I mean guys really love feminine girls, so I would expect girls to love really masculine men, but a lot of the dudes girls seem to obsess over are so feminine looking, and I'm wondering why this is.
And no I'm not saying guys need to have a bunch of muscle to be considered manly, it's just weird to me why these are the types of guys that seem to receive most of the attention from girls when they look like girls themselves.
I would say that people just like people with contrasting characteristics. I am a girl, and sure, I like to do my nails, I wore a crown shaped ring (until I lost it this week *single tear* ), and I love cutesy girl stuff. I love art and music. My pencil case is literally full of cute sparkly teensy teensy cute stuff. But WOAH DAMN I love me some action! Cool cars, adventures, skateboarding, EDM, and I wouldn't say my style is all that girly girl. I think this is more attractive than just being a one sided person. Same goes for guys. Do I want a guy who is super fit, great bod, style and hair on point, cute smile, etc? Yes, I love alpha males. They be gettin all the chicks. But hey, it's nice to know that a super dominant alpha also has a sweet a caring side. And I guess, physical attributes do help with that. Girls are more emotionally expressive, so to appeal to a girl, there needs to be a level of perceived emotional vulnerability once in a while (sweet, caring, kind, gentle) instead of coming off as the macho dude who will never understand and care for her needs. You don't need to look feminine in order to be a sweet guy but When a guy looks "feminine" I don't know exactly what, but it gives the impression they will cuddle and hold the girl and be really sweet. I kinda don't wanna use this example but what the heck. Lucas definitely comes off as an alpha. Smoking weed, hooking up with girls, drinking, partying, etc. You get the idea. And yes, that in itself is pretty attractive to me. Not that I agree with his lifestyle but his social proof and confidence appeals to me in a weird way. But what makes him more attractive is that emotionally, he is not just an alpha too. He can be vulnerable and sweet, and he eyes actually slightly turn downwards (that's just his face) but it does give off the "puppy eyes, innocent, sweet, caring" vibe. So in a weird way, I have looked at his face and thought that it was feminine (just a little bit lol) but what balances it out and makes me see him as an alpha? Contrasts. His personality, his build, everything makes up for it. Especially the guy in the first picture, like woah damn. The impression I get from him is athletic, confident, sporty but also just a sweetheart. A guy that would be wild with his friends and come home to go out with his girl and cuddle and just be sweet. We all know who the guy in the second pic is, lol but I guess there must be something that makes tom masculine. to balance out his wee bit cute face lmao
*Clap clap clap* You did it sherry, you delivered once more. Yeah I understand what you're saying, contrasts are important. I like feminine girls, but I wouldn't want an ultra feminine girl, so something between that and a tomboy is where my preference would be. A ton of people are saying that the guys in the pics aren't even feminine, they're just "very pretty". But I think that the "pretty boy" look is the least conventionally manly look a guy can have and thus it has to be feminine.
Side note, I would legit be such a stoner if you didn't get like 20 years in jail for smoking in Sweden. Had one chance to smoke weed when a coworker offered some to me in Scotland but I had to decline because I was heading back home the day after that and I didn't wanna be caught with weed in me as a minor on an airplane lmao. Also I pray for your ring
aha!!! And yes I see your point, the first guy is a hottie/cutie but yeah, Tom is a little too feminine, I know what you mean. He has softer facial features and stuff and thus, he has to make up for his somewhat lack of masculinity with his personality and his hobbies. LOL actually? The furious weed rat 2k19. And thank you for praying for my ring I kissed it like 3 times when my mom found it on the floor by my bed. Must be your future weed power coming to bless meee :)
Yeah for real, I might head over to cally next year and study but I'm almost certain I'll become a hardcore stoner if I do lmao. And no problem about the praying, as a man of god it's my pleasure
Because men who take the time to take care of themselves are usually more considerate of things in general and way better to have around than men who drink, stare at their muscles in the mirror and ignore you to watch sports and treat you like a maid...
I think going to the gym is closer to taking care of yourself than styling your hair for an hour every morning. But yeah I understand the other parts, obviously it must suck to be treated like that. I don't exactly see how that is correlated to masculinity, that just sounds like lazy and sexist behavior
Well a lot of times men who are concerned with masculinity think that genuinely caring about things that aren't sports alcohol and pussy are "effeminate" and that's just not true. there's nothing wrong with going to the gym but taking mirror selfies while you're flexing and staring at yourself is just cringe.
Meh not a lot of people I hang around think like that. Everybody has interests outside of those things, I spend a lot of time drawing for example. Here I'm talking specifically about looks though, not masculinity as in hobbies. I just find that the feminine face on a guy seems kinda popular at the moment, that's all.
I dont think the men you listed look feminine at all though. Nice hair and clear skin are always going to be more attractive. That's not feminine that's just taking care of yourself
First guy looks rather masculine. he's just very young, has no beard and is skinny. The second dude doesn't really look that feminine either. He just looks boy-ish, very young.
Anyways, if you are pretty, you are pretty, wether you have a feminine or masculine look. But im certain girls prefer a handsome masculine dude over a handsome, boy-ish/feminine dude
Second dude is in his 20s though. Yeah maybe you're right, a lot of the girls are saying they both look masculine so maybe I just have a weird view of what a masculine face is. It's just that both these dudes have the "pretty boy" look which just doesn't give off any manly vibes like dependability or any of that
The second dude isn't masculine, but he isn't feminine either. The first one is a different case. He has a masculine face, but you see him as feminine or "pretty boy" because he's smirking his lips like a faggot, raising his eyebrows like a faggot, and holding his neck like a faggot. And he's also skinny, which takes away a lot of his masculinity
@TonyBologna25 Non threatening is not the same as harmless. What women like is a competent man. A man can be competent in his ability to protect himself and others while also looking non threatening.
From my experience, and the women I've been with, they like to feel weightless and protected. They want that guy who looks threatening to everyone else, but to protect her and only she gets to see that side. I'm pretty intimidating to most by appearance and it's only worked to my favor. Non-threatening guys might get more conversations, but I can promise you that there is more sexual attraction when it's reversed.
@TonyBologna25 I think it's more nuanced than that. I think you're conflating the appearance of strength and the ability to defend one's self as well as others with being threatening or posing a threat to one's safety.
A woman is not gonna feel comfortable around a man who poses a threat to her safety.
If a woman sees a drunk hobo wondering the streets at night, yelling n shit, her first thought ain't gonna be "damn, lemme hop on that dick". She's gonna be thinking "I need to get the hell outa here".
What have I said that makes you think I take steroids? There’s also different kind of threats that we’re talking about here. Thought we were on the same page. A disgusting homeless tweaker who’s strung out on meth carries absolutely no sexual appeal. A guy who can lift up a girl as if she’s weightless and do anything he wants to her carries a lot of sexual appeal.
@TonyBologna25 What did I say that'd make you assume I'm a virgin?
So I'm specifically referring to women feeling threatened or unsafe as in a threat to her life, well being or dignity. Strenght, manliness, power and dominance are all attractive. What's not attractive is the being killed or raped (for most sane women). That's my point.
"What did I say that'd make you assume I'm a virgin?" - Your perception of women on this conversation makes me think that you're inexperienced. Did you actually know over half of women have a rape fantasy? It's fucked up right? Lol
@TonyBologna25 So saying that women want to feel safe makes me seem like I'm sexually inexperienced? That makes no sense at all.
I'm aware that there are women who have rape fantasies. I doubt it's over half. You'll have to prove that. It sounds like you're taking the sexual desires of a select few women, or perhaps the women you've dated and are projecting it on all women.
Id have many answers or ways to put it but here may be a few.
What masculine portrays among the lower echelons of men is typically brainless, dangerous men. Women have good reason to be unattracted to that.
Women might find infeminate men attractive for many reasons, one may be that feminine traits include positive communication and emotion connectivity. Which is tantamount to a healthy relationship.
Socialogically, women as a collective subconscious may find that infeminate men push their collectivists interests. Many times the friendzone is for the useful idiots mezmerized by female indocrination.
If I may steal a phrase of the feminists, if their were negative masculine traits, called "toxic masculinity" it is by some assemblence of undesirable character based of masculine traits of people than it is not per se masculinity women are unattracted to but the "hyper masculinity" associated with it.
Another thing is socialogically, women, more so than men, will treat people as idols or symbolic representations and exult them as a means of pushing idealogical agendas. The worship of people like boyish celebrities is not so much an admiration of their natural self, but the symbols associated to those people. Likewise, the pope is not worshipped as a man, he is exulted as the representation of values held by the faction of catholistists.
They aren't. In today's feminist society which is obsessed with telling us how bad masculinity is, how toxic it is, they're supposed to say "oh no I don't like masculine men, eww I hate muscles, I like skinny/chubby guys who are nice and sensitive and aren't afraid to show their emotions".
It's bullshit.
Just as much as guys who claim to prefer fat girls so that they don't sound shallow, "I prefer BBWs, I'm not like those other typical shallow guys, I'm different".
They only say these things because they're "supposed" to, so that they don't look like assholes. In reality men are biologically designed to prefer feminine women and women are biologically designed to prefer masculine men. This is the way we've evolved and no amount of social engineering can erase thousands of years of evolution.
Here is a tip, Girls take cute over hot ANY day. If a girl calls you "cute" she likes you. If they call you "hot" they usually only like your body muscles.
I have noticed a lot of guys don't really know this. Usually when a guy is called "cute" they they don't really pay any attention to it. I feelt that this is information all men should know.😊
Maybe you have a different definition of effeminate cause they don't look feminine to me just young.
And in my country men don't like much crazy feminine girl they prefer classic / chic girl who are streetwear or a bit feminine but very fews like very feminine girls.
Those are not feminine guys. Those are handsome guys who take care of their skin and hair. There is a big difference. Those guys still have very masculine qualities. Feminine guys are guys that could easily pass as girls.
Well, then I guess I'm an exception or outlier, because I like a masculine guy. I'm just not wired to be attracted to feminine guys. I like a guy who can conquer me but has a gentleman personality to notice my needs, as I am observant of his needs and thoughtful.
Um no i do not get attracted to feminine men. And as you said, it's not about the muscles. So i hope you're not considering them feminine based on their physic.
I don't know if it's true actually. Anyway, Freud used to say every human has bisexual impulses, but it's unconsciously repressed most of the times. Maybe some girls like it because it activates these impulses, which are highly sexually driven - since it's been repressed for so long.
The guys pictured are boyish and that's a common trend for the younger generations of girls. I can't speak for feminine women, but as a masculine woman, opposites attract and I'm attracted to feminine men. It's quite simple: men, why are you attracted to feminine women? Same for me but switched and a bit tamer. Feminine men make up for my shortfalls.
the guy in the picture doesn't seem feminine because he cleans up nicely. If a guy is stylish she is going to be attracted to the guy who has more style. Girls will either snap out of their crush when they start talking to a guy or just like him more after that.
I don't really find either of those guys to be feminine looking. I guess like most things, it comes down to just personal physical preferences. You don't always know why you like something, you just do.
I’ve been wondering about this too. Its not that I personally would say that I want a feminine guy. Its just nice with a man who isn’t afraid to express femininity. Like a man wearing nail poilsh or colored hair can be a turn on. Plus like who dosen’t like to look at a beautiful face, yet as a girl I still want a manly body and dark voice.
Those guys look like “pussies” for me, want myself a real man, someone who doesn’t look like me :)) I want a real man with a manly voice and manly face lol don’t want no girlie in my bed
who cares about them? We keep lifting light weights YEAAA BUDDYYYYY I have feeling feminine guys are kinda gay and pussy. Their testosterone level is close to non-existence. Next time you see some feminine gayyy try be little agressive and you will see what im talking about haha
i mean no shit, people who dont take care of their face and appearance are just retarded I take care about my face and appearance too but there is difference between being normal guy who take care of his apperenace and feminine guy who is trying to dress like girl and be gay
@FckTheRichAndFamous im not judging people who dont work out and i dont need English , im using 2languages everyday +eng (online only). And what working out has to do with anything? 90% of my friends dont work out so what?
East Asian bitches who love K-Pop boy bands like Exo or BTS are the ones who are into this krap. New generation of Vietnamese and Indonesian girls only have their hearts set out for these androgynous Korean boy band punks who bleach their hair blonde.
I'd agree that a lot of women online seem super into it. I have met women in real life who were into it too but 99% of women I talk to want a masculine guy. Asian girls might be a bit different though as most Asian guys have more youthful features so that might be a factor in what they are attracted to generally.
I only like very feminine guys because their skin is much softer, smoother sexier than hard bodies of masculine guys , grossss, and they are normally not abuser , they are weak but loving, not threatening, what is the advantage of having so manly body but too much testosterone which tend to harm his partner? 🤮 feminine guys tend to be more faithful , less testosterone , father material 🤤🤤👏👏
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