
When you see this flag, what is the first thing that comes to your mind?

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A part of American history.
Something for "woke", historically ignorant, liberal SJWs to cry about.
It reminds me of the Southern states; pride of place; the Civil War; the Dukes of Hazzard; the Beverly Hillbillies; the Darling family on the Andy Griffith Show; Nascar; fried chicken and grits; Cajun food. Yes, it also reminds me of slave plantations and the Blue Dog Democrats who institutionalized segregation; chain gangs; lynchings; the KKK.
All in all, though, it doesn't upset me. I despise Black Lives Matter, the 1619 Project, and self loathing, white, latte liberal racists more.
The USA flag has much more blood on it and I don't hate it. So why would I be bothered by the flag of the South? I'm capable of looking at history in depth and seeing all the nuance. People with shallow understanding see everything in black and white, good and evil.
It's literally a flag of rebellion against the United States. And that rebellion was due to slavery. It'd be nearly the same thing as if a lot of Germans wore swastikas saying it was part of their history.
@NimbleOcelot. You need to learn a lot more about that history.
It wasn't about slavery. It was about economics. The economy of the northern states was based on industrialization. The southern states were agrarian. The north was benefiting from the south's production but playing games with the pricing. It also put a blockade on the south's exports to other countries. The southern states didn't feel that they were being equally represented in Washington DC. They felt, with good reason, that the federal government corrupt. So they decided that it was within their rights to secede from a union that they had voluntarily agreed to join. It was a constitutional question that should have been pondered at the time. Instead, Lincoln decided to go to war in order to "preserve the union". The Emancipation Proclamation applied only to states that had seceded from the United States was a means of crippling them economically.
Lincoln once said “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it.” He also investigated many avenues for transporting American blacks somewhere else, even to Texas, in order to keep them from separate from the white population.
"There is no provision in the U. S. Constitution which prohibits a state from seceding from the union. This is made clear by a proposal which was made at the 1787 Constitutional Convention to grant the new federal government the specific power to suppress a seceding state. James Madison, widely acknowledged as the key founding father of the Constitution and scholar, rejected this proposal stating, “A Union of states containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a state would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be considered by the party attacked as dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound.” The assurance of state sovereignty is embodied in the Tenth Amendment of the Constitution, which reserves to the states all rights which have not been specifically delegated to the federal government. As the federal government was never delegated the right to force the states into violent submission, secession is properly a legal right which can be exercised at any time.
Thomas Jefferson, of course, made clear his distrust of an all-powerful federal government and palpable fear that the will of the people could easily be hijacked. As he stated in the Federalist Papers, “Where powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy.” .
You're not exactly right. The secession was because Lincoln wanted no states that joined the union under his presidency to be slave states. The stated that seceded daid that the states should be able to choose. In the Confederate constitution it made particular references to slavery, so that was definitely a concern for them. Most northern soldiers, at the start, were not anti-slavery. They didn't really know much about it. A good number thought that you shouldn't leave the US as a state just because your candidate lost the election. Their viewpoint changed. As they pushed deeper into the south they saw how bad slavery really was. They also realized it was a problem we'd have to deal with eventually. If the war didn't end slavery, we would soon have another war where our children are fighting over it. Yet if we end slavery our children won't have to fight. At that point all Union soldiers became abolitionist and Lincoln who never really liked slavery in the first place officially abolished it.
The rebel flag/The southern flag. This is the Confederate flag that was flown when slaves we're a thing. The rebel flag was actually just a battle flag and really nothing more. It'd be flown on some special occasions but it was mostly meant to represent Southern pride.
Now it's up to anyone who reads this comment to decide weather or not the Battle flag they used is racist. To some degree you can compare it to the Iron cross. It was a thing that the Germans in WW2 ruined the image of and today in the United states it's considered racist. Although that point might be considered moot because the Confederates created this one for the soul purpose of having a battle flag. But at the same time the Iron cross shows the meaning of certain symbols can change so why not the Confederate flag?
As said I have no opinion I just like history 🤷♂️
@Twalli Let me fix my response. The actions of a person who is carrying the flag/symbol does not reflect the symbol. I don't really care either way it isn't my flag but I don't like how people seem to think that if someone carries a flag and says/does something with said flag that that's what the flag stands for. That is a awful assumption to me
Just a flag. I think the American flag has just as much hate behind it. The US Army slaughtered the American Indian and their motto was The only good Indian is a dead Indian. There are many instances of the army swooping down on a peaceful Indian village and slaughtering men, women, and children. They stole the Indian's land and put them in Reservations where they could not survive without Government help. The crooked Indian agents sold the food allotted to the Indians and instead gave them rancid meat and smallpox infected blankets in order to bump them off. So please, no more shit about the Confederate flag as the American flag is no better as blacks were relegated to the back of busses and could not use a white bathroom or eat in a white man's cafe.
The 2 downvoters don't like Indians either. They are raping the white men back at their casinos.
By the way, do you know soldiers used to make tobacco pouches out of Indian's breasts and scrotums? Real nice guys.
the confederate flag which was their country sort of did you know confederates also had their own money... they were very much into becoming a country.
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Obviously, it was the flag of the Confederacy of States.
I think of the Cornerstone Address.
I think of how southern states believed they had the God given right and duty to supply the world with goods that could only be made through slave labor. (Read their articles of secession BEFORE you tell me it was about "states rights")
I think of how today it's being used as a white supremacist rallying symbol, and how somehow the words "cultural heritage" became attached to it.
I wonder if any of the down voters have ever HEARD of, let alone READ, the Cornerstone Address? It's disgusting.
Rebellious self-sufficient people who don't like the government and don't care if this flag hurts your feelings. I'm from North Carolina and down there people proudly fly the Confederate flag and it's not a symbol of racism to us it's a symbol of rebellion. And if you look into the true history of our past not what we're told in school and understand the true reasons behind the civil war and what each side was fighting for in represented and you would probably fly also
I understand it was the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia. In modern times it has been stolen by racists and used as a symbol of their misguided ideals.
The Nazis stole a symbol (swastika) of the Navajo Nation, their good luck "whirling log" once painstakingly woven into Navajo blankets and other art and also used on Arizona road signs. The symbol disappeared from their arts.
In the same way we need to retire this flag from public use and retire it to museums.
The Swastika originated from Buddhism.
@Guardian45 Thanks for this bit of enlightenment.
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Mississippi since it was the state flag of Mississippi. The Second Confederate Navy Jack, 1863–1865. Also the Battle Flag of the Army of Tennessee, and similar to The Second Confederate Navy Jack, in use from 1863 until 1865, although with the darker blue field of the Army's battle flag.
What do you think of when you see it?
The history, though, is clear: from the civil rights movement, the flag has always been about white supremacy. The only thing that has changed is how the rest of the country sees the cause it represents. The original Confederate flag had circles on it seven Stars the flag you see up there is that the original Confederate flag it's the rebel flag The modern day flag began during the 1948 United States presidential election when it was used by the Dixiecrats, a political party that opposed civil rights for African Americans and supported racial segregation Further display of the flag was a response to the civil rights movement and the passage of federal civil right laws in 1950s and 1960s. P S. I hate the rebel flag. I hate racism
I couldn't agree more, it is disappointing how many Americans are so oblivious to what this flag even represents that they resort to believing it means pride or honor. There is nothing honorable about this flag and definitely no pride, unless your an uneducated racist.
And the funny thing is black men fought in the civil war
Exactly
When I see a civil war re-enactment and they’re charging with that flag, I always think.
My fathers side of the family.
On his mothers side, they were in the deep south, Alabama and Mississippi, on his fathers die, they were from the north.
From what historical records the family had, the south side of the family lost around 80 members and the north lost about 20 members during the course of the war.
DUKES OF HAZARD!!!
Bo n Luke Duke were my tv crushes when I was a kid.
Had a sleeping bag and a matching nightie gown with pillow for slumber parties.
I've never paid attention to any flag outside of the main usa flag. Im sure the confederate flag has a fcked up underlying meaning but I've never paid attention to its history and dont care to know. I dont fly it so im not worried about it
"Raise da milisher! Da south will riiiiiise agaiiiin. Go gets me muhSpittoon i gots bacci ta spit, moonshine to drink, and cousins to ****" https://giphy.com/gifs/deliverance-dueling-banjos-todorrobot-WCcRtUqT2ekus
One of the first times the United States split for a cause that was against the constitution to begin with. So many brothers and sister died to heal and Unite this nation. All people are equal in this country. It may not seem that way but it all depends on how a person interprets the constitutional.
Racism. I fucked your cousin vibes. I’m the noisy neighbor who’s also a Karen. I have trump flags in my front yard. I hate people of color. Feminists suck. Activists suck. mullets. Spoiled milk body odor. Holes in shirt. Stains on clothes. Frizzy unbrushed light brown long hair for both men and women. Privilege. Beer cans on porch. Trucks that are falling apart.
That’s the stuff that pops into my mind whenever I see that crusty flag.
Well that's specific. Lol!
The South. Specifically, Alabama.
No I don't see "racism" or "White supremacy."
A relic from our past that should be remembered and a symbol of southern pride.
Nothing good. The Civil War ended a long time ago, but the racism still lives in some places with some people. All of it needs to just go away, brings to mind the mentality of "Deliverance".
Yessiree!
That the person flying it is racist, or ignorant, or both
In all honesty... The Dukes of Hazzard. I grew up watching that show. And just now heard the theme song.
That it looks good on my wall.
Thats the confederate battle flag isn't it? I dont have an opinion on it one way or the other, Its part of US history, and should not be forgotten, lest we repeat history.
The top of the General Lee from the Dukes of Hazzard. I'm old enough to have watched the original show.
Southern pride.
Traitors, and the person flying it deep down wished they weren't part of America

Sing it to me Waylon!
Southerners, Southern accents and the General Lee Charger.
I grew up in the north.
Dukes of Hazzard.
That's all I ever thought about it until I moved to the south.
The first thing that comes to my mind is the morons who still think that's the Confederate States flag
I always thought of it as a flag from the south. I've also heard confederate. But if not then what was the flag meant to symbolize?
This is the Confederate battle flag, it was meant to allow soldiers on both sides to recognize what faction they were on and so the Union wouldn't mistake their flag for a white surrender flag as they did with their battle flag which had that section in the corner and white on the rest.
Four-way intersection and all those stars are going to crash
I see the ideals of a fail nation bent on making sure that one part of the population is enslaved.
Limited federal government and power to the states.
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The Dukes of Hazzard
Old Miss football
The Civil War
I forgot one...
The awesome, legendary rock band: Lynyrd Skynyrd
History, civil war, agricultural economy, slave plantations, Robert E. Lee.
Democrats being angry that Republicans freed their slaves.
Racism.
I am generally a very politically incorrect individual but holy shit people who wave that flag around are racist as fuck on average.
I just think it's the confederate flag. Regardless of how you feel about it. It is a symbol of an important part of U. S. history.
Burning it for a marshmallow roast or Burning down the daughters of the confederacy building in Richmond. Not sure which is more fun
I see a flag that it's yea if we wanna get all historical on it than it's more than just a flag. But at the moment it's just a flag
Ignorance of history among people who hang it.
It’s not even the flag of the confederacy.
Then why was it so important to ban it?
@DarkWinterNights it's a KKK flag
@DarkWinterNights
1) It’s not banned
2) It’s insulting and treasonous. Akin to flying a Nazi flag.
People that are into Civil War reenactment, history buffs, General Lee car stunts, Democrats, etc.
georgia. and the the southern states starting a new country.
British x-men.
I know thats not what it is.
But thats my first thought.
White people south. Maybe the confederate flag dukes of hazard kanye west
Confederates. If it’s in a museum, it’s probably about Civil War history. If it’s on someone’s porch, I’d be a bit concern.
When I see that flag my first thought is uncle Daddy & cousin fuckers j. s. honestly
Seig Heil!! That is the confederate *battle flag* not the confederate national flag. The battle flag became a symbol of southern resistance. Now used by nazis and the Klang extensively.
Typo... Klan
All the negative stuff, then: Why is it labelled "Dating"?
Bunch of Europeans who traveled to North America...
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Protoss and Zerg need not apply.
They lost. Get over it
The great Constitutional Patriots who display it.
So I don't think as much of the actual flag, but rather the wonderful people who fly or display it.
@okeydoke Your comment seems to make no sense. What comes to mind (as you stated in the question) is Right-Wing Conservative America-Loving Patriots who display the American Flag, as well as THIS flag
@okeydoke You asked what "comes to mind".
THIS IS WHAT FRICKEN COMES TO MIND !!!
i see the general lee and the rebel flag just the good old boys doing no harm.
A toothless old man blowing in a empty moonshine bottle.
states who think they still won the Civil War.. but sadly.. they didn't.
Burn it. We don't fly the Nazi flag why fly this one? They Lost, get over it.
A big mistake that allowed injustice within the country that split from the US.
Where are the knuckle dragging sister fuckers hiding?
hate and treason... it was recently used in a failed insurrection.
It reminds me that California just threatened to secede from the Union a few years ago when trump was president. They are fucking traitors and should be shot
The Stars and Bars of the closest place to heaven here on earth.
I knew you were misogynistic, I didn’t realize that you were also racist.. can’t say that I am surprised honestly.
@Subarugirl Classic. Something you don't understand so it must be racist.
That flag represents the confederate and the only civil war in American history, which started because 13 southern states didn't want to give up slavery.
@Subarugirl Your knowledge of American history is as shallow as your morals. The Civil War, like all wars, was a complicated event with no one cause. But, you have been programmed with an agenda and you are executing your program flawlessly.
So slavery and the profit that came from it wasn't one of the main reasons that the civil war was started? Oh and who programmed me?
@Subarugirl Slavery was already on its way out. If you want a fascinating read do some research in the economics of slavery.
Your programming was completed by an ultra-left school system, feminism, social media, a d the MSM. It's painful to think independently and most women avoid pain.
Jokes on you because I was home schooled by conservative Christin parents, and I wasn't allowed to have social medial until I was 16 years old. You wanna talk about thinking independently... you look at the world through lenses of hatred and bigotry and then have the audacity to blame your misery on everyone but yourself.
@Subarugirl. Well, you have certainly excelled in your left wing studies. I suppose being emerged in Oregon expedited your indoctrination.
yeah for sure... going to church every weekend and being isolated from the rest of the world sure did indoctrinate me...
@Subarugirl So how would you explain your views? Rebellion?
The only issue I have with the flag is that it represents a deviation from America's founding principles.
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