Why is dating so much harder for men?

[Anonymous]

Let's keep things civil. You can debate without being aggressive

[ChrisMaster69]

From being on here culture it seems plays a large part.

I’ve never really had a problem dating.

this is helped by the fact it’s common for girls to ask guys out, make first move.

Its something I grew up with, from a girls mate passing you a note to meet her friend after school, to a couple of girls coming over in a nightclub and chatting to you.

Also from being on here, there seems to a belief that it is a right to date, and that shows in comments on various questions.

My girlfriend has read some of the questions and opinions and says some are scary and if that is how a guys real world personality comes out, a girl would really not date him at all or for long.

A lot of guys appear to put a lot obstructions in front of them, girl must be high quality (whatever that is), not have tattoos, be a virgin or very low sexual partners, be xx height, not be in anyway overweight, not wear make up, must not want a career, not have dyed hair, only wear conservative clothing, short skirts not allowed.

Dating is a shopping list, it’s manually building a character in an RPG, where you really need 100 points but you only get 50 and have to choose what works best.

[Asker]

Girls have a high list too bud. Both genders have a high list

[ChrisMaster69]

And you proved my point.

This is about a guy dating, it’s a shit schoolboy argument that says ‘well they do it too’ especially if you take a walk around any city and you blatantly see normal people with normal people.
It’s about having realistic expectations, just because someone says ‘guys can only date high quality girls’ does not mean it’s a good idea.

Having a realistic view of life is the first step, it’s experimenting to see what types you can date.

Having a high list and bitching about not dating is just stupid.

It’s basics to just drop some of those must have things, to yeah okay I can live with her having a tattoo, she’s a great girl, or she’s dyed her hair, wears make up.
It’s still the same person.

[Asker]

It's not bitching about dating you simp

[ChrisMaster69]

😂😂😂😂
And there we have why it is so hard for you to Date.

What was it you said.. oh keep things Civil, no need to be aggressive 😂😂😂😂

[MCheetah]

Because men do the chasing, have lowered their standards and become simps nowadays, and women's egos have swelled to the size of Jupiter due to this, leading them to become more and more entitled and overvalue their worth. It's mainly the simps' fault, though. If enough men had self-respect and stopped chasing after women who mistreat and abuse them like the lapdogs these men are, then things would be better on both ends. And I should know, I was borderline-simpish in my early 20s. But then I gained some self-respect and stopped chasing after women who would treat me badly.

"The pussy is NEVER worth it, fellas."

Say No to all this...

... Say Yes to this.

[whirled_up_girl]

I've seen a lot of questions about this lately, but I really think what it boils down too is what the dating expections are. Are we talking casual dating for sex, dating for long term relationships, dating because you want to eventually marry and have children? I do think depending on what they expecations are dating could be just as difficult for women too, then you throw in age and you have a whole different ball of wax.

[Asker]

Women only want the top 20% of men though. That goes for hookups and marriage. 80% of men are invisible to women

[whirled_up_girl]

I guess I don't have stats in front of me regarding how many of men are single, if it is 80 percent, is there a link to an article that states this? I'm not asking to be combative, I really do want to know as I've heard this quite a bit as I've mentioned. I'm here on gag to exchange ideas, perspectives, facts etc so if this is true, enlighten me, I've love to learn more about this.

[Asker]

https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill say what you want about these dudes but they do their research

[whirled_up_girl]

Thanks for the link! It looks very informative, like I said I want to understand the male perspective better and their view of women etc.

[whirled_up_girl]

Not that this is whole male perspect but one faction of it.

[Fish_Sticks]

Dude you literally sourced something from incels dot com lmfao this nibba. My man you're better than this

[MCheetah]

"Say what you want about these dudes but they do their research."
That link is... Interesting...

[GoldenCage]

everyone thinks the other gender/ ethnicity/ person got it easier.. this is endless

[Asker]

I'm not denying that women have their problems in dating. But you'd have to be cappin to think men don't have it a lot harder in certain areas

[GoldenCage]

Well I didn't say that

[Anonymous]

Because you have 2 categories of men attractive and unattractive and it's a completely arbitrary line that divides them as women decide which is which. So you'll get some completely undeserving prick who will string multiple women along. For no other reason than he can even resulting in a couple women fighting over him. While you got a decent guy over there that is twice the guy that guy is. Who gets completely ignored. If a guy observes these antics long enough it's hard for him to respect women anymore.

[horatiohornblower]

Men and women have their own difficulties when dating. I think it’s fair to say. Men have it harder with some parts of dating. Women have it harder on other parts.

[Anonymous]

It's not you'll be dating the woman 5-10 younger than you. When you hit 30 or your financial and physical peak only date 25-20. These women are more feminine and less bitter. And can give healthy kids if you want.


There gonna be more lesiban and lonely feminist women than men.

[Anonymous]

Because they have to be intimidating to look attractive

But they have to be not intimidating to be friendly (as in draw in girls)

It’s like flicking a a light switch, It’s hard to find balance

[whirled_up_girl]

For some under the age of 18, you have quite a bit of insight on this, I'm impressed!

[doopayo]

Because now you have to compete with a lot of other guys, women are more selective with choosing partners than men

[Cubus]

Because men have to make the "first move". And it's really not that easy.

[whirled_up_girl]

When I was in high school I made the first move three times and I was kind of a shy girl but these nice guys were more shy, and wanted to date nice guys, yeah I still got rejected so I can relate on some level.

[jae_jae]

Men get rejected more then women. Women don't understand how to pick up men.

Only men can sympathize with this.

[jasco]

Because of attraction, options and the fact that some women simply don't wanna date, lesbain

[jennifer_Hanmabloom]

Because women take advantage of our urges when most men do honestly want to date and be with one woman

[Anonymous]

Because with the exception of white guys, guys don’t benefit from privilege. Woman privilege is huge

[Robh55]

Its not hard its fear of rejection!

[Jay3344]

It isn’t though