Sounds good if you drop the religious part. And they certainly doesn't need to be naive. But rather that than judgmental and bitter. It's also a very easy thing to be compared to women impossible lists.
It's mostly the "innocence" factor (not in a pedo way) or the "good pair of hands" (pun not intended) factor, that attracts most guys to these higher standard women.
Though few guys will actually get them, as these girls know what they want and won't settle for just any chump.
why do women claim to be the more "empathic", "emotionally intelligent" beings, when they can't even put themself in the shoes of someone else in such basic questions?
simple answer: people generally like attracive, nice people over ugly assholes. common sense.
Because we don't like drama. Men are mostly independent creatures, but we're willing to settle down in a domestic relationship with a woman as long as she doesn't annoy the hell out of us.
Good girls have value; bad girls don't. Faithfulness, honesty, loyalty, and modesty are attractive qualities and are present in good girls, not bad ones. A good girl is an asset to a man and a bad one a liability. In the end, all men want good women and no man wants a bad woman.
Why are girls jus making up so many stereotypes about what men want without any evidence or even seeing it happen?
Lol, bored?
All men are different, we all want different things... Personally I want a badass gangsta bitch who break laws and swears.. because it would match me.. I'm a rebel and I fucking hate authority... It would be real attractive to see a girl with the same attitude as me
Many of those things are simply a description of a heterosexual sane woman.
You've got to realize There are homosexual girls out there that are with guys. They are with guys cause they are insecure about their homosexuality. A homosexual girl is going is going to have a problem with this , that and the other in a relationship. It has nothing to do with this that and the other. It has to do with her being gay and not really wanting to be with a guy.
Are most men obsessed with good girls? I honestly reckon it’s balanced across the board with good, nerdy, and emo girls maybe slightly leaning but only ever slightly
Psychology. Good girls have traits of good mothers.
Something about good shy girls being attractive is because sometimes they are naughty or not shy around just you and it becomes a special relationship.
That's not what I heard, I heard they fall for bad girls. Girls that can inflict some kind of pain... emotionally, then treat them nice again so they get a dopamine rush.
Not saying your list is completely right but: Because when a woman respects herself (commonly known as not acting like a whore) she is a potential serious girlfriend. And it's not even necessarily that she's had a bunch of partners. It's that she's incapable of being loyal. Taking her seriously would be like buying a car with square wheels.
It's like picking a restaurant. You wouldn't pick the place with rats & roaches running in/out of the front door right in front of you over the place that looks clean. You really don't know what's going on in the kitchen at either place but you can make an educated guess based on what's visible. While building a relationship & in a relationship you watch to see if things add up or not.
You hahahmm is a hypocrite for your gender. I know you are a women hater major time, and only defend men. Why is it ok for a man to be full of rats & roaches and it's ok by society? Why does a girl have to settle for those men?
@anon1903 And what point may that be? She called him an incel and you expect him to see her point? Not to forget to mention you seem to moan and groan when someone happens to be agreeing with him. It seems like you're just as much of a sexist as she is.
@anon1903 Oh, I saw her point. It's just so wrong I didn't feel like responding to it. See, men and women are not the same despite what feminists have been proclaiming. You women - by and large - don't care if a man is a whore or just stopped being one last week. YOU are the ones who created the double standard by not caring. Not my problem if you don't like being thought of as a whore by men and women with self-control. Simple solution... live differently or suck it up and stop expecting anybody to care that your feelings are hurt over it.
@TruthBringer Yeah. Just reinforces my belief that street hookers are on a higher level than a lot of these women demanding respect today. Hookers are honest. No BS about being wounded by accurate labels or claiming to love/care about the guy they're riding.
Lol no you need a reality check , so you resort to name-calling instead of agreeing to other people's opinion and seeing another perspective & not just sticking to your own all the time which you were only defending men for a long time
@Nazgol Last time I checked you started off insulting him right off the bat. If you're going to play soldier morality, make sure you don't contradict yourself. Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black
@anon1903 "we don't care? More like we don't judge!" - however you word it... the end result is the same: women created the double standard. News flash, straight dudes don't date men. We don't really sit around spending a lot of time worrying about what random dudes do. We do concern ourselves with what our girlfriend is/has done.
@Nazgol Whether or not I'm his friend is not relevant. I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy. It is you who came here in bad faith throwing ad hominems around. You don't get to throw your toxicity and expect others to just shut up.
Most of those sound good to me. I would add intelligent and capable, and physically active.
Notice that those characteristics would tend to indicate someone who won't fuck around when you go out of town for a few days. THAT is why "most men are obsessed with good girls", at least if they want a girl for a LTR or marriage.
There is a limit! Those traits have nothing wrong with them, as long as she isn't boring. If she is too good she will be boring and we won't look at her twice. But people have different preferences.
A nice guy can be a bad boy in her eyes so while the slutty bad girls might think a guy is too nice she will see a bad ass rebel. also women want bad boys because they want a guy who with experience that will put then face down Ass up. Nice girls date guys their own age. Women mature faster than men is bullshit because you are just looked at by older men as your body developed but you don't have a clue other anymore than guys because women don't want to train a teen with a hard on. Or do they?
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Sounds good if you drop the religious part. And they certainly doesn't need to be naive. But rather that than judgmental and bitter. It's also a very easy thing to be compared to women impossible lists.
They aren't.
It's mostly the "innocence" factor (not in a pedo way) or the "good pair of hands" (pun not intended) factor, that attracts most guys to these higher standard women.
Though few guys will actually get them, as these girls know what they want and won't settle for just any chump.
why do women claim to be the more "empathic", "emotionally intelligent" beings, when they can't even put themself in the shoes of someone else in such basic questions?
simple answer: people generally like attracive, nice people over ugly assholes. common sense.
Because we don't like drama. Men are mostly independent creatures, but we're willing to settle down in a domestic relationship with a woman as long as she doesn't annoy the hell out of us.
Good girls have value; bad girls don't. Faithfulness, honesty, loyalty, and modesty are attractive qualities and are present in good girls, not bad ones. A good girl is an asset to a man and a bad one a liability. In the end, all men want good women and no man wants a bad woman.
It's judgmental of you to think a good girl is a good person.
Why are girls jus making up so many stereotypes about what men want without any evidence or even seeing it happen?
Lol, bored?
All men are different, we all want different things... Personally I want a badass gangsta bitch who break laws and swears.. because it would match me.. I'm a rebel and I fucking hate authority... It would be real attractive to see a girl with the same attitude as me
Same here. haha
There are 2 extremes. Too nice and , too rebelious. Something loving but with personality would be best.
Many of those things are simply a description of a heterosexual sane woman.
You've got to realize There are homosexual girls out there that are with guys. They are with guys cause they are insecure about their homosexuality. A homosexual girl is going is going to have a problem with this , that and the other in a relationship. It has nothing to do with this that and the other. It has to do with her being gay and not really wanting to be with a guy.
Are most men obsessed with good girls?
I honestly reckon it’s balanced across the board with good, nerdy, and emo girls maybe slightly leaning but only ever slightly
Psychology.
Good girls have traits of good mothers.
Something about good shy girls being attractive is because sometimes they are naughty or not shy around just you and it becomes a special relationship.
I'd argue they are sexualy more attracted to bad girls... but are more likely to want to seriously date good girls.
I don't agree with your list of whats a good girl.
That's not what I heard, I heard they fall for bad girls. Girls that can inflict some kind of pain... emotionally, then treat them nice again so they get a dopamine rush.
Not saying your list is completely right but: Because when a woman respects herself (commonly known as not acting like a whore) she is a potential serious girlfriend. And it's not even necessarily that she's had a bunch of partners. It's that she's incapable of being loyal. Taking her seriously would be like buying a car with square wheels.
Who's to say she won't cheat on you in future?
It's like picking a restaurant. You wouldn't pick the place with rats & roaches running in/out of the front door right in front of you over the place that looks clean. You really don't know what's going on in the kitchen at either place but you can make an educated guess based on what's visible. While building a relationship & in a relationship you watch to see if things add up or not.
@hahahmm Perfect analogy!
Yeah and my cheese analogy for polyamory was hard to grasp for people
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@anon1903 Is there a problem with my analogy? Or?
It's not you, man. You're cool.
@anon1903 Then what's the problem?
You hahahmm is a hypocrite for your gender. I know you are a women hater major time, and only defend men. Why is it ok for a man to be full of rats & roaches and it's ok by society? Why does a girl have to settle for those men?
That is a classic case of double standards
& u are an incel
@Nazgol If you stop living as a whore you won't feel offended by my opinions.
And if you stop being a sexist pig, you'd see her point
@anon1903 And what point may that be? She called him an incel and you expect him to see her point? Not to forget to mention you seem to moan and groan when someone happens to be agreeing with him. It seems like you're just as much of a sexist as she is.
@hahahmm Seems like you made quite some fans here
@anon1903 Oh, I saw her point. It's just so wrong I didn't feel like responding to it. See, men and women are not the same despite what feminists have been proclaiming. You women - by and large - don't care if a man is a whore or just stopped being one last week. YOU are the ones who created the double standard by not caring. Not my problem if you don't like being thought of as a whore by men and women with self-control. Simple solution... live differently or suck it up and stop expecting anybody to care that your feelings are hurt over it.
@TruthBringer Yeah. Just reinforces my belief that street hookers are on a higher level than a lot of these women demanding respect today. Hookers are honest. No BS about being wounded by accurate labels or claiming to love/care about the guy they're riding.
We don't care? More like we don't judge!
Lol no you need a reality check , so you resort to name-calling instead of agreeing to other people's opinion and seeing another perspective & not just sticking to your own all the time which you were only defending men for a long time
@Nazgol Last time I checked you started off insulting him right off the bat. If you're going to play soldier morality, make sure you don't contradict yourself. Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black
@anon1903 "we don't care? More like we don't judge!" - however you word it... the end result is the same: women created the double standard. News flash, straight dudes don't date men. We don't really sit around spending a lot of time worrying about what random dudes do. We do concern ourselves with what our girlfriend is/has done.
@TruthBringer Exactly.
@TruthBringer I don't deal with friends, so if you are his buddy this is beside the vase
*case
@Nazgol Whether or not I'm his friend is not relevant. I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy. It is you who came here in bad faith throwing ad hominems around. You don't get to throw your toxicity and expect others to just shut up.
What is eve or something?
Most of those sound good to me. I would add intelligent and capable, and physically active.
Notice that those characteristics would tend to indicate someone who won't fuck around when you go out of town for a few days. THAT is why "most men are obsessed with good girls", at least if they want a girl for a LTR or marriage.
People are dumb often popular things are dumb due to this. This is an example. A smart minded individual would not care for half those things.
I'm not a man, but I assume it's because men likely view 'nice girls' as more submissive to them.
There is a limit!
Those traits have nothing wrong with them, as long as she isn't boring. If she is too good she will be boring and we won't look at her twice.
But people have different preferences.
Some of it because it's wholesome, and some of it is just liked for biological reasons.
They're attractive, reliable, and stable.
I think I into the good girl in every bad girl.
Kinda how girls love the good in the bad boy ig.
You can be good and not be nieve.
The dizzy sweet girl has no appeal to me
A nice guy can be a bad boy in her eyes so while the slutty bad girls might think a guy is too nice she will see a bad ass rebel. also women want bad boys because they want a guy who with experience that will put then face down Ass up. Nice girls date guys their own age. Women mature faster than men is bullshit because you are just looked at by older men as your body developed but you don't have a clue other anymore than guys because women don't want to train a teen with a hard on. Or do they?
Sorry I prefer bad girls who love to fuck and even more love to cum as many times as possible.