a look at mark zuckerberg, mark cuban, kevin o leary, bill gates, warren buffet, beff bezos. All of them only had 1 wife their entire life time.

[David_Kek]

I believe i did say "Only those that don't are the ones that didn't marry for money or status to begin with.".
Some do marry for love. What you're taking about isn't love, it's a business transaction. Love is staying with someone in sickness and health, and poverty and wealth. You honestly think you'll find a multimillion air that will love you enough to not trade you in after you've lost your youth and health, when you won't love them them to stay with them after they lost their entire fortune? Generally men who are that wealthy, aren't nearly that stupid.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek Um... it IS love. I only date rich men, but I get to pick from a pool of rich men. I don't just close my eyes and randomly date any rich guy. We have to vibe well. We need to enjoy each other's company. We need to appreciate each other.

And plus, there is no incentive for a rich man to divorce his wife. All he ends up with is to lose half of his assets. Or if there is a pre-nup, he will end up needing to pay 5-10 million to his ex wife. And YES, you will need to pay your ex wife even with a pre-nup in place.

[David_Kek]

No it isn't. For you, money comes before love. If you got married to a millionaire, and then he lost every penny he has for whatever reason, you would leave him. For that, you will attract no man who is any less shallow than you.

If you're rich enough, a couple million here and there to trade in the old car won't mean much to you. Prenups are standard for those with more than a K in their account, let alone millionaires.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek And who to say that you aren't shallow too? I recognize you from an interaction a long time ago. You're equally as desperate for 18 yr old girls as I am for a rich man.

And plus, I have nothing to lose squeezing as much out of my man as I can while I am still married to him. And getting 5-10 million from a divorce is not a bad idea either.

But you need to understand this, why would a rich man only marry a woman to divorce her years later? Divorce is costly even for a rich man. Imagine that he marries and divorces 10 different women over his life time. He would end up losing anywhere from 50 million to a 1 billion dollars to just rotating wives every few years. Rich men tend to be very smart people. They take marriage and divorce seriously.

[aliali8]

here's another fact: The more a rich man divorces, the more he will need to pay his wife upon divorce. If he was ordered to give 5 million to his first wife upon divorce. If he marries his second wife then divorces again, he will be ordered to pay more than 5 million. If he remarries to his 3rd wife, then he divorces again. He will even need to pay even more than his second wife

[David_Kek]

@aliali8
I am, that's who. The partner I've decided to settle for, has a percentage chance of being in a wheel chair one day, and i don't care. I trust her, and I'm the best version of myself with her, and vice-versa. She is someone is worth caring for in old age. You on the other hand, based on how you see yourself let lone other men, i don't even want to have sex with you. I don't know if it daddy issues, or what it is, but you are damaged goods, and you can see that from a mile away.
I recognize you from an interaction a long time ago. You're equally as desperate for 18 yr old girls as I am for a rich man.
With your mentality, you will not find any super rich man that will be any less shallow than you. You are genuinely delusional if you think you will.

Getting 5-10 million from a divorce is not a bad idea, if you don't mind dying alone.

Why would a rich man only marry a woman to divorce her years later? Because he can, he's rich bitch. Do you not watch the news? It happens all the time. Why do they? I don't know, maybe they like the status that comes along with it, or they like having legal rights over their children. Whatever the reason, fact is that it does happen, all the time. If they don't marry for love, and it's in their ability/bank account to trade them in for someone better, they will. You are not going to find a millionaire that will put a ring on it for life, end of.

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 "I recognize you from an interaction a long time ago. You're equally as desperate for 18 yr old girls as I am for a rich man."
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I don't recognize you, nor does that sound like something I'd say, so you're probably confusing me with someone else. If i did say something like that, then it will have been in a different context, since that's not what i believe.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek "Why would a rich man only marry a woman to divorce her years later? Because he can, he's rich bitch. Do you not watch the news? It happens all the time. Why do they? I don't know, maybe they like the status that comes along with it, or they like having legal rights over their children."

Celebritites divorce a million times because they lead stressful lives , especially living in front of the media, tv, social media where the entire world is watching them. And also hectic schedules.

But typical rich men, who are less famous, do not divorce nearly as much. But why would he ever marry any of his gold digger wives if he knows that he will only divorce her when her looks fade? her looks WILL fade one day.

why would he marry her, when he can just have her as a girlfriend? why waste 50-200 million marrying / divorcing 10 wives? 50 million is a lot of money to rich men too. He gets poorer and poorer with every wife he divorces.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek You made a bad impression on me along with many others, quite a while ago. Trust me, I believe you are equally just as shallow as gold diggers. Problem is, that you cannot afford a beautiful wife that these men can get which is why you're against it.

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Larry Ellison, Jeff Bezos, Bernard Arnault. Do you want more?

Why do they do it? Why do they buy solid gold toilets? Because they can. Everyone, from working class no ones, from the richest people on the planet, set fire to their money in the stupidest ways possible, just because they can. People burn their money to show off. You know what a Trump wife is? She's not a human being, what she really is is a Bugatti La Voiture Noire, that you can have sex with and give children. But that's not the real reason you'd buy one, the real reason you buy a woman like this, is the exact same reason why you'd buy an $18,000,000 car, because you can, and everyone who is poorer than you can't. That's the real reason, so you can rub in the face of all the other silently less rich men out there and say "fuck you, i can afford to burn way more of my wealth than you can".

Is that clearer? You're not aiming at the role of human being, you're aiming at the role of product.

[David_Kek]

Well, you're wrong about me.

[aliali8]

Jeff Bezos's first wife was not a gold digger. His girlfriend is not a gold digger either. She is 50 and they seem like a very happy couple. For donald trump, his first two wives were NOT gold diggers. His first wife, loved him for who he was. This was why she divorced him upon finding out that he cheated. His second wife fell head over heels for him but eventually the marraige failed because she wanted him to stop being a workaholic.

His 3rd wife is the only gold digger. And surprisingly his marriage with Melania was the longest lasting out of all the marriages he ever had. Melania looks like shit now by the time she hit 50, you don't see him divorcing melania.

[aliali8]

Elon Musk just had a baby with muscian grimes. She is just as famous and rich as he is. She was no gold digger.

You dont even know what you're talking about on here.

Rich people can have failed marriages just like the average poor joe does.

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 I thought you said all women are gold diggers, on the basis of biology and all that.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek All women are gold diggers to varying degrees of extent. All women have a natural biological need to be provided and protected. And you can trust me, that ivanna and marla maples were further encouraged to wed donald trump , due to his wealth. If these women were to date the average joes, they are likely to have broken up or dated wayyyy longer before they heard wedding bells.

All women are gold diggers. But what you don't understand is a man's wealth will always be a sure fire big encouraging factor when it comes down to a woman marrying a man.

Just because she married donald for love, it doesn't mean that she also didn't love his money as well.
Money surely played a huge factor.

The rest of the female population just marry for "love" because there aren't enough rich guys to go around. Just like most of the male population settle for "plain looking janes" because there are not enough melania trump's to go around. Trust me, if men can pick to date melania trump or a below average looking girl / plain jane, they would pick melania

[David_Kek]

You can't say all women are gold diggers, and then claim they married a billionaire because they loved him. No, logic doesn't work like that.

"Trust me, if men can pick to date melania trump or a below average looking girl / plain jane, they would pick melania"
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Well as a man, I think I'm qualified to inform you that you and your beliefs and about men and women work are wrong. Ever see the movie Coming To America? Well that's how I personally see such women as yourself, being completely untrustworthy with just plain ugly attitudes. Give me the solid gold toilet seat money, and I may have a few mistresses, but I'd never put a ring on one. Actually having someone in which everything else doesn't matter, that's the one you put a ring on. You are wrong.

You are a gold digger, a genuine gold digger. You are a shallow whore, and any man with enough intelligence to be super rich, will see it, no matter what pretty innocent face you put on top of it. You are incapable of even knowing what love is. Why would any of them love you?

[aliali8]

"You can't say all women are gold diggers, and then claim they married a billionaire because they loved him. No, logic doesn't work like that."

There is no rule that we must marry for romance. You can marry for sex, money, love, or just to pop out kids. And yes, you can marry for love and also money. You can marry for both, you do not have to pick one.

"Well that's how I personally see such women as yourself, being completely untrustworthy with just plain ugly attitudes."

there's nothing untrustworthy about gold diggers. We all know men love younger women. If its not wrong for a 40 yr old man to highly prefer dating younger women, does it always mean he's a sex digger? A man can lust and love a younger woman too. Its BIOLOGICAL!!! The reason why women prefer rich men is the same reason why men always date younger women.

"You are a gold digger, a genuine gold digger. You are a shallow whore, and any man with enough intelligence to be super rich, will see it, no matter what pretty innocent face you put on top of it. You are incapable of even knowing what love is. Why would any of them love you?"

Just in case that you weren't aware. I saw some really shallow comments coming from you too , a long while ago. You were shaming older women and insisted that its proper for 65 yr old men to be dating 18 yr old girls.

[David_Kek]

If you marry a man for his money, and you'd leave him if he lost his money, then you don't love him. And that is what makes women like you untrustworthy, for you're not an actual person to learn on for support, you are genuinely no more someone you can depend on that a prostitutes taking cold hard cash.

I asked you a question you didn't answer; You are incapable of even knowing what love is. Why would any of them love you? You don't have anything to offer them in old age.

As for your other comments, I've already told you that you've either got me confused with someone else, or you either misunderstand whatever the context of the comments was, for those are not my views when it comes to what to select a partner for.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek there's no requirement that you must marry for love. There is no requirement that marriage lasts forever either. Just take a look at your divorce rates, 46% or almost HALF of all marriages end in divorce. So if you marry for romance , your marriage is likely to be doomed to fail either way. Love is not the secret to a long term successful marriage.

Women will always be more likely to say "yes" to a rich man proposing to them than a poor man proposing. Theer are all sorts of benefits to marrying a rich man. And just because she highly prefers these benefits , it doesn't mean that she can't love her husband. You can appreciate him and also his money. there's no such thing as having to pick one over the other.

A woman would also be less likely to divorce a rich husband because she would have more to lose than divorcing a poor man. She wouldn't only be losing her husband but also her lifestyle and worry free life.

I can pick from a pool of rich men , to go on dates with. I dont have to settle for a rich man that I don't like or that I don't care about. Your delusion that all women who prefer to date rich men do not care for their husbands is just a stereotype that you promote, just so that you can feel better about your inferiority.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek Men love going for younger women. Does this mean that every of these men will divorce their wives once she gets older? NO! You can appreciate a woman's beauty and also her as a person. You can have both. You dont have to pick

[David_Kek]

This is a waste of time, you are genuinely delusional.
On one you admit a woman like you will marry a man for his money, and leave him if his losses it, while convincing yourself you still love him.
And on the other hand, the type of man that will marry a woman like you for your looks, but won't leave you once you losses them, because reasons.
The fact you believe the type of men you'd attract won't be as shallow as you, is genuinely amusing. I don't think this conversation will go much further at this point. Enjoy your life choices, and please, for the sake of humanity, make breeding not one of them.

[aliali8]

I think that you're too butt hurt to realize that women can have both the man that she loves and also money. You were just shitting on older women too , a while ago. So don't come on here and call me shallow.

[David_Kek]

You are shallow. You would only marry a man if he was rich, and you'd leave him if he lost his money. Call that love all you want, you are still a shallow whore, that is a shallow as they come.
But more even more incredibly, you honestly believe the type of men you want to attract won't be as shallow as you, trading you in after you've lost your looks while telling themselves that they still love you as they move you along and move your replacement in.
It's not every day you come across a woman as delusional as you.

[aliali8]

haha its so hilarious how poor men love pretending you're not shallow too. I remember your shallow rants from ages ago. Shitting on older women and insisting on dating 18 yr old girls.

[aliali8]

I guess you finally understand how it feels for an older woman to be shitted on now right?

[David_Kek]

As I've already told you about a half dozen times already, i don't know you, or know what the hell you're talking about.

[aliali8]

Of course you would pretend you don't know what I'm talking about. Who would ever directly say they are shallow? Don't argue against something that is biological

[David_Kek]

lol, that did actually make me laugh. Your only recourse is to accusing me of lying. I'm really sorry to disappoint you, but i genuinely don't remember ever having talked with you before, nor what you are talking about. Sorry.

Oh yes, all men are as equally shallow as you. That's why all men trade their women in once they've lost their looks if they can, just all women will trade their men in once they've lost their money if they can.
By the way, would you like to buy some magic beans off me? They're really good, I promise.

[aliali8]

Its biological. I don't know why you're arguing against it. You're one of the liars who like to say that looks don't matter or that you will marry an ugly girl rather than a pretty girl. Or insist that a woman would pick to date a poor man instead of a rich man

Because you can't handle reality. Biologically we are all supposed to be attracted to beauty and money and status

[David_Kek]

Funny thing is, I haven't been arguing against it for the last few responses, but rather I've been letting you argue against your own position.
All men are as shallow as you? Ok. That means you will be traded back in after you've lost your looks, in the exact same way you would trade a man back in after he lost his wealth.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek haha says the guy who insisted on dating younger women and shitting on older women. You're equally just as shallow as me, you're just butt hurt you're a poor man

[aliali8]

I don't care if he trades me for someone else. My goal is to milk as much money out of him as possible. I would end up with millions even if he divorces me

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 Now was that really so hard to admit?

[aliali8]

@David_Kek Well it still doesn't mean I'm a gold digger. I can appreciate him too. What makes you think I would marry a man who I don't like being around?

[aliali8]

@David_Kek But I won't stay married to a man who cannot provide me a rich lifestyle. Only beta males cannot provide for their wives and families. A rich man only loses more and more money with each extra wife he divorces. I only have millions to gain upon divorce.

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 If you would only choose and stay with a man with money, by definition that does make you a gold digger.
But, if that's the life you wanna live while you still can, then all the power to you.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek Every woman would be a gold digger. there's just not enough millionaires to go around. Ask any woman: would you prefer to date a rich man or a poor man? All of them would say rich.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek I'm gonna ask the same to you: Would you date a hot girl or an ugly girl? You would say hot girl.

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 Depends what you mean by hot. Character is important to me, so if I judge a woman is ugly on the inside, then I really couldn't care how attractive she is on the outside.
With my partner, I wouldn't trade her in if i could when she loses her looks and health, since that wasn't the primary thing I selected her for in the first place.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mating_preferences

Male mate preferences

It is a well-known fact that men assign as far greater salience to the attractiveness of a potential mate when considering their mating preference than women do.[23]

Males show a preference for neotenous or youthful looking features in women, such as; big eyes,[29] a small nose, and full lips.[30] These features act as a signal of fertility as they are caused by high estrogen and low testosterone. As a result of evolution these features are deemed as highly attractive as they would indicate a higher chance of successful reproduction.

Skin condition[26] has been found to be an honest indicator of sex hormones which may indicate levels of fertility. The study directly examines the relationship between an individual having acne and the levels of hormones that could potentially indicate low fertility, therefore guiding attractiveness for mate preference. This skin condition, attractiveness link has been corroborated by research that [27] found that skin colour, skin homogeneity and facial adiposity (how fat is deposited around the face) all predict female attractiveness and therefore, mate preference. Skin tone has also been found to be an honest indicator of youthfulness and fertility;[

[aliali8]

startsat60.com/.../evolutionary-psychology-study-men-prefer-having-sex-with-younger-women

While women are more likely to stick to someone of a similar age or slightly older, men, regardless of their age, prefer sexual partners aged in their twenties.

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 The first cat I ever had was a cream point Siamese cat named "Cuddles".

[aliali8]

poor men can't attract hot beautiful classy women. Once a rich man pay any attention to a pretty lady, trust me she is his.

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 And my second childhood cat was a seal tortie point named "Samantha".

[aliali8]

Are you done throwing your tantrum?

[David_Kek]

I'm sorry, I thought it was my turn to reply with non-sequiturs that you don't give a shit about

[aliali8]

are you mad that you can't afford to buy the most beautiful women? you have to settle for some ugly looking bitches?

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 You mad because you can't accept the answer I gave you 4 responses ago.

[aliali8]

I don't know why you have such hatred against beautiful women who want rich men. How would you feel if I shitted on you because you wanted to date a beautiful woman over an ugly one?

[David_Kek]

@aliali8
I don't have hatred against them, I pity and don't desire them, viewing them as being quite stupid. There's a difference.
How would I feel if you shitted on me over my personal preferences in women? Well, I don't judge my self-worth based on my sexual market value, so I can honestly say I wouldn't care. You do care however, because you don't love yourself. In fact, I'm willing to bet you actually hate yourself, like most whores do.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek ohhh you do have something big against gold diggers. You spent countless days shaming gold diggers on here. Its too bad that you can't accept evolution and biology where women tend to be attracted to the richest, strongest, alpha men. Women are attracted to men who can provide for them.

Biology and evolution is pure science. Its not something you can simply argue against. Your personal feelings were just hurt.

[aliali8]

Same thing as men talking about a woman's "sexual market value" on here. Do you see how many men on here shit on women in their 30s? Nobody on here has anything positive to say about women in their 30s. Do you see men on here raving about older women?

Like I said, men value looks while women value money.

[David_Kek]

@aliali8
I've got a theory, and you can tell me if I'm right or not.
You got sexual attention very young, say about 16 or 17, from older men that treated you like a princess. And you liked it, you like men much higher status than yourself competing over your attention, and you like the financial gain and life experience learning from them. I'm guessing you could have settled down with one, yet choose not to, on the basis you were still young, and waiting for a guy that was just the little more special.
Skip forward 10 years, that attention you used to get, is even lower quality that it used to be, which is to say your idea of waiting for someone better, backfired. And now you're in a position of demanding a top quality guy, on the basis you believe you deserve one, despite the fact your own life accomplishment was merely passively existing and having a pretty face. You're demanding one and demanding you can get one, while arguing with random men on the internet, baiting them into arguments calling them cheap for simply not liking you.
Sound about right?

[aliali8]

@David_Kek 10 years ago, I was 14/15 yr old kid with no interest in "dating" at all. So no, your made up tales about how I'm sad right now doesn't make sense. I'm still young and highly desired in my prime. Beautiful women will always be desired regardless of their age. The lady in the video is beautiful and she just married a high status, rich banker at the age of 34.

Men look for beauty. Women look for money.

Its just how society rolls. No point in arguing against it.

[aliali8]

@David_Kek Men do not care about a woman's life accomplishments. They only care if a woman is attractive enough to have sex with. Men are driven by sex. Ask around any guy and they will tell you sex is a major part of their lives. This is why it is important for a woman to look beautiful if she wants to find a top quality rich man.

[David_Kek]

@aliali8 ok, good luck with that.

[TheUniqueOne96]

She sound like a hypocrite who wants a traditional man when she herself can't live up to the standards of a traditional woman.

You aren't entitled to a free date or to have anything paid for, just because of your gender.

The chances are the guy made an effort to approach, so if anything, show some gratitude that the guy did, because it probably wouldn't be the case if you weren't wearing makeup, anyone can bump up the scale massively with that on their face.

If a guy did get used for a free dinner when the woman wasn't interested in dating him, the same women would be calling the guy stupid for 'not knowing' he was being used, but if we don't pay, we're cheapskates, we simply can't win.

I definitely agree with her second point though, in terms of using people for money/sex.

[sp33d]

She makes good individual points, but only when assuming the relationship is not brand new. On a whole her story is contradictory. For instance, she promotes independence for women in some of her statements, but then says something about an allowance. That's dependence. So, which one is it, lady? And then she says something about how "our society today is built around shaming women". What? How about a relationship being a joint effort? Any mention of teamwork at all? I didn't hear nothing about that.

[aliali8]

The reason why she said our society is all about shaming women is because women honestly do not want to have sex with men as much as men do. But its very common for men to pressure women into sleeping with them on the second or third date. Even during relationsihps, the man always humps the woman's leg and begs for sex.

Why would women have to constantly cave in to men's sexual desires yet, women can't insist on what we really want? which is money?

there's no shame to men tricking women into bed for sex, but its shameful for a woman to play a man for his money?

[sp33d]

"there's no shame to men tricking women into bed for sex"

Isn't there, really?

[aliali8]

oh yea, it happens all the time. there's nothing wrong with being a pervert but there's always something wrong with being a gold digger.

[andreasderjuengere]

First impression: she likes herself talking.
She has a few good points, but also avoids an answer to i. e.: 'what do you bring to the table'.
I find fault in her (as in HER!) -repeated- definition of a gentleman;
pardon me, but I would like to have a say as well about what is considered gentleman-like.
In return, I'm open to re-specify the term 'materialistic'... together.
My (subconscious) impression of her is: entitlement and arrogance (tune and wording), own -hidden- agenda (body language).
Men indeed can be cheap - but the explanations offered here lack a certain objectivity they are ->clichés, indeed.

[aliali8]

i heard a lot of good explanations. Maybe you should watch the entire video.

[andreasderjuengere]

I did. What I noticed: she's cold like an iceberg; and full of confrontation - perhaps aversion.
Her little speech sounds like a business deal negotiation.
As I said - some of her points are correct.

[aliali8]

who cares about her tone if she does have legitimate points?

[andreasderjuengere]

I do. Because her motivations and attitudes are as important (to me) as what she talks about.

[Unit1]

😂😂😂
Freeloaders hate it so much when things aren't free.
Let them keep crying about it. Nothing's gonna change until they do.
Gold diggers.

[aliali8]

All women are designed to be gold diggers. Biologically, men are designed to be providers. While women are designed to want to be taken care of and be nurturers to children. there's no explanation for it. Its just the way it is.

[Unit1]

I'm not on that bandwagon. I'm sure there are others, who also aren't on it either. I've seen them myself.

[loveslongnails]

As the song goes, "Two Outa Three Ain't Bad".
" All women are designed to be gold diggers" ... is nonsense.

[loveslongnails]

Anyone else finding it ironic that when it suits a woman to "argue for her DNA that she designed to be provided for", she'll do so (which also contradicts women saying "we don't need men"). HOWEVER, when a woman wants and expects marital fidelity, she will argue vehemently against the idea that male DNA is adverse to monogamy. Anyone else picking up on that?

[errorgoodnameunfound]

@loveslongnails That's why so many men are against modern "feminism." It's fake. It's not actual feminism because cherry picking when to be traditional doesn't help women in the end. It just results in relationships that never last long, as eventually a fake "conservative" girlfriend will anger her boyfriend eventually where as a more liberal slutty gal will also hurt her boyfriend. Both can end up being whorish very easy in different ways.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails if male dna were adverse to monogamy then marriage wouldn't have been created for thousands of years.

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound Women control reproduction. So if you want kids, men will need to please women. You can't have kids on your own, can you?

[loveslongnails]

Monogamy has a rather dubious track record. What percentage of married men do you think would turn down having a variety of sexual partners if there were no emotional consequences or anger from their wives? I dare say a much greater percentage than women given the same opportunity.

And no, men don't need to please women to have kids. In a few decades most likely, all they will need are their eggs as artificial wombs will soon be a reality. Women certainly don't need to please a man to get pregnant - all you need is sperm, and there are banks for that. You don't need to be married to have children, and marriages themselves may one day be obsolete as the preferred method of child rearing.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails Well marraige has survived for thousands of years. So it worked out. If it didn't work at all, then it wouldn't survive so many years, would it?

Women control reproduction. there's no such thing as a artificial womb but it only exist in your dreams. Most men don't even want to have sex with robots.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Reproduction requires a man too, remember? Also, you do realize though they are working on artificial wombs right? Additionally, in this world, why would you want to multiply? Kids are goddam expensive raising from pregnancy and beyond. The world is not a good place to raise your own kids right now. I'd rather adopt from like age 3 and beyond so that way a future wife wouldn't have to deal with pregnancy and the horror that comes with it. And that way I 'd prove I don't see her as little more than a sex doll, as many guys do, who value the idea you put out waaaaaaaay too much. Just my ideas alone attracts many girls around my age, probably even more so ones that are a bit to young for me. I can even prove it if this poll gets enough views. Girls, would a guy that is more willing to adopt, instead of force pains of pregnancy automatically be a consideration? ↗

[errorgoodnameunfound]

@loveslongnails Damn, you put my point through nicely. Sorry I missed it.

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound Listen, if a woman wants kids. She can have a one night stand or buy some cheap sperm from a sperm bank. Its not hard to get sperm.

But if a man wants kids, he needs to find the right woman to marry. He needs to fall in love with the right woman. He needs to convince her to fall in love with him. He needs to please her. He needs to show commitment. This itself takes a lot of "luck" and years and years of searching and dating.

So its very hard for a man to convince a woman to have his child.

And adoption is no where close to being the same as having your own real child. And most adoption agencies do not give children to single parents. They only hand out kids to rich couples.

[loveslongnails]

@errorgoodnameunfound You're welcome.

[loveslongnails]

Wrong. LOL Men don't have to convince women to their babies when there are soooooooo many women willing to do it for a song and a dance. And if chooses a strongly conservation or anti-abortion lady, she'll keep it the child even if she doesn't want the guy. Then he'll have parental rights.
Of course it's easiest for a woman to get sperm and have her own kids, but love and marriage don't "need to be involved" just because you're a man who wants a kid.

As for you statement about artificial wombs, they certain DO exist but are not at the human testing stage yet for conceptions. That is expected in about 8-10 years. Here, learn something:
medicalxpress.com/.../...mb-survival-smallest.html

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails "Men don't have to convince women to their babies when there are soooooooo many women willing to do it for a song and a dance."

I think you're just saying this to make yourself feel better. Because overwhelming majority of women are not looking to get pregnant from a one night stand. Most sexually active women usually are on birth control or use condoms.

We are no where close to artificial wombs. And even if there is, you won't be able to afford it because its very expensive. And even if there are artificial wombs, it will be extremely difficult for you to get an "egg" from a woman. Because very few women are interested in donating eggs since it is a very painful arduous dangerous procedure. Costly too. Costs up to 50-100k

[loveslongnails]

Do some more research... there already ARE artificial wombs. Don't know why you want to deny that. They are not viable to be tested on a fertilized egg from inception to birth, but you can bet that's coming. It's all coming and it's only a matter of time.

Your assessment is inaccurate, and more than a little sophomoric. I personally don't have a dog in this race as I don't want kids. So since women currently control the birthing process, there are all kinds of things they can, have done, and will do, when it comes to pregnancy. Some is intentional, some is not.

I know countless instances of women who intentional got pregnant because they wanted kids and didn't care if the guy wanted them, or to be married, OR even committed to each other and to raising the child. They just wanted kids - unconditional love, and figured they'd just manage with the help of family and the state. I have no reliable world-wide stats on how often this occurs, but I know it occurs far too often, especially at the lower income strata's in the US. Or they entrap the guy. Like I already stated, a man can also entrap the girl by just choosing one who won't abort.

All of this is a separate discussion and off point, which is the one I disagree with you on initially, as well as men having to please women to get them to marry.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails So what? there ARE sex robots that men can have sex with. why don't you have one? Artificial wombs won't be here until the next 20+ years. And even if they do exist, overwhelming majority of men wouldn't be able to afford hiring an egg donor and an artificial womb. Nobody would care if you have an artificial womb, if you can't get an egg from a woman.

[loveslongnails]

Right now it's not affordable OR doable, but neither was the first cell phone 45 years ago. You just can't wrap your head around the idea that one day, women won't have, or maybe even won't want, the reproductive control they have now. We'll see if that day gets here before we wipe ourselves out.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails do you realize egg donation cost up to $50-80k? And the artificial womb is gonna also gonna be extremely expensive. Hiring a surrogate to carry a baby to full term is also extremely expensive.

so if someone like you wants a child, there's no chance you're ever gonna have one. Unless you please a woman.

Its much more possible for a woman to have a child than a man.

[loveslongnails]

Eventually that cost will come down, but that's beside one of my points... the one you don't believe. Men don't have to "please a woman" to get a family. All they have to do is get a woman pregnant - one that won't abort. That's it. And there's a far larger percentage of women than you're willing to believe, who fit that mold.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails Its highly unlikely a woman will keep her baby from a one night stand. Usually she will abort or give it up for adoption. Most women are looking to get pregnant after marriage and finding love, not some one night stand.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails And you're also mistaken about the amount of women who would not have unprotected sex with a man. 98% of my female friends / acquaintances use condoms or birth control. Only sluts would have unprotected sex. But chances are she's filled with STDs anyways

[loveslongnails]

LOL Now that's funny..."98% of your female friends"... YOUR friends. How do get to 98%? The first time you can hit 98% in a sampling would require 50 girls, 49 of whom would not have sex without a condom. You have FIFTY girlfriends and acquaintances that you recently surveyed? I don't think so. Now you're just making things up. On the other hand, I can go to a bar here in Georgia ( yes, they're open ) and easily find 10 guys who've had unprotected sex with woman they either just met or knew only slightly. I'll get back to you on just how many I have to ASK to find 10, but I absolutely guarantee I won't have to ask 500 guys. That would be 2%, which according to you, is the correct number --- at least among YOUR friends ! :-D

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails Well you aren't aware overwhelming majority of women aren't interested in getting pregnant from a one night stand because you probably never even had a girlfriend. You're a guy on GAG, I don't expect you to know any women.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails I can tell you that its much more common for a man to have a one night stand than a woman to have a one night stand.

[loveslongnails]

I'm not sure which is the more foolish - your inaccurate assumptions, your failed attempts to insult, or my wasting energy talking to you? My girlfriend, you know the one I don't have (?), thinks it's the latter and she might be correct. LOL At what point was is EVER said that "women are INTERESTED in getting pregnant from one night stands?" Never. Pay attention.

[loveslongnails]

Hmmm... every heterosexual one night stand that a man has obviously involves a female. So now you're saying that a greater NUMBER of men have one night stands, but with a smaller number of women who have them. Is that your contention now. For example, for every 10 men having one night stands, there are only, let's say, 5 women having them but these 5 women are doing double duty? Is that what you're saying?

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails I can tell you with confidence that overwhelming majority of women do not enjoy one night stands and will never ever enjoy the possibility of getting pregnant from it. Only sluts who sleep around all the time would enjoy one night stands. But usually sluts tend to be on birth control or abort when things go wrong. You can't remain a slut for long if you aren't on birth control.

[loveslongnails]

We're not talking about whether an overwhelming, or not so overwhelming, majority of women "enjoy" one night stands, or your definition of a slut. I can usually learn something from any conversation, so all I've learned from this one is you have an opinion I disagree with, and you like to use small samplings of personal experience to speak for "all women".

I also notice you never address any reply concerning your source "numbers", or the "logic" you employ to arrive at your statements. You think that saying things like " I can tell you with great confidence" actually carry statistical weight on any given subject. They don't, unless you're an EXPERT. Your experiences are based on a small cadre of like minded friends and acquaintances. You should keep that in mind before you make statements like "all women ________" or all anything.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails

www.washingtonexaminer.com/.../why-one-night-stands-dont-work-for-women

Why one-night stands don't work for women

One of the study's main findings was the different response from men and women who rated their comfort level with casual sex as “extremely comfortable.” About 28% of men had no doubts about one-night stands, whereas only 16.2% of women felt the same. Moreover, on average women reported fewer one-nighters overall (10.8%) than men (14.6%).

[aliali8]

WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO REGRET ONE-NIGHT STANDS THAN MEN. WHAT’S UP WITH THAT?

www.muscleandfitness.com/.../

[loveslongnails]

You keep pointing that out, and it's irrelevant to the question at hand. Completely irrelevant.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails hahahahah its funny how you react to get proven wrong.

[loveslongnails]

You didn't "prove" a thing that I didn't already know, but you completely, once again, missed the point of the discussion and went off base again. Yes, women don't "like" one night stands as much as men do - an obvious fact since women attach much more emotion to sex than men do. THAT wasn't the point we disagree on. Funny how you ignored every reference refuting your point and re-focused on something you thought you were "winning", even though we agreed for the most part. Still, your only response to "who is having sex with the multitude of men having one night stands" is simply this: sluts... none of whom are friends or acquaintances of yourself.

So, to reiterate for your ADD, we disagree that men "have to" please a woman in order to get her pregnant and start a family. So, leave it at that, since the argument is exhausted and you only base your claims on personal experiences and conjecture. Leave it.

[aliali8]

@loveslongnails so... if much much fewer women are interested in one night stands, then how are single men going to have kids? You IMPLIED that many single men can rely on having one night stands as a way to procreate without having to get married. You said this was a very effective reliable way.

From what it seems in the studies, very very few women actually enjoy one night stands. And most women who do go for one night stands, they use birth control or condoms. Without birth control or condoms, you can't be a slut for long.

[loveslongnails]

That is not at all what I said, nor implied - that is what you inferred. I never said it was effective OR desirable. What I said is that a man "could" choose to entrap a woman with a pregnancy the same as a woman can do to a man. And, I said that men don't "NEED" to please women to convince them to get pregnant and have a family.

There are plenty of women who want kids badly enough that they accept all kinds of crap of lousy men. Is that preferable? Of course not, but it happens quite often. Again, maybe not in your circle of friends and acquaintances, but it happens often. I never said one night stands were effective OR reliable ways to get a woman pregnant.

[ThisAndThat]

Attraction is how and why a man would get involved with women in the first place. And attraction is not materialistic because it directly relates to who she is it's a part of her, not what she has. While women are attracting to a man's money, which is not about the man what is a part of him, it's about what he has, what he's worth, materialism. Feminist can try all day long to try and justify materialism.

1 Timothy 6:10 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

This is why I am now a sold 34 year MGTOW Monk and I have no plans to ever change that.

[ThisAndThat]

Solid 34 year MGTOW Monk.

[aliali8]

ask around anyone who enjoys being poor? nobody would say "yes, i enjoy being poor."

obviously being rich is better.

[ThisAndThat]

I don't need to ask around because I can give the answer now. I would rather live dirt poor than lose my soul. And I would rather live the rest of my life alone than to live it with someone that covets money.

[aliali8]

well some people prefer to live poor because they are not capable of being successful. there are a ton of people who live poor and have no higher aspirations

[bamesjond0069]

I thought i was going to hate the video but i actually loved it. She says she cooks cleans takes care of the kids fucks... ok if your doing all that stuff the ofc the man should pay your way. Its all these girls saying i dont cook i dont clean i dont want kids, sex is once a month but give me money. Hell no. Those girls are trash.

She doesn't mention materialistic as per the gag question though. I think this dynamic is for all men not necessarily rich ones, so a woman who can shop deals and find ways to make the money go farther is very attractive. And on the other hand a woman who wastes money no matter how much is available is very unattractive in my eyes.

[aliali8]

so do you think that women should base their decision to marry a man based on his income? Women should never ever marry poor men?

[bamesjond0069]

In part yes. Obviously other factors are also in play.
And very very poor men? Who can't even keep a roof over their head for their woman? Absolutely. Get your shit together bro.

[aliali8]

no. im talking about men who can't afford to buy their wives or gfs gifts and give her what she wants. Since a man is supposed to provide for a woman and take care of her well. You can't possibly take care of a woman well, if you can't satisfy her needs. A woman needs more than just 3 meals a day and a mattress.

[bamesjond0069]

Give her what she wants is irrelevant. Most women have ridiculous expectations. It is a roof and food and basics. A man buys the house and the woman makes it a home. Richer men buy bigger houses but either way the man ought to buy a house. If he can't he shouldn't have a wife.

[aliali8]

yea but biologically, it is the goal of the woman to want to be taken care of the best. She wants a nicer house. She wants the best food for her and her children. She wants to drive a nicer car. She wants to be able to enjoy shopping and not hold back on buying the things she loves , just cuz her poor husband cannot afford it.

You can't just buy her a random house, give her a shitty allowance and expect her to be happy.

Its kinda like saying your wife just dress up and has sex with you once every 6 months and she expect you to be happy with it.

[bamesjond0069]

I don't know most women dont require that much. If she does then of course she needs to find a very rich man.

[aliali8]

but you do have to realize it is biological need for women to feel protected and provided for. Its a natural female need. Women do not ask for this much is because there is not enough rich men to go around. Most women just settle for the average joe without much money. Women like men that spend on them

[bamesjond0069]

Um no. You sound spoiled asf. This is coming from a multi millionaire fyi. Protected and provided for is to make them feel safe. Blowing money on nonsense is immoral and for low class people aka "hood rich"

[aliali8]

You are not a woman. So you do not have this need to feel provided for or protected. As a woman, we need more than just a mattress to sleep on and 3 meals a day. Women like to shop, to eat well, enjoy vacations. This is what you call enjoying life, not called wasting money. Biologically, women are designed to seek those who can provide WELL, for her. Giving your wife a mattress and 3 meals a day is not providing "well" for her.

[bamesjond0069]

See smart men are often rich men. As a smart man i know the woman is supposed to cook for me and save me a shit ton of money not having to go out to eat all the time. So yes i like to eat well too.

[aliali8]

A smart woman knows she's not a slave and doesn't have to cook for you 24/7. If you had the money, you would hire a cook. Women don't like cheap men who do not like to spend. Cheap men can't provide well for their wives.

[bamesjond0069]

But why would i have a wife if i hire a cook? What is the point of a wife if she doesn't do anything useful?

[aliali8]

well women like to be provided for, not worked to death. why wouldn't a woman just get an education and work a corporate job where she can make 6 figure salary? If you're gonna be slaving away in the kitchen, you might a well work your own career.

[bamesjond0069]

Have you ever cooked a meal? Or worked a job? Cooking a meal is far easier.

[aliali8]

what you're really doing is "hiring " your wife to cook and clean for you

[aliali8]

Cooking a meal is far harder than you think. It takes a lot of prepping food, shopping. It takes at least 1.5 hours to make a meal. Along with all the cleaning.

And plus, there's more reward to working your own career because you definitely get paid more than being hired by a husband to cook and clean.

[bamesjond0069]

Not really. Most women could never make enough money to pay half the rent of the places rich men could afford. So making a dinner to live in a mansion is a wonderful deal for most women.

[aliali8]

A masculine man will like to spend on his woman. He likes to make sure that she is well taken care of, has great food to eat, has a big allowance, a nice house to sleep in. A feminine woman will make sure her kids are taken care of and nurtured to the best extent.

[bamesjond0069]

Sounds good. I dont need a lazy oaf couch potato. Ill hire a wife.

[aliali8]

I live in a really rich city. THere are tons of rich women here. Many of them are the most educated women on earth who make 6 figures. Nannies take care of their kids 16 hours a day. Rich women do exist, you just need to live in a rich place

[aliali8]

Feminine women do not like cheap men who are too poor to hire cooks and maids. Women can definitely get a better man than you

[bamesjond0069]

No. That sounds highly undesirable. Sounds like a beta loser man.

[bamesjond0069]

Wtf? you're a man posing as a girl obviously. Feminine women enjoy cooking and cleaning. Thats what women do.

[aliali8]

Rich men are the most desirable. A so called "rich man" who can't hire a maid, chances are won't buy his wife expensive gifts. I know if i get married, i definitely will marry someone who is rich enough to hire a maid and a cook. Melania trump doesn't cook and clean. Donald hires servants for her

[aliali8]

Feminine woman like to be taken care of. YOu're not taking good care of your wife if you force her to work

[bamesjond0069]

Melania travels to attend business meetings and give speeches on her husbands behalf. Normal wives dont do that or have such an opportunity. A wife needs to contribute more value than she takes or she is a bad wife.

[aliali8]

why would a woman marry a rich husband only to be forced to work? I marry a rich man because i do not want to work. If i want to work, i rather work a career and make 6 figures. why do you think women want to marry rich man? Because she wants money without having to work!!! you're so dumb you can't even understand that

Melania re-negotiated her pre-nup for more money when donald got elected. So technically he paid her to be first lady. So yes, she was paid to write speeches and speak at conferences.

[Not_Average]

Entitled women are such a turn off. When you actually have money, you start to second guess women’s intentions. We don’t want women that only stroke our egos because we have money. That’s a shallow foundation. If we lose it all, they’re gone. Surely men who have wealth want to be valued outside of their wealth, and surely women who demand resources and shame you if you do not give it to them shall be ignored.

[aliali8]

Then date a rich woman. Only problem is that men have immense egos so they always date women lower than them

[Not_Average]

I wouldn’t say lesser. Men and women just value each other differently.

[aliali8]

Its been proven that men who marry women more successful than them , are more prone to divorce.

[loveslongnails]

I watched the video. Here's my response: I'm tired of watching videos about or listening to women complain about stupid men that THEY choose to get involved with. To answer your question, NO.. men are not cheap if they don't like materialistic women. A materialistic woman is one who constantly "want" FAR more, and I mean FAR more, than she "needs". Men who don't like that aren't cheap, they're smart.

[aliali8]

but you do have to realize it is biological need for women to feel protected and provided for. Its a natural female need

[loveslongnails]

Being provided for is about "needs". Being materialistic is about "wants", and wants are not necessarily needs. Material goods, in EXCESS, which is what we're talking about, don't have anything to do with being protected and provided for.

The average male wage earner isn't cheap because he doesn't buy his girlfriend $1,000 Jimmy Choo sandals and a $2,000 matching Gucci bag. He obviously can't afford it. But he also wouldn't be cheap if his girlfriend "wanted" to spend all their available disposable income on things she wanted.

Let's not perpetuate the myth that material abundance satisfies a natural female need. Millions of women living in less developed countries all over the world don't have the "biological need" that comes with available money to spend.

[aliali8]

You don't understand what it means to be "provided for". There is a difference between a poor husband who can only provide his wife a mattress and 3 meals a day , compared to a millionaire who can provide his wife the best clothing, food, maids, cooks. Women want a man who can provide for her WELL, not some guy who tries his best to provide for her.

A similar example:

There is a difference between a parent to raise their child WELL and a parent who simply raises their child with the bare minimum.

There is a huge difference in passing a test at 65%, compared to passing at test with a 99%.
Don't half ass providing for your wife. SHe knows the difference between an incapable provider vs. a capable one.

[MillenniumBill]

I watched it and my mind hasn't changed.
So, you want men to lavish you in money to support your ever increasing materialistic needs, and you give back WHAT exactly in return?

We have names for that.
In fact, there are occupations for that.

[aliali8]

Biologically, men are designed to be providers. While women are designed to be nurturers. there's no explanation for it. Its just the way it is.

[Phoenix98]

I mean Is it so wrong that maybe I find the idea of someone being incredibly materialistic and their life and worth being determined by the materialistic things that they have a turnoff?

There's more to life then trinkets and material objects.

[aliali8]

its not only about materials. Sometimes a woman just want to enjoy a good life. She wants the best food , best education for her kids, doesn't want crappy clothes, likes to enjoy the finer things in life such as visiting the spa, getting facials, relaxing with massages. Money provides an easy happy life. If you married a poor man, you would be slaving away at your job 60 hours a week and still can't afford to send your child to an elite school

[Phoenix98]

There's nothing wrong with wanting a good life we all want that it's why we work hard. But there's a difference between that and being materialistic or a gold digger.

[aliali8]

Like I said, women have an inherent desire to be taken care of by a man. Men have a desire to provide for their woman. "Gold digging" is part of a woman's nature. there's nothing wrong with a woman going after a man who has money. Just like you would go after a hot girl because you know the sex would be better. Its purely biological

[Phoenix98]

While I agree on the providing/protection part being a natural part of women and men. There's a difference between and gold digging. Don't use that as a convenient excuse to use guys for their money.

And I don't go after women for sex actually.

[aliali8]

@Phoenix98 Most guys on here would pick a hot girl over an ugly girl any day. Men value women off of looks. Women value men based on money.

[Phoenix98]

Don't get it wrong I never said I wouldn't choose the more attractive woman I just said sex wasn't my reason for doing so and isn't the first thing on my mind when choosing a partner.

[aliali8]

@Phoenix98 Don't fucking lie. Just take a look at how men bully and shit on older women on here. Saying how women in their 20s rule the the dating scene. If beauty has got nothing to do with it, then why this?

[aliali8]

there are 40 yr old men on here desperately trying to date 18 yr old girls. so why would you say that sex doesn't matter?

[Lynx122]

Why I'm obsessed with my mental health
I just wrote a mytake about why I care more about other things than money you can read it if you like.

[Levin]

If you want to see the world in materialistic terms, then realistically, it can be reflected back on you, such is the nature of karma. What does the woman in the video bring to the table?

[aliali8]

Biologically, men are designed to be providers. While women are designed to be nurturers. there's no explanation for it. Its just the way it is.

[Levin]

That's a gross oversimplification. Besides, a provider can come in myriad forms. She wants particular gestures and expressions of wealth. Also, she didn't give the impression of being a nurturer. Nurturers are generally kind and empathetic. Not demanding, arrogant and bitchy.

[aliali8]

she's not demanding bitchy or arrogant. she's just stating the truth. Its only poor men who cannot provide well for their wives who force their wives to use coupons or buy the cheapest clothing.

[Levin]

And I ask again, what is she bringing to the table herself?

[aliali8]

what do women bring to the table? women control reproduction. Without pleasing a woman, you would never be able to have kids.
Biologically, men are designed to be providers. While women are designed to be nurturers. there's no explanation for it. Its just the way it is.

[Levin]

Christ almighty woman!

I hope you're trolling!

Dating according to your view of the world is based on exchange of perceived value.

Man value attractiveness and youth as indicative of healthy genes and baby rearing capability, all of that good biological stuff you love.

What is she bringing to the table?

[aliali8]

Well she is attractive and she can provide children.

[Levin]

Wouldn't a male of high dating with 'bags a money!' value go for someone younger and hotter though?

[aliali8]

Men want someone young and hot and also someone they can relate to. Just like women want someone rich, but also a man she appreciates. by the way. she is married to very rich man already

[aliali8]

Just because I like a man with money, it doesn't mean I don't have to appreciate him as a person.

[Levin]

You're entitled to go for who you want. No one really cares.

[Therisinghero12]

Everyone wants something different from a relationship, and that's okay; if a woman wants a provider or if a man wants an independent woman, that's okay, but just like it says towards the end of the video boundaries have to be set and communicated, tell your wants and expectations to your partner instead of hoping they figure it out on their own. That's my opinion at least

[Juxtapose]

[kkirk4442]

For me, I want a girl who would like me whether I'm rich or poor. If she likes me for who I am, then I like to be generous with her.

[aliali8]

but you do have to realize it is biological need for women to feel protected and provided for. Its a natural female need

[Pete671]

Classic example of toxic femininity, the video (I did watch it right through) could be called "why men should never get married",,,
Yeh, give the lady an allowance so she can be independent lol,,,

[Yaaten]

Yeah, that's it, we're "cheap" because we don't like shallow, narcissistic gold-diggers. (That's sarcasm by the way)

[aliali8]

Biologically, men are designed to be providers. While women are designed to want to be provided for. there's no explanation for it. Its just the way it is.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Well, if you want to argue the "biologicsl" pov, then why are you even talking to random guys on the internet and not instead making a sammich for your provider? What about those kids you should be busy raising? "Biologically" you should have had kids like seven years ago.

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound what makes you think a woman can't do all of that and also interact with people online? This is what angry poor men say when women don't want them

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound nobody has kids at 18. And if they do, its usually aborted or given up for adoption.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Oh so because of the DISADVANTAGES to your "it's biological" argument you don't want to think about, you get all angry and assume I must not get girls as if that's my priority in life. How classic. :) Your words "men are the providers" is stemmed from a time long ago, in which yes, women were married as young as 18 and would have been scolded for doing anything more than cooking and raising kids. You can not argue that and be factually correct. Personal attacks don't do shit, but please continue them and prove just how much of that "strong woman" you are. :D

[errorgoodnameunfound]

oh wait, you want to be provided for. That means, WEAK. :D

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound You're so emotional that you're like a woman. Did I offend you that rich men get all the most beautiful women?

I did not want to have a kid at 18. I'm 25 and I still get men hitting on me. I'm dating a rich guy right now. haha

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound I think you're just mad that some men are able to provide for their wives while you can't. Broke men can't get women. haha

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Yes. I am in full rage. Rawr. Look out. RAWR. See my rage? RaAwRrRrRrR. Better run or all this rage will get you and your high horse. :D

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound A woman doesn't have to worry about never having kids. If a woman wants kids, she will have them. Women control reproduction. Its up to men to please women

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Yes, but also, if I want a sandwich, I can get a sandwich. I control whether I get a sandwich. But I can't make a sandwich without bread. Now, I do have a bit more control of bread, but not if there is no bread available. :D Let's say the sandwich represents babies and the bread represents men. It checks out. Now, usually, there is bread available to get, just like men. But just like not all bread makes a good sandwhich, not all men make good partners/life for a baby. Fact is, the best of the best bread available for a sandwhich is often overlooked in a rush, just like the best of the best men as good fathers and such are also often overlooked.

by the way, I've been called a good father before even though I am single. Probably cause I've babysat on multiple occasions so unlike many men that women go for, (until they show their true, abusive selfs), I actually understand kids and how hard they are to raise. I also have only sisters. 4 of them as well as two exs and a girl who seems like she'd do me if she could. But I'm not the type to chase. I know that pisses many women off, but yah, never gonna chase, OK with being single or even ending up gay af. :D

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound haha, the wives of rich men don't have to make sandwiches. Maids do it all for them. Chefs cook meals to be delivered to her bedroom. Nannies do all her child rearing too. Only a wife of a poor man would have to make a sandwich. These wives are with men who can't provide for them. Jealous poor men like you

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Hey, I am quite OK being a single hobo. When you're 50 and your husband has no use for ya, this bridge is kinda full, but maybe you can try down the street near the dumpster. Seems more your style. :D

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound by the time I'm 50, I would have millions of dollars and my elderly husband would be dead. I can feel free to date anyone by then, as a millionaire.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

LOL why in the fuckity fuck would what is essentially a human sex doll till the age of 50? He can kick ya out of his life at like 28 if he's that rich. Why screw you when there are much sexier 22 year olds and such lined up? You aren't free. You require resources and if you don't give back, why keep ya?

TL;DR: That dumpster down the street awaits your company! By then, I will be king hobo and lead my hobo army to terrorize your dumpster kingdom! :D

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound hun, do you think he is stupid? do you know how much it costs to divorce? Even if there is a pre-nup in place, he still has to pay millions to his ex wife upon divorce. For every additional wife he divorces, the more money he needs to pay for each wife he's divorcing. If he divorces 5 women, he can lose up to 50 million dollars.

its not advantageous for him to constantly divorce. He can save a lot of $ by never marrying and just having a ton of girlfriends.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Eh, actually if he married a human sex doll, he's a pretty big dumbass in my book. I'm just happy it seems you are not multiplying. Somebody whose personality matches a dumpster isn't exactly a motherly type ya know? :D

[Yaaten]

@errorgoodnameunfound As "young" as 18? In the olden days, not so long ago really, women would wind up married at the age of 14.

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound Evolutionally, men only care about how good looking a woman is. While women only care about how rich and strong and fit a man is.

[aliali8]

@yaaten people married at 14 because people died early back then. Typically people die in their late 20s to early 30s

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Yah well, as I said, if you wanna live as if you are in cavemen times, then you should be tending to kids and making food, not arguing with every person possible on the internet. Truth hurts hun. That dumpster is still ready for you when ya need it :D

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound rich women do not have to tend to kids. Rich husbands hire maids to tend tot his wife and nannies to tend to the kids. Brilliant tutors for the kids so they grow up into smart people. A woman's ideal life is to not work, and have her husband be able to provide everything for her. Masculine men are able to provide for his woman. Beta males can't provide for his woman but rather forces her to work to death just so her kids can grow up into dumbasses without an education

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Whatever ya say lady. The dumpster awaits you! :D

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound there's a million dollars in the dumpster

[errorgoodnameunfound]

he threw you out already? damn. why taking shrooms so fast tho? look, ik the hobo life is hard, but "stray away from drugs kids" wasn't something to be ignored OK? Now sit back, relax, and prep yourself. #erroronlyhobosfound is coming your way :D

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound husbands still need to pay their wives 5-10 million even with a signed prenup in place. so yes, there is no disadvantage for a woman to marry rich men

you're just jealous you can't get hotter ladies, like me

[errorgoodnameunfound]

woah woah WOOOOOOOOOOOOAH hold on there hun. I do not know you. I do not like you. Idgaf if you get the Mrs Galaxy award, I think you suck. Both in the insultive way and likely, in the sexual way. A lot. :D

But besides that, even if your husband divorced ya and you got a million or so, without income, it will be inevitably drained. Especially if you have kids, hooooooo girl me thinks you have no idea what it is actually like to raise a kid without a sugar daddy to cover.

Hell, I'm still sus that you're dreaming that you could get all this and just lying about it to make you feel better. I see no evidence that you're wealthy. Nor do I care enough to see it.

Stop trying to dominate random men on the net so much tutz. It may work for others, but I'm a clown character, the kind that will still be laughing even as he gets ran over and rises as a ghost into the heavens. :D

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound Its true. When you divorce your wife, you still need to pay her upon divorce, even with a prenup in place. And with every extra wife that you further divorce, the more you need to pay for each furhter ex wife. This is the fact taht people do not know about prenups. You might not need to split all your assets but there is still a payment that has to be made.

Upon divorce, kids are handed to the parent who is most capable of raising the kids. If the father is richer than the mother, the kids will be handed over to the father.

It sounds to me like you're absolutely clueless about divorce and prenups.

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound And you know what? Men are just as shallow as women. Just take a look at how many men hate older women on here. Men see 30 yr old women on here as worthless and undesirable. Everyone wants a 20 something yr old woman. So i dont know why you hate me so much, if you're just as shallow as the rest of them.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Eh, you've acted like kinda a brat arguing with every man here, even ones likely just as wealthy or more so than you. I remain a clown character, so "hate" for me is usually reserved for fucktards like PETA or true 100% sadistic narcissists which only so many exist.

My point stands that it doesn't matter if you get money with divorce or prenups especially with kids, you'll likely need a income, and BJs won't cut it once you get over 30.

Even if you get money for life and don't have to care for the kids, the kids are still going to have resentment and loneliness is usually not easy, but it's bound to happen eventually.

There are too many things that can go wrong and usually do being too materialistic and greedy. It's just usually not seen until it's too late.

I don't know how you can compare me to other dudes here. 1/2 don't have near enough clown skills/patience to continue talking to ya, no offence. (or maybe all the offence, not sure :D )

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound You won't ever make a million dollars in your lifetime. So don't come here an tell me that 5 million is not enough to live on for the rest of my life. I can invest, start my own business, make my own money.

And plus, men will marry women over 30 , as long as she is attractive. This lady in the video just got married to a very rich banker at the age of 34.

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound you're just angry that you're not a millionaire. if you were a rich man, you would be just as shallow as the rest of us.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Here:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/vgovxAwbf1U

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Abba and Preach. MY MAN! :D They and Mutahar from SomeOrdinaryGamer not only are cool to listen to, but holy shit their laughs are THE best. xD

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@errorgoodnameunfound I know right? Preach laugh makes me laugh too xD

[aliali8]

the guys in the video did not show all of what she said or any of her valid points. A poor man's reaction to a woman preferring real masculine men who can actually provide

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@aliali8 What valid points? She is a gold digger. She doesn't want a man she wants money. She asked for an "allowance". That is something you give to your child, not a grown adult.
Besides she didn't answer to what she brings to the table.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion So what? As the lady pointed out, men are SEX DIGGERS. Take a look at how much men hate and bully older women on here. Every man wants to date the hottest girl. What is wrong with a woman wanting to date the richest man?

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Not all women want to marry for money and not all men marry for sex. In fact women make more than their partners in 1/3 of relationships today.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

Eh, I actually have plenty of older women that are fine with me. The hate towards older women ere may stem from suspicion that they are karens that are mad they can't take advantage of the cock carousel anymore. Also, wealth usually takes work, looking hot often does not. Most girls if they take average care of themselves are usually a 6-7 alone and with a little adjustment can easily be a 9.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

wealth often lasts WAY longer than good looks. Most would rather wealth.

[errorgoodnameunfound]

by the way, I had the chance to date hot women. Both went after me. I chose ones that didn't even have the looks I preferred because I knew brains + personality would be more important in the end, since looks can change in an instant anyways. I was right and it was decent while it lasted.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion All women would prefer to marry a rich man. Just like all men would prefer to marry a pretty woman. THe problem is that there isn't enough rich men or pretty women to go around.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion Its been proven that men marry women who make less money. Rich women tend to only like to marry other rich men. And statistics have shown that men who marry high status women, tend to divorce way more. See? Biologically men want to provide while women want to be provided for.

[aliali8]

@errorgoodnameunfound yea right, u expect me to believe u.* sarcasm

i think most men would pick an ugly girl over a pretty girl any day.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@aliali8 if you want to believe that be my guess. The world was like that. But not anymore.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion Well statistics show that most men marry women that are poorer than them.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Yes, but today in 1/3 of relationships the women make more.
Sure men still male more. Doesn't mean they married those women because they make less than them.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion why do you think 2/3 of couples, have men who make more money? because men like to provide. why do men prefer hot women rather than rich women? because biologically, men do not feel the need to be taken care of. He feels the need to take care of her

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

We all do feel it inside to take care of our partners. At least we all should.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion This instinct is much more strong in men than women. Same reason why overwhelming majority of men prefer housewives. The only reason why a man would hate on this question is because he knows he is poor and is angry that women aren't attracted to him

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@aliali8 instincts are for animals without free will.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion ok so how do you explain why overwhelming majority of men prefer to date women who make less money than them?

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

They don't do it because those women make less. Women on average chose careers that don't give as much money. So when two people meet chances are the man will make more.
They don't search women who make less. They happen to make less.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion
Richer, more powerful women make men feel emasculated.

www.readunwritten.com/.../
Men can also get really intimidated by the amount of money she has in her wallet. Personally, I don’t care what you have, I like you for you. But, the moment they hear that you work a lot or have a well paying job, it’s as if they feel their masculinity is diminishing and they don’t feel superior anymore.

The moral of the story is, men want to date women who make them feel good about themselves. Strong and independent women make them feel insecure about their own lives and it essentially drives them away. It’s like we’re “too powerful” for them.

[aliali8]

Why Are Men Still So Afraid of Ambitious Women?
Some women are downplaying their career goals to find a partner. Here's how to find someone who supports you personally and professionally.

www.cosmopolitan.com/.../

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

No they don't. Not to real men at least. We don't get emasculated that easy.

[aliali8]

Well biologically men have an inherent desire to "provide" for women. While women have a need to find a man who can provide for her and her children. This is also another big reason why men like to marry women poorer than them. And its another fact that men love repeating on GAG.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

And we can provide in many ways.
Let's say she makes more then me. I can still provide for her with the money I make.
And I am not sure about that biological need to provide to be true.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion Men value women purely based off of physical attraction. Women value men based off of both looks and money.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Those women are gold diggers and those men are morons.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion No they are not. Because biologically men value women purely off of looks. While women can value a man based off of looks, status or money

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

if you think men don't like women with money or that women don't like men who look good you are very mistaken.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion Well thats what men love repeating on this website. Men only go for hot women. Women only go for rich guys. Its biological

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Again that is false. Gold digger go just for money, morons just for looks.
We are talking in circles now.

[aliali8]

@thisismyopinion Just because i highly prefer rich men , it doesn't mean Im a gold digger. Just because you highly prefer an attractive wife, it doesn't mean you're a sugar daddy. Quit the dumb stereotypes

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

And there we go... of course you believe what you believe. You use it to say "I am not s gold digger because it's biological,"

[aliali8]

Just because a woman wants a man who can provide well for her, it doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't care for her husband.

[InferiorElegy]

Sounds like something a gold digger would say about a guy who isn't putting up with their gold digging shit.

[aliali8]

but you do have to realize it is biological need for women to feel protected and provided for. Its a natural female need

[InferiorElegy]

You're right, it's biological for females to be Gold diggers but guess what women fought for equal rights and to have jobs so you all can be as materialistic as you want with your own goddamn money, men no longer need to provide or protect females, go out and take self defense classes or buy a gun and protect yourselves.

[aliali8]

Well if women have to work because men like you won't pay a random woman's rent. If you won't pay for my rent, then who will?

[InferiorElegy]

Obviously you.

[aliali8]

yea, so women do have to work. but we all still have an innate natural desire for a man to provide for us. Its not that we want to work, its because we have to work.

[zagor]

Is this part of a series "How to be a gold-digging whore"? This woman apparently can't find a man who will put up with her shit so she spends her time making YouTube videos.

[aliali8]

she gets paid well doing youtube videos and now she is married

[Unit1]

I bet only her looks and manipulation tactics got her a sycophant with low self esteem to marry.

[aliali8]

@Unit1 you think she's beautiful? she's actually plastic.

[zagor]

Yeah I don't think she got very far with her looks.

[Unit1]

Men would order and have sex with huge silicon dolls that look like real women. Your point means nothing.

[aliali8]

she's married to a rich man now

[zagor]

Then she is quite qualified to teach how to be a gold-digging whore.

[aliali8]

well biologically women are supposed to be gold diggers. Just like how men on here are sex diggers. See how much men on here shit on older women?

[zagor]

She's not being shit on for being older, she's getting shit on for what she said.

[aliali8]

@zagor ohh... women are never ever the nasty ones on here. This website is run by misogynists. The mocking of older women are constantly on the headlines for this site. Just imagine if there were women mocking poor men.

[zagor]

OK, I thought you were talking about the woman in the video, not in general.

[Josh4206]

That video is annoying, she has no clue what she's talking about and went on a random rant lol.

[aliali8]

i think she does make sense. she provided pretty clear explanations

[Anonymous]

Obviously not.
*Normal people* don't like materialistic people.

A line that calls them cheap for that is just the epitome of a toxic bitch line: An egotistical deflection to defer responsibility or need to compromise -- an *excuse*.

[aliali8]

Biologically, men are designed to be providers. While women are designed to want to be taken care of and be nurturers to children. there's no explanation for it. Its just the way it is.

[Opinion Owner]

And women who consume less resources are superior, even from that biological perspective.
Being wired to be taken care of doesn't entitle them to be taken care of. It's an urge that needs to be reconciled with reality. Reality doesn't conform to the urge. And that's what the toxic belief is for, it's an attempt by the woman to milk the situation. Hence, women who don't do that stuff are that much more attractive to men.

[aliali8]

"And women who consume less resources are superior, even from that biological perspective."

From a biological perspective, the men who are most likely to provide well for their woman tend to be the ones who procreate. Women will always prefer a man who can take care of them well rather than some broke dude. Just the same way you will always prefer a pretty girl over an ugly one.

[Archerer]

No, I think it is increasingly important to not produce waste, not really about money but more about the environment, at least for me. The amount of useless shit people buy that adds to the landfills and toxic chemicals in the air is alarming.

[JessicaNeo]

I don't think so they sound cheap. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes

[RenegadeSailor]

I would leave this woman in my wake so fast she wouldn't know what hit her.

This video is completely toxic.

[MackWestwood]

Women don't want to be seen as sex toys and men don't want to be seen as ATMs.

[aliali8]

All women are designed to be gold diggers. Biologically, men are designed to be providers. While women are designed to want to be taken care of and be nurturers to children. there's no explanation for it. Its just the way it is.

[Lunatic1]

Not always. I don't mind her wanting things, but she needs to be smart about money management and not obsessive about things.

[apimpnamedslickback]

Is it cheap to want to be looked at as a human being and not a walking wallet?

[Anonymous]

So, what do these women actually bring to the table to make them worthy of this?

[aliali8]

Biologically, men are designed to be providers. While women are designed to be nurturers. there's no explanation for it. Its just the way it is.

[Yaaten]

There's no explanation for it because it sounds like something Jordan Peterson would say, and that guy is full of crap.

[aliali8]

@Yaaten its a load of crap because you don't like the truth that all women prefer rich men

[Yaaten]

ALL women? I've met quite a few who really didn't care about material wealth, their boyfriends/husbands earning less than they. My brother found someone quite rich when he was unemployed, and he's not exactly good looking either. Other things, like personality, count as well and should not be so easily overlooked.

[Opinion Owner]

@Yaaten I think OP is just trying to find justification for being a gold digger because she doesn't want to work for a living

[Yaaten]

Yes, that must be it. There are so many of those women around these days. It's sad really :(

[aliali8]

@Yaaten Women like to marry "up", not down. High status women tend to only date other high status men. Men like to marry "down" because he likes to feel like he is providing for his wife. And statistics show that men who marry higher status women, tend to divorce more frequently.

[aliali8]

@Opinion owner, who actually wants to work nowadays? Nobody! Everyone wishes they can become millionaires. Except women are biologically designed to want to be provided for. Men have a desire to provide for her. So its only men who cannot provide well for their wives who have a problem with this question.

[AzzaBlue]

Spin it anyway you want. You and this "thing" are just lazy good for nothing entitled parasites.

[aliali8]

@AzzaBlue Well women are supposed to be parasites. Women like to be provided for. If you don't like women that like masculine men who provide, then go for a feminist (whose probably a man herself).

[AzzaBlue]

My apologies for my rude comment. Personally I don't find such entitled women to be very attractive. But hey, it's your life so you do you.

[aliali8]

@AzzaBlue you're just angry because you're poor and women aren't attracted to you. Because I know that you will prefer your wife to be a housewife over a working woman in a heart beat. Just like the rest of all the other guys on here. Only problem is, no woman would be happy being your housewife because she'd be cutting up coupons.

[AzzaBlue]

Nope, I am far from being poor. I just have a thing called dignity and self respect and I don't want a free loader in my life. If that's the life that you want then go for it. Like I said, you do you.

[aliali8]

@AzzaBlue Just in case you didn't know, men are supposed to provide for women. Women designed by nature to enjoy being provided for. If you don't like women, just turn gay and date a man. Men don't feel the need to be provided for

[CriticalDiscourse]

No. They just don't need adult children.

[aliali8]

most men prefer housewives, just in case u didn't know

[CriticalDiscourse]

Good for those men, I'm not one of them and don't give a damn if that's what they want. They can stay in the prehistoric age while I'm out here travelling the world and shit.

[aliali8]

if you take a look around its just poor men hating on this question

[michael1469]

Well of course they are, because why pay for something you can get free, like sex.

[Anonymous]

Why does her face look like that? Lip injections. botox?

She looks very odd

[Sincerly_KittyCat]

Reall sharing Anna Bey's video 😒

[admles]

Right?

Basically destroys all credibility here!

[aliali8]

@admles Ana Bey does have a few valid points up there.

[Princess_Kate]

Fiscally responsibile

[Mia-Wallace]

Nah.

[TonyV]

What?

[alexander3244]

It depends. Maybe it's a woman who's greedy?

[Waldoe]

I don't accept homework assignments, good luck

[magiusX26]

nope

[6twiztid6mindz6]

No your just shallow

[Anonymous]

No absolutely no